arthur, though that is my hometown. this is truly a devastating series of incidents and a storm the likes of which i have never seen before in my life and i was born and raised down here in hurricane country. but in the midst of the devastation there are incredible stories of goodness. we'll be visiting shelters and emergency operations for the next several days and we'll be surveying the damage as the watters recede. i'm pleased to announce the sun is shining and it's the first time we have seen the sun in a long time. kennedy: we are seeing the pictures of entire cities and neighborhoods under water. is there anyone unaccounted for? >> i don't have any names. but they are asking for
volunteers. there are some folks still stranded. a lot of folks in this district are hurting. my staff is well, scattered around this 9-county district. some of whom are flood out of their own homes. we have been working around the clock, especially on the federal level. every means at our disposal to get our reinforcements in here to help with the recovery. the vice president called me on the telephone just a couple hours ago. we had a long conversation about a supplemental bill that will be helping funds the aid and make up some of the difference in flood insurance. kennedy: i want to ask about the
aid package from congress. some of your colleagues in the senate have talked about having a number of bills instead one he normous aid bill. do you like that plan? and how can you keep it free of pork? >> that's going to be our job. we can't be just have pork barrel stuff in there. this has to be real aid, real benefit to the hurting people of texas. and not only did i have a conversation with the vice president today. but also with senator cruz. he and i spoke this morning. yesterday i was on the phone with our leadership in the house as well as the office of bun the management mick mulvaney. and we are talking about a couple of bills rather than one giant package. kennedy: that might be an effective way to get the money
where it needs to go, free from pork. louisiana has been down this road before. what lessons did officials learn from katrina that are helping them today? lieutenant governor, what are you seeing in our state so far? >> we are preparing for the toledo bend area, we are expecting flooding in those areas as the wind has kept the water up those rivers. we are expecting some additional flooding in that area. we should be able to handle it and get those people out of there. kennedy: a lot of your residents have gone over to texas with their boats, particularly the cajun navy to help in the rescue efforts. are you asking texas to help you out in kind? >> no, they have their hands full.
we have national guard, wildlife and fishery, the cajun navy and state police assisting across the border in texas, especially to the areas that were hit last. brownsville, port arthur, those are the areas that are difficult. we can get there easily and the governor's dispatch there as well. unfortunately we get a lot of practice since katrina, and the massive flooding. so we are eager to help our neighbors, but also make sure we take care of our residents. >> what are you doing from katrina. what have you learned in louisiana that you are putting into place? >> we preposition equipment all over. and we make sure we let the residents know up front, you
could be without power and water and stranded in your home for many days if you don't get out. even in cases where we don't do mandatory evacuations. and the people of louisiana are well prepared because they have been through it before. kennedy: do you think they are bert at evacuating now? >> absolutely. and they all have a game plan ahead of time. if they can't afford to get a hotel, they have a relative or friend who welcomes them during hurricane season when you see a problem. the problem with hurricanes is you don't know where it's going to go and where the rainfall will sit or for how long. kennedy: did texas and some of those counties and cities botch the evacuation order? should they have done it sooner? >> i don't want to second guess. it's hard to lay out up front what's going to happen when you
don't know where the rain clouds are going to fit. you know there will be a lot of rain. but you don't know where it's going to dump and how long. it's difficult as the mayor said to evacuate all the areas that were flood would have been a massive evacuation and would have had to have been called many days before this flood. kennedy: in new york city the entire city was shuttle down for a storm that caused a couple inches of rain. >> what you can do is tell people this is the worst it can be. you can be in your home for five days without water or power. if you are not ready to handle that, you can look for someplace else to go out of the wrath of the storm. but not call a mandatory
evacuation. with texas, this is a massive thing nobody saw coming. kennedy: one of the nation's most of popular preachers joel osteen doing major damage control over his response to flooding. the church claims city official never asked them to open their doors. then as the bad p.r. begins. os teen claimed the church had always been open to flood victims. critics called him a cold-hearted hypocrite. but does he deserve all the
backlash? ned ryun is here and from the tom shi louvre radio show. author of the book "mean dads for a better america." joel osteen, do you think the coverage has been unfair? >> not only has it been unfair. this is the very defend definitf fake news. your read was false. the church -- you are all wrong. i have been covering this. i'm obsessed with this story. the church was never closed. kennedy: it wasn't open to evacuees. he talked to dagen mcdowell yesterday.
