tv Sunday Morning Futures With Maria Bartiromo FOX Business December 31, 2017 6:00pm-7:01pm EST
pete: happy new year, everybody. >> trish: good morning 2018 is just around the corner and as the year winds down the chairman of the house intelligence committee is demanding answers on the anti-trump dossier and congressional leaders gear up for a wednesday meeting at the white house, we'll talk immigration and spending hi, everyone. i'm trish regan in for maria bartiromo and this is sunday morning futures happy new years eve. house intel chairman devon nunes hammering the justice department are they stonewalling on the anti-trump dossier? congressman ron desantis joins us live and the top white house officials talk on spending and immigration is a deal on daca in the cards? former congressman jason chaffet
z is here. and is reforming medicaid the next target for republicans, congresswoman marsha blackburn is live as we look ahead on new years eve on sunday morning futures. the head of the house intelligence committee is blasting the department of justice and the fbi for failing to turn over documents tied to the largely discredited anti- trump dossier. fox news obtaining a letter congressman devon nunes sent to deputy attorney general rod rosenstein suggesting the fbi and justice department should be investigating themselves and demanding all records by this wednesday. joining me right now is florida republican congressman ron desantis a member of the house oversight and judiciary committee happy new years eve so good to see you congressman. let me ask you about this letter here from representative nunes.
putting that deadline on things how does that change the equation right now? will they need it? >> well i think the letter was great and i applaud chairman nun es for doing that. i think that deadline needs to be enforceable. trish we've been doing this for months and months asks very simple questions about the genesis of the investigation about how the dossier came into the investigation whether the fbi paid for the dossier whether they used it to get surveillance on any trump associate and those are all very easy questions to actually answer and yet we've been met with resistance after resistance after resistance, so i think they have until next week to do it and then if not, i think the house is going to have to move on to different measures in order to force compliance. >> trish: congressman, what do you think that resistance is about? >> you know, it's hard to tell. you have a lot of people in there who have been apart of the bureaucracy for a long time. to me the questions are very
easy to answer. if you said of course we didn't use the dossier then you'd just say that and i think the reason is probably that some of the answers to these questions are going to call further into question the behavior some of the people involved at the very highest levels of both the clinton and russia investigation s. people like peter strzok so we need answers to those questions and i think what they're doing by resisting but then actually leaking certain fact to the media there was just an article in the new york times yesterday where they're leaking about this which actually conflicts with previous stories and is not anything that anyone has been able to say under oath on the record to us. you look at that and say okay you're not willing to answer congress' questions under oath but you'll leak things to the media? that is not the way this is supposed to work. >> trish: well you think about frankly whose running the fbi and james comey sort of leaker-
in-chief if you will himself i remember being absolutely stunned during his testimony when he admitted he was the one that actually leaked things to his friend at columbia who could in turn leak it to the new york times. shocking to me because it tells me perhaps congressman a little bit about the culture and one of the things i'm amazed by is if they're so into leaking how come we haven't heard more about this so-called collusion between the trump campaign and the russians? why haven't they been able to find anything to pinpoint to leak the media? >> oh, yeah if there was any evidence of collusion that would have been leaked months and months ago. you can bet your bottom dollar on that but it's very very frustrating to see a lot of times they will refuse to answer congress' questions because they say well it's classified we're not sure we can do it in this setting but then they leak classified information to the media, so it's just very very frustrating process but you're exactly right. i think there has not been evidence of collusion and one of the kind of data points that
supports that is i think if there was evidence of that, i think the press would have gotten it by way. >> trish: so let's go back to the trump dossier for a moment because this was put together as everyone knows by now by a firm, hired sort of hit job kind of firm to dig up dirt on someone is fusion gps and they were brought in and eventually down the road, employed in part by folks close to clinton, hillary clinton and bank rolled by the democrats. i guess the big question that we have to ask is was russia deliberately trying to mess with us, with the united states of america and our whole election process and did they deliberately feed false information to christopher steel , the british spy that was hired to compile this dossier? i think that's, there's a lot of answers and the scary thought is that possibly the fbi used this to get fisa warrants.
