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down, charles we need to get it down for opioid epedemic and traffics, very important great progress. charles: thank you, here he is lou dobbs. lou: good evening. house republican leadership remains at war with president trump. again in effort to repeal and replace obamacare, at least 21 republicans have said they oppose the new bill. and republican leader can only afford police -- to lose 22 republican votes. trump administration still pushing ahead, hoping for a vote thursday, vice president pence spent much of the morning on capitol hill for a second time in as many days trying to persuade any holdouts.
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and president trump speaking at an event for air force academy football team, press law makers for a vote. >> house is health care coming? we're moving along. i think it's time now, right? lou: it is time. president trump also using the event to slam democrats for their claims they successfully blocked the president's priorities in the trillion dollar spending bill. >> after years of part o partisn bickering and gridlock this bill is a clear win for the america people, we brought lawmakersing it from both sides of the aisle to deliver a budget that funds the rebuilding of the united states military, makes historic investment in border second, and provides healthcare for our minors and school choice for disadvantage children. lou: and omb director mick
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mulvaney echoing the president's sentiment. >> my guess is the base is not going to be happy to know we're building this, we're taking their tax mayor money to build this. -- taxpayer money to build this. lou: our first guest said that house care bill is a work in progress. on spending bill he said many of key agenda items were left by the way side, joining me now, congressman mark meadows, i look ats spending bill, and $21 billion, national military spending, i say that looks like a win for the president and the country. but i am wondering where leadership is in the house? >> well, the additional military spending is something you and i we support. giving resources to the fighting men and women.
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that is critical. so i applaud the president, and certainly the leadership for that. but once you get beyond that, there are a number of key areas. you know how do you address sanctuary cities? how do you make sure we build a wall? how do you deal with some refugee crisis that we have in resettle. , this bill was silence on a lot of these presidential priorities, and i would say for americ people, yet here we are asked to vote on it and fund the government going forward. will we have a lets of conservative defections? yes, i think that president shares that frustration. you saw today, he was talking about a good maybe we need a good shut down, i think that more about frustration that we need to get 51 votes in senate. lou: well, let me put it really plainly. this is getting -- as we said in texas, stuck in my craw. folks talking about president in this process, and in point of
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fact, house speaker paul ryan, his leadership team, these fellows need to do a lot of explaining not the president of the united states, the president has had a historic beginning to his presidency, he is working. 3 people to the hill. trying to move the president's agenda. i got to say this leadership, that is -- this is a speaker who has blown it on healthcare. he is seems to have negotiated against himself, not the democrats in the spending bill. lord knows what awaits us. from the mind and the leadership imagine nation of paul ryan. how many failures can this man pile up and how many obstacles can he present to the president of the united states, the
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republican party the american people? >> well, the america people are not going to accept any more. to your point. is president working harder event including myself, i work around the clock trying to not only move ball forward but make sure we get it done. from the out works me, he -- i be on phone with him at midnight then at 5:30 the next morning here, is working for the american people, if more people knew that, they would have a grader appreciation. but with regard to leadership we have to deliver this week on health care, if we don't, it will be a failure of huge proportions. the leadership has to do that, did yowith you not just the houn senate as well, people are tired of excuses, if we're going to drain the swamp, send us all home, get new leadership start over. lou: one thing we talk about draining the swamp.
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president's motto and his promise, that swamp as you know was not created in 100 days it is not going to be drained within a 100 days. or near that. >> well said, that is -- you are spot on. i think that real critical thing is, this is grown overtime. and so, the american people have lost their patient -- patience, they want spreeds i strides in f draining that. lou: i don't understand. this president, has shown you all how to win a damn election. if i may swear. i am getting emphatic about it. >> you should. lou: he would not have won a presidential elect, unless in my judgment, donald trump would not have been there to lead you, you would not have had the change in direction and policy, and actions he has taken. turning the national
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conversation. whether the issue is illegal immigration, north korea, russia, you name it, he has already begun working on it. and for the party, not to support this president, the american people are not stupid. they are watching paul ryan, and mitch mcconnell, who has done a terrific job with neil gorsuch moving him to the high court. but by god it is time for the republicans to act like they know what theyre doing, and have trie-git iq's and spines and follow this president's lead. >> you have to start with the spine, and willing to move on forward. it is not necessarily the iq to worry bwe have to do -- lou: really smart fellows would not be acting like your leaders. >> well, you are right. wwe have to understand we made a promise, no excuses will be accepted and we have to deliver on the promises, i think that
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leadership is hearing that from americans. but certainly we're hearing that as we go back home, and it is one of those times we have -- we don't have any time to waste. it is now the time that we have to actually deliver, and let us start with health care this week. and move on tax reform in weeks to come. lou: from your lips to god's ears, how many votes does president have from freedom caucus healthcare? >> we have all but one of our members supporting president now, we've been out, and reaching beyond freedom cac us on move people from no to yes, i am optimistic that will work, working with our whips. charles: congressman, good on you, and thank you for being with us, thank you for your hard work. >> thank you. charles: we're coming right back, much more trade ahead, stay with us. >> doubters and detractors step
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back, president trump makes it clear. the wall will be built along our southern border. >> we are beginning to build the wall, and we'll keep out the gang members, criminals, drug and human traffickers that threaten our citizens and our security. >> we take up the president's battle to crushes drug cartels and secure the border with conservative comment tate or, ann cull tour -- our appreciate guest, are we moving closer to a war? stay with us, that is much more, straight ahead. so tell us your big idea for getting the whole country booking on choice hotels.com.
