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tv   The Intelligence Report With Trish Regan  FOX Business  August 22, 2017 11:00pm-1:00am EDT

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so the democrats have no idea, no policy, no vision for the country other than total socialism and maybe a step beyond socialism from what i'm seeing. under their plan for america, your taxes will double or triple, your services will diminish, and your borders will be left wide open for everybody to come in and enjoy our country. obamacare is a disaster. and think, think. we were just one vote away from victory after 7 years of everybody proclaiming repeal and replace. one vote away. one vote. one vote away.
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we were one vote away. think of it. 7 years! the republicans -- and again you have some great senators -- but we were one vote away from repeal and replace. [crowd chants "drain the swamp"] >> but they all said, mr. president, your speech was so good last night, please don't mention any names. so i won't. i won't.
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no, i won't. one vote away. i will not mention any names. very presidential. isn't it? and nobody want me to talk about your other senator who is weak on borders, weak on crime. so i won't talk about him. nobody want me to talk about him. nobody knows hot hell he is. and now i haven't mentioned any named. so now everybody is happy. but we are going to get rid of obamacare. i will never stop. one vote! i will never stop. we are going to get rid of obamacare.
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every day we are keeping our promises. that includes our promises to our great, great veterans. who is the veteran here? getting better. getting really good. nobody has been able to do. i'm only here for less than 8 months. when they talk about obamacare it was years. when they talk about hillary clinton spent 8 years trying to get -- [crowd booing] >> 8 years trying to get healthcare. [crowd chanting "lock her up"]
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>> it's obvious we wouldn't state of arizona. do you agree? and we won it by a lot. i hear we are winning it by even more right now. if you think about it, clintons, they spent 8 years and they weren't able to get healthcare. other administrations weren't able to get it. obama what he did to get, including the guy, gruber, did you see gruber got fired yesterday because he he he defrauded somebody. something bad happened. check it out. gruber who lied about obamacare. who called everybody fools for believing it. obamacare is gone. it's a disaster, it's gone. premiums in other state are going up in numbers that are even higher than the state of arizona. understand companies are fleeing, and it's gone.
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i believe that the republicans and maybe we'll get a couple of senators who think they are going to lose their race on the democraticside. but we'll get it fixed. one vote. speak to your senator, please. speak to your senator. we are reforming the va to insure our veterans have the care they so richly deserve. including choice, choice, choice. hard in, if you have got to wait for 7 days and you are not feeling well, you go see a doctor and we pay for your doctor. and we got legislation approved that everybody said was impossible. it's called va accountability. if somebody treats our veterans badly, we can fire them.
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we say you are fired, get out of here. [cheers and applause] everybody said you couldn't get that passed. they have been trying to get that passed for 40 years. we have great legislation. have you ever heard the liars back there who say trump hasn't gotten any legislation. i think we have gotten more than anybody including harry truman who was number one. but they will tell you we got none. so we have va accountability so you can fire people who are treating our veterans badly or aren't doing their job. isn't that great? we also obtained historic increase in defense spending to prevent and deter conflict. we believe in peace through strength. we are building up our military like never before.
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thousands and thousands of brave americans have paid the ultimate price for our freedom. now it's up to us to preserve and protect their legacy. last night as you know i laid out my vision for an honorable and enduring outcome in a very tough place, a place where our country has failed, afghanistan. this is a place where terrorists are trained, where you have people that are not exactly united states fans. can i say that? and i will tell you that what we are going to do with our incredible military, they are going to make unbelievable sacrifices and they already made in some cases the ultimate sacrifice. but we are fighting for them. our war fighters deserve the
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tools they need and the trust they earned to fight and to win. fight and to win. and you see what going on in north korea. all of a sudden i don't know, who knows. but i can tell you what i said, that's not strong enough. some people said it was too strong. it's not strong enough. but kim jong-un -- i respect the fact that i believe he is starting to respect us. i respect that fact have much. respect that fact. and maybe, probably not, but maybe something positive can come about. they won't tell you that. but maybe something positive can come about. er american deserves a
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government that protects them, honors them, defends them, and fights for them. speaking of that, you have three congressmen in the audience, and your governor who met me at the plane and he's now inside. but he said, i want to spend my type outside on security. i said i think that's a great idea. but not that's people showed up so i don't think it should be much of a problem. but you have a hell of a governor, governor ducey. we have three congressmen, a friend of mine who has been so great to me. trend franks. where -- trent franks. where is he. get or here. congressman paul gosar and
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congressman andy biggs. thank you. thank you. congressmen. never let them go, folks. never let them go. don't ever lose them. thank you, fellas. so in washington we are taking power out of the hand of donors and special interests and putting that power back into the hands of the people that voted for us. okay? for us.
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the same failed voices in washington who oppose our movements are the same people who gave us one terrible trade deal after another, who gave us one foreign policy disaster after another, who sacrificed our sovereignty, our weelt, -- r wealth and our jobs. we don't need advice from the washington, d.c. swamp. we need right now to drain the swamp. that's what's happening, too, believe me. washington is full of people who are only looking out for themselves. but i don't come to washington for me. i have had a great life. i had great success. i enjoyed my life. most of people think i'm crazy to have done this.
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and i think they are right. but i enjoy it. i don't believe that any president -- i don't believe any president has accomplished as much as this president in the first 6 or 7 months. i really don't believe it. including, including a great supreme court justice, justice gorsuch. i came to washington for you. your dreams are my dreams. your hopes are my hopes. and your future is what i'm fighting for each and every day. it's so important. our agenda is the pro work agenda.
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we accomplished historic amounts in a short period of time. we signed more than 50 pieces of legislation. they said we signed none. we signed 50. appointed justice gorsuch. nominated 31 new federal judges with many more on the way. so important that we have aggressively canceled job-killing regulations. and we are unleashing job-creating american energy like we have never unleashed before. we ended the war on beautiful, clean coal, and it's just been announced a second brand-new coal mine where they are going to take out clean coal, meaning they are take out coal, they are
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going to clean it, is opening in the state of pennsylvania. the second one. and the state of west virginia which was way behind and lagging, was now in terms of gdp increase second last quarter to the state of texas. how about that. west virginia. and they have a great governor in west virginia. governor jim justice. month just quit the democrats and joined the republican party. in the proud tradition of america's great leaders, from george washington -- please don't take his statue down, please -- does anybody want
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george washington's statue? no. is that sad? is that sad? from lincoln to teddy roosevelt. i see they want to take teddy roosevelt down, too. they are trying to figure out why, they don't know. they are trying to take away our culture. they are trying to take away our history. and our weak leaders do it overnight. they have been there for 150 years. for 100 years. you go back to a university and it's gone. weak, weak people. we are going to protect american industry, we are going to protect the american worker. no longer will we allow other countries to close our factories, steal our jobs, and drain our wealth. we are building our future with
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american hands, american labor, american iron, aluminum and steel. we'll buy american and we'll hire american. i immediately withdrew the united states from the disastrous trans-pacific partnership. it would have been a disaster. and you know that one of the worst deals that anybody in history has ever entered into. we have begun normal renegotiation with mexico and canada on nafta. and i must be honest. and i have been talking about nafta for a long time. i'm sorry it's taken six months. but we have to give notice.