>> well we know for sure that steel was getting information from foreign service bureau sources in russia. there's just no doubt about it. we're trying to figure out whether he actually paid for that information that it's possible that he did do that and so you're right. you have the democrats paying, now they funneled the money through a perkins co law firm who paid fusion to try to camouflage this but the lids have been blown off and we now know it's the democrats money. steel is actively working with russia and yes, i think it's without question that he was fed a lot of disinformation i don't even know that any of these russian sources could have dream ed that this thing would have been used the way it has been potentially and so if that was their aim i think it was successful but they bring this dossier back and this thing is basically just a bunch of garbage and so if that was relied upon, that is something that's very very important and there's a very easy answer to that question, trish. we just need to get it. >> trish: you say it's a bunch of garbage and i'd encourage
people to actually check it out because i can tell you just reading through this thing, it actually reads like some kind of tabloid piece of fiction from an opposition party. even the way it's written is to me, quite odd. if a spy is gathering intelligence you wouldn't think they would compile it and put it into a dossier that looked anything like that one and of course, this is imploding congressmen around many journalist organizations and no one touched it or published it because no one saw it as authentic and no one could verify a darn thing in there and yet, our own fbi, somehow is possibly taking this as some kind of gospel that they then think they need to issue warrant s on people and eavesdrop , et cetera? >> well yeah, and remember how the dossier eventually became public. comey briefed president-elect trump january 6 of 2017 and then low and behold a couple hours
later, cnn they didn't want to print the dossier because they knew it was false but what they did was they leaked the existence of the meeting about the dossier so that was the way that got into the bloodstream and there was only a handful of people who knew about that meeting including james clapper who was the head of national intelligence under barack obama so this whole thing with this dossier and how government either did use it or may have used it, it really does stink to high heaven. >> trish: when people talk about the deep state is this what they're referring to? >> you know, i draw a distinction between the rankin file, the fbi who i think if you look across our government some of these fbi agents are as good as anybody and any agency of government, when i served in iraq back in 07 , uhf b i agents out in places risking their lives. i think the problem has been with a relatively small number of people who've very been high up in the agency both in justice department and in the fbi and
these happen to be the people who were the driving forces behind both the hillary e-mail investigation and then the trump collusion russia investigation and i think anybody who misbehaved needs to be held accountable but at a minimum we need to know what all these people did and how all this information was handle handled. >> trish: i think that's probably perhaps for americans the most frustrating thing, in other words everybody has questions and it's been proven the russians interfered in the election and by the way there was information this week going back to 2016 of course when the obama administration knew they were trying to interfere in the election and for whatever reason the obama administration wasn't so concerned then maybe because they thought it would benefit hillary clinton. that aside, people want answers nobody wants the russians interfering with anything and we deserve these answers on both sides but it has become so politicized how do you get away from that congressman? does robert mueller need to step down? >> well look, i think a lot of the questions that i have pre-
date mueller's appointment. i have problems with mueller being appointed simply because i thought it was a counter intelligence investigation not a criminal investigation. rod rosenstein made a mistake by imposing a criminal prosecutor on this because we didn't really have evidence of a crime and so what a prosecutor's going to do is find evidence of a crime but that's not really the way you want criminal investigations to go. you want there to be an identified crime and then try to build the case and that basic central crime was never there in this case but in terms of the partisanship, trish i'm dizzy with how russia is handled by the democrats. a couple years ago obama was refusing to provide lethal aid to ukraine, they were trying to do a reset. the democrats viewed guys like me who are more of the reagan school that's tough on russia as kind of throwbacks to the cold war. they criticized mitt romney in 2012. now all of a sudden because they're using it against trump, they're so concerned about russia. i think we should be concerned about them but i think a lot of
this stuff has smelled of politics from the day that election happened. >> trish: i'm glad you said that representative desantis because we questioned why we shouldly wanted to be friends with russia while hillary clinton was secretary of state but now russia is the sworn enemy but what i would say is we knew all along when you go back to the bush era, we knew russia was a threat. this was out there, condoleeza rice was a russian scholar they knew and for whatever reason during the obama administration they decided to ignore that the mitt romney point is a very good one congressman desantis happy new year to you. thank you. >> happy new year. >> trish: republicans getting a huge win with tax too reform before the close of 2017 and now the next battle could be entitle ment reform where the gop they seem divided on this one, congresswoman marsha blackburn will join me here on how it plays out and follow us on twitter at sunday futures. stay with us we've got a whole lot more to come on this new years eve sunday morning futures