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lou: president today claims a policy victory in the deal to avoid a government shut down. >> we have more money now for the border than we've gotten in 10 years. the democrats didn't tell you that, they forgot, in their notes they forget to tell you. with enough money to make a down payment on the border wall. lou: joining me now to talk about all that is happening in washington, d.c., border security, spending bill,
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democratic be o obstructionism. best selling author, ann coult coulter. author of "new york times" bestseller in trump we trust. we you more extraordinary when permitted to speak. the berkeley situation, i thought you handled with masterfuly. >> thank you, i would have preferred to have spoken. lou: as would have america. >> yes, the speech was on immigration, and half of north america media was coming in from it. lou: shame on berkeley and shame on the fascist left. >> yes, don't send your kids to college. lou: not. >> i think any college, take the s.a.t., get your college acceptance letters and present those to your employers, ern everyone knows you don't learn anything at college any more.
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safe yourself $200,000. lou: where were you when i needed you. my children are thrilled. >> ask them if a learned anything. lou: i know they learned something. let me turn first to the president, he is -- he was off put to say the least this the democrats and senator schumer out declaring victory on a bipartisan effort to avoid a government shut down. i mean, how low can the democrats go? why is it most of us i think are pretty assured they can go quite a bit lower. >> yes, and much easier who no one is fighting back. which is what we have in congress, i was reading through the budget, it was a joke. how would it have been go
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different if it was a majority democrat senate, and house, and hillary clinton in the white house. they prohibit trump's justice department from enforcing federal law against marijuana dispensaries, oh, my gosh, is this a wish list from nancy pelosi's district? this is madness. trump knows more about things than i do. but i do know is how washington works, he better learn fast. everyone in the town is working against him, they will smile, shake his hand, and go back to their office, and do everything they can to undermine him. he is supposed to be a great negotiator, i have tricks for him. lou: before those tricks, let's go to the program. who are you most concerned about among those who are for him and in white house. any special personalities or
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just a broad vie >> returning to my -- lou: president, not only made a promise, but a great motto out of drain the swamp, i think -- it is fascinating to me. i sene little bit of it in you, that is impatience with the man who has turned the status quo upside down in the first 3 months of his presidency, you got national left wing media clacking, saying why hasn't he didn't this and that? every little thing he say or does is analyzed on eight pages and turned into a personal attack. meanwhile he is legislating, and he is moving forward with his
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agenda. rolling back regulations from the obama administration. putting through powering through two pipelines in one day. that obama fought for 5 years. it is antic on nar -- a change f direction and conversation. >> i would say that best change was accomplished by campaign itself. lou: gave us president trump, i agree. >> right, but also raised issued that neither political party would address, it exposed, my party the republican as frauds pretending to care about working class and middle class, all they care about is a tax cut for wall street, i'm not sure we're get those promises yet. the wall, how about the wall, why didn't see start building it on november 9. lou: it would be terrific had we been able to, as you know, you are self certifies and knowledgeable on how washington
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works, he has to have an appropriation. >> he does not. lou: well, yes he does. >> he does not. he is the commander in chief, it is his job to protect the borders. >> he could do a obama and create. >> he should have been there with a spade. and hardhat on november 9, starting the wall. >> and let's talk about your new book. title? >> in paper back it is, "in trumpism we trust." lou: original title, i believe it is -- i am begging you producers, show me the cover of the book. there we go. that took us about a minute and a half. we're coming right back, more with ann coulter as we convert her not only too trumpism, bt to trump himself.