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after the notice is given you have to wait a long time. then you have to wait a long time. anyway, we started two days ago. personally i don't think we can make a deal because we have been so badly taken advantage of, they have made such great deals, in particular mexico. i don't think we can make a deal. i think we'll end up probably terminating nafta at some point. probably. but, i told you from the first day we'll renegotiate nafta or we'll terminate nafta. i personally don't think you can make a deal without a termination. but we'll see what happens. you are in good hands, i can tell you. we are unleashing american energy and i withdrew the united states from the job-killing paris climate accord.
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[cheers and applause] people have no idea how bad that was for this country. great for other countries. we were like the lap dog. great forther countries. our country was so behind. since i took the oath of office, we added far more than one million jobs in the private sector. unemployment is right now almost a 17-year low. wages are rising, the stock market is at its all-time high in history, and economic growth has surged to 2.6%. remember everybody said you won't bring it up to 1%. you won't bring it up to 1.2%. and we just started. the regulations we have gotten rid of. we'll have regulations, but it
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will be sensible regulations. those regulations are unleashing our economy. we have a gdp about two weeks ago 2.6%. remember i said we are going to try to hit 3%. we are already at 2.6%. maybe i'll have to increase my offer. so many of those people, the economic council, when it got a little heat with the lies from the media they said we'll take a pass. not all of them, but some of them did. but i rent once that didn't. but people are now calling me, people that have been like to we'll take a pass, don, can we get together for lunch. can we do it privately instead of through a council? they are calling and saying how about getting together
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privately. they like it better. why should they be own a council. that's the wait its, folks. to bring more jobs. we are committed to passing the first major tax reform in over 30 years. now we need the help of congress, please. okay? we need the help of congress. and we really could use some democrat help. we are giving you the biggest tax cut in the history of our country. the democrats are going to find a way to obstruct. if they do, remember they are stopping you from getting a massive tax cut. just remember that, okay? america's crushing business tax is a massive self-inflicted economic wound. we have one of the highest business tax rates anywhere in the world, pushing jobs and
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wealth out of our country. that's why we are going to lower the tax on american business to bring back those companies, bring them back to america, we want more products stamped with the letters, "made in the u.s.a.." we also want everyday americans to be able to keep more of their own money. so for the democratic senators, especially the ones where i won their states by 20 and 30 points, i hope you are going to come over to our side. because when you have 52 republicans, if you lose like two, that's the end. as good as something is, it's hard to get 51 out of 52. i hope some of the democrats who are going to lose their election will come over and give everybody a beautiful tax cut
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which will be great for the economy. it's time to pass a tax cut for the middle class families. we'll make america the best place in the world to hire, grow and start a business again. we want to lift our people from welfare to work, from dependence to independence. and from poverty to prosperity. we are going to do an infrastructure bill. we'll build gleaming new roads, bridges, highways, railways, waterways, all across our beautiful land. our greatest creations, our most of incredible building, our most of beautiful works of art are just waiting to be brought to life. american hands will build this future. american energy will power this future. we have become an energy exporter for the first time
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ever. just recently. and american workers will bring this future to life. we are the nation that dug out the panama canal. won two world wars. put a man on the moon, and defeated communism. we can do anything. we can build anything. and we can dream anything. it's time to remember what our brave soldiers never forgot. americans share one flag, one home, and one glorious destiny. we live according to the same law, raise our children by the same values, and we are all made
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by the same almighty god. [cheers and applause] as long as we remember these truths, as long as we have enough strength and courage in our souls, then there is no challenge too great, no task too large, no dream beyond our reach. we are americans. and the future belongs to us. the future belongs to all of you. this is our moment. this is our chance. this our opportunity to recapture our dynasty like never before. to rebuild our future. to deliver justice for every forgotten man, woman and child in america. freedom will prevail. our values will endure. our citizens will prosper.
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arizona will thrive. and our beloved nation will succeed like never ever before. so to americans young and old, near and far, in cities small and large, we say these words again tonight. we will make america strong again. we'll make america wealthy again. we'll make america proud again. we'll make america safe again. and we'll make america great again! thank you, arizona, god bless you. thank you, thank you. [♪]
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trish: ending on his signature line "make america great again." "we'll make america great again" with his signature song and signature line. the president speak in phoenix, arizona. wow, did he cover a lot of ground. everything from the border to the economy to what he said on tuesday and the division we now have in our country. he allude to a possible pardon for sheriff arpaio. and he talked a little about what's going on in arizona with the senate race. so there was no endorsement. joining me with reaction, we have adam johnson, evan siegfried, fox news contributor steve cortes and latino victory
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fund cristobal. >> if i were to give any criticism, i would say maybe shorten it a tad. but, listen, this is the president at his very best. i love it when it gets out of the swamp, when he gets out of the beltway. for the americans who have not prospered during the slow malaise. i love it when he speak directly from the heart to those people it's a pep rally of sorts. a pep rally we need in this country. we need to believe again.
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we have been divided by too long by slow growth. we need this message. i was heartened by what he did tonight. trish: that's who is at these rallies. he doesn't use the prompter. he uses it for some things. he just talks off the cuff and sometimes something just comes into his head. and it makes his staff a little nervous. but he did stay on message. did you hear anything tonight that would have got' him in trouble? >> absolutely not. what i take a great deal of heart in is the fact not only did he say we believe in one nation under god, thank you, president trump for saying that because yes we do, i also applaud the president for saying he explicitly condemns neo-nazis, white supremacists, and the kkk. he said it over and over.
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these aren't idle word. he also talks about jobs. he talked in real terms. i loved what i heard tonight, trish. trish: evan, you have been a little bit of a critic of this president throughout. what's your reaction to what you heard. a different tone than what we heard last night. but it was a different setting. >> for his base this is what he needed to do. it's the same thing for president trump because he does feed off that. but i come out with a question is how does this help get tax reform passed? if he can activate them to put pressure on congress. trish: when you are talking to thousands of people and giving the message of economic unity, doesn't that lead to tax reform? >> you can get them excited. but if you want them to help, you have to tell them to help.
