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good night. captioned by, closed captioning services, inc. pete: don't talk with your mouth full. maria: good morning. a critical week ahead. secretary of state rex tillerson toisit rusa. after the u.s. strike. the white house and ngress set to dive into tax reform after the easter break at how fast can they get something done. good morning. i maria bartiromo. this is sunday morning features. foreign policy test from white house president trump. orders airstrikes following chemical weapons attack on its own people. with moscow complicit in the attack? all this while u.s. warships and towards north korea. former u.s. ambassador to syria and iraq are ryan crocker will
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join me more entirely. reports of tension within the president's inner circle. steve bennett and jared kushner sitting down to smooth things over. is there much ado about nothing. karl rove circuit all out. where does it go from here? following the president's meeting with the president china. i'll talk with wilbur ross coming up as we look ahead right now on a "sunday morning futures." we start with a news alert. fox news alert. isis has claimed responsibility this morning for attacks on two churches in northern egypt, killing dozens of worshipers, celebrating palm sunday this morning. the first attack senior killed 26 christians. nearly 70 others were hurt. authorities say the second a few hours later happen when a suicide bomber tried tenter another church butas stopped by police before blowing himself up. 11 people killed in that blast.
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35 others hurt. meanwhile, president trump is keeping the pressure on syria this morning in a letter to congress. mr. trump says he is not ruling out further airstrikes again the sub for shame, adding military action in the future will be taken as necessary. those u.s. missile strikes turning the spotlight on russia's connections to syria and a high-stakes diplomatic ace up this week with secretary of state rex tillerson set to visit on wednesday. should be known as ryan crocker, former u.s. ambassador to syria, iraq and afghanistan. now dean and executive professor at texas a&m university. good to have you in the program. thank you for joining us. few people have the inside knowledge that you do this part of the world. me ask you in terms of your
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expectations, do you think area amber russia will retaliate? >> they would be insane if they tried. we all know what the differentials of power are here. our power is overwhelming. they would not like to see and i don't think i'll take the chance. maria: you are not expecting any response. the immediate result was moscow's declaration on friday that it has suspended an agreement to coordinate military flight over syria with washington. the communication of sharing that information of the flyovers syria has been shut down. what are the implications? >> well, that is a major mistake on the part of moscow. as we move into this theater, they would be the ones who would benefit from advanced warnings as we saw in this case. so they are actually putting
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their own forces in greater jeopardy. maria: they are putting their men in jeopardy and the men and women in jeopardy, tommy on the ground in terms of implication ,-com,-com ma we are also in jeopardy because we don't know what is happening from their side. so it is raising the risk of a potential problem, correct, for men and women on the ground? >> well, maria, it is solomon for complicated. this is one small piece of it. again, i think we will have a better battlefield picture they may well. as we move forward, if we do, the president has certainly put the world on notice that we may, it would be to moscow's benefit to have these basic lines of communication. they will lose more than we will. train to let me ask you also when you look at this targeting of christian churches this morning in egypt, carrot to rise
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with the is facing right now. clearly, the issues around north korea has been rising and perhaps becoming front and center number one on the agenda. now you've got syria and of course a problem in egypt this morning. how do you characterize that the president is facing with regard to extremist terrorism and foreign affairs. >> i think in this last week, we really witnessed the end of reality shows and beginning of reality. reality and not part of the world is multiple crises coming at you all at once. you can't stack them. you have to take the math they calm. so far, so good. i think the strike in syria was the right thing to do. we can talk more about that. it's just the beginning, not the end. i think the deployment of the carrier battle group after his career was also the right thing
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to do. when i was ambassador in kuwait in the midnight to nine days, i referred to a carrier battle group as a 100,000 tons of diplomacy. i worked very closely with central command to be sure we had carrier present in the northern gulf when we need it. the president has made the right move both in syria and in korea, but again, this is just the beginning. i would say about the attacks on palm sunday in egypt reminds us all that we have got a determined and absolutely ruthless enemy in the form of islamic state. one more thing on this because it is important. i cannot have diplomacy where personal relationships are so critical. president trump to the surprise of a lot of people including me after his campaign rhetoric has stepped in here looking like an
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internationalist. he has received dozens of government than on the phone with others. so he is already getting relationships in place that he can then call on as the world springs that surprises on us. maria: we should point out that the president has gotten broad and deep support on this. global support. a number of world leaders have come out and says this is exact to what was appropriate and it certainly feels like the era of ading from behind is over in terms of this administrion. let me ask you to preview this meeting. somebody said is just the beginning. i want to ask you what you meant by that in terms of the beginning. is this a new program against syria? the president has a very clear more strikes if necessary. how do you see?