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be sure to stay with us, we'll be right back. vote in our poll, question is, do you believe that president deserves high marks and fore bear an for dealinance for deal- >> no. lou: no offense to anyone, don't let ann in anyway color your response. cast your vote on twitter. follow me on twitter, like me on facebook, follow he on instagram. on wall street stocks closed higher, dow jones industrials 36 points higher, and nasdaq up 4, a new record high for nasdaq, volume on the big board approaching 4 billion shares. apple shares, falling in after-hours trading, reported earnings that beat targets but missed on revenue, expirk and ie
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president trump. >> you attract more skinheads than free rogaine, have you more people marching again you know that cancer, you talk like a sign language gorilla who got hit in the head, only thing your mouth is good for is being vladimir putin's [bleep] -- holster . lou: why would anyone be permitted to keep a job after speaking like that about the president of the united states on abc, by contrast, jimmy kimmel attacking repealing obamacare. >> whatever you believe in, we need to make sure that people who are supposed to represent us, meeting about this right now in washington understand that, let's stop with. this is not football there are no teams we are not the team it is the united states, don't
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let their partisan squabbles divide us on something every decent person wants. lou: back with me now, ann coulter, i know that like me, you just fila sure -- we have politics under control on the part of comedians. jimmy kimmel not acknowledging that preexisting conditions are anticipated in the republican alternative. >> well, like to say something about each one. but, i start with policy, there is a reason that liberals are still attacking me for my attack on the jersey girls this technique of putting out a personal anecdote suffering of someone, jersey girls dead parents. kid -- this suffering child to promote some heinous policy is
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an old trick of the left, i got them to give du up for 10 years, where is it , of course, america is going to pay for someone with some horrible medical condition, whatever it is, the question, what jimmy kimmel is insisting on, in all your viewers pay for that surgery through insurance premium as opposed to a general welfare fund where i don't know warren buffett pays more than ann does, no, we need to separate welfare cases which will always be taken care of. free market, my plan for obamacare, solved everything, separate welfare, and the free market, keep obamacare. and let ann buy insurance on the health market. lou: and colbert. >> all -- i don't know what it is with these -- there seems to be an unlimited supply for
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a few pot head millennials with epithets about trump, my object is not for vulgarity. it is a tumor of humor, this is not fun to string a bunch of epitheting it with colorful imagery, there is no joke, no trick, there nothing clever, but pot heads sit back and they are laughing. lou: they are responsible for their content there is no limit at cbs. >> you are probably right, if it was funny, i would not be on yeck, my object is it is not or mostly funny. >> ann coulter, not funny. her judgment is -- lastly on donald trump? i say he is done a terrific job, i know have you some misgivings.
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i have the feeling you don't fully appreciate the obstacles that have been put in front of him. >> i do, but there are tricks, for example, one i would think that i never read art of the deal, i think it would be in "the art of the deal," don't give away an issue that you are happy to give away before negotiating, why did he give up daca before asking for the wall. and make them vote on the wall, could america be any clearer that we want a wall, i want republicans and democrats vote against the wall, if they don't want the wall, fine, get it on the record. lou: with that, ann coulter great to have you with us. >> thank you. lou: we're coming right book with much more. stay with us. >> president trump praising the budget deal, is a big win for the nation's military. >> we have ended years of painful cuts to our military,
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and just achieved a $21 billion increase in defense spending. >> former speaker of the house newt gingrich gives the president great credit, saying he is now in a better position to fight the dems in september. >> when next budget battle begins. >> and in base jumper finding a way to see one of 7 wonders of the world, we'll show you his leap of faith next in the video, stay with us, we're back with the video and a great deal more. we were able to replace everything in it. liberty did what? liberty mutual paid to replace all of our property that was damaged. and we didn't have to touch our savings. yeah, our insurance won't do that. well, there goes my boat. you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty stands with you™
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lou: hillary clinton claiming election were held october 27. she says she takes responsibility for the loss, but then proceeded to blame everyone and just about everyone else but herself. >> i was on the way to winning until the combination of jim comey's letter and russian wikileaks raised doubts in the minds of people who were inclined to vote for me but got cared off. lou: president trump tweeted back, we need 60 votes in the senate which are not there.