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he signaled his willingness to shut down the united states government if he does not get funding for the wall. trish: maybe you need to play hardball on this. it seems like there has been up a distraction going on. but there has been up a distraction going on, certainly we are looking at it in the streets of phoenix. you have thousands of protesters. this comes on the heels of charlottesville. i think it's a dangerous and destructive thing for the left to do to try to manipulate a narrative to say everyone on the right is racist. you are hispanic yourself. you have been a trump supporter. as we move forward and try to get some of these policy thing achieved, are they trying to use this to stand in the way of his agenda? >> of course they are. the democratic party is in secular decline in this country. they lost the white house, and
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they don't control the congress. they lost almost 1,000 state legislature seats during obama tenure. what is their response? rather than a semblance of self-reflection or self-awareness, the response is we must be losing because of racists. as an hispanic and son of an immigrant i find that offensive. hispanic household, the wealth gap is widening. it's not narrowing. it widens throughout the obama presidency. we are not doing it right as it comes to the prosperity and empowerment of hispanic and minority household. donald trump instead of playing identity politic wants to produce growth for all americans of all colors. trish: the government should thereby to help those who can help themselves. there needs to be sort of a better programs in place to
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reward those that want to work. those that want to move forward, that want to take opportunity. >> and lower taxes, trish. trish: you are preaching to the choir on that one. cristobal. you are not a supporter of this president, and you don't like what he's doing. but you are also the son of immigrants. tell me your reaction to what you heard. >> i thought the speech was a total disaster. he was rambling. it was long. he lost me on sheriff joe arpaio. it's outrageous when we had a speech last night on afghanistan. he wraps his arms around sheriff joe arpaio. >> that was just one minute in a
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rambling long speech. the overwhelming message is saying we are one nation under god. when one american suffers, what he all suffer. this was about unity. how can you not agree with that: >> i don't. he tried to play the victim and rehash and re-read about the kkk. trish: they came there to see him and hear him and he needed to give his side of things. and he did it in his very approachable way. this is the candidate he was and the person they sent to the white house. >> i don't disagree with you. it was a campaign speech to the base. it was not designed to bring
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people together. it was the first speech for reelection. >> they must be jumping for joy because they can say see trump is a racist. we are on a slippery slope because of what happened tuesday with the charlottesville news conference. the former their man of your party howard dean is saying if you vote for a republican you are a racist, and republicans are the party of race i'm. that's an absolute fallacy. i would love to see democrats stand up and do that. >> it's clear not all republicans are not racist. but this is a president who started his campaign on the first day attacking latinos calling us rapists and he went on to attack other people of color and women. trish: i remember that speech also well. he said mexico is not sending their best people. if you look at the statistics, i
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was saying this earlier in the show. i was very sad to see them. i weren't through 200 pages of an i.c.e. report showing all the people they had to let go of because of sanctuary city and it showed what their crime was, in many cases very heinous crimes. i looked at each country because i don't want to think that we are seeing all these criminals come here and do bad things. but i thought to myself after seeing that report. the statistics, they are not on your side. >> let me be very clear. immigrants commit fewer crimes than native born citizens. if you look at sanctuary cities, the most of indepth report on sanctuary cities shows they are safer than non-sanctuary cities. trish: steve, you should weigh in on this. should we open our borders and say come on in?
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why not. >> here is what's important. trish: jeff flock is in the middle of these protests. it hooks like things are heating up. reporter: i can't see it yet. the speech over. people seem to be stampeding where, where. people are stampeding. i'm not sure why. i have not seen what is causing the crowd to stampede. sometimes one person sees something running and everybody takes off. gas? there appears to be tear gas or some kind of gas. let's go see what's what. there is apparently -- it appears to be a fire to me.
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let's look. see this? i don't know what that is. everything was very calm. no one was setting upon. there are cannisters of gas. trish: i can see it now in your video. reporter: holy shut. someone just set off fireworks. we talked earlier about people who came to this with an agenda. you can see over there. you be very careful. >> there is something about to go off. trish: oh, dear. reporter: right appears to be fireworks of some sort that folks have brought. this protest was largely -- it
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was completely non-violent. then all of a sudden they are leaving. >> they were walking away throwing all this shut at people. >> the police did that? >> yeah, yeah. reporter: why would the police do that? >> lori, come over here. i'm not sure if we can get a look at the cannister. it got obscured by smoke. they seem like smoke bombs. trish: how many people are there would you say in the crowd? it's hard to see. are there hundreds there? how many people were running? >> there may be 1,000 left.
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we got them in the eyes. this was largely a non-violent protest. reporter: it seems like tear gas to me. reporter: i'm feeling it in my eyes. we are good, we are good it was a small group of people who did whatever took place here. we were walking through this area. it was fine. there were just normal folks. as we pointed out earlier there were a lot of people in the crowd who said we don't want any violence. who tried to protest peacefully. did you see what started this? >> someone threw a water bought
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at them and they retaliated with tear gas. >> somebody threw a water bottle at the police and they started shooting gas. reporter: we are going to get out of here. that's tough to see. trish: it sounds like we are hearing from several witnesses they believe it's the police that put that tear gas out. reporter: that is what multiple people have told us. i was suspicious of that because it had been so non-violent. but if somebody threw something at the officers it's possible they said we can't have this get out of control. the way to not have it get out of control is set off tear gas. they looked like professional cannisters to me. lori, your eyes okay?
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thanks for holding the camera. trish: the cameraperson. reporter: it was going so well. give trish a look at how many people are left. there were maybe a thousand folks left at the end of the speech. and they were not doing anything crazy. they were simply chanting. i was going to show you before all hell broke loose. up on the bridge there is where the trump supporters, the people emerging from the rally. they are leaving. i wanted to make sure nobody was accosting them. they are totally separate. i didn't see any problem.
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trish: that's an important part of this. we looked at the protest in boston and what worked so well was making sure you kept the two groups apart. there are 3,000 police in phoenix working to do exactly that. the tear gas you just got in your eyes may have come from them. reporter: based on what people are saying and the way the cannisters looked, there is people saying the police shot them in the back. trish: always in these situations some of the people there tonight have an agenda, and they want to advance a story line that may not be accurate. so we remind you to be careful with the information at this stage. reporter: but that's the
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complicated part about this whole thing is that while on the right yeah you have some crazy white supremacist folks. but largely the people that support the president, people on the right are people that just believe what they believe. they are not all racist the same way in this crowd you have a few crazy people who want to throw things and disrupt. most of of the people are non-violent. they are here. trish: we apologize to those watching at home. most of people and this is what has become so concerning to me and to many others right now. when you start to label an entire group as the left has been trying to label trump supporters and republicans as racist or nazis, these are horrible terms to be using, and
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it's a huge character assassination that leads to things like we are seeing there tonight. what's going on? reporter: it appears some more gas has been set off. oh, yeah. holy jesus. the police -- that was police. concussion grenades and more gas. something may have happened over there to set that off. police have definitely decided their moving in with riot gear right now. that was a concussion grenade set off by police. i don't know what caused the police to do that. but they did. now they opened up the barricades preparing to charge on this crowd. i think there may be rubber bullets coming so we are going to get out of the way.
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trish, be very, very careful, jeff flock. reporter: lori just got hit with a rubber bullet. i don't know why this was necessary. maybe it was. i don't know what was done. obviously there will be an investigation. i don't know why this was necessary.
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>> the people we saw early whether mask, that we didn't see. >> we were peacefully walking. so we were walking -- we decided to move to where they were coming out. we had been there peacefully before. all of a sudden tear gas fired at us. from the police. there was absolutely no reason. peaceful, nobody was doing anything. i was there the whole time. i was at the front.
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there was a couple water bottles tossed. the police said nobody threw anymore water bottles. then i got hit with rubber bullets. reporter: there is no indication of why? >> i swear to you there was no reason to fire at us. we walking peacefully chanting our usual. and someone fired some tear gas. and then it just spiraled. people ran. nobody went toward them.