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>> i for one implied that he has not got a fully thought through strategy and urea. if he did, he would probably get it wrong. there are too many variables, too many unknowns. here is one of them. he has gotten praise, for example, from saudi arabia from turkey, for much of the syrian opposition. that is predicated on their view, or maybe just better hope that this seems the administration is going to make an anti-sub for its main piece. not an anti-iss. the president will have to adjust expert patients with movement than with government better may be hoping for a different ship of emphasis. that is why the calls and meetings he had before this crisis becomes so important.
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he knows them, dano had. this is time for multi-serious discussion on what should or should not have been. maria: what are expecting about this meeting on wednesday between rex tillerson and vladimir putin? we should point out that one question that tillerson will nt answers to his wifeyr has chemical weapons still anyway, especially since susan rice told us that the last administration made sure they had no more chemical weapons that let's listen to rice this january. this was sad this last january. >> i think the president stated the u.s. do come and use of chemical weapons is not something we are prepared to allow to persist and we didn't. they manage to accomplish that goal far more thoroughly than we could have by some limited strikes against chemical target by getting the entirety of the declared stop by the removed.
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maria: of course now we know that is not true, sir. >> well, there are any number of untruths and not reach them. this would just be one of them. but i hope have been as we move into the new week and is very important visit to the secretary to moscow, we need to be more aggressive with respect to russia. when they accuse us of violating serious sovereignty, we should be right back in their facebeind name a mass killer who uses chemical weapons. is that while russia wants to be associated with? same is true for iran and family. we can be pretty powerful because the iranians have been picked tons of chemical attacks. their population is probably not going to like too much that they are now associating with someone who carries out these attacks yet we need to be of the more aggressive on this. maria: will be watching that
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meeting certainly going to give us a window into that relationship. good to have you on the program. thanks very much. ambassador ryan crocker. a big viewers now. this wednesday morning to area on the fox business network, i'll have next was a one-on-one interview with president donald jay trump. we'll talk about sera plus his take on the state of the economy. find out what he has to say about tax reform, what the future of nafta is in the future of his agenda in general. that is this wednesday morning, "mornings with maria" beginning at 6:00 p.m. eastern on the fox business network. next-line they will have more explicit portions of the interview with resident tribes right here on monday morning futures. 10:00 a.m. eastern next-linea )-right-paren the fox news channel. president trump this upcoming week. president trump taking action in syria. what is the plan going forward. house foreign affairs chairman edwards will join us next. let's let us know too that gear from our guest today and for
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maria: welcome back. president trump receiving bipartisan praise for authorizing military action in syria. some lawmakers are asking the president to work with congress to come up with a complete strategy. house foreign affairs committee chairman ed royce. it has been the the program. thanks for being here. >> thank you, maria. maria: what you want to see the plan for moving forward in syria? >> i think we need clear policy goals for celia in the region and what we need to see is more than just the preliminary framework that was put out by secretary mattis. we need to be working with the
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administration first and foremost on a plan to destroy and eliminate pacers and secondarily on putting enough pressure to bring in enough pressure to bear on some of the supporters of assad to get a negotiated settlement. maria: have you had conversations with the president about syria? >> i've had conversations with his team. i've not had conversations with him personally about this issue yet. maria: what about this debate about whether or not he should have spoken with congress first? the president has authority to act, to protect the country's national interest. >> he was -- the white house informed me and others of course. the question here going forward, he does have that authority just as ronald reagan had that authority and used it and bill clinton. for a short period of time, after 60 days of coors if there
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is an intention to go forward with these types of strikes, the president has to come to congress for an authorization for use of military force. maria: that was really my question. were you in the circle? i know he didn't alert some people and you obviously were alerted and obviously you were as chairman i would've expected that. let me ask you. obviously a lot of hot button issues in front of the president right now. most importantly, north korea, which has become quite active in his first 75 days of the president's term. how important should syria be in terms of the overall foreign policy agenda? >> remember, days, maria, had quite an impact worldwide. first everyone thought the results of 20 children being suffocated by this poison gas, buy this. gas and realized assad had been
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mine and that frankly nothing had been done about this stock piles. indeed in this case he was caught in the act. as a result of the decisive step. to take out 23 of his aircraft there that have launched this attack on the notice to result in the region. the first result i mentioned to you it's all fodder, who was formerly in baghdad. this military cleric who is an ally of the assad suddenly says now it is time for a negotiated settlement. it is time for assad to go and get the russians and americans out of syria. but the reality here is that it is changing the perception of assad's allies and gives the president an opportunity with his team to look at the diplomatic approach forward in order to try to quiet the situation in syria.
