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there's a war story. i'm oliver north, good night. g. maria: good sunday morning, president trump touts tax reform in one battleground state ahead of key primaries this week, a federal judge accuses special counsel mueller's team of lying and the president says a date and location has now been set, for his anticipated meeting with north korea's dictator as the deadline looms for a iran nuclear deal good morning everyone i'm maria bartiromo thanks for joining us this is sunday morning futures primary voters head to the polls in several states this tuesday including ohio, where president trump just touted a tax reform round table we'll talk to house majority leader kevin mccarthy coming up about the republican mid-term strategy or to get his reaction to nancy pelosi saying the democrats will win back the
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house, meanwhile the department of justice facing new pressure this morning, all as special counsel robert mueller's team gets a fun lashing from one judge, and two advisors of fired fbi director james comey's advisor they are leaving the agency we'll tell you who. then former senator and democratic vice presidential nominee joe lieberman talks about how president trump should approach the threats and opportunities with north korea and iran as we look ahead right now on sunday morning futures. and the race for control of congress kicks into high gear as voters in several key battleground states prepare to head to the polls for tuesday's primary, and the stakes are high , republicans are looking to lock in several senate seats, come november, in hopes of breaking the long-standing trend of whoever holds the white house almost always loses seats come
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the mid-term elections something democrats are pretty much banking on most notably house minority leader nancy pelosi she expressed confidence that they will retake control of the house come november. joining me now to discuss all of that house majority leader kevin mccar she, potentially the next speaker of the house good to see you sir thanks for joining us. >> thanks for letting me come on with you. maria: i want to kick it off right there because nancy pelosi a lot to say this last week. we have it up on a graphic she told the i think it was the boston globe, we will win in november and i will run once again to be the speaker of the house and you say? >> that's probably one of the most scary things i've heard all week because picture come november 9 waking up, if the democrats controlled the house and nancy giving this congratulatory speech and becoming speaker. what we had to just transpired in the last year will all be reversed, so the number we just got today unemployment below 4%, we have not seen that in more than 18 years, if you have a child going off to college it's their entire lifetime.
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instead of them fearful leaving college and moving back home they are going to get a job. you look at 90% of all americans they got a pay raise with the tax cut. nancy pelosi called that armageddon and made sure no democrat would vote for that. you've got 48 out of 50 states their electrical bills are lower because of that tax cut. that would be reversed. or, 2 million more jobs in the last year, north korea now talking to south korea. the va reform that no longer a g i bill is only 15 years or you lose it. battling human trafficking, something we've been trying for the last 10 years, we've now shutdown that page. those things on the internet to contribute 70% of all the hundred thousand people traffic ked in america and we have so much more to do. opioids we just passed 60 bills inside the subcommittee and do you know what the democrats did? the exact same thing, they fought us, but republicans will stay with it, every american
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knows somebody whose addicted and we will solve this problem. infrastructure, reforming dodd-frank so these community banks could actually do what they're supposed to do in their own community. maria: you have a great story to tell certainly on the economic side of thins with the impact of the tax cuts impact of the rollback and regulations people are feeling better and we're see ing it in the numbers. i agree that the democrats are going to have to answer the question, why didn't you vote for the tax cut plan? so is that your plan in terms of holding on to the house because we know that history is not on your side right? during the middle of the presidential term usually that party does lose seats. >> only two times since world war ii has the party in power had the white house gain seats 1998 and 2002. i believe at the end of this day , nancy pelosi will not be speaker, republicans will keep the majority, not because we want it to happen because what we have achieved. you are finding that the world is becoming safer, we've made the investments into our military. you have found that we have made
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economic strength. don't discount unemployment below 4% first time in 18 years. that is unbelievable in the stretch of where we're going. 2 million more jobs have been created just in the last year. how many millions of people have got a bonus because of the tax cuts? just think of this, one company gave 1.2 million people a longer maternity leave, but what does nancy think of all that? she thinks that's crumbs and armageddon, but reforming the va , infrastructure, dealing with human trafficking, opioid, these are things that matter to the american public, that's what we're folksed on that's what we'll stay focused on so if you looked at the generic ballot earlier this year, yeah, if the election was in january, they would have won. today, they would lose. maria: wow all right we'll be watching that obviously it's a good story to tell on the economic side and typically speaking people do vote for with their wallet, how am i feeling today am i feeling better than i was two years ago? let me ask you about what you've been working on in terms of the