>> everything you are saying is wrong. >> i didn't know jesus said you can only help the needy if you are asked. >> what's the story? kennedy: what about the mosques and churches and temples. >> his church was flood. kennedy: it was bone dry. >> kennedy, you are wrong. kennedy: eventually they opened the doors. the backtrack story was essentially well the church leaders needed a little more time to get things organized. but that's not the same as being open. kennedy: it wasn't open. [all talking at once]
kennedy: it makes $77 million a year. when you have people who lost everything and you pray on them. faith and money breed corruption. >> it should be instinct to help those in need. you open your doors to a 17,000 seating congregation. are you telling me you can't find space to help them? >> social media convinced kennedy -- >> you don't want to see your pastor on a yacht when your city is flood. kennedy: i appreciate your concern but here you are contrary to the truth. the media criticized his response to hurricane harvey saying he hasn't shown enough
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survey the damage and comfort the victims. the president's visit caused many in the media to howl that he wasn't showing empathy. the media has created an expectation by obsessing over optics instead of real issues affecting the lives of those affected by the storm. ben shapiro, welcome back. let's talk about the president. before he left for texas, i said on this very showroom, he's damnd if he does, damned if he doesn't. if he doesn't go down he's in a heartless bubble and if he does web's an opportunist. >> absolutely right.
i like the alvin coolidge of the presidency. but everyone expects the president to be a royal figure where he descend from on high and mingles with the commoners. when the media said if he didn't go to texas, we be like george w. bush. he shows up, and trump is trump. he talks about crowd size and talks about how many people showed up and the media go nuts over that and about melania and her shoes and her hat. the media is trying to distract from the fact that trump is doing a pretty good job here. the amount of focus on what the federal government does during these situations is slightly overblown considering the vast majority of the resources on the
ground are state and local, not federal. but why didn't he stop the hurricane? why doesn't he have that magic power. kennedy: climate change caused hurricane harvey therefore it's the president's fault. but let's go back to empathy. you point out something that i think is really smart and necessary to discuss. that is the role of empathy in law making and relief giving. how important is empathy here. >> it's not important at all. empathy is counter productive when it comes to law making. if you are a surgeon and someone brings their kid in by surgery, you are not allowed by law to perform surgery on your own child because you are empathetic. the idea that you have empathy for the people in front of you instead of the victims of your
policy. it end with bad law making generally. the idea that trump should have hugged a few widows. i don't think it's his job to cry or even be sincere about how he feels. and there is no evidence he is not empathetic. the president has a constitutional duty to fulfill certain obligations. and their job is fulfill them in terms of efficiency and effectiveness. not in terms of us examining what's in their hearts. what's in their heart is not only irrelevant, it's counter productive. kennedy: don't put pork in that bill, legislators. kennedy: a rising star in the democratic party says she's
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potentially very juicy. the attorney general's involvement in a state level probe could signal attempt to get around the president's ability to pardon manafort. a president can only pardon someone charged with a federal crime. schneiderman is certainly no friend of the president having led the charge in the fraud case against trump university. so does this mean the investigation into the administration's alleged russia ties is intensifying? bring in buck sexton former cia officer and host of buck sexton with america now. welcome back. >> good to be here. kennedy: so special counsel is reportedly working with this new york state attorney general. is that problem atic? >> problematic on a number of levels. schneiderman was one of the individuals really engaged in a collusion with other state attorneys general looking at the issue of climate change and trying to create problems for people based on his sense of where the science is. he's a very political guy. schneid
schneiderman is a progressive and leftist. this shows the scope the special counsel investigation is looking into is limited, it's not supposed to be, but no specific crime they're lookinga. the nowhere does it appear in federal statute and even if within colluding with russia there were crimes committed.. kennedy: scummy opportunistic political operative who would do whatever he could to be in proximity of power. he got himself onto the trump campaign, but having said, that even if he is ethically and morally compromised, it doesn't seem like that's enough to pull down the presidency. >> yeah, and look, there's a technical term that is shady. manafort is super shady. the more people learn about the way he conducts, not the way he
conducts business but the people he conducts it for. he's an individual who, look, i'm assuming they're looking at his tax forms, looking at all of his financial interactions. kennedy: and drop a dime on the president? that's the ultimate political score for a progressive powerful attorney general like schneiderman. is that what they're trying to do is put enough pressure, get enough information from manafort he damages the president? >> i think that's what the media wants us to think at least. no one knows what the strategy is that robert mueller who is supposed to be completely full of integrity and beyond. kennedy: politically agnostic. >> exactly. but working with a democrat partisan hack attorney general for the state of new york to look into some way to flip somebody to get -- it's not supposed to be about getting trump, it's about doing justice, i know that sounds quaint but it is the ultimate job of the justice department and anybody who works for it.
