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liz: president trump about to speak to the boy scouts in west virginia. we'll bring it to you live when the president speaks. melissa francis "making money" next. melissa: you are watching "making money." president trump expected to address the 2017 boy scott jamboree in 15 minutes after making a statement on healthcare earlier today. adam shapiro joins us. reporter: the pressure is on. the president said any senator who votes against starting debate is telling america that you are fine with the o-care nightmare.
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this isn't the first time we have heard president trump use the o-care nightmare phrase. he talked about that during the 3:00 hour when he met with what he calls victims of obamacare. families who had to deal with the negative consequences of obamacare. >> for senate republicans, this is their chance to keep their promise. over and over again they said repeal and replace. repeal and replace. but they can now keep their promise to the american people to provide emergency relief to those in desperate need of help and to improve healthcare for all americans. reporter: what we'll see tomorrow in the senate is a motion to proceed to get on the bill. the bill they will be talking about is the house repeal and
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replacement of obamacare, the reform of obamacare. there is a potential for amendment such as a permanent repeal for the senate to vote upon. the key is getting to the vote for a debate. the president putting pressure on senators who have said no or are non-committal. he will be in virginia with senator capito. she was a no. but that may change tomorrow. even ted cruz says they don't know if they have enough votes just to get to the debate. melissa: for more on the healthcare central bell, we have ford o'connell, paul howard, and independent women's forum senior fellow gayle trotter. ford, i'll start with you. the president seems to have
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succeshave -- -- to have succeen getting them on the bill. if you don't have enough votes to take it off, won't it be embarrassing? ford: inacross is not an option. people are hurting. he want the legislative process to work and he's trying to explain to senators -- we only have a couple holdouts. some are on the conservative side who want to repeal everything about obamacare. but they have to understand what their task is and that's to govern. if they can understand something is better than nothing, they will be on the right track. if they don't vote to proceed, what they are telling the american people and their backers back home is they are satisfied with the status quo. i like the fact that president trump is keeping their feet to the fire.
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melissa: it's like trying to threaten cockroaches out into the light. herding cats. trying to get anyone to do anything. >> reconciliation is a track for republicans. they have so little room for error. only 2 votes to break a tie with mike pence. get this to the floor, move towards. doing something is better than doing nothing. melissa: these people are pathetic. there i no other way to explain it. gayle: if he wants to obama era rule allows congress to fake that they are a small business and file certificates with the d.c. health exchange saying they
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only have 50 employees instead of 1,000 employees. if president trump rescinds that order it will light the fire under congressional republicans and make sure that the policies harming american healthcare will harm congressional healthcare. melissa: there are some congress people who are smart enough not to take the healthcare the government was offering them, knowing they were getting something better than their constituents and they would be called to the carpet later. maybe that's what people should do. call out the congress women and congressmen. ford: the fact that president trump has to remind them of the stakes of this battle when they have been campaigning on it for 7 years. 48 of the current senate republicans actually voted for
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the full repeal of obamacare, and now all of a sudden they get cold feet? let's remember what obamacare is at the heart of it. it's incremental socialism. what president obama want to do with repeal and replace is basically stabilize medicaid, stabilize the individual market and make sure we can cover preexisting conditions. how hard is this? this is what we talked about for so long. if they don't do anything, you have to wonder as a republican, what is this we have been fighting for? melissa: maybe we should start the hashtag get on with the bill you cowards. >> they are looking at their own constituency and thinking how am i going to survive this process. melissa: it's hard for me to believe anyone sitting on the
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sidelines, that's the politically expedient move for them. in what district are you going to respect your congressman or senator more because they did knot nothing and didn't show up and vote at this point in time. gayle: make them vote it's something every american should be telling their congressman. make them vote. make them put their fingerprints on this. melissa: we are talking about voting to take up the measure. in mccon said that days ago. by virtue of voting question tomorrow, you are not repealing anything with that vote. if you vote no tomorrow you are saying basically i don't want to do any work on this. i'm refusing to do what i was sent here to do. how is that the right move? ford: this is a motion to proceed to make congress do it
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job and have debates and have amendments. even if they do get a bill out, they still have to go back to the house before they can send it to the president's desk. let's make sure the president can talk about this versus sound bites. republicans are very scared because they think trump's tweet and his actions will be the reason why they will get hit at the ballot box in 2018. their job was to get this done. if they don't do things to get things done, they shouldn't be in congress in the first place. melissa: i was talking to senator rand paul last week. he said he would vote no on this baits wasn't a full repeal. to me that sound so hollow. because he could vote yes to take it up. >> look how democrats proceed. they have different goals.