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spending bill or the recision bill really. you're expecting the white house to send, just congress something this week. where does that stand? >> you first have to understand what does the recision bill allow you to do? we've watched most of this frustration with congress happens in the senate and not with the republicans in the senate but the democrats because it takes 60 votes to do anything when we look to repeal this burden some regulatory world you have a congressional that allows you to pass in the house and senate with a majority. we did that 16 times nobody else did that except one-time. recision is actually a common practice from president ford to clinton. ronald regan did it 214 times bill clinton did it 111 times and what it allows you to do is look at spending, make a cut, pass it with a majority in the house, and 51 votes in the senate. i believe this shouldn't be a partisan idea. it wasn't in the past so let's go, find places that we could have savings. there are accounts that are funded that those programs no
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longer exist, or couldn't be used so why would the money stay there? repeal it and bring it back and so we worked with the president. this is something he's trying to make sure let's cut wasteful spending. i think that should be a bipartisan plan, but watching nancy everything is partisan. maria: but it wasn't bipartisan when you actually had the chance to say no to this and no to planned parenthood and no to somethings else, healthcare you signed the bill so where are the areas to actually cut? can you identify some areas? >> well this is how the program works, omb puts it together, sends it to the house and we have 45 days to act and it takes 51 so they are looking at accounts that have been sitting there that have been funded that programs are no longer existing but the money sitting there. why wouldn't you cut that wasteful spending? if there is a place that we could save the taxpayer money, we should look at that and especially bipartisan but look i asked denny hoyer the other day he said he would look at something like that because they have a history of voting for it but now they're denying
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everything, like trying to deny the president these appointments . there's 1,200 positions that have to be confirmed. if you take the last six presidencies in the first two years there was only 24 votes and today there's 88. maria: wow. >> they are trying to dismantle government in the process they are trying to make the president not successful but do you know what? we are winning in the process and we can keep making sure we're fighting. i don't care if they fight the opioids we will get this done. maria: how do you keep dealing with that though? the constant resist on the other side, this slow-walking of nominees, i mean, i'm actually amazed that this president is able to handle things like north korea, iran deal, and this decision coming up in the face of all of this resistance . is this what it's going to be like the next three years? >> it shouldn't be. the election is over and we should work as one. we should put the people before the politics, but if they continue down this path what they're doing in the senate today it would take 11 years to confirm these people, and all that does is hurt the american public. maria: it's incredible meanwhile on the other side we've been
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talking about this potential abuse of power at the fbi and the department of justice. you heard devon nunes earlier call into fox & friends and you basically said we're done, we are ready now, to pursue contempt of congress charges because you're not getting the documents your committee chairman have asked for. how far are you willing to go with this? are you going to pursue contempt and impeachment charges? >> well first let's actually talk about what we're seeing. it's not just us and it's not just the american people. last friday, a federal judge, t. s. elliott said this to mueller 's investigation, that he does not leave a special prosecutor has the power he or she to do anything they want. unfettered power i think the term he actually used. what they're watching today and what he questioned look everybody wanted to get to the bottom was there any collusion with russia. the millions of dollars spent all the investigation, everybody says there was none. it is time for mueller to end that investigation, everybody sees it and where he's trying to
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draw it to. now it's not just the judge but it's the american public. remember, we have separate but co-equal branches of government. for too long, the doj and the fbi has been stonewalling washington, has been stonewall ing congress. congress has a right to oversee it. devon nunes is chairman of the intel committee, so classified information can be sent to the intel committee, not to the entire body. that is the role that they have but for every time they have stonewalled us we've not given up and when we did get the information, it was very interesting how the information would come forward that people would then start resigning or quitting from these organizations based upon the action that they took place. i think from my point of view is we will not stop because we are separate but co-equal and we will take every process that we have in the power to get the information that we have a right and responsibility to see. maria: there's an op-ed in the journal by kim strassel on friday and she writes the
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credibility of the house's oversight authority is at stake. paul ryan's committee chairman have done remarkable work expos ing fbi behavior and they serve backup. mr. ryan needs to state strongly and publicly that he is about proceeding down the road of contempt of impeachment if house demands are not met. you are likely if you hold on to the house the next speaker of the house. are you going to pursue this? >> yes you have to uphold the power of the separation of power s here. it's not about this issue. it's about congress in itself. we have a right and responsibility. if this is allowed during this investigation it could be ignition else and that's what the judge was talking about last friday. the unfretted power of this individual. that is wrong and these agencies have to have the responsibility to provide the information to congress and it's provided to the republicans and the democrat s. that's the responsibility. look, every two years, the public loans the power to their member of congress to oversee.