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we either elect more republican senators or change the rules to 51%. now to assess that, on you next guest says the president will be in a better position to fight in september than now. joining me, the former speaker of the house. newt gingrich and author of the upcoming book, understanding trump. it comes out june 13. newt, great to have you with us. congratulations on the new book. title couldn't be more apt to our conversation tonight. is he right? a good shutdown to clear the way for better judgment and better results? >> he's right if it's the only way to get it done. if they set up the strategy and
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communicate to the country, the country will support them. we closed the government twice when i was speaker. it didn't hurt us at all. if the country understood we were in a battle over reforming welfare and balancing the budget. but right now is a different situation. this was the last obama budget. trump was not yet prepared, had not laid the ground work for a government shutdown. and the truth is he made a lot. democrats made a huge mistake because they didn't read the fine print. he got the money for the wall. when you read what they actually wrote, the only thing they blocked was concrete. they didn't block steel, they didn't block other what is of doing it. the democrats only stopped one part. they have plenty of money to build the first phase of the
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wall. he also broke the liberal mantra that you could only increase defense spending if you increase domestic spending, fan for the first time in a long time the military got an additional $21 billion without having to pay anything to liberals. there are a number of good things in this bill. they have strong second amendment rights provisions in the bill. paul ryan said there are a lot of good things in this bill that people are overlook. lou: paul ryan was exactly wrong in opposing the president. at some point does paul ryan not have to leave the speaker's office? he has been passive aggressive and obstructionist in on thers. i credit president trump for his forbearance, his patience and
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the conference, i can't imagine putting up with any more nonsense if ryan doesn't deliver on healthcare this time. >> it's not ryan's to deliver by himself. you have 200 republicans independently elected. lou: he should quit informing the white house how many votes he has and how assured the president should be and how confident he is of the outcome of a vote that was never held. >> i think he has gotten a lot more cautious. i think they clearly made a mistake the first round. this is a man who has been in the job for just about two years. it's his responsibility to move that legislation it's his responsibility as speaker of the house to support his the president of the his own party,
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the leader of the party, and you are making it sound like he's an observer. i can't believe that. >> i didn't say he was an observer. i said he made a mistake. he thought they had the votes and they didn't have the votes. thatles called a mistake. lou: should he be held accountable if he doesn't move this legislation? lou: should he be relieved of the speakership? >> no, that's nonsense. lou: nonsense is not delivering for your own party for the president of the united states. >> you cannot deliver in a free society what people won't vote for. the challenge is, and you got a huge boost out of the "wall street journal" which clearly stated the issue of preconditions and explained the republican bill is actually better than the obamacare bill.
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the number one problem the republicans have is communications. lou: you make it sounds like i am sucking he should be holding a gun to the heads of the representative when you are reinforcing what i did imply, he should be building consensus, canvassing the conference and making sure of the vote he's assuring the president. >> i agree with you, and i think that's what they are trying to do. having been speaker, it's a really hard time. this is the first time we have had a speaker with a republican house and senate in a long time. they are learning to be a governing majority. but they clearly made some mistakes, and they will have to keep learning. lou: perhaps they should follow the leadership of the president with just a thought. you get the last word.
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>> under our constitution they are coequal branches, the legislative branch comes first, not second, presidents have to learn to work with the congress, not order the congress. this president will learn that. it's not the same as business, and i think he will be remarkably successful over time. he was successful in the budget negotiation this week. there is a lot of good stuff in this bill, paul ryan deserves part of the credit for that and president trump deserves the bulk of the credit, but it was a team effort to develop that bill. lou: mr. speaker, always good to have you with us. please roll the video. an historic feat at an historic site. a base jump from the top of the treasury in petra, jordan. it's less than 100 feet wide.
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he landed perfectly, an astounding historic stunt. protesters blocking doors at the texas governor's office over a sanctuary city bill. the man driving that legislation is the governor of the state of texas, greg abbott. we'll talk about the latest on the state's efforts to deal with sanctuary cities and enforce federal immigration laws. we'll be right back. what if technology
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lou: joining me to talk about the great state of texas and its crackdown against sanctuary cities. texas governor greg abbott. congratulations on moving the legislation forward and getting passage. what's the next step? >> it passed first out of the texas senate. it passes out of the texas house. there are minor differences between the house and senate. here is what we do know. because it passed out of both of those chambers, we know a bill will be coming my desk.
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the real deal is texas is going to be a leader nationally by insuring we ban sanctuary city policies that has real teeth and consequences and officials who adopt sanctuary city policies. it will be impossible to have sanctuary city policies in the state of texas. president trump moves forward along with the attorney general jeff sessions. 20 people were arrested yesterday. was it yesterday? protesting the sanctuary cities and talk about texas not being friendly to quote-unquote immigrants. it's a bizarre charge, isn't it? >> it is, lou. as everyone knows, texas is a very welcoming state.