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trish: after the gop's huge win passing tax reform in 2017 entitlement cuts appear to be the next battle brewing on capitol hill. medicaid could be facing cuts i want to bring in republican congresswoman marsha blackburn of tennessee. good to see you as always and happy new years to you. representative, you know it's never easy when you cut entitle
ments right? once you give them they're very very hard politically speaking to take them away. do you think it's prudent to actually be out there taking away benefits right now when you've got 18 coming up? >> trish, i think what we have to do is make sure people understand we're not talking about taking away benefits from those who deserve those benefits the goal is to make certain that those who deserve and need those benefits get everything they're entitled to. the answer is how do you do that or that's the question and the answer is you do it by making the system more efficient, by innovating, utilizing healthcare technology and then another thing i think is exciting, to have a discussion on is looking at graham cassidy. the legislation, the senators have that they want to send medicaid back to the state and here in tennessee when i talked to our terrific state
legislators that we have, they say please, send it to us. we can deliver these benefits more effectively and that will give us the opportunity to innovate and they're excited about doing that. trish: maybe that's what's in-store but as you look at all of the policy items that you can attack in 2018, one of the big ones for the president is infrastructure. >> correct. trish: if you were to stack this up and say what you wanted to get to first yourself, representative, would it be infrastructure or would it be entitlement reform? >> for me, getting to the broadband, high speed internet title is number one. i am chairman of the communications and technology subcommittee at energy and commerce and i am so looking forward to broadband expansion and working with the president and his administration on getting this out there and here is where this intersects with healthcare. if you're going to preserve all of our rural hospitals that need
that preservation, if you're going to increase the opportunities for home health and delivery of home health, what you're going to need is consistent reliable high speed internet, so there is going to be an intersection of these two and the president is very focused on this rightly so and the vice president has quite a history of being very good on the issues of medicare and medicaid and with their leadership and working with the house and the senate, i think that kind of cleaning up these systems so that benefits go to those that deserve them. trish: i hear you it sounds like you want both things then. >> that's right because they're going to intersect. trish: working pretty aggressive ly to de regulate some of the industry and get rid of those regulations that has hindered it from growing as fast as we would like to see it grow but you're saying basically this is an infrastructure play of kinds, deregulation that
simultaneously will benefit the reform and healthcare system. >> well it will and when you look at infrastructure and you look at the broadband expansion and you look at increasing those opportunities in rural and under served areas, then you're talking about access to more quality healthcare for more americans and utilizing some of those next generation concepts. trish: let me jump in and ask you about what we're going to do right now about the increasing debt loads that we all have 20 trillion and still counting and now of course i'm a big believer that tax cuts will stimulate the economy and i think that you're going to see an increase in tax revenue as a result of these tax cuts but nonetheless, all this stuff costs money and the president as much as you want to deal with healthcare reform wants to do infrastructure and they're talking about potentially a $1 trillion infrastructure program. where is the money going to come from? >> and as we look at where the
money is going to come from, i think one of the things that the president has talked about and mick mulvaney has talked about is public/private partnerships. trish: i like that. >> and pulling together these public/private partnerships. looking at what we can do on our end with utilizing those dollars to basically be the multiplier. when you send this money back to the states and these grants go out into infrastructure, there are some opportunities that are going to be there but trish, this is the challenge to us, i believe, is how do we do some of these across-the-board cuts, reduce some spending and address entitlements so that money is going for 21st century delivery. trish: sure look and you know it's so easy to spend right but to actually have to make cuts you're going to have to get pretty innovative. >> well right. i've had my one, two and 5% across-the-board spending cuts
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trish: republican and democratic congressional leaders are meeting with senior white house officials later this week as they try to hammer out a deal to avert a government shutdown. immigration will likely be on the agenda as well of course. joining me right now former utah congressman jason chaffetz a fox news contributor so good to see