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that's the role we have and we have to uphold that power. maria: all of this stonewalling leads to the question what are they hiding? why not just give the documents that your committee chairman have been requesting? >> yeah and if they're claiming it's classified yes don't give it to all of congress but that's why we setup the intel committee so start out. they handle this informational the time because they should oversee that and the rest of congress doesn't see it but that is their role, so they can't hide behind that. maria: yes. >> the other part is it's interesting lisa page leaving now, the inspector general's report is coming soon, the more and more we learn about this, the more we realize one, there was no collusion, two this continues on it should not, these investigations should end the millions of dollars that have been spent and we should get on with the american's business think about this. the president in a few short weeks is going to be sitting down with north korea and south korea. no one thought that was possible a year ago or even beyond. there's a possibility of ending
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the korean war of the thousands of lives that americans have given. let's make this president as strong as he can in that opportunity that we have to make the world safe. maria: well he's been making bold decisions even the idea that he could actually pull out of the iran deal the deadline is coming up may 12 are you comfortable as the majority leader seeing president say do you know what? i'm not renewing this on may 12. >> i'm very comfort comfortable the president is being looking at this. look at what former secretary of state recently said she never would have signed it and said if we pull out, it's not the end of the world right? maria: right. what iran is doing in this agreement why is this so bad, not only did they get billions of dollars, they spent that money fostering terrorism around the world, they can have a nuclear weapon at the end of this agreement, they continue to test their ballistic missiles they are not creating more freedom in this world, someone has to stand up to them and i'm sorry if we pull out of that the size of their economy based upon
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the size of ours, i think europe will follow us before they're concerned about the iranian economy and think about their own revolution inside there. their youth are frustrated with them spending this money around the world fostering and bringing terrorism and unsafe for all of us when they should be focused on their own economy. it's time someone stands up to them. that was a bad deal to start with and history will show that was the wrong agreement and i'm thankful the president is looking at all options. maria: all right we'll leave it there and follow the developments majority leader kevin mccarthy, we will continue this conversation, former attorney general judge michael mukasey joins me next with his take on the doj and the fbi as we look ahead on sunday morning
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attorney general jeff sessions should close the probe, this coming amid pressure from republicans urging the justice department to release the full scope memo which outlines the initial extent of the investigation. joining me right now is judge michael mukasey he's former u.s. attorney general under president george w. bush. judge it's great to see you thanks for weighing in here. >> good to be here. maria: really wanting to get your insights here because there's so many moving parts. first off a turning point perhaps on friday night when we heard from the district judge pushing back on special counsel robert mueller. tell us what we heard on friday and what it means. >> i think what we heard on friday is the fruit of the rather bitter fruit of the fact that this investigation was launched initially, in a flawed way. the regulations require that in order to have a special counsel, it has to be a finding that there is a criminal case to be investigated, criminal case that's got to be, and that there is a conflict, some good reason a conflict or other good reason
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why the justice department can't do it and under those circumstances, what the attorney general or whoever is acting for him in this case, the deputy, is obligated to do, is to tell the special counsel what the crime is and to put fourth a specific set of facts. the memo that was originally drafted appointing robert mueller says that you are to follow-up the questions of russian involvement in the election as testified to by james comey on a particular date before the house intelligence subcommittee. what he testified to was not a criminal investigation. it was a counter intelligencer investigation so right from the get go to say that you're authorized to pursue that investigation is flawed. apparently rod rosenstein realized that at some point later in the game and changed the memo, put in an additional memo supposedly specifying what was being investigated and what the crime was, but we haven't been allowed to see that.
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maria: why not? i mean if the mandate is expanded in terms of what mueller should be pursuing, we all should understand that because we keep calling it this russia probe. >> right well maybe it is a russia probe, but the point is what's the crime and what is the specific set of facts and when the government was asked about that before judge ellis, what the response was oh, this is much too classified for me for us to disclose in open court essential what they're telling the judge is don't worry your pretty little head about it and judges whether they're men or women don't like to hear that. maria: right and this is t. s. e llis, for the first time a pushback against this investigation that's gone so far afield. i think that the judge would be very much within his rights in saying look, you come back in a week and you bring either the letter or the memo that expands the special counsel's mandate, or you bring your toothbrush.
