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good to see you. thank you so much. barry james. that will do it for "the claman countdown." markets will be back open tomorrow. mohammed el-erian, from allianz, the brilliant economist is here. connell, melissa. take it away. ♪ melissa: i like. that never seen that before. that was cool. let's make a deal or not. president trump's plan to end a partial government shut down being slammed as quote a nonstarter. markets are closed for the martin luther king junior holiday. the shutdown enters the fourth week. connell: i saw you at the beginning of the show. melissa: i like that. connell: connell mcshane. this is "after the bell." fears after global slow down as wall street waiting for the opening bell tomorrow.
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here is what is knew this hour. the senate could vote this week on when president trump is calling a compromise to reopen the government. it has been 31 days since the beginning of the longest shut down in federal history. hundreds of thousands of federal employees set to miss their second paycheck this coming friday. pressure is on both lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, to come up with a solution to end the stalemate. plus growing concern at the airport. tsa absences are now hitting a record high. what it could mean for you and our nation's security. it's a little cold outside. melissa: it really is. it really is. connell: even for january. we say it is cold in winter. cold for winter. latest coming up when we see a break from the arctic blast causing record low temperatures pretty much nationwide. melissa: we're not just whining here. it is real. putting an offer on the table president trump proposes protections for the nation's
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dreamers for $5 billion of border security money. blake burman at the white house with details. blake? reporter: melissa, no movement at all for the partial government shut down, there is potential for some as senate majority leader mitch mcconnell says he will put the senate's proposal on the floor of the senate at some point here this week. the president unveiled his proposal over the weekend which he continued to say he wants $5.7 billion in border wall funding. calls for additional security measures like $805 million for drug detection technology along with 2750 border patrol agents, in exchange for three years of legislative extension for daca recipients and those who receive temporary protective status. here is mike pence on fox news weekend on sunday. >> what the president offered a good faith compromise to address what is genuine and humanitarian and security crisis on other
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border and end the government shut down. the senate leadership, senator mcconnell agreed to bring the floor on tuesday, when congress will begin its work. reporter: remains to be seen whether that passes the 60 vote threshold in the senate. that means they will need support of at least seven democrats. it remains to be seen if all 53 republicans will support this, asking some within the republican party, conservative wing of the party, some feel that what the president put forward amounts to amnesty. the president heard concerns over the weekend saying no, amnesty is not part of my offer. it is a three-year extension of daca. amnesty will be used on much bigger deal or immigration or something else. connell, melissa, if somehow it makes its way through the senate, reminder it would go to the democratic controlled house.
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very, very murky how it all shakes out in days and potentially weeks ahead. melissa. melissa: unless everybody decides to sit down and work together. then it could be over in a flash but never mind. blake, thank you. connell: as for the democrats on capitol hill blake was talking about, they essentially rejected the president's proposal, simply calling it more hostage-taking. more on the congressional response, go to fox business network's edward lawrence in d.c. edward. reporter: not holding back, senators talking about the shutdown but not doing nothing about it. democrats brushing off the latest offer of president donald trump not even carrot of three-year extension for daca recipients. those receiving temporary protected status not moving the needle. chuck schumer will not consider a compromise. >> we want the symbol of america remain statue of liberty, freedom, quality, not a divisive wall.