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texas is made up of immigrants. and texas is * pro immigration. issue of is illegal immigration. people need to recognize the distank difference between the two. texas has been long connected to the hispanic community even before texas was a state, and we remain that way. by and large hispanic community agrees the rule of law needs to be aplaced and enforced. texas will be a safe state for everybody, one that follows the rule of law and lead the way in a way that's fair to everybody. lou: travis county where austin is located, 142 criminally charged illegal immigrants released due to the denial of i.c.e. detainers. will there can consequences for the sheriff and any law enforcement officer who simply
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says the heck with federal law, and the request for cooperation? >> right. once this law passes, it will ghost into effect september first. any act by the travis county sheriff that violates this law will subject them to stiff pelties. it can subject them to jail. two, sepate from jail they can be removed from office. three they can be subject to fines that would add top $9 million a year. $25,000 a day. there are stiff penalties and meaningful consequences to insure we'll be able to ban angst wary cities. and i as governor will retain my ability to defund these counties of the grants they are receiving. i lrm defunded travis county of $1.5 million. lou: governor, great to have you
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with us. congratulations. up next, the trump a ministration slamming obstructionist dems for claiming victories on a bipartisan budget deal. >> they wanted a shutdown. we know that. they were desperate to make this administration look like we couldn't function, like we couldn't govern. lou: the dean of republican politics, ed rollins joins us next. stay with us. we'll assess the day's events.
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lou: in our online poll we asked, do you believe speaker ryan's failure to include border wall funding and crackdown on sanctuary cities means he should be replaced forthwith? 91% of you say yes he should be replaced. there you are. mr. speaker. north korea accusing the united states of pushing the korean peninsula to the brink of nuclear war. pyongyang reacting to two supersonic bombers deployed over the korean peninsula. a south korean spokesman said the exercise is to deter north
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korean aggressions and deter against another nuclear test. the republican fight to repeal and replace obamacare, and and foreign policy debates. ed rollins, great to have you here. we talked to ann coulter, mark meadows and speaker gingrich and greg abbott from the great state of texas it's a powerful dose of republican thought. there doesn't to me seem to be sufficient support for paul ryan to withstand responsibility for failure to follow the president. ed: everyone seems to be unwilling to land a punch on paul ryan and hold him accountable for the job he's
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suppose to do. i didn't like the former speaker's comment that he can't move numbers. he can move numbers. he moved numbers when he was speaker. you don't tell the president you have the votes if you don't have the seats. dose have the seats? is he giving a list to the white house of who's not there? but you can't bring that bill up again and lose it. we are leaving thursday to go for another week's vacation. lou: why don't they follow the work ethic of the president of the united states. this is a nonstop -- lou: the daily routine. ed: they can follow the daily routine that should be there for them. what worries me, whenever the republicans are unhappy about
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something like this budget vote, the democrats are gleeful, i assume they won. when the "new york times" and washington post says they won, then something is wrong. this is the first giant step. this president has to have a budget next year that drives a tough agenda. to say you only get 2/3 of what you ask for in defense is a scary thing to me. >> i agr with newton one thing. president trump will bfar stronger as we head towards the fiscally 18 budget. it will be his first real budget. and i believe he will roll ryan and anyone dumb enough to get in his way. what do you think? >> i think the president learned a great deal. each day he's got extraordinary people around him. i see from things he's saying, the budget process is a critical process. that's what sets your agenda.
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and he made it clear what he wants to do, the priorities of the country, rebuilding the defense after 30 years need to be rebuilt. and i think he has to work hard and make sure his team is working hard. the other thing is you have to get rid of the 60% vote in the senate. that means -- lou: i don't want to hear from anybody including mitch mcconnell, we are the senate, we are special. ed: president trump was elected to do something, and he's not going to be able to do something if the democrats continue to block the legislation of the majority. lou: president trump is there first as a disrupter and second a bold leader. he's going to execute his agenda and that's what the american people certainly expect and demand. >> that's what we need.
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lou: the status quo with the same players, not what it's about. thanks for being here. thank you for being with us. pat buchanan, congressman ted poe, good night. kennedy: think the gop healthcare plan is a done deal? think again. pl the nsa reports it's ending one of it most controversial surveillance programs. the judge is here to explain why that's still not good enough. the united ceo is grilled on capitol hill. time to take off. if you love freedom you should hate the very idea of single-pair insurance. but sadly that's where we are head and it's sick. single payer is all about total

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