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we were literally chancing this is what democracy looks like when they fire. they are still fired and nobody is doing anything. nobody was violent. >> they drop the bomb right behind me. >> i appreciate it very much. trish: can i jump in and ask you a question? lori, your camera person was hit with one of the rubber bullets from the police and she is still shooting that video that we are watching right now of you? >> yes, she is.
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trish wants to know if you are a k.. >> hi trish i miss you. everything is going well here. can you tell? >> she was injured. trish: as i keep reminding you guys --. >> you heard from what i would consider reasonably credible witness on that one. i was suspicious at the outset but that was a credible witness and it appears to match everything we saw out here. the police certainly fired tear gas and congress -- concussion grenades and the bullets. there are bullets in the way down there. trish: the initial noise that you heard, was that a firecracker? without some kind of firework or do you think that may have been also rubber bullets?
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and maybe hard to tell. >> it was not provoked by anything that happened. the first stuff came from the police. again i don't know whether that's true or not but an investigation certainly will happen but you know this whole thing had been nonviolent from jump street here today. this has not been a violent protests. trish: there must have been something that provoked the police to do that. the number one priority is keeping that city safe right now. you have so many protesters on the streets, thousands of them on the street. i certainly hope everything is going to be calm tonight but given your experience it's obviously disappointing to see because we were hopeful that things would be better on all sides.
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>> yes, they weren't it was. i just don't know what went wrong and obviously somebody who is upset as this person was, people get upset now so yeah. trish: so they have, okay i see. >> let's go see what's what here trish: they are making it clear that they don't like donald trump and that's their right to do so. we have this freedom of in this country and that's one of the things that makes us great. you were there with them at the end. these are folks dressed in black covering their faces. if you are going to protest, show us who you are. >> we still have tear gas coming here. look at this. are you there? there still gasping. i don't know, who knows knows? maybe a protests maybe a trump
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supporter. maybe a trump supporter had been somehow threatened in some way and they felt they needed to clear this out but at this point was this tear gas fired by the officer's? you have a gas mask on. this guy has got a gas mask two. hopefully it's working better than the one i don't have. trish: was that a police officer just walked by with a gas mask? >> the first guy i talked to us a police officer, yes. he didn't answer my question. trish: i see. >> he's didn't confirm that but obviously they came armed with tear gas. trish: you know the mayor didn't want this rally to happen and he
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had asked the president not to be here tonight. jeff, do you think there may be an effort on behalf of local authorities to be overly aggressive in part because, and i hate to say this and i hate to even go there but you wonder if they want to see this kind of commotion because it once again feed the narrative that many on the left want to see sets. >> i'm not going to speculate on that but i would just say these days whatever happens i'm sure those on the right will say look what happened. it turned into a riot. these violent protesters which i don't think was the case and those on the other side will spin it the other way. we are so divided now. it's very difficult to sort this out. trish: do you think on behalf of
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authorities and assuming that's in fact what it is, certainly seems that way given the gas masks that the police are wearing but does it start to make the situation there were some the ground to my? we just saw a guy walking by you yelling really loud. does this create more a motion and more problems? >> i was prepared to. reporter: you. somebody threw a water bottle at the police. i was prepared to. reporter: you that it was calm and a nonviolent protest. the speech was over and all of that. there's the gas again. i can say this, the there is more gas coming. i hope that the police have a good reason and they can demonstrate the reason because people are very upset. you can imagine they didn't do anything bad in that happen.
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trish: i'm trying to talk a little bit as you walk because i'm trying to save your voice jeff because you have now been hit with tear gas it seems, three times. your camera person we are concerned about and she is still following you. she says she is okay. she's been hit by rubber ball at an what is you are looking at there? >> that is the hooters that has a mr.. people are coming over to get misted and tried to get the gas out of their eyes is what's happening. trish: jeff come keep cleansing your eyes and do what you need to do but we should point out that the police are tweeting out there in phoenix that they are getting this criminal activity under control so one might think that they are making arrests
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right now. >> if there was criminal activity they have a good reason for what they did they should probably make that clear because it's not apparent at the moment what that was. excuse me, i don't know what you are doing. let's move away. there is no propaganda, pal. please don't be violent here. you were going to hurt your cause more than help it by being here. as we said, this gets people angry trish. i have reported this as a peaceful protest and i've been reporting that all night and that's what we have been reporting, folks. that is what we have been reporting. that is what we have been saying. at this point we don't know. the police are going to have to
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come. i understand. >> i'm so sorry. the people are frustrated in their acting irrationally and that's not okay. that's not america. trish: this is the frustration. jeff you been on the ground and you've been reporting on how these protests have gone peacefully this evening only to be met with that tear gas and we don't know why they did that. the tear gas and rubber bullets. >> did you say that police tweeted they had criminal activity they were responding to trish: criminal activity, yes and they are addressing criminal activity. this is what the police said. the police are addressing criminal activity. it's a big city there. you can't be everywhere so we know that you didn't see any that there is something that caused that to be more -- it
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could be a long night and we want you to be safe jeff lock. thank you for the tremendous reporting and you make sure that you take care of yourself. we are going to be looking forward to talking more about all of this tomorrow. this is going to wrap it up for us this evening. actually i think we are going to stay put for a little bit longer. these are still pictures coming to us from phoenix. it looks as though that is the police. they have the gas masks on and as jeff said he did ask them, they didn't respond but we can tell you they are responding to criminal act to be in phoenix. adam johnson. >> president trump himself said when one american suppers we all suffer. that was the message that he delivered tonight and how
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upsetting we come outside and we don't know what happened that we see people suffering so for the message of unity to be obscured by one of violence is very upsetting to me. we don't know what caused it but that's upsetting because tonight was not supposed to be about violence. it was supposed to be about bringing people together, trish. trish: this is a difficult time for the country and it is not helpful when both sides or in this case the left is working so aggressively to drive a narrative that is divisive and this is a divisive narrative. if you are supporting a republican than you are somehow racist, that's not who our country is. we are not a nation of racists. there are bad people here and there but we as a whole are american. we stand together. we are for unity and economic opportunity and they need to be
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very cautious and very careful because the streets of phoenix are dealing with some real challenges tonight and we do not want that to continue. that's it for this special edition of the intelligence report. thank you so much and we'll see you tomorrow. this tiny stage. >> they're spectacular, down to the finest detail. >> this was the place where he poured all of his love. [ woman vocalizing ] >> so how did these guys inherit his life's work? >> i was a senior in high school, and i was looking for a job that i wouldn't hate. >> you feel like you might be sitting on a gold mine? >> must their show go on? >> it would be...over. >> it would be gone. everything would be dismantled and somewhere in a dumpster. >> or will the fat lady sing? [ operatic singing ] [ door creaks ] [ wind howls ] [ thunder rumbles ]
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[ bird caws ] >> i'm jamie colby, and today i'm in rolling meadows, illinois. it's a suburb of chicago. some weather, huh? i'm here to meet two brothers whose strange inheritance had some serious strings attached. >> my name is justin snyder. and in 2006, our friend and mentor bill fosser passed away, leaving my brother and me a sort of chicago institution -- his puppet opera. >> hi, justin. i'm jamie. >> jamie, nice to meet you. >> i'm told that you have something that i may never see again. >> here, follow me. >> i will. justin leads me behind the scenes of a most unusual opera house. >> all these boxes here contain costumes for various, different productions. >> wow! this is my kind of wardrobe. if only it came in my size.