you this morning on new year's eve. >> happy new year. thank you. trish: thank you very much. are they going to work this one out? we aren't going to have a budget shutdown are we? >> well january 19 is a big day and you're going to have this battle royale between the conservatives an i think the democrats and immigration is going to be front and center. democrats have made no bones about it they want daca reform. i think the president has signaled he's open to that but at the same time, this president was elected on tough border security and he's going to get funding for that wall and he's going to have to deal with chain migration and a host of other immigration issues. trish representative chaffetz how will they go for that? the democrats want daca reform but the wall symbolize physically physically symbolize everything that they dislike about this president, which is a little bit exaggerated if you ask me only because it's symbolic for controlling our
borders which is a country you kind of need to do but they hate the idea, they hate him, and if they actually vote for money for the wall, they're never able to live that down with their constituents. >> i think that's all very true but in 2006 these democrats including mr. schumer and senator schumer and speaker pelosi they were fine with it. they actually voted for funding of the wall and with the president has previously asked for $1.8 billion does not put a wall on the entire border but it does fund a big portion of it and right now, i've been down to the border. i've seen it. you'll have a wall and all of a sudden it stops and then you've got a barbed wire fence and you can see the path between mexico and the united states where people just walk across. it's ridiculous and you're asking these border patrol agents to try to protect the border against drugs without the necessary support and i would
think they would want to be able to do that. now, i do think we could deal with daca but we also have to deal with chain migration and deal with a seem um reform and deal with sanctuary cities where it wasn't too long ago this administration lost a court case on sanctuary cities, some simple language in the next appropriations bill and you could actually solve that problem. trish: and it's wild to think even the ninth circuit "there telling the president he cannot have the power to decide who comes into this country at any given time, so that of course was reversed but you know chain migration is a big one. a lot of democrats i've spoken to say well the president's family came here on chain migration, but what's different about when the president's family came here and the environment we're now living in representative? >> well look, we have just been dealing with even in the last few days, people that are here illegally you have the governor of california, the governor of new york taking people that are
coming here as immigrants commit ting crimes. we aren't even deporting the criminal element under barack obama, there were no more than 80,000 people that were here illegally got caught committing a crime and instead of deporting him he just released them back out into the united states of america, so this president, president trump was elected on a tough in it grace stance. trish: i would encourage everyone i was speaking with historian doug weed this week and i'd encourage everyone to look back at what our nation has done when it comes to immigration. we have this sort of false narrative we've always been welcoming. we've been welcoming to an extent only to people who want to come here and embrace our values and help make this country a better place and you can go back and read some john adams findings about this. anybody who committed a crime even the littlest one you are out and anyway, we'll see what happens this year 2018 is going to be a big one.
congressman good to see you thank you happy new year. to you and your family. >> happy new year. trish: the art market has gone steadily for decades now next one of the biggest dealers there is telling us why owning art is no lingerie luxury? stay with us on sunday morning futures i'll be right back. i mean wish i had time to take care of my portfolio, but.. well, what are you doing tomorrow -10am? staff meeting. noon? eating. 3:45?
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trish: you know the art market has seen a steady rise over the past few decades so much so that some dealers are saying it's no longer considered a luxury product. maria sat down with one of the world's biggest art dealers, he's owner of the international chain of galleries and he discusses the changes in the ever-growing art market. watch it. it's interesting. maria: see some of the outside sales that we've been talking about recently. it's really eye popping, what's behind it? >> well, naturally, liquidity is a big factor in any market and there seems to be a lot of money in the world and there's a lot of discretionary money and art has become at the same time a much more popular pursuit, hobby i hate to use the phrase but asset class because i don't really like to look at art that way. i think that's a dangerous way to look at it in some respects but it's certainly a factor some people buy art because they're
confident that it will be a good store value and this is kind of a recent phenomenon. the art market has become kind of global phenomenon. i mean people collected art in all cultures for thousands of years literally, but the market, what we're talking about right now is in some ways a new phenomenon. the type of market that we're talking about is a relatively new animal and you know, it's great for artists because if you're a talented artist and you are entering the market now as a young artist who really has talent, i think you're going to find there are people out there who are going to be collecting your work so it's great for young artists who of course you've got to be good and not everything, not all art is created equally. maria: i'm glad you mentioned young artists i want to ask you about that but first let me go back to something you said because it struck me and you said it's different. why?