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maria: we're back with former attorney general michael mukasey and judge i want to talk to you and get your take on these questions that were leaked. these are the questions that robert mueller apparently wants to ask trump about obstruction and what it means, some of the questions are things like what was your reaction to news reports of january 12, what did you know about sally yates meetings and then there's one question about an interview that i did with the president and the question was what was the purpose of your april 11, 2017 statement to maria bartiromo and that statement is on the screen, basically, it's me talking with the president
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about james comey after he was fired for breaking the justice department policy. here is a clip from my interview with the president. >> well, because i want to give everybody a good fair chance. director comey was very very good to hillary clinton. that i can tell you. if he weren't, she would be right now going to trial. maria: it's an odd clip that robert mueller is zeroing in on to ask the president about what do you think about these questions and about that? >> well, if the question is intended to ask whether the president wants to suggest to the justice department that it started an investigation or continuing an investigation of hillary clinton, that's not within the mandate, as i understand it, of the special counsel. a number of other of these questions are not within the mandate of the special counsel, or they tend toward determining whether the president had a "
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corrupt motive" in firing james comey, which if we were talking about obstruction could conceivably make an obstruction case but we're not, number one and number two, if we were the president can't be indicted. maria: so once again, these questions indicate how far a field this investigation has gone. first we were talking about collusion. then we were talking about obstruction. now we're talking about payments to stormy daniels. >> which of course have nothing to do with whether the russians interfered. maria: exactly. >> with the 2016 election. that was supposed to be the focus of the investigation. that was supposed to be the reason why jeff sessions recused himself because he worked on the campaign and it was an investigation of the campaign there is a regulation that says that you can't participate in an investigation of a campaign in which you participated in very simple so he was justified in doing that if that was the focus of the special counsel's investigation, but we don't know to this day what the actual focus is because we haven't seen
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that memo. maria: so are we going to be able to see that scoped memo now that we know that rosenstein actually did expand the mandate for which robert mueller is supposed to pursue? >> i don't know whether he expanded it or contracted it he in any event defined it and we should see the memo, whether we're going to be able to or not i guess depends on how robust our system is, if it's robust we'll see it. maria: what's your take on where this is going? these are extraordinary times, judge. you've got the robert mueller investigation that's going all over the place and then you've got an investigation into the handling of the 2016 election by the fbi and the department of justice on that score we're waiting for this ig report which is forthcoming next couple of weeks. do you think we'll see justice? >> i hope that what we will see is the justice at the facts justify and that people will stop dealing with things for reasons having nothing to do with the facts the way for example, james comey did because he had some higher loyalty in
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mind, but rather because of what the facts in the law require. if we get that kind of reaction to the ig report, to this memo of the deputy attorney general then we'll be fine. it depends on how healthy our institutions are. maria: well we see that lisa page has resigned, attorney at the fbi and the department of justice and we see that mr. baker has also. is this a coincidence that the i g report is coming out and we're seeing more resignations? >> i don't know whether it's a coincidence or not we'll find it out when we read the report and even at that point we'll be speculating. i worry less about why they resigned than i do about what we do with what's in the report and particularly what we do to define, specify, and explain the mandate of a special counsel who is whether he's doing the lord's work or the devil's work is interfering with the functioning of the presidency. is that justified?