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the costumes are so small because the players taking the stage aren't the supersized tenors and sopranos you expect to see at the opera. they're 16-inch puppets. the maestro behind this pint-size production, justin's boss, the late bill fosser. who was bill fosser? >> bill fosser taught me everything i know about puppetry. he had a unique ability to re-create full-scale environments, but in a miniature scale. he was one of my best friends. >> fosser, born in 1928, grows up in a working-class neighborhood on chicago's west side. >> he described himself as a sickly child. he was stuck at home a lot and would experiment with household materials to try to kind of create his own puppets. >> in 1935, when bill is 7, his aunt takes him to his first opera, verdi's "il trovatore." he's enchanted by it all -- the
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music, the costumes, and the stage design. >> he fell in love with the art form of opera, but he was always interested in -- in puppets and then, eventually, just combined the two. >> the boy builds a mini opera house with a velvet curtain and assembles his company of players. >> he told us that he used to offer performances to kids in the neighborhood for like a penny. >> turns out, puppet opera is an actual thing in those days. bill sees an article in the paper about a lavish restaurant in chicago that's adding a puppet opera to its bill of fare. the place is called kungsholm. >> kungsholm was a swedish smorgasbord and a puppet theater all in one. >> steve golden was six when he saw his first show at the kungsholm. that led to a lifelong career as a professional puppeteer, who also handles purchases and acquisitions for the
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northwest puppet center in seattle. so, steve's childhood experience at the kungsholm left an impression. >> you came to the restaurant and you were given a complementary ticket to the puppet miniature grand opera. >> was it an institution in chicago? >> oh, was it ever? to go there was a highlight of a day. >> how fabulous. opera stars and socialites flocked to see kungsholm puppets perform arias from operas such as "madame butterfly" or "the barber of seville." so, 14-year-old bill fosser takes his best handmade puppet and talks his way into a summer job at the theater. soon, he, too, is hooked for life. he becomes an expert puppetmaker and patents a design for a puppet with more natural body movements than the ones used at the kungsholm. >> this is one of the original kungsholm puppets.
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the operator would be underneath and there's a series of rods and strings. >> justin's brother, shayne snyder, is the other heir in our story. >> these two here are made by bill fosser and these were actually two of bill's favorite puppets. this is canio from "pagliacci", and this is lakmè from the opera "lakmè." >> so, it was bill who advanced this technique of the rings and the rods? >> correct. he made many improvements to the design, like giving them a little bit of a joint here and then the walking. >> can you make them walk? >> mm-hmm. >> unbelievable. >> and you can get a lot of range of movement and motions just from lifting and turning the rod. >> ingenious, but it's tough to make a buck in puppets. so, bill only works off and on at the kungsholm, though he pays the bills with another skill he perfects there. he's a sought-after stage designer at full-scale chicago theaters. >> he was indeed a genius.
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he had the eye. >> actor tony mockus performed on some of bill's sets in the early days. >> every now and then, you're lucky enough to work with people who have that kind of an ability and bill has that ability. >> eventually, the kungsholm falls into disrepair, closes, and re-opens as a steakhouse with no puppets. >> bill opens his own puppet theater. he's never married, has no kids, so it's his baby. [ gasps ] oh, my! he christens it "opera in focus." >> he had the idea of, like, a camera lens in mind, so it's like looking through the lens of camera at this weird, miniature world. >> bill built this? >> he built all of this, yes, indeed. [ "the pearl fishers" plays ]
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bill sort of single-handedly kept the art form alive. >> he didn't have a patron. i mean, if he were in europe, he would have been flooded with cash. >> he needs it. bill's first performances barely break even. luckily, around the same time, hollywood comes calling. >> word got around in california that if you're going to chicago, you get ahold of fosser. >> he designs the sets for "home alone" and "curly sue" and a couple of best picture winners, too. >> "the sting," "ordinary people." >> great credits, but it all was just a way to fund his miniature opera. >> in bill's heart, puppets were number one. it's what he lived for. >> in 1993, at 65, bill takes his dream retirement. he leaves the film biz and moves his puppet opera to the chicago suburb of rolling meadows.
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curtains rise and fall, and after a few more years, bill realizes he needs more help and, though he doesn't say so at the time, an heir or two. he places a want ad in the newspaper. it's answered by 18-year-old justin snyder. >> when i told him that i wanted to be a puppeteer, he kind of chuckled and he said, "well, if you're gonna work here, you're gonna have to be an all-purpose evil henchman." >> what exactly does that mean? [ vocalizes ] >> natural puppeteer. >> i'll find out in act two, right after intermission. ♪ >> but first, our "strange inheritance" quiz question. the answer after the break. this lovely lady has a typical airline credit card.
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>> so, which "star wars" character did jim henson help create? it's "b," yoda, who debuted in the 1980 film "the empire strikes back." [ operatic singing ] >> former movie set designer bill fosser is spending his retirement just as he wants -- staging scenes from classic operas with 16-inch puppets
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for captivated audiences in the chicago suburbs. >> boy, he knew opera backwards and forwards. he knew when the tenor was going to take a breath... when the soprano would hit her high c's. you were just swept away. >> but bill's in his 70s -- the old ticker's not what it used to be, and he has no family to take over his labor of love. so, in the summer of 2000, he advertises for an apprentice. >> i was a senior in high school, and i was looking for a job that i wouldn't hate. >> justin's brother, shayne, is intrigued, too. they both interview with fosser. >> when i told him that i wanted to be a puppeteer, he kind of chuckled and he said, "well, if you're gonna work here, you're gonna have to be an all-purpose evil henchman." >> oh, my.
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>> so, right off the bat, it was like a crash-course. >> bill teaches them all he knows -- how to design and mold puppets out of polyester resin, how to operate the sound, special effects, and everything else it takes to run one of the most technically sophisticated puppet shows in the world. you think i could learn how to be a puppeteer? >> we'll have you manipulating the puppets like a pro. >> here under the stage, the chairs have been shaved down until the seats rest inches from the floor. all right, guys, what am i doing here? >> all right, so here's your shot at the big time. shayne's gonna demonstrate here on his puppet. so, basically your left hand is gonna control the central mechanism of the puppets, which is front and back, and then there you go, perfect. >> okay. >> all right, and then this little lever here is the side-to-side motion of the head. >> she's turning her head. wow. >> if you twist this wheel, you'll see that her legs will start to walk. >> okay. >> and -- there you go. >> there she goes. >> then you can control the direction of the arm by how you
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twist it, so i'm gonna hand that one to you. >> okay. >> and that's how you control the arm movements. >> [ vocalizes ] it is very complicated. it's a lot of different movements at the same time. >> you're a natural puppeteer. >> natural puppeteer. >> justin and shayne become bill fosser's natural puppeteers. they're hooked. >> he was like a hero to me. >> it was something that i aspired to be like. >> they skip college, remain under bill's wings, and grow into a much bigger role in the old man's life. you feel like you might have been his surrogate sons? >> definitely, and he told us that all the time, that he looked at us like we were the children that he never had. >> and the heirs he dearly wants to carry on his work. >> he just asked, "what would you think about the idea of continuing this after i'm gone?" and i was just like, "sure, you know."