you're seeing the media trying to run with the narrative before the facts are in. kennedy: maybe the state attorney general doesn't have the facts in. >> people are saying this is to get around a pardon. who's to say he's going to pardon manafort? i don't think trump gives a you know what about getting manafort prosecuted. kennedy: he's no joe arpaio. >> that he is not. in fact if you are looking for somebody who is going to get thrown under the bus. manafort has a reputation that is shady, and say maybe this is all the russia stuff, all the weird meetings having to do with putin. kennedy: that was manafort's self-interest. that is completely plausible. >> voted off the island and the floating dumpster fire for all of trump's problems. i don't necessarily see him pardoned, people say trump is a fascist, he's going to destroy the rule of law in this country, et cetera. kennedy: the tribe has spoken. buck, thank you.
bernie sanders introducing a single-payer health care bill. california senator kamala harris who many in the democratic party consider a future presidential candidate will cosponsor the bill in her hometown of oakland. >> it is so much better people have meaningful access to affordable health care at every stage of life from birth on because the alternative is that we as taxpayers otherwise are paying huge amounts of money for them to get their health care in an emergency room. kennedy: taxpayers are paying too much in california because they're overtaxed! and she has helped try to destroy the state! and now she's going to get her dirty fingers into medicare? she's a horrible person. back with me to debate is deirdre bolton, ned ryun and tom shillue. deirdre, start with you, the medicare idea is awful, it's expensive. we can't afford it
unfortunately. >> all for the politics. be shocked that there is gambling in the casino. for me this is kamala harris 2020, right? gillibrand is in on it as is elizabeth warren. you're going to keep the bernie people, what better way than to pick a bernie topic. kennedy: that's interesting, as people are trying to pull bernie sanders out of the democratic party trying draft him with a different party but kamala harris trying to hold onto bernie supporters. >> this is nothing but a cross-political move to win the bernie bros over. she failed to mention every american would lose health insurance and taxes would go through the roof if you had single payer. and the thing that's so interesting about democrats's solutions to health care is they want to go down the single payer route which we're in on a collision course for and republicans in d.c. don't have the guts to say no, single payer does not address at the heart of the issue of health care problem which is cost.
and we've allowed the cost structure two, thirds of our hospital system, they're nonprofits acting as massive profit generating revenue streams, northwestern hospital in chicago, 3.8 billion in patient revenue in 2015 alone acting as a nonprofit? we are asking for cost inflation if we allow a fifth of our economy to act as nonprofits and make record revenue. >> we pay a boatload compared to other industrialized nations. >> my answer is they want to go single payer, our answer is to address the tax code. kennedy: also, why don't you tackle the fact when government is involved in health care, that's when you start to destroy the system. >> i think this is a political ploy. this is kamala harris riding bernie sanders' coattails trying to raise her profile and seem like a do gooder. >> it's going work, they want to run a socialist against trump, is that what they want
to do? >> glad she's showing her true colors so people what happened she's about. she's a crass politician who wants to take a stab at path of socialism. great. >> there are a lot of people who say it was stupid to kick out bernie sanders, right? if nothing else, the dnc e-mails showed us. that people said fine, he should have run. kennedy: she is not the bridge, that's what she's trying to be, bitten off more than she can chew. she's a neophyte. so glad to have the party panel, tom, ned and deirdre. so glad to have you back. >> thank you. kennedy: a new missile defense test off the coast of hawaii as kim jong-un is reportedly ordering his troops to prepare for imminent war. what will the administration do to respond? lieutenant to folks everywhere whose diabetic... ...nerve pain shoots and burns its way into your day... ...i hear you. when that pain makes simple errands simply unbearable... ...i hear you.