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we won't know that until we see that memo. maria: it is pretty extraordinary throughout all of this james comey is on a book tour. >> yes, well, james comey is another case. i would suggest that you read his book, i don't want to say with a grain of salt but certainly with a bottle of pepto bismol. maria: because? >> because it is cringe- inducing on every page. there's no story he tells of which he isn't the hero and you can't really reach for a character. people suggested that he's like the inspector in les mis. he's worse than that. he's a combination of false humility, false piety, and false courage. maria: he can't even say that he leaked when we know that when he gave his memos to his friend, who then we learned worked for the fbi he actually leaked them with an intent to get a special counsel in place. >> correct. maria: it's pretty extraordinary
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maria: welcome back the
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department of justice is responding to devon nunes right now. we have breaking news. the department of justice is saying that they have responded devon nunes. he was on fox & friends earlier saying that his latest classified letter to the doj was ignored. the letter from the doj which they are sending spells out the administrations written response says the doj. now basically, devon nunes said that two weeks ago, that he sent a letter to the attorney general jeff sessions a classified letter per usual this is from devon nunes it was ignored not acknowledged completely ignored last week we sent a subpoena and on thursday we discovered they are not going to comply with our subpoena. nunes told fox & friends this is information we need, we need to move quickly to hold the attorney general of the united states in contempt. that is what i will press for this week. also, right now, we want to talk about what's happening with texas congressman john ratcliffe he sits on the house judiciary and homeland security committee and also a former u.s. attorney
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good to see you sir congressman thanks so much for joining us. hi maria. maria: your response to what the doj is saying this morning it says it in fact sent a letter back to devon nunes and said we are in receipt of your letter at the careful satisfaction and following consultations with the director of the national intelligence, the white house and we are not in a a position to provide information responsive to your request. your take on all of this congressman. >> well maria i haven't seen the subpoena that devon nunes is talking about so i don't know if relates to the ec that started the counter intelligence or if it relates to something else. maria: bottom line, are you, will you move to pursue context charges against attorney general jeff sessions as devon nunes stated earlier? >> i think that all members of congress are going to need more information about what the
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request was and what the response from the justice department is. we don't have that. the problem, maria is as you know when congress issues a subpoena, the enforcement arm is the department of justice. the problem is when the subpoena is directed to the department of justice, and they won't comply with the subpoena congress is left with the decision of whether or not to hold officials in contempt and ultimately seek impeachment so it's not a great system but i think before we go to these very extraordinary measures, everyone ought to have a better sense of what both chairman nunes and the department of justice are arguing about. maria: well what tools do you have if you're asking for these documents and you're not getting them and you're seeing that things are being slow-walked and ignored, what's the next move that you can do in order to get justice here as you continue an investigation into the fbi and the doj's handling of the 2016 election? >> and that's exactly the
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problem that we've had, maria and one of the things that i think members of congress will look at in regards to the department of justice's response to chairman nunes is we've seen a number of documents where there has been slow walking or stonewalling for different reasons for various privileges for national security concerns, and the department of justice, where i serve, the department that i love, its hand has been weakened by the fact that as those documents as congress has pressed and those documents have come out, we found that a lot of the information that's been redacted or kept from public view have really reflected more on the department or the fbi and its senior officials and to save them from embarrassment or from potential in fractions or misconduct, so you know, i do think that it's fair to ask these questions. i know that all members of congress hopefully will get that information. we all need to have that information before we would go to the extraordinary measure of
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holding an attorney general in contempt of congress. i certainly need that information. maria: what about this. the federal judge presiding over the paul manafort case congressman he's demanding that robert mueller's team show him the scope of their investigation into the alleged russian collusion. judge t. s. ellis as i was just talking about michael mukasey about with a rebut to the special counsel suggesting that mueller only cares about information manafort may have on the president. this is alan exercise to take down president trump and ellis says mueller should not be given "unfettered power." what do you think this tells us about the special counsel investigation? >> maria the fundamental premise of our criminal justice system that we investigate crime or suspicious activity. we don't investigate people with the intent of uncovering criminal it and it has appeared to many maybe that's what the special counsel was doing with respect to rick gates and paul manafort and potential bank
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fraud in 2005 to create cooperational leverage against this investigation into donald trump. that's exactly the question that this judge raised on friday, and he's the first independent person, to raise this issue and he's said hey, it appears that you're attempting use what paul manafort did in 2005 to get to donald trump in 2018 and i want to see your authority for that. i want to see the jurisdictional basis that you have to even raise these charges interestingly, the special counsel's response was judge you're not entitled to that and the judge not so politely said i'll be the judge of what i'm entitled to and produce it in the next two weeks so we'll see where that goes. maria: well what about this mueller probe? you and i've spoken in the past, it's starting with collusion then it went to obstruction, now we're talking about payments made to stormy daniels this investigation has clearly gone much further afield than we
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thought with the initial mandate of russia collusion. >> yeah, i think that, you know , very clearly, there was a scope for the special counsel to be looking at russian collusion and it has gotten far afield of that. i think the judge in this case interestingly is maybe exercising some oversight that the department of justice hasn't been. i think this can be effectively narrowed down. the special counsel shouldn't be looking at for instance obstruction of justice at this point in time. even setting aside the question of whether or not a president can be charged for something that the constitution authorizes him to do in firing an fbi director, even to the extent you want to look at that james comey through his actions, words and his writing has effectively torpedoed any obstruction of justice charges so the special counsel ought to move on away from that and really look at what the core basis of his
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appointment was which is whether or not there was any collusion between or coordination with the trump campaign and russians. maria: congressman real quick what should we expect from the i g report? this report is forthcoming we're expecting it some time in the month of may. i would expect that what the inspector general is going to find is that former fbi director james comey violated his employment agreement, made multiple unauthorized disclosure s or leaks of information, perhaps classified but at least fbi documents and has made false statements to congress, and perhaps to investigators for the ig, so i will say this. i think that michael horowitz has proven himself to be a fair umpire with respect to calling balls and strikes, he had the courage to make a criminal referral of the deputy director of the fbi. maria: right.