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>> that casual offer and acceptance put bill fosser's mind at ease. for five more years, he throws his heart into this labor of love... until it finally gives out. bill fosser exits life's stage at age 77. what was the impact of losing him? >> it was really hard. as good of a job as he did in preparing us for taking over the theater, you don't really know how unequipped you are until you're thrown into that position. >> the puppets, the stage, the costumes, the institution -- their strange inheritance turns out to be pretty valuable, too. looks to me like bill might have invested a lot of his money in this. >> for sure. >> do you know how much? >> bill told me that he had invested over a million dollars into it. it's actually -- >> holy smokes! >> yeah. >> back in the '80s, the puppets were insured by lloyd's of london for $6,000 each. >> how many were there? >> back then, i believe bill had 32 "opera in focus" puppets. >> that's significant.
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>> yes. >> 192k significant. and steve golden, of the northwest puppet center, says they would go for a lot more now. at one point, bill had these appraised at about $6,000 each. >> about $6,000. >> do you think that these have held their value today? >> i would say it certainly has held its value because if you just look at every part of the makeup of it, it's worth every penny that's in there. depending on which collector finds out about it, you could possibly get $10,000 for it. >> you're trying to maintain what is a chicago institution, but you feel like you might be sitting on a gold mine? ready for one more plot twist to bill fosser's libretto? it's his final wish for the puppet opera... what did he tell you? >> ...after the break. >> here's another quiz question for you. fantastic mr. fox?
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>> so... it's "c," the evil other mother from the 2009 movie "coraline." >> in 2006, chicago puppeteer bill fosser dies and leaves his puppet opera to his two pupils, shayne and justin snyder. the brothers want to keep it alive. they even hire their own apprentices. meanwhile, local reporters aren't helping. they keep reporting it's dead.
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>> we had to struggle with the media referring to the puppet opera in past tense. all the articles that came out would say like, "'opera in focus' was a puppet theater." >> attendance at their tiny suburban theater hits an all-time low. then, in 2011, a record rainfall floods the theater. justin's sure it's curtains. >> that was probably the end. >> but you had insurance? no insurance? >> no insurance. we had looked into insuring them, but the problem is, the monthly insurance costs were so high that it was unaffordable to us. >> luckily, the brothers had the forethought to stow their uninsured puppets high enough, and they stay dry. but the rest of the place is a mess. >> when the rains finally stopped, they brought in an industrial mold specialist who was basically like, "yeah, we have to tear this place apart." >> no. wait, it gets worse. turns out, before he died, bill fosser made a highly
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unusual request to his heirs. what did he tell you? >> well, originally, what he had said is that if the puppet theater were ever to close down, he wanted us to destroy everything. >> destroy, like, "gone"? this? >> everything, yeah. >> why? >> he viewed it as the puppets are instruments, kind of like a violin being stuck in a display case somewhere and not performing its purpose. he found that idea unbearable. >> it would be...over. >> it would be dismantled and somewhere in a dumpster. >> will they need to do that? >> how much do you make doing this? >> showtime! >> that's next. what's your "strange inheritance" story? we'd love to tell it. send me an e-mail or go to our website -- my "business" was going nowhere... so i built this kickin' new website with godaddy.
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>> here's where we left justin and shayne snyder, the heirs in this story. a flood in chicago closes "opera in focus," which the brothers inherited from master puppeteer bill fosser. >> we were worried that we might not be able to come back from that just 'cause of the cost involved of rebuilding it all. >> they don't have insurance, but the building does. the landlord agrees the show must go on and pays for the renovation of their 65-seat theater. >> we rebuilt it all from scratch. that was definitely a scary moment. >> but doesn't end their worries. the hiatus further depresses their bottom line. how much do you make doing this? >> we've had productions that have brought in $8,000, maybe, but then we have really poor productions that have maybe brought in $400. >> you must be a pretty wealthy guy to be able to keep this up. >> unfortunately, um, none of us are wealthy. >> are you even breaking even here? >> it's definitely not something you're gonna become a millionaire doing.
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>> that apprentice ad they answered years ago led to a rewarding vocation, not a well-paying one. do you have another job? >> i carve stone for a living. my brother works at a toy factory. >> do you see yourself being able to continue this financially? >> as long as there are people out here in the audience, we'll keep doing it. >> we welcome you, our guests of all ages, to this performance of william b. fosser's puppet production of "opera in focus." >> showtime! [ applause ] >> as the lights dim and their newest production, puccini's "turandot," begins, it strikes me that i'm not listening just to opera. it's the call of a siren that proved irresistible to our two young heirs, as it was to bill fosser before them. [ operatic singing ] let me ask you this, steve. do you think that bill left these fine, young men, who were as devoted to him as he was to
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them, an inheritance that's a burden or a benefit? >> burdens yield benefits. >> puppeteer steve golden, you'll recall, was seduced by these same sirens. he believes, somewhere, bill fosser is shouting "encore!" >> i think bill would be as pleased as punch that this is happening. >> and no doubt grateful to the two young men he named as his heirs all those years ago. but i wonder about that request bill made, that they should destroy all these beautiful puppets if the opera ever closed. is that a request they could ever honor? the brothers vow, succeed or fail, it will never happen. >> i feel like it's a priceless art form. we could never actually destroy anything here. i think bill knew that these puppets to us, again, just like to him, they're like family. [ singing continues ]
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[ applause ] >> bill fosser might not be with them, but justin and shayne want to make sure the art of puppet opera lives on. so, every year, in honor of the man they grew to love like a father, they perform bill's favorite aria, "cielo e mar," or, "sky and sea" from la gioconda. [ operatic singing ] the fact that bill's puppet opera is still up and running, more than 60 years after he started it, that would be music to his ears. i'm jamie colby. thanks so much for watching
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"strange inheritance." and remember -- you can't take it with you. [ singing continues ] >> a regular old dad... >> all he said was, "who's gonna buy something from bill wagner?" >> turned art scene heavyweight. >> he went from very clean-cut to start wearing brighter-colored shirts, and then his hair grew long. >> how important a name is he? >> there are no comparables. >> he leaves behind a puzzle. >> oh, the sun is shining. or it's an egg. are you sure these go together? >> it's always a mystery. >> this is all your dad's? >> it's a very small portion of the art that he produced. >> how do you handle an 8-ton inheritance? >> every single day, i've thought, "what am i going to do with it?" [ door creaks ] [ wind howls ] [ thunder rumbles ] [ bird caws ] ♪
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>> i'm jamie colby, and today, i'm driving in the san francisco bay area in benicia. i'm here to meet two brothers who wrote to me, saying they've inherited a pretty hefty haul. my mission -- to assess the gravity of their situation. >> my name is ron wagner. my father was bill wagner, one of the most prolific artists of his day. my brother and i realize that his art should never be judged by the pound, but the situation does weigh on us. >> i meet ron at his father's house here in benicia. hi, ron. i'm jamie. >> hi, jamie. it's nice to meet you. >> it's clear from the front porch that his dad was a creative and colorful guy. >> my dad painted every one of these tiles individually by hand. and there's lots more inside. >> yes, i'm coming inside. >> yes. >> suddenly, i'm surrounded by this strange inheritance. ron, the door was just a tease.