why do you see this particular moment different? what's different about it? >> what's different about it is it's not really different. it's just more of what we've experienced before. twenty years ago there were really no significant collectors of contemporary art in china or the middle east. latin america, so when the word globalization is people get tired of hearing it but the art market is certainly benefited from globalization so what's different now is you can transmit information very quickly. we have 16 galleries literally all over the world and for instance somebody who works in our gallery in hong kong have access to a particular painting and the liason with our gallery in geneva and we're not the only gallery that does that by the way. other galleries in this kind of a footprint maybe not quite as many galleries but they have access to the same electronic
communication. this is really fueled the market and also allowed collectors to have more transparency to have access to more transparency about prices which gives the market more confident dense so i think it's a convergence of these things we're seeing now that's resulted in a very healthy art market. maria: so globalization is really critical here because you've got so much money from around the world coming into america right now. this is one of the biggest destinations, art. >> right. well new york particularly. maria: and new york, right. >> it's a great asset for the city of new york is the art culture, the museums, galleries, the artists that work here, so new york has benefited enormously from the popularity of art. maria: there are some things that don't lose their value. i mean when you look at diamonds , when you look at high end accessories even, what would you say about the art market? >> it's not a luxury good, it's not a luxury product. it may appeal to people who buy
it but you can't simply call a factory and say give me a thousand more bags. i mean they're great bags don't get me wrong but it's a controlled, there's controlled supply by the very nature of how it's created, so there's scarcity and there's always the hand of the artist involved and that makes it different and sometimes people try to categorize it as a luxury. it's a disservice to art in my opinion and it really distorts the true nature of the market. this is one of the early girl paintings from his pop art period 1962 and there may be i don't know, 30-35 paintings from this period depicting women in this kind of idealized comic strip fashion and this one is the actress janet lee for some reason. it might have been inspired by
janet lee. maria: what were your thoughts when you saw the da vinci? >> well i literally saw it because i was at christies and i was sitting there and i mean it was just jaw dropping. nobody expected the price to go that high. nobody i knew. it was just people were flabergasted. it was stunning, a stunning price unprecedented. maria: i know. i mean but i had friends in the market who i had dinner with the night before and they said well we don't trust that painting. we would never be there because we think its been painted over. i mean -- >> well it had some restoration, as many old master paintings do. the painting is how many hundred years old and it didn't live in a museum its role life. it had been passed through other hands so it had restoration and some collectors were put off by it, but it was a da vinci and there are only 16 and this is arguably the last one that will ever come on the market unless
another one is discovered in the future and again, the brand da vinci is a pretty good brand, so i mean the price was flabergast ing but if you look back at why it happened, maybe it's plausible in a certain way. maria: it's interesting to see that. >> because that much money to have something that rare. anything can happen. maria: you said it's so global. who are the big money buyers today in terms of countries? obviously america is america, but when you look around the world is it chinese, is it saudi where do you see it? >> well saudis are starting to get in the market. cat after have been collecting heart now for about the last 20 years seriously, china's a huge market. i think it's a growing market and i think the economy there is just going to get stronger and stronger they're building museum s like mcdonald's. there's museums all over china. big ones private ones there's a museum that's just about they're
just about to start construction i think 1.5 million square feet in beijing. the one abu dabi just opened so these museums have to put something on the wall and buy art and to attract people they can't just borrow paintings from other museums they need to have it's a destination and particularly when you're in a place like beijing you want to bring traffic to your museum. you've got to make exciting acquisitions to bring the public in. this is a beautiful painting from the neoclassical period of picasso painted in 1925 it's a very large canvas for that period typically they're much smaller paintings. this is big canvas and it depicts one of picasso's children who actually sadly died very young and picasso quite often would dress him up in a bullfighter outfit and picasso
was a big big bullfight fan, had incredible photographs of picasso with other artists of his generation in the bull ring and he liked to dress him up his pablito, that was his name, dress him up in these bull fighter costumes and make paintings of him. he did maybe 10 paintings, i don't know how many but i hand full of paintings with his son dressed as a bullfighter. maria: tell me about the cycles of the art market because you must have seen ups and downs in your career right? >> absolutely i've seen really rough cycles but i think the cycles recently have been less severe. dot com bubble, lehman brothers crash, the first bad bad art market that i had to kind of soldier, through was in the early 90s and it was just at a point where the japanese, their stock market collapsed, they were huge collectors of art they all wanted to sell. there were these funds, i'm not