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but they say anything that moves us in the right direction we'll take. we'll take chip and medicate expansion. so creating an artificial bulwark isn't the answer. melissa: democrats are pitching a new economic agenda as the party tries to take the *'s mantel on jobs and the economy in 2018. (microphone feedback) listen up, heart disease. you too, unnecessary er visits. and hey, unmanaged depression, don't get too comfortable. we're talking to you, cost inefficiencies and data without insights. and fragmented care- stop getting in the way of patient recovery
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>> american families deserve a better deal so this country works for everyone. today democrats start presenting that better deal to the american people. >> senator chuck schumer presenting a better deal as democrats roll out their long awaited flu agenda. the -- new agenda. it seems to be a course correction from 2016 and very similar to mountainr president trump. democrats focusing on the american worker. is it too late? former bain capital partner, and the washington examiner's white house correspondent sarah westwood is joining us in just a second. ed, i talked to one of the democrats working on this earlier today.
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she said the policy behind it is apprenticeships. the other thing was the shovel-ready infrastructure jobs. the apprenticeship was something president trump was talking about. it makes a lot of sense. did a lot of great stuff in germany. but he was roundly ridiculed for coming up with that. >> they are a little bit late. when they started 8 years ago and unemployment was high it would have been a good idea. the idea we'll retrain people into new jobs -- >> it's the next generation coming up. people in school that aren't studying for the jobs that are out there, there are all these coding jobs, then there are other jobs, there is all kind of stuff where there is demand and not enough people. >> the teachers union supported
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by the democrats have stood in the way of changes trying to get to school choice, for example. it's been a tough road to who, - to hoe to get apprenticeships in school. they don't want to lose their jobs or go back and retrain. they are resistant to changes in the school district. melissa: one of the models i have seen is companies in the area. i have talked to lots of ceos. if they partner with local schools to set up program and education where they are paying for it? if they are training the workers they would need later. they don't need to use a lot of government fund. anybody who want to learn skills would have a job in the community. what's wrong with that idea?
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>> there are ways to engage in the worker training. i'll tell you how not to do it. to cut the funding by 0% overall and totally for people over 65. melissa: you went to trump is the devil which is how democrats got into this. >> he's not the devil. but started saying it's eerily familiar with trump's proposal. it's the opposite. trump wants to gut it. i agree with the premise that the training programs have a lot of value. melissa: he did the resist trump thing. vote for us because we are not him and he's darth vader. it works on people who think trump is darth vader. but for people who think he's
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creating jobs, he's not that persuasive. >> we are going to raise the minimum wage. seattle tried that. they lost 9% employment, low-wage employment as a result. they said they will spend a trillion dollars in infrastructure. that would be great if money grew on trees. but when you have 4 1/2 percent unemployment and you want to spend a trillion dollars? where is that money going to come from? the private sector. this proposal is spend, spend, spend, regulate, regulate, regulate. they regulated wall street. how did that work out. $2 trillion of savings sitting on the sidelines with zero interest rates and people can't get mort gangs. melissa: it seems like the
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problem the democrats are having is everybody on wall street. every ceo, everybody in new york, they are all democrats. it seems like they lost touch with the working people, the real folks out there who showed up to vote for trump. how do you get those people back. >> don't look at the trump cabinet if you believe every rich person is a democrat. if you back out the 3 million hillary won by. >> that's like saying whoever got the most of yards won the football game. it's about the points on the board, my friend. >> i'm saying trump did better among working people. he promised -- i guarantee you, melissa, have me back in a year or two and let's talk about how many coal jobs he restored. talk to me in a year oh two with