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every room is covered in painted tiles. look at this! incredible! and that's just the beginning. his father's art studio is jam packed with thousands more. this is all your dad's? >> this is just a little bit, actually. he was very prolific. >> these are very beautiful. it looks like each one does tell a story. >> they do. >> stories about the life of bill wagner, who was born in 1923 in san francisco. his own murals tell his tale. you think he was born an artist? >> i think his artistry came from being whisked off to central america by a cantankerous father who had gold fever. >> his father never finds that gold, but the colorful misadventures will have a big impact on young bill's imagination. the family returns to california in 1934 to start again from scratch. as a teenager, bill dreams
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of attending art school, but world war ii intervenes. he enlists in the army. d-day, june 6, 1944. >> he's in a boat. the conditions are horrible. the next thing he has to do is get off that boat and jump on a beach. >> not just any beach, normandy. >> normandy. he walked onto the beach and was immediately hit by a bomb. >> how close to death was he? >> very close. he was given the last rites three times. he remembered hearing the medics tell him that he wasn't going to make it. >> he's shipped back to a veterans' hospital in california. his recovery, slow and painful. >> he lost a kidney. he was almost paralyzed in one leg. >> he was flat on his back, dealing with pain, dealing with the medication. >> to cope with the trauma, bill turns to his passion. >> when he was in the hospital, he started sketching and drawing full-time. >> he also finds love
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of another kind. >> that's where he met my mom, who used to come and tell him stories and read to him. >> the two are married in 1945, and start a family. bill finally gets around to taking those art classes and soon deploys his talents in the new medium of television. >> he was in charge of all of the costumes, all of the lighting, all of the set construction, going to work every day in a suit and tie, doing art, but still playing the company role. >> in the late 1970s, when bill is in his mid-50s, he quits his job, gets divorced and decides to become a full-time artist. he also changes his name to something more exotic. his longtime friend toni andrews tells me more. >> all he said was, "who's gonna buy something from bill wagner?" guillermo is bill in spanish. granizo is his mother's maiden name. and he says, "i'd buy something from from guillermo granizo,
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but bill wagner, i don't know." >> how did his look change? >> he went from very clean-cut to start wearing brighter-colored shirts, and then his hair grew long. >> we used to call him the hippie. here i was with a suit and tie on, going to work, and he was going with a paintbrush to the canvas. >> make that paintbrush to terra cotta. inspired by mexican artists such as diego rivera, granizo devotes himself to painting ceramic tiles, an ancient art form. he comes up with his own techniques and secret recipes for his glazes. >> in some ways, this is liquid glass. and you can see that these glazes are very similar in color, so you really don't know what they're gonna turn out to be until you fire them. >> you're saying that, once in the kiln, can turn out and be as bright and beautiful as these? >> absolutely. they go from grays to bright colors. >> how did granizo know what color he was painting with? it's not with his eyes,
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but his fingertips. >> got to the point where he could tell the color by just putting his hand in the glazes just by the thickness. so he'd say, "oh, these are greens. these are reds." and now we're gonna start laying in color by just squeezing this syringe. do you want to try it? >> i do want to try it, but, you know, when i used to color, i could never stay in the lines. this definitely takes time and patience, but after seeing the tile run through the kiln at 2,500 degrees, it's all worth it. wow! look how colorful it is! >> the colors have now been heated up, and they bring the full color to it. >> absolutely beautiful. >> and the process is his. it took him years and years to develop the steps. >> by the early '80s, the great granizo is about to truly arrive on the art scene, ready to make his mark. how important a name is he in ceramic art? >> in my way of thinking, there are no comparables. >> that's next.
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♪ >> so reginald kenneth dwight is which performer's real name? it's a, elton john. for the record, jamie foxx's real name
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is eric bishop, and vin diesel's is mark vincent. ♪ >> in the late 1970s, bill wagner quits his 9-to-5, changes his name to guillermo granizo, and becomes a full-time artist. did he live and breathe art? >> yes, 100 percent. >> it was serious to him. he had to paint every single day. ♪ >> he would be in the studio from morning to night, and the whole basement was filled with his artwork. he was just prolific. >> what's so special about this art? >> the man first, the colors second. >> joe taylor is the founder of an organization for lovers of ceramic art, the tile heritage foundation. >> no doubt he was inspired by great artists like picasso, but everything that he created was totally original. >> soon enough, the emerging artist is receiving
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high-profile commissions. by the early '80s, his murals are on display throughout california in napa, monterey, benicia and beyond. >> he always would make six paintings at once. >> incredibly, granizo never uses a sketch while painting his tiles or a blueprint when putting together his murals, many comprised of hundreds upon hundreds of tiles. >> and that, to me, is really one of the miracles of his artwork, the fact that he could conceive of what that whole was going to look like in his head. >> it's enough to make my head spin. >> we're going to try to assemble a pile of tiles that we really don't know if it was a painting, a portrait. want to help? >> i do want to help. well, that looks like a shoulder. oh, the sun is shining, or it's an egg. can't tell.
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okay. don't help. >> okay. >> no, your head doesn't go on your elbow. are you sure these go together? >> it's always a mystery. >> could this be upside down? the man has no head. >> we need a head. >> oh, my! >> and it looks like we're gonna be looking for more tiles. >> now imagine you're in a cherry picker, assembling a mural about the size of a basketball court like this one in los angeles, 24 feet tall and 96 feet long. granizo creates it for the 1984 olympics. at the time, it's the largest tile mural in the world by a single artist. but square footage isn't the only thing that makes it so ambitious. >> what he did was incorporate every single sport in the world that he could on that mural. >> granizo hand-paints more than 2,200 tiles in just 10 weeks. >> and he did it by barely sleeping. he had such a passion
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for doing this mural. he did it day and night. >> he's paid $96,000 for his time and materials. did every penny that would come in go out in supplies? >> yeah. but, you know, that's an artist. it's not for the money. it's for the love. >> soon, granizo's murals are on display around the world -- alaska, japan, spain, and everywhere in between. >> he would smile because he says, "i'm in 40 countries now." >> in 1993, at the age of 70, granizo is diagnosed with lymphoma. >> all he said was, "i've got some drawing to do, and i will beat this because i have no intention of dying." >> he remains defiant, even as his cancer spreads. >> dad, just before he passed, supplied himself with 12 years' worth of supplies. there are hundreds of gallon-buckets of glaze. he just never saw his death coming. >> it comes as granizo finishes
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his final commission, a group of murals for the city of pleasanton, california. >> as we were installing that, he was sitting in a chair off to the side, literally dying. he only had a few weeks left to live. >> but when bill wagner passes away in november 1995 at age 72, he leaves behind much more than guillermo granizo's legacy of public art. there's also a massive body of private works. >> he has thousands of pieces. this is just a fraction of it. >> you weren't kidding. there's more. >> oh, yeah. >> along with a final request for his sons. fulfilling it will be a heavy lift. that's next. >> here's another quiz question for you. what debuted as an olympic sport in the 1984 summer games in los angeles? wind surfing, softball or beach volleyball? the answer when we return.