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and this following on the defeat of vices, which i do think we will eliminate at least in syria and iraq is very commensurate importance that. maria: it's really important point to make because the president is getting really strong support and praise for this move because most of our friends around the world feel that assad needs to go. that's what all the candidates said during the election season as well. now you see the u.k. push back, canceling a meeting to moscow. the u.k. basically saying, you know, moscow is supporting assad. you think this will result in assad stepping down? >> i think it very easily could result in assad been replaced by someone else but the intention of a negotiated settlement. and to put additional pressure on, i am the ranking member on my committee to put in
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legislation, which we passed the house last year to put additional pressure and sanctions on russia and iran in terms of their transfer of weapons and support to assad. we now think we've got enough support to get a bill through the senate and i think that this is crucial here that the focus be on not only the diplomatic approach and sanctions, but when we find assad using chemical weapons, this is a guy who has run for 2 million people at his own people out of their homes. they explain all over the middle east and into europe as a consequence. he's got 480,000 people and he's elaborately, intentionally after being warned not to targeting women and children. we need some decisive steps here to bring an end to this end quickly and that is what we are seeing. maria: as i said in the last segment, feels like the era of bleeding from behind is over.
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we should point out that stephen mnuchin said more sanctions are coming. good to have you on the program. see you soo
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maria: to smooth things over and made claims of inciting. churning out karl rove, senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush. great to see you. as for jning us. >> tanks for having me.
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"the wall street journal" is reporting there is tension between steve bennett and reince priebus. it could be getting reassigned. do you believe that? >> well, i believe there's a lot of acrimony inside the white house. i believe there is a lot of concern on the president's part in relationships between these three tribes immersed in the white house good one group around jerry kushner and his supporters and allies had one around steve bennett and right in the white house and while i think there is a tendency to exaggerate a little bit in the price, i think there's a lot behind this fence rail. and i say this for three reasons. these people have been making on each other for weeks. white house officials are saying to reporters about other people inside the white house.
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check them out, the president has taken into talking to people who are commenting and in asking what you think of my staff and expressing concern about it. finally, people in and out of the white house over the last 11 weeks told me there's a powerful pull sort of animosity or antagonize them for sort of unhealthy feelings between various camps inside the white house. you will always haveension. you want a diversity of opinio but she won a unity of purpose. right now there's plenty of diversity of opinion but there doesn't appear to be sufficient unity of purpose. maria: that's a really good way to put it. unity of purpose is why we are even doing the story as everyone knows who watches this program, we do not do gossip on "sunday morning futures." having said that, if there is a push and pull within the inner circle whereas it is going to dictate the agenda and change the agenda, we want to know about it. i understand jerry: has been gaining real seniority in the demonstration. he may have a different way of
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looking at perhaps the tax plan then perhaps steve dannenberg too. that is why we want to see whether or not this to dictate the agenda. your thoughts. >> what is interesting to me as we look at the two individuals. gary cohen, head of the economic council. he loved the process. that is to say people have people throughout the government come together to discuss that issue. excuse me. and then they will carry their advice over to the president in an organized celebrity fashion. this essay can identify areas of consensus, disagreement, committed to paper, homeless argument in some way, shape or form carry forward to the president. c-span is an adviser. he he doesn't run a process. he's the lone ranger. i remember when i was in the white house i was the senior adviser and the chief of staff said to me, i don't want people in the white house whose job it is to advise the president. want people who have
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responsibility for running the process and execute the decisions we make. therefore i will give you these responsibilities. intergovernmental affairs, public liaison, soap work. so what i think we see here is the subtle influence of it that are at that colin has been an influence. the subtle impact of being responsible for running a game and getting it to a point. the more process you have, the better the outcomes are that you can frame to the president and the better the president's decision-making. if you are the last five agreements they remember you said you do this during the campaign had put yourself in a place where others could start again influence perhaps at your expense. maria: i understand. good to see you. and so much. karlove. we'll talk to somebody who knows exactly what's going on within the white house. commerce secretary wilbur ross will join me glad to talk about the road ahead. we are looking at right now. join us for wilbur ross next.