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a straight face that he's don't. melissa: like all the hofl-ready jobs barack obama was going to fill. >> the employment generation numbers in the past six months since trump has been president are weak compared to the 7 to 8 years obama was in. that's by any re congress. melissa: trump the darth vader. got it. jared kushner speaking after the senate intel meeting. we'll tell you what he had to say next. introducing new parodontax. the toothpaste that helps prevent bleeding gums. if you spit blood when you brush or floss you may have gum problems and could be on the journey to much worse. help stop the journey of gum disease. try new parodontax toothpaste. ♪
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transparent in providing all requested information. melissa: that was jared kushner speak after his two-hour long closed door meeting with the senate committee saying he did not collude with russia. joining me, madison, do you think the democrats will be satisfied with that statement? the whole russia thing is over and we can move on. >> we can only wish and dream. it's become i think obnoxious. it seems democrats are trying to discredit trump's presidency pretending the only reason he's there is because russia put him
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there. mel report only evidence of colluding with russia i have seen is when the russians gave it clintons half a million for a speech by bill. putin called them directly to say thank you afterwards. that's the pay part of pay-for-play. it's amazing we are talking about what may have happened with the trumps that doesn't come close to that. >> we need to get to the bottom of that. today was the first step talking to jared kushner with the senate intel committee staff. his statement was pretty lawyerly in terms of putting the details out there. but we need to let the process play out. over 100 meetings were omitted.
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it seems like every single day he's updating. melissa: the actual details kevin was talking about is the idea he turned in his form or his assistant did before they turned in any of the foreign meeting at all. he left off every single meeting with every single form individual from 22 different countries. and somehow that's being construed as he's adding a new person every day and trying to couch every single meeting he had with everybody from 22 countries? i'm having a tough time getting there. >> the important differentiation is that meet something one and having a meeting with someone are two different things. as i walked count hallway to sit down here today i met quite a few people, but i did not have meetings with them.
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if you are donald trump, jr., you don't even remember who these people are because it's oh brief. melissa: how about cashing a check for half a million dollars then taking a $phone call from putin. >> it wasn't just a casual handshake and meet and greet it was phone conversations when barack obama was still president. the one with kislyak where jared kushner was trying to set up a private communique while president obama was still in office to talk about russian sanctions. that's a troubling thing. melissa: whenever we hear about the back channel conversations going on between president obama
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or president obama and the rainans to talk about the deal they were making on ending iranian sanctions? >> the key thing as you said, president obama. president obama was president at that time having those conversations as our head of state. two months before the inauguration jared kushner is having these conversations which troubled national security officials which is one of the reasons the information was put out there because of the concerns of the nature of these conversations with the russian ambassador. melissa: the american people are thinking there is no bottom. >> there was a bottom to watergate. melissa: let's leave on that note. president trump expected to address boy scouts in west virginia any minute now. we'll have the speech and much more on fox business.
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tillerson advised against it. madison when you look at what president obama has actually done since he has been in office with regard to russia, whether it's the tomahawk missiles in syria or -- i think we'll listen in. here is president trump at boy scout jamboree. >> if you think that was an easy trip, you are wrong. but i am thrilled. 19th boy scout jamboree. boy, you have a lot of people. the press will say it's about 200 people.