a big fan of art funds by the way. there were these funds that were buying art and they all wanted to get out. everybody wanted to sell and there were very few buyers. believe me, he kept my gallery open, but they were very few buyers, there were very few buyers. he didn't have, you didn't have the middle east. you didn't have latin american buyers. you had zero china, and you had, you know, basically a recession in the united states. it was terrible. since then what i've noticed because of the broadening of the market we've been talking about because of the buyers in the middle east because of the great new collectors in china because of the broadening of the market in this country and elsewhere yeah it goes in cycles. anybody who thinks that it's not going to go in another cycle, all markets go in cycles. trish: really interesting stuff so art is not an investment or art is an investment, it's not a
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and congress as well as the special council probe so what can we expect next joins me right now is chief congressional correspondent at the washington examiner and brad blakeman. brad starting with you so there's this deadline now thanks to devon nunes, he's saying look we want these things turned over related to the so-called dossier compiled by, well, a british spy funded by the democrats to dig up dirt on donald trump. what do you think will come of that? >> well hopefully we'll get to the truth. it's ironic that it takes a charity judicial watch in order to get a lot of the information we should be entitled to that's in the possession of the government. i hope that the fbi did not contribute u.s.-funded dollars to this effort in getting information from the dossier but certainly they relied on it and
we want to know to what affect did they rely on it in order to get warrants to wire tap americans, this is very serious business, not only in the conduct of the fbi but also the supervision of the fbi, so nunes is making head way but i think the american people are fatigued by this russian collusion. there's nothing that seems to be there with regard to trump but there seems to be something there regarding the fbi. trish: susan, brad makes a good point here. you would think especially given all of the leaking happening in washington you would think we would hear more about this connection between donald trump and his campaign to actually collusion with the russians, but for whatever reason, it seems as though the whole thing is sort of turning on its head and the fingerpointing is really happening now more at hillary clinton and her team. i guess the bottom line is we all want answers on both sides. are we going to get them this
year? >> well there's clearly resistance from mueller & company for turning over this information. that's not unusual. they don't really like the co- mingling of congressional investigations with the federal government's investigation that doesn't surprise me but the problem is it really shields the information that brad was just talking about. what role did the dossier play in instigating this whole investigation? you have the new york times story that's out over the weekend that is putting a more emphasis on trump aid, george playing a major role in learning about these damaging e-mails allegedly hacked by the russians and we don't know what he did with that informational of this again is unnamed sources per usual and in the new york times. but really it seems as though there's someone trying to put out a real counter narrative here against the idea that the dossier played any role so you have these two competing narratives. you have devon nenes tracking down what role the dossier
played not able to get that information on the other hand we have anonymous sources per usual leaking information that seemed to put the emphasis on the fbi beginning the investigation based on what they learned about george who did work for the trump campaign in some capacity and they're trying to build him up as a much more serious player within the trump campaign. they're trying to put more emphasis on trump's campaign collusion with the russian government. as this campaign the investigation evolves over the coming months, you've got the senate intelligence committee, the house intelligence committee as well as the senate judiciary committee looking at all of this it's going to be months and they've interviewed at least a hundred people over the senate. there's more interviews more documents. the big question is what will de von nunes get out of this? so far he hasn't got what he's wanted and they're drafting these contempt of congress charges against the fbi. we'll see how far that goes and whether they can use that to actually get the information they're seeking. trish: so if they hold them in
context of congress, maybe that will actually speed things up nobody wants to be held in contempt of congress good for them to be working on the draft of those documents but do you know if i'm robert mueller, brad , i would be very interested just exactly what was done with the trump dossier, its origin, who wanted it, who supplied information to mr. steel because i look at this and i'm just wondering if the russians deliberately inter interfered with our electoral process by feeding false information to this british spy who was then funneling it back to our own fbi >> there's no doubt that that certainly is within the realm of possibility. one thing -- trish: do you think mueller care s? >> he should care but the russians did try to influence our election that's the bad news good news is it does not have an