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his first summit with the president of china, xi jinping. he tweeted this. it was a great honor to have the president of china xi jinping as our guests in the united states. tremendous. secretary ross, thank you so much for joining us. i want to get to the meeting with the president of china in moment. but first let me begin with the syria strikes. you were in the situation room when the strikes took place, along with other members of the president's cabinet. tell us what went on while the launch was happening. >> city was obviously a very thrilling scene. it justifies all the
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inconveniences one puts up with going into government to be there when history was made. i believe the president did make history with his decision to take an action that was measured and very precise and seemingly has had a very beneficial effect already. maria: your colleague steven mnuchin said to expect more sanctions coming against syria. what would those look like? >> that's for the secretary of treasury to do. our job in commerce is to enforce sanctions. d.t.e., the second largest chinese telecommunications equipment manufacturer we nailed for violating the sanctions against iran and north korea and signed $190 million dollars
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fined as a result. enforcement activities will go forward as we wait to see if there are prompt results and real deliverables coming out of the trade discussion. maria: let me get to the trade discussion with the president of china. the president has repeatedly hammered china for exporting more to the united states than it buys, and criticized china for taking jobs that could go to americans. did these subjects come up? >> they weren't articulated that way. but when made it clear, our primary objectives were twofold. one is to reduce the trade deficit noticeably between the united states and china. and two, to increase total trade between the two. those are the objectives that we have and those are both
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logically consistent each with the other. it requires everybody playing by the rules, and everybody having the same objectives. we'll see in a short while whether it is the case we are on the same wavelength. maria: the white house said you will come back in 100 days to discuss potential progress that's been made. are you expecting the chinese to work witus in that regard. >> the meeting as a meeting went fine. the biochemistry was good. people were serious. the chinese came well prepared. there were people at the right levels. so it was not just a for-show meeting. it was a serious meeting both in terms of who attended and the
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content. but words are easy, discussions are easy, endless meetings are easy. what's hard are tangible results. if we don't get tangible result within the first 100 days, we'll have to examine why it's worthwhile. maria: it's incredible that these launches were done white when the president of china were with our commander-in-chief. was this planned this way? was the president sending a message larger than no chemical attacks or was this a message to china fan north korea and iran as well? >> i don't think it was intended as a threatening thing to china at all. that's not the context, and
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that's not reason it was done when it was done it was done when it was done because there was a clear understanding where these horrible attacks came from and the president wanted to make clear he's not going to tolerate putting these horrible gas on women, children and beautiful little babies. maria: this administration set priorities and are keeping their promises with regard to other issues. maria: when you joined me a couple weeks ago you were talking about changing nafta, being among your priorities. has that shifted in any way? are you look at nafta differently than you were even before the election in terms of redoing it. or can you just tweak nafta? where are you on that? >> i think it need much more than a tweak. i think the president has made
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that exceedingly clear. but what has changed as in all dealing between the administration and congress, it's been frustratingly slow. they have been very, very slow on completing the hearings and voting on our new u.s. trade representative. that's not helpful. second in terms of nafta, we need congress' permission to enter into the fmal 90-day letter into the record so we can begin the formal negotiations. we were trying to get that done before the easter recess. when were not able to do it. we hope to get it done as soon as possible after. bad trade deals shouldn't be allowed to sit. so it's quite unfortunate the way congress has been working has been to slow walk these activities.
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maria: you make an important point. a lot of people are saying why should we trust the administration is going to get trade done and get tax reform done when we know healthcare just failed. >> i don't know that healthcare has failed on any kind of. >> permanent basis. one particular set of legislation didn't get through. there is discussion all over the place about other ones. but in woshes cops to worse come november and october when the premiums come up again, i think the situation is going to implode on its own. so it's a question of when does it get fixed not whether. maria: you think people should have confidence you can get changes done with regard to trade and changes done with regard to the tax code? >> i believe they are both he accepting. they are central cores to the president's plan.
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but meanwhile he's not holding back on regulatory reform and enforcement of existing trade reements. we have been bringing cases at a far more rapid pace than has been typical and that will continue. we are starting to self-initiate cases to let that go faster. maria: the executive orders have had great impact in terms of unleashing business and creating a different sentiment. secretary ross, great to have you on the program. is the wrong person in the political cross-hairs in the russia investigation. former i'm thomas and i quit smoking with chantix. i was very grateful to have chantix. at times when i would normally go smoke, i just didn't.