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it looks like about 45,000 people. you set a record today. [cheers and applause] tonight we put aside all of the policy fights in washington, d.c. you have been hearing about with the fake news and all of that, we are going to put that -- [cheers and applause] we are going to put that aside. instead we are going to talk about success. about how all of you amazing young scouts can achieve your dreams. what to think. what i have been thinking about. you want to achieve your dreams. who the hell wants to speak about politics when i'm in front of the boy scouts. [cheers and applause] there are many great honors that
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come with the job of being president of the united states. but look out at this incredible ima they aring of mostly young patriots, mostly young. i'm especially proud to speak to you as the honorary president of the boy scouts of america. [chanting usa!] you have the wrong people of integrity who will serve and uphold the sacred values of our nation. i want to thank the boy scouts president, the chairman and the thousands of volunteers who have made this a life-changing
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experience for all of you. and when they asked me to be here i said absolutely yes. [cheers and applause] >> we can't forget these people. i want to salute the moms and dads and troop leaders who are here tonight. thank you for making scouting possible. when you volunteer for the boy scouts you are not only shaping young lives, you are shaping the future of america. the united states has no better citizens than its boy scouts. no better. [cheers and applause] the values, traditions and
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skills you you learn here will serve you throughout your lives. and just as importantly they will serve your families, your cities, and in the future and in the present will serve your country. the scouts believe in putting america first. [cheers and applause] i go to washington and i see all these politicians. and i see the swamp. and it's not a good place. day said we ought to change it from the word swamp to the word cesspool or sewer, but it's not good. not good. and i see what's going on, and
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believe me i would much rather be with you, that i can tell you. [cheers and applause] the reason i love this and the reason i really wanted to be here is because pass president i rely on former boy scouts every single day and so do the american people. it's amazing how many boy scouts we have at the highest level of our great government. many of my top advisors in the white house were scouts. 10 members of my cabinet were scouts. can you believe that? 10. secretary of state rex tillerson is not only a boy scout, he's your former national president.
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the vice president of the united states mike pence, good guy, was a scout and it meant so much to him. [cheers and applause] some of you here tonight might even have camped out in this yard when mike was the governor indiana. but the scouting was very, very important. and by the way, where are our indiana scouts tonight? i wonder if the television cameras will follow you. they don't like doing that when they see these massive crowds. they don't like doing that. hi, folks.
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[cheers and applause] a lot of love in this big beautiful place. a lot of love. a lot of love for our country. a lot of love for our country. secretary of the interior ryan zinke is here tonight. come here, ryan. ryan is an eagle scout from big sky country in montana. and by the way, he's doing a fantastic job. he makes sure we leave our national parks and federal lands better than we found them in the best scouting tradition. so thank you very much, ryan. secretary of energy rick perry
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of texas, an eagle scout from the great state. the first time he came to the national jamboree was in 1964. he was very young then. and rick told me just a little while ago it totally changed his life. so rick thank you very much for being here. we are doing a lot with energy. and very soon, rick, we'll be an energy exporter. isn't that nice? an energy exporter. in order words, we'll be selling our energy inside of buying it from everybody all over the globe. so that's good. we'll be energy dominant and
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i'll tell you what, the folks in west virginia who were so nice to me -- boy, have we kept our promise. we are going on and on. we november west virginia, we want to thank you. where is west virginia, by the way? thank you. secretary tom price is also here today. dr. price still lives the scout oath, helping to keep millions of americans strong and healthy as our secretary of health and human services, and he's doing a great job and hopefully he will get the votes tomorrow to start our path towards killing this horrible thing known as obamacare that's really hurting us.
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[crowd chants "usa"!] are you going to get the votes? he better get them. otherwise they will say, tom, you are fired. i'll get somebody. you better get senator cap cap ito to vote for it. and get other senators to vote for it. after 7 years of saying repeal and replace obamacare, we have a chance to do it. hopefully they will do it.