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colonel ralph peters, author of the book judgment. welcome back to the show. >> kennedy, great to be with you in person. the radiance is incredible. i feel like i might get a sun burn. kennedy: that might just be the shine from one of the north korean missiles. unfortunately, i worry, i was talking to ambassador bolton about this last night. i worry about north korea decides to lobsomething they're going to lobeverything they've got and difficult to intercept dozens of missiles if they choose to do that over seoul and japan and sgaum hawaii. >> and that may well be. the truth is we can't see into that guy's head. clearly lot of snakes in there, but my worry about kim jong-un isn't that he's insane but rather he has an information deficit about the rest of the world, and he's been dealing with weak u.s. administrations
for both parties for so long that wanted to talk this out, talk this out, i'm afraid he may overestimate his capacities greatly and underestimate both our capacities and our resolve, and when he says the north korean people are ready for war, he doesn't know what war is. he just doesn't. he's a fat young guy with a bad hair cut who has no experience of firsthand violence. kennedy: and it's scary to think he would put millions's of people's lives in jeopardy, but you know, you have a little bit of a split in the administration because rex tillerson and defense secretary mattis have both said that, you know, they don't want the military option. we want to figure this thing out. we would love to denuclearize north korea, that may not be possible but the president says talking is no longer an option so, is there a split in the administration and where do we go without making sure we don't take dozens of millions of lives? >> yeah, well, we certainly don't want to be seen as the aggressors, i don't think we will be, but obviously,
kennedy, no sane person with a shred of morality left wants war. kennedy: no. >> but at the same time, this say regime we cannot allow to develop fully deliverable nuclear warheads against the united states because this is one regime that cannot be predicted. now, we also, i think, often overestimate the capability of north korean military, south korean military is much better. the north korean military can make a big mess real fast but lose decisively. but again, i'm not sure he knows that. kennedy: maybe he doesn't, maybe he's overestimated his powers, and, again, you know a great deal about war having written a dozen books on the civil war alone, judgment apmattox, this is the most recent book, deals with the last two weeks of the civil war which were absolutely brutal. it was not romanticized, it was brutal on both sides. >> i detest the way we romanticize war or certainly
the way hollywood or others have simplified and romanticized the civil war. and particularly over the controversy over confederate statues. i would like people to know what they're talk about. not a debate, it's a shouting match. the fanatical left or the extreme right have any idea about the complexity of the civil war or the humanity of people on both sides. there are heroes and villains on both sides, just as in our daily lives we judge people as individuals. just as we look back in history, judge people as individuals, were they good men and women which the times they lived. kennedy: people can do that reading your book. appreciate it, great to see. >> you thank you. kennedy: coming up, the people of texas have taken mother nature's best shot and taking shots of their own. we'll tell you how vodka is
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topic number one -- if you're going ride on a rescue boat in the great state of texas, be prepared for anything! check out the heroes. saving lives with a little help of grandpa's cast rupp, it's stress if you are feeling under control the person next to me might not. that is an example. look at them sharing water out of the cap of a bottle. that's not water. that's vodka! many texans were shocked by this video because they assumed the men in the boat would be pounding whiskey. they drank all that at breakfast and switched it up at lunch, and personally, i give all these guys all the credit in the world because vodka is very hard to get into. not as hard to get into as joel osteen's church. number two -- merger between amazon and whole foods is driving down produce prices, nobody is happier than
the people of spain who held the annual tomato fight yesterday known as la tomatina. eyeball the first to admit i had no idea this was a thing. when i turned on the tv and saw people throwing tomatoes, i figured they were watching katy perry at the video music awards. nope! this is a real-life free for all, and unlike katy's audience they are enjoying themselves. over 22,000 people attended the event and historians are calling it the biggest food fight since the 2016 presidential election. the only difference is during yesterday's food fight someone broke a glass ceiling. all the guests were like que passo! what happened? write a book. topic number three -- don't you hate it when you're