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andrew mccabe so i think if it's warranted that there's any criminality that needs to be referred with respect to james comey or anyone else at the department of justice or the fbi , that michael horowitz will do that, so -- maria: and michael horowitz was supposed to be speaking and testifying in front of trey gowdy's committee the oversight committee but they pushed that back. >> yeah, and i think that's a reflection of the fact that the inspector general is getting more information into the hillary clinton e-mail investigation and perhaps misconduct in how that matter was handled he wants to be thorough and fair, so you know i'd rather wait a week or two to get more information because the more information that the inspector general can provide to congress the moreover site that we can provide and hold folks accountable to the extent that they need to be. maria: all right we will be watching this as kimberly strass
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el wrote in her op-ed in the journal on friday, this puts a real spotlight on the credibility of the house's oversight authority. so we will be watching that congressman. good to see you sir thanks so much. >> you bet. maria: congressman john ratcliffe there president trump meanwhile faces a big deadline this may 12 on the iran nuclear deal what his decision could mean for the united states senator joe lieberman is with me next as we look ahead on sunday mom? dad? hi! i had a very minor fender bender tonight in an unreasonably narrow fast food drive thru lane. but what a powerful life lesson. and don't worry i have everything handled. i already spoke to our allstate agent, and i know that we have accident forgiveness. which is so smart on your guy's part. like fact that they'll just... forgive you... four weeks without the car. okay, yup. good night. with accident forgiveness your rates won't go up just because of an accident. switching to allstate is worth it.
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maria: welcome back president trump's deadline on the iran nuclear deal is approaching now less than a week away. the regime's president rahani is warning this president of " historic regret" should the u.s. pull out of this nuclear agreement this comes amid report that claims former secretary of state john kerry is secretly meeting with world leaders to try to salvage this deal want to bring in former connecticut senator joe lieberman, chairman of the advocacy group united against nuclear iran am former
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democratic vice presidential candidate himself. >> you too, maria. maria: first off what is your sense of where you're going here , you think the u.s. pulls out and what are the implications? >> well i'm encouraged by what the president has said so far and i hope he does pull out because i give you the perspective of somebody who was in the senate for 24 years worked with people in both parties to put sanctions, economic pressure on iran with a singular goal which was to denuclearize iran to stop their nuclear weapons development program and what the obama administration and our allies in europe did was not that. it basically gave way all our leverage against them in return for a pause in their nuclear program, if they're keeping their word which they don't have a good reputation for doing and it gave them $100 billion which they've used to support terrorists and to spread their rule throughout the middle east so it was a bad deal a mistake for us. i think the president really has
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the power to correct that mistake and i hope he does. maria: what are the most egregious parts of this plan? what's the worst about of the nuclear deal and why is it that we need to get out? >> yeah, well the worst part of the nuclear deal is that it didn't really end iran's nuclear program. it's clear that they've got tremendous capacity. they basically put the brakes on for a while to get the economic pressure off of them to get the $100 billion. they can go back and have a legitimate nuclear weapons development program in about 10 years and that's not the security that the world needs. the second is that they have not , the agreement gives the international atomic energy authority the right to inspect facilities all over iran. iran hasn't let those inspectors go on to their military sites which are where they would be cheating if they're cheating and i worry that they are. maria: and of course we've already given them all that money so they're actually giving
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that money to tariffs. yeah, to terrorists and probably hezbollah which continues to kill innocent syrian people. maria: we understand this morning that john kerry former secretary of state is having meetings with the iranians. why is john kerry running around trying to salvage this deal? does that impact the so-called logan act where you're not supposed to be negotiating for the country when you don't have an official role? >> well it's a surprising story , so i'd say this the logan about really hasn't been enforced for a long time. john kerry is not negotiating on be half of the u.s. government, i hope everybody he's talking to knows that but in my opinion what he's doing is inappropriate and he shouldn't be doing it and let's take two former secretaries of state, conde rice who opposes the iran nuclear agreement and hillary clinton who supported it. neither one of them is going around talking to the iranians to the europeans and trying to i guess convince them to not be