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maria: how intel chairman devin nunes temporarily stepping down into the investigation over russian meddling. the left raking him over the coals after a house ethics panel said it would look into whether he disclosed confidential information. susan rice has been requested to testify before congress over unmasking allegations. the american people need to understand what susan rice did. explain unmasking and take us through what just transpired. >> this is a top-secret environment. this is national security at its highest level. the national security council, nsa, cia, are not investigative agencies. the f.b.i. is the primarily
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counter foreign intelligence agency in the united states. they would be the ones that would investigate these types of things, and their investigation they would probably unmask names that maybe the nsa masked just to conduct their mandated traditional responsibility. so here you have got the national security advisor apparently from the press reports who started playing a role of investigating into this domain. an american name has to be minimized immediately. you can't continue to collect it unless there is some justification in the comments about something to do. you can listen to it for a while. the other question is when do you unmask it. you only unmask it if there is some sort of investigation of national security, not political discussion about some
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presidential candidate. that is foreign to what this should be. that is not right. then of course to leak it is a felony, 10 years in leavenworth. this whole thing, i don't have the facts. how they disclosed general flynn. if you can believe the "new york times," all the other people who coughed up information about this, it sounds like it was willy nilly across the obama administration. that puts at great risked the reauthorization of these tools to protect the united states. this is a big deal. maria: so susan rice committed a crime, she broke the law. >> we'll find that out. and i think we need an aggressive investigation. not just from congress. the attorney general needs to get involved.
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i don't know if she broke the law or not, but it looks like there is a tremendous amount of smoke. and usually when there is a tremendous amount of smoke and they know so much about a political campaign, that is not the jurisdiction of these collections. maria: what did obama know? this is the president's national security advisor, nsa. you have to believe obama had a hand in it. >> this lady has a long history of lying. she lied about benghazi and a whole host of things. she has an audit trail that you can look at and draw a conclusion. mari she'll probablye the fifth. >> let her take the fifth. you bring in other people who were involved in this thing. maria: a lot of people are scratching their heads that jim comey is still running the f.b.i.
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did president trump make a mistake by keeping these obama holdovers in place? >> i'm preplexed by what jim comey has done. he left all these fell any on the table for hillary clinton. he never looked at the congressional testimony that was fictitious and made up. he had no problem saying that the president has been under investigation since july for this so-called russian b.s. which i think is total b.s. but then he wouldn't answer the question whether this leak which is a major deal is being investigated by the f.b.i. it's nonsensical his comments and flip-flopping. i don't understand it. it has to change. there has to be some changes. maria: is it too late to ask him to step down? >> i think the president is a
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little bit in the box while the so-called phoney russian connection. it's the fifth column marching down the road trying to diminish the administration and trying to stop everything they do. maria: it already has. there is no evidence of collusion. >> the deputy director of the f.b.i. told county was b.s. and so did clapper. maria: president trump's missile strike in syria sending a
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maria: it's time for our panel.
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i want to bring in ed rollins, lee carter and edmund sigfreid. the airstrikes the president launched against syria is getting broad support. ed * he met three world -- ed: , he met three world leaders and had an increasable meeting at the end of the week with the chinese president. he proved he's a decision maker. that's the most important thing a president can do. then he sent a good message to his own staff. straighten up and let's get moving. i think it was an a-plus week. maria: this might be the best week in his presidency so far. he gets an a-plus. maria: that's resonating with people as well.
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>> what people told me is they agree, across the aisle, that we had to do something about assad. there is no way we can do something about the middle east without dealing with assad. people said i like he was decisive and took action. he spoke to the american people as soon as it happened. it sent signals that we are not going to mess around in this country anymore, and we are excited about this. maria: it feels like the era of leading from behind has ended. >> this is a searing indictment on the obama administration. the president made a good start. but he needs to outline his long-time strategy. it's clear there won't be a diplomatic resolution. ambassador haley made it clear we need to get rid of him.
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the president needs to outline it to the american people what we do going forward to show we have thanked strength and leadership. ed: he didn't have the healthcare well done. the president has to make three or four decisions every week. he did it with great drama right there in front of the chinese. he sent a message around the world. now he has a couple weeks to get his tax plan together. this was a monental week and he was the star. maria: gordon chang says he brought the chinese president down to size by doing it in front of him. >> that's a fascinating way of putting it. i think the whole notion president trump could be so strong and decisive will change
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the whole game. maria: ""mornings with maria,"" i'll have an exclusive interview with president donald j. trump.
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