stoned at the taco bell drive through and can't decide what to order because there are so many choices? happens to kids all the time. don't touch me. i let them drive. i'm not a low life. thanks. things are about to get harderous, taco bell added another menu item called the naked egg taco. they take a deep-fried egg folded up like a taco shell and stuff it full of potatoes, cheese and bacon! and after you order it, a cashier gives you a giant hug because things must be going horribly wrong for you if you're eating like this. i ordered one this morning at the taco bell and the cashier came out from behind the counter and was like hang in there sweet thing. gave me a hug. it was awkward but it was nice to see james van der beek
again. i hope that's the right song. topic number four -- former talk show host jerry springer considering a run for ohio governor. and this is huge news, if springer returns to television, "game of thrones" won't be the only place to watch a fight. he's so serious he's meeting with supporters and obtained footage from his first rally. watch. say what you want, but this is way more civilized than the springer tv show, he's cleaned up his act now and entering politics for real. somebody should tell him that you don't have to do that anymore, jer-bear. topic number five -- he was the mayor of cincinnati. in life there is constructive criticism, and there's tough love, but lurking in the gutter
of the internet, if you were male, oliver picks up the slack with, hey, kennedy, remember when you were the awkward weird one on mtv? yeah, me, too. oliver, remember when you were the awkward one forever your entire life? yeah, so does everyone else who ignores you. old school tweets, i no longer care to hear you chime in with the insane media. bing, bang, bong, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bong, that's a replay of my monologue. dave asks, what have you been smoking kennedy? taco bell taco eggshell. rumman says sorry, you don't have a clue. your name is dumb. it's not even roman. i don't have a thesaurus for dumb names.
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evacuation area, we're waiting for the appropriate time to go back and check things out. kennedy: when you and i spoke a couple days ago, you said things in houston were worse than the news was showing, and some of the images are so stunning and heart breaking, what did you see? >> we've seen a lot. we've seen a lot. where our church is, is in the west houston area referred to commonliesa the energy corridor. i live in suburbs further west than that, and in that area we've been hit very, very hard by these reservoir dumps that you've been hearing about on the national level, and so based on those reservoir dumps, we're seeing people that felt secure one moment, all of a sudden have a house full of water, and then the scenes have been horrific on one side of the coin, and on the other side of the coin, absolutely inspiring. it's horrific to see families with the state of shock as they
see rapids going through their homes, but i cannot tell you enough how inspiring it is to see the texans coming together with such christian love, it's something that i've never seen before in my life. we have people that are coming in from unaffected areas, as far as three and four hours away with jackedup trucks and jet skis and canoes because they say it's their duty to come and help their brothers and sisters you. >> told me that you had parishioners from your church in canoes goes to rescue another parishioner with ms, an older woman, she couldn't walk and use the wheelchair, she was trying to get herself up the stairs to be saved. were they able to reach her? >> correct, thank god that entire family is intact. the home was flooded. however, the entire family is intact and staying with a family member and say are safe and dry and they are together. i can't tell you enough. i'm going around as a first
responder as well too through iocc, international orthodox christian charities and trying to connect resources together for people, and inasmuch as people keep asking, father where is god in all of this? all you have to do is point down the block to one person helping somewhere else and immediately a smile comes to their face and people keep referencing how they're blessed and somebody else has it worse. the memorializing story that's going to come out of hurricane harvey isn't the most horrific hurricane that hit this area of the country. it's going to be the best outpouring of christian love that the world and definitely that this area of the world has ever seen and felt. kennedy: thank you so much father luke. god bless you and your family. >> thank you so much, kennedy. god bless. kennedy: thank you. and thank you so much for watching tonight. if you'd like to make a donation to hurricane harvey relief efforts, here's information how you can help --
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