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♪ >> so what debuted as an olympic sport in the 1984 summer games? it's a, wind surfing. softball and beach volleyball arrived in 1996. ♪ >> master tile artist guillermo granizo created thousands of pieces each year. his art is still on display around the globe. after his death in 1995, his sons, ron and bob, inherit their father's vast store of private works. and there's a lot of it! >> this is just a fraction of it. there's some more in here, too.
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>> you weren't kidding. there's more. check out these portraits. there are hundreds of them -- a man caught in the rain, a lonely smoker, and creatures of the night. >> you never know what you're gonna find. >> then there's that set of autobiographical murals. it starts with his childhood when he was traveling through mexico and guatemala. >> this one depicts a dream granizo had as a child. that's him riding a bike across the ocean with robinson crusoe showing him the way. and here's one of him on utah beach on d-day. >> barely made it alive and probably was why he did all this painting all of his life. >> there are 120 of them in all. there's even one that features ron and bob as kids. >> and then, finally, this is the culmination of his decision to be a creative person. >> it would have been a shame if he didn't pursue this, wouldn't it? >> absolutely. >> the brothers find stack
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after stack, box after box, of tiles. some pieces are stand-alone, others, parts of unassembled murals. can you describe the enormity, size-wise, of this inheritance? >> the weight of it all is about 15,000 pounds. >> or nearly 8 tons of artwork. [ elephant trumpets ] do you ever wish there was a little less to inherit? >> the metaphor was, "talk about inheriting some heavy stuff." >> heavy stuff that comes with a hefty price tag. >> i had it appraised 21 years ago, and it was worth about $300,000 at the time. >> cha-ching, assuming the brothers are willing to sell off their dad's work in pieces, but that's an issue. did he tell you what he wanted you to do with all the ceramic tile art? >> one of the things that was always a concern was he never wanted the collections to be broken up. >> not knowing what to do, ron and bob do nothing.
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painted tiles collect dust for the next 21 years. >> but every single day of those 21 years, i thought, "what am i gonna do with it?" >> one of the reasons why i delayed was because i just didn't want to be on the premises. it was sad. >> after ron retires in 2016, the brothers decide it's finally time to deal with the artwork. >> dad would never want these things to be in storage. the big deal is making sure his work endures, is shown, is appreciated. >> and they realize the only way to do that -- split up the tiles and get them into the hands of art lovers. but first, the brothers have to get it all out of dad's house. and with the murals weighing as much as 75 pounds each, that's a heavy burden. excuse me. i got this. come on. you can't lift these. is it bolted to the floor? let's call in the reinforcements. >> you go have a cup of coffee. i'll take care of the rest. >> no problem.
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i'll just let the guys do the lifting. >> twenty-one years' worth of dirt and dust here. okay. there's three. >> only 65 more to go! [ chuckles ] >> yeah. i have to tell you, these are solid. they're not going anywhere. >> with the tiles loaded up and headed to ron's home, the brothers are ready to sell off their strange inheritance to the highest bidders. if only it were that simple. >> there is a big risk when you put artwork out on the market, and you don't know what you're doing. >> that's next. what's your "strange inheritance" story? we'd love to tell it! send me an e-mail or go to our website, it's time for the biggest sale of the year with the new sleep number 360 smart bed. it senses and automatically adjusts on both sides. the new 360 smart bed is part of our biggest sale of the year where all beds are on sale. and right now save 50% on the labor day limited edition bed, plus free home delivery. ends saturday!
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his sons, ron and bob, are trying to sell the thousands of painted tiles they inherited from their dad. what makes you think there's a market for his unique style of ceramic tile art? >> we're trying to find out what the market is. neither one of us have sold art before. >> there is a big risk when you put artwork out on the market, and you don't know what you're doing. >> makayla van swoll is a fine art adviser who's helping ron and bob with their strange inheritance. >> you can burn an artwork, and you can definitely put your values at risk. >> granizo's private artwork was appraised for $300,000 20 years ago. but makayla tells the brothers that means little today. >> an appraisal is never fixed. it's just like the stock market. something could happen tomorrow, and poof, all of a sudden, it'll be highly valuable or not at all. it really depends on how the heirs decide to develop his estate. >> she urges ron and bob
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to get their dad's name and artwork back into the public conversation. >> it will help them to reestablish a presence in the san francisco bay area, develop a market for the artist's work that hopefully will grow. >> the heirs begin to display his murals across the bay area, including at the benicia historical museum. >> they said they were going do an entire art gallery based around dad's work. >> they also make a deal for a book featuring granizo's private works. >> so the book seems to be the only way that it will be held as a collection forever. >> and they donate a favorite self-portrait of their dad to the city of pleasanton to be put on permanent display in the same park as their father's final commission. the mural is unveiled at a ceremony attended by city officials and friends of granizo. ♪ [ applause ]
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>> this, to me, has been his memorial. so we're very proud to donate this. >> when he could not make his dedication 21 years ago, he sent ron and i to tell you, in his place, thank you. he would love it if we could get more of it out there for people to enjoy. >> and remember that dozen years' worth of supplies he ordered right before his death? they're not going to waste. >> there has never been a loss for people calling for his work, so with maybe 5,000 square feet of tile ready to be painted on, the kilns, all the glazes, we're gonna reopen the granizo studio and see what we can do. >> that's right. bob, an artist himself, is replicating his father's style and creating some new granizo-inspired tiles. >> how does it feel to be following dad's footsteps? >> i was apprehensive at first. really didn't want to walk back into the studio after years of missing him. it feels good now, feels real good.
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>> it's one more step to ensure their father's legacy won't be forgotten. how does it make you feel when you know your father has art that's everlasting, really? >> oh, it's fabulous. he used to say, "it took 2,500 degrees to make this tile. at the end of the world, it may not be that hot. my art will be still standing." >> after completing this mural that depicts his near fatal injuries sustained on utah beach, granizo wrote, "suppose that there is heaven. would i go there since i give beauty to the world? yes. i would go to heaven, where an angel would bring me my tiles. a second would hand me my tools. another would mix buckets of glaze, and still another would rush the tiles to hell, where they would be fired." here's hoping the great artist is still busy painting tiles and working the kiln. i'm jamie colby. thanks so much for watching
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