effect but we have to make sure they didn't do it again and i think our focus needs to be on the russians interference and not this fictitious what i believe to be fictitious collusion between the trump campaign. he's a wannabe. i've been involved in presidential campaigns and i've seen these guys. he was a free agent not acting with the direction of the campaign he was trying to be somebody and in trying to be somebody what did it get him a perjury conviction. trish: in order to actually prove collusion if you would and i don't think collusion is really the right word here, because they would actually have to determine that donald trump basically sent his minions out and said tell the russians to hack into hillary clinton's e-mail server and the dnc and we're going to make sure all that stuff gets released. when you talk about the standard for a crime and i've spoken a lot with professor alan dershowitz about this thing that's what we're talking about
because if you talk to the russians or had a white russian at a bar, [laughter] on any given night, it seems as though you are now a suspect but it's going to take a whole lot more than that isn't it susan? >> i think so. i mean, where does the trail go from here? there's no evidence that george passed this information along to anybody in the trump campaign. can they get more out of him on this? it's not clear, but i think in congress what you're going to see is maybe a couple of revelations in the coming months , first i'm told that they may come up with, you know, how close was the collusion between trump russia but first they may get into how much influence did the russians have on this election? so i think we may hear two outcomes. trish: don't go anywhere we've got lots more to talk about as we get ready to ring in the new year what will be the biggest stories of 2018? we're looking ahead and i've got more with the panel we'll see
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trish: the countdown is on we got the new year coming up and in well a matter of hours so what are the biggest stories do you think that 2018 capture? we're back with our panel right now. brad, i would imagine still the whole russia thing, right? >> well i don't think so. i think we'll be able to pivot the issues and i would urge the viewers to focus like a laser beam on january 30 the day that president trump will give his state of the union and that's the roadmap to where we're going up to the midterm elections and beyond. i think the president needs to reach out his hand across the aisle because now, we need democrats. the numbers are against us in the senate and we have to tackle infrastructure, immigration, daca, sunsets in march and if we're really in a bipartisan spirit we'll be able to knockout healthcare so i think this is
going to be a year of issues. i don't think people -- trish: do you think the russians are going to go away good? >> no. trish: no it's not going to go away? >> no with the first few months of 2018 and it may go away some time next year and that's just a hope. trish: oh, okay. but, we can still work on all this policy, susan you agree with that? i mean the economy has been doing much much better upwards of 3% growth looking at 25 k nearly on the dow some people predicting 30 k, and the hope is that wages will start to grow because that's what's so critical in this economy right now that people start to get paid more money. can that happen in 18? >> i think the economy is going to be a major story this coming year because it's going to be a reflection of the gop and the president's tax policy that it's going to be starting in february , when it becomes law. we'll see whether wages go up which is a promise that republicans made and whether the public really comes to understand the implications of the tax law, the polling shows that people think they have a
tax increase when the vast majority will not. i think it's also going to be a year about the president's messaging skills . he will be out on the campaign trail i think delivering his message and promoting the accomplishments so far in his administration which have been mostly overshadowed by negative media, but i don't think the russia issue is going to go away. i think democrats want to prolong this as long as possible trish: that may not be good for them though as we increasingly hear more about this dossier. i think you're right . it's going to continue to lurk in the background and but i don't think it will prevent his policy agenda from getting accomplished one question i have for you though, brad is this wall, because when you talk about daca and you talk about actually real immigration reform, the president has made it clear the walls part of that. people, you know, in the democratic party don't want to spend one penny on it, so how do they, how do they get what they want to get done on immigration when the democrats are so resistant to this idea?
>> they will have to compromise. the republicans have to do it, the democrats have to do it because the reliance on each other. democrats want a favorable daca bill so do republicans and the question is what are going to be the terms to the border security what are the terms to broader immigration and -- trish: and where do they get the money of course for the wall. by the way i have an idea for the president on this one. i think he could call steven mnuchin over at treasury and have him take a good hard look at the private equity carried interest loophole that could save americans $180 billion a year so that would build a lot of walls that does it for sunday morning good to see you guys i'm tr (siren blaring) ♪ working as an emt in a small town usually means hospitals aren't very close by. when you have a really traumatic injury,
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maria: welcome to a very special edition of wall street week. i'm maria bartiromo. usually we are the program that analyzes the week that was. today, we are analyzing the year that was by looking back at our biggest news-making interviews, most memorable moments of 2017, including this moment of myself with president trump. >> this weekend is the 31st anniversary of when president reagan last instituted tax reform. >> right. on sunday. maria: that's a big deal. on sunday. exactly. do you think we have