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as we can see just by looking at our government, in america scouts lead the way. and another thing i noticed, and i noticed it all my life. there is a tremendous spirit with being a scout. more so than almost anything i can think of. so whatever is going on, keep doing it. it's incredible to watch, believe me. [cheers and applause] each of these leaders will tell you their road to american success, and they are a great, great story, was paved with the patriotic american values and traditions they learned in the boy scouts. and some day many years from now when you look back on all of the adventures in your lives, you will be able to say the same, i
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got my tart as a scout. just like these incredibly great people that are doing such a good job for our country. so that's going to happen. boy scout values are american values, and great boy scouts become great, great americans. as the scout law says, a scout is trustworthy, loyal -- we could use some more loyalty, i can tell you that -- that was very impressive. you have heard that before. but here you learned the reward
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of hard work and perseverance. er in ever give, never quit. never ever quit. you learned the satisfaction of building a roaring campfire, reaching a montana summitter earning a -- sum -- reaching a mountain summit or earning a merit badge. there is nothing like the feeling of achievement from your own hard work, sweat and tears. there is nothing like the. do you agree with that? [cheers and applause] i'm waving to people so small back there i can't even see them. these are a lot of people. that is so incredible. by the way. what do you think the chances are that this incredible massive crowd, record-setting is going to be shown on television
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tonight? 1 per or zero d1% or -- 1% or zero. the fake media will say president trump spoke before a small crowd of boy scouts today. that is some crowd. fake media, fake news. thank you. and i'm honored by that. all of you people i can't even see you. thank you. i hope you can hear. through scouting you also learned to believe in your selves, to have confidence in your abilities and to take responsibility for your own life. when you face down new challenges, and you will have plenty of them, develop talents you never thought possible, and lead your teammates through
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daring trials, you discover that you can handle anything, and you learn it by being a scout. it's great. you can do anything, you can be anything you want to be, but in order to succeed, you must find out what you love to do. you have to find your passion no matter what they tell you. if you don't -- i love, too. nice guy. what am i going to do? he sounds like a nice person. he, he, he. i do love you.
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[crowd chanting "we love trump"!] >> did president obama ever come to a jamboree? [crowd yelling no] >> we'll be back. answer is no, but we'll be back. in life in order to be successful, and you people are well on the road to success, you have to find out what makes you excited. what makes you want to get up
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each morning and go to work. you have to find it. if you love what you do and dedicate yourself to your work, then you will gain momentum, and you have to. you need the word momentum. you will gain that momentum and each success will create another success. the word momentum. i'll tell you a story that's very interesting for me. when i was young there was a man named william levitt. anybody hear of levittown? he was a very successful man. he was a home builder. he became an unbelievable success. he built homes.
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at night he would go to major sites with teams of people and scour the sites for nails and sawdust and small pieces of wood, and they cleaned the sights so when the workers came in the next morning the sites would be spotless and clean. he did it properly. he did this for 20 years. then he was offered a lot of money for his company and sold his company for a tremendous amount of money. at the time especially. this is a long time ago. sold his company for a tremendous amount of money. he bought a big yacht and had an interesting life. i won't go anymore than that because you are boy scouts. should i tell you? you are boy scouts, but you know life. so look at you.