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affected by the current trump adminitration. it's a duly-elected administration, so i hope john kerry stops. maria: conde rice joined me this past week and said it's just not a good deal but will the europeans go along with us? >> well i think ultimately they will. they may protest if president trump pulls out of the agreement but you know in the end, what i appreciated about president trump in this case and others, he understands america's strength so he doesn't make decisions based on the worst fears that people say if he does this, the sky will fall and here is what i mean. the iranian economy is oh, four or $500 billion. ours is like 44 trillion so you give the european banking and business community a choice of what to do if we pull out and slap the sanctions back on iran it's no choice. they're going to continue to do business with us and they're going to turn their backs on the iranians and most of the rest of the world will do the same then hopefully the iranians will come
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back to the table and negotiate a total denuclearization of their country and then we can welcome them into the world community. maria: incredible, incredible what's going on and then you've got a north korean meeting coming up senator great to see you. senator joe lieberman we'll b it took guts to start my business. but as it grew bigger and bigger, it took a whole lot more. that's why i switched to the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy. everything. what's in your wallet? proven to protect street skaters and freestylers. stops up to 97% uv. lasts through heat. through sweat. coppertone. proven to protect. yes or no? do you want the same tools and seamless experience across web and tablet? do you want $4.95 commissions for stocks, $0.50 options contracts? $1.50 futures contracts? what about a dedicated service team of trading specialists?
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maria: welcome back we have more breaking news this morning we told you earlier that devon nunes went on fox & friends and said he is ready to pursue contempt of congress charges against attorney general jeff sessions. the doj has been responding and said we did respond to him and devon nunes is saying well, the letter that they sent me said they're not going to comply, so not sure what the doj is trying to prove. they basically are saying we're not going to comply. meanwhile a federal judge has slammed special counsel robert mueller for overreaching want to bring in our panel, the chief
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political correspondent with the washington examiner and fox news contributor james freeman is assistant editor for the wall street journal editor editorial page, good to see you both your thoughts on what's transpiring this morning, james? >> well i think we're seeing this standoff on the nunes and with congress wanting to know exercising its appropriate oversight authority what happened at the fbi, fbi doesn't want to share the documents and i think either speaker of the house paul ryan has got to hold the contempt votes to force disclosure or the president should start declassifying a lot of information that i think all of us as americans want to know about what is pretty foundational to our democracy was the surveillance power of the government inappropriately used in a political attack basically. maria: exactly right, james. byron your thoughts on this it almost feels like somebody is trying to let the clock run out. >> well the problem with this
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specific nunes subpoena is we don't know what he's asking for. you just asked representative john ratcliffe, you know, if he was on board for pushing a contempt citation and he told you well, i need to know what we're asking for. so that's a big problem. we do know though, in the past, that nunes has asked for and subpoenaed information from the justice department and gotten stonewalled and later we find out that there really wasn't a very good reason for it, so the inclination here is to be suspicious of the justice department, but i should say, we don't know what he's asking for. maria: well because we don't know the scope memo, right? i mean, we need to understand better what the mandate was and is for robert mueller and its gone really far afield james? >> yeah and i think this is what's interesting maybe a lot of people didn't expect the judiciary to start holding mr. mueller accountable. it's kind of an odd situation where he's part of the executive branch but he's independent of
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>> lou: good evening, everybody. our top story. most americans are sleepwalking as the nation is taken over by the deep state and fbi and they conpyre to delegitimate is overthrow the president of the united states. and the leaders of both congress and the senate are compliceit as they toad by silently in the face of unrelenting efforts of the trump presidency. the once storied fbi is in crisis. its

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