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who would think this is the boy scouts, right? he had a very, very interesting life. and the company that bought this company was a big conglomerate. they didn't know anything about building homes and picking up the nails and sawdust and selling it and the scraps of wood. this was a big conglomerate. after a 10-year period they were losing a lot with it. it didn't mean anything to him. they couldn't sell it so they called william levitt up and said would you like to buy back your company? he said yes, i would. he got bored with this life of yachts and sailing in the south of france and other places. you won't get bored. of course having a few of good years like that isn't so bad. but what happened, he bought
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back his company an bought back a lot of empty land. and he worked hard in getting zoning and worked hard starting to develop, and in the end he failed, and edfailed badly. lost all of his money. he went personally bankrupt, and he was now much older. and i saw him at a cocktail party. and it was very sad because the hottest people in new york were at this party. the party of steve ross who is one of the great people he came you have and discovered really founded time western. he was a great d time-warner. i was doing well so i got invited to the party. i was very young. i saw a lot of people in the entertainment business. i see sitting in the corner was
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a little old man who is all by himself, nobody was talking to him. i immediately recognized that that man was the once great william levitt of levitttown. and i meadey went over. i wanted to talk to him more than the hollywood communications people. i said i'm donald trump. he said i know. i said how are you doing? he goes, not well, not well at all. and i knew that. by said not well at all. and he explained what was happening. and how bad it's been and how hard it's been. and i said what exactly happened? why did this happen to you? you are one of the greats ever in our industry? why did this happen to you? and he said, donald, i lost my
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momentum. i lost my momentum. and word you never hear what he you are talking about success when some of these guys who never made 10 cents they are on television giving you things about how to be successful and the only thing they ever did was a book and a tape. it was very sad. and i never forgot that moment. and i thought about it. and it's exactly true. he lost his momentum. he took this period of time off. long years. when he got back he didn't have that same momentum. in life i always tell this to people. you have to know whether or not you continue to have the momentum. if you don't have it, that's okay, because you are going to go on and you are going to learn and you are going to do things that are great. but you have to know about the word momentum. but the big thing, never quit,
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never give. do something you love. when you do something you love, you will never do. you will give it a shot, again and again. you will be successful. remember this, you are not working. because when you are doing something that you love, like i do, i love my business. but this is a little bit different. who thought this was going to happen. we're having a good time, doing a good job. when you do something that you love, remember this, it not wo work. so you will work 24/7, all of the time, at the end of the year, you are not really working. when you are not doing something thathat you like, or when you ae forced to do something that you really don't like, that is called work. it is hard work. tedious work. as much as you can, do something
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that you love. work hard, and never, ever give up, and you will be tremendously successful. [applause] with that i have to tell you our economy is doing great, our stock market has picked up since the election. do we remember that date? was that a beautiful day? what a date. do you remember that famous night on television, november 8. they said, these dishonest people, where they said, there is no path to victory for donald trump. they forgot about the forgotten people, by the way, they are not forgetting about the forgotten people any more. they are going crazy trying to figure it out, but i told them, far too late, it's far too late.
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do you remember that incredible night with the maps. and the republicans are red, and democrats are blue. and that map was so red it was unbelievable, and they don't know what to say. you know we have a tremendous disadvantage in the electoral college, popular vote is easier, because new york, california, illinois, you have to practically run the east coast, we did, we run florida, south carolina, north carolina, pennsylvania. we won and won. so when they said there is no way to victory, there is no way to 270, i went to maine 4 times. because it is one vote, we won.
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but we won. one vote, i went there because i kept hearing we're 269, but then, wisconsin came in. many, many years, michigan came in. so we worked hard there. you know my opponent. did not work hard there. because she was told -- ?s she s told she was going to win michigan, i said, wait, the car industry is moving to mexico. why are they allowing it to move? do you see those car industries, do you see what happening, they are coming back to michigan, back to ohio, they are starting to peal back in. we go to wisconsin, now wisconsin had not been won in many, many years by a
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republican. we go to wisconsin we had tremendous crowds. and i'd leave the massive crowds, and say, why are we going to lose this state. the polls also fake news, the polls were saying, but we won wisconsin. i have to tell you, when what we did in all fairness is an unbelievable tribute to you and all other millions and millions of people who came out and voted for make america great again. [cheers and applause] >> forgive me for dipping in to sign off, this is president trump in west virginia talking to the boy scouts of america, the crowd is roaring, it is enormous, we have showed you that crowd several times, the president said he was not sure you at home were not going to
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see the size of crowd. lou dobbs is up next. trish: i am trish regan in for lou dobbs who is off tonight. and in tomorrow. president telling republicans they have not done their job in ending the obamacare nightmare after 7 years of promises, senators were not only ones who took heat, president also blasts attorney general jeff sessions on twitter for not investigating the clintons. fox news correspondent kevin corke is traveling with the president in west virginia, where the president is speaking to the boy scouts at their yearly jamboree. reporter: hey there, he is town


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