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reporter: the tone turned even more harsh. vocal democrats announced they are running for president in 2020. >> he is now holding the american people hostage over a vanity project that he calls a wall. while 800,000 people are trying to figure out how they're going to pay their rent, how they will pay their mortgage. reporter: senate majority leader mitch mcconnell will test democrats resolve this week, as you heard blake say, senate will bring it up for a vote, as well as other border securities democrats offer, including daca protections then it goes on to the house. that will be the real test. it is expected to pass in the senate. we'll see what happens in the house because now it is democratically controlled. connell: still a ways to go no doubt. melissa: joining me to talk all about that capri cafaro, former democratic minority leader ohio
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state senate. annika green, former bush speechwriter. i will start with you on that note, as a former speechwriter, what would you respond to what has been the democrat's response to the president's offer to sit down talk about the three-year daca fix, other goodies in exchange for money for border security? their response is, not as long as you're holding americans, federal workers hostage, open the government first. how would you respond? >> i would advise him to continue to highlight the evidents he has made to come to the table, to bring up the fact that he ininvited democratic leaders to a bipartisan lunch, they chose not to come. he is trying to find solutions, democrats are digging in their heels. they think mcconnell's move to put the bill on the floor of the senate is important for working together for republicans to show it is not a united congress against the white house. it is really democrats and republicans. melissa: capri, former governor sununu said earlier today what
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he would advise for some political action group put out an ad they played on local stations, not here on cable news but where people are informed, other places where people are not as focused on politics necessarily. they're trying to live their lifts. put one after another. chuck schumer, nancy pelosi, barack obama, asking for the exact same thing, with border security in talking about, you know having a wall, whatever the structure is. would that be effective for republicans to do? >> i think it would do at heat one thing. i think advance the message from the republicans basically saying the only reason why democrats are in opposition this border wall now because something that donald trump wants. they're against everything that donald trump puts forward. i would advance that notion. i do think it is smart for mitch mcconnell as well to bring this to the floor he does have to be careful, he runs the risk of what happened in 2017 with a similar measure came
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forward had daca relief along with money for the wall. it failed because some republicans did not want to come to the table in fear that this might it might send a message regarding support for amnesty. mitch mcconnell better have his votes locked up. that makes democrats in tough position starting to look obstinate. constituents will put pressure on rank-and-file democrats to come to the table. hopefully that is where the impasse will end. melissa: annika, doesn't it look like the president is trying to come up with a solution that he puts forward something that not even all republicans like? isn't that how you get a deal done, you give something you don't want in exchange for something you want? both sides have to walk away they feel like they gave something they didn't want to but got something they really needed? >> right now looking like pelosi is just refusing to negotiate while also threatening things that he cares about, having the state. union address. i think eventually what might
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happen is what we saw with the brett kavanaugh hearings, playing politics will backfire on the democrats if they refuse to even negotiate, like you're talking about. voters will become sick of it, hey, we're done with this let's get things moving. melissa: capri, he set up the thing looking from point of view from the dreamer, wait a second, my party is saying no to make things okay for me, even if they say you have to open the government first, they are saying you're taking side of federal workers over me? do democrats risk alienating folks they're supposed to be fighting for? >> you know it is possible because as you set this up, looks like democrats favor one side or the other. logically i get the fact they want to open the government first. but that was prior to president trump coming forward with some kind of alternative plan that does have a little bit for both sides of the equation. democrats and republicans. so, you know it is one thing to say we passed this bill to open
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the government. mitch mcconnell, you need to do that, because you haven't done it yet, it is your fault, mitch mcconnell not moving a bill. now trump came forward with something he is willing to support, democrats are running the risk of looking very obstinate, looking obstructionist and stay 31 of the shutdown. americans are not being paid, but safety at risk with tsa. melissa: thanks to both of you. we'll see you back here later in the show. >> thanks. connell: meantime a economic slow down in china sending some shockwaves across the globe that nation charting the weakest numbers in 30 years. how this impacts for news the united states. melissa: gearing up for 2020. the field on the left is growing for the day. who has the best shot to take on president trump? connell: federal workers feeling the pain. how missed paychecks hurting american workers. how businesses are finding ways to help them out. ♪
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melissa: china posting the its slowest annual economic growth in 30 years. gdp coming in at 6.6% in 2018. meanwhile the imf cutting its global growth forecast amid higher trade tensions between china. susan li is in the newsroom. that is the latest if you believe the numbers coming out of china? >> melissa, 6.6 sounds great compared to the rest of world, with u.s. growing at 3% and germany at 1%. but the consensus is that china is looking at worse than 6% gdp. that they will lower the forecast to range of 6 to 6.5%. for a economy used to bringing
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double digits for the past 30 years this, is market slowdown especially back half of 2018 the tariffs started to bite in. the tariffs according to "the wall street journal" and their analysis, took away 8% when it comes to gdp. compare that to when 2018 trade accounted for a 9% boost. things that go unreported stimulating their economy. last year they cut reserve ratios to get more money flowing into the economy five times. biggest single day injection of the cash in the banking sim ever. we're talking about $85 billion worth. if that ever happened here, can you imagine the market reaction? now does this make china more susceptible or willing to a china trade deal? bloomberg reported that they were offering a trillion dollars of u.s. goods over next six years to zero. the u.s. trade deficit to china by the year 2024.
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today though, we're getting reports from bloomberg they're still very far apart on structural issues. the fundamental issues of technology, transfers, forced technology transfers and intellectual property protection but with china's economy as you see slowing at its slowest pace in 30 years, some think china might need a deal at this point. that might bode well for the talks expected to extend at the end of this month. guys. melissa: susan li thank you. connell: let's talk more about this, gary b. smith, kadena group president, fox news contributor and lindsey bell, cfra analyst. lindsey, start with the answer everybody wants to know, susan brought it up at the end, slowest growth in 30 years, does that put the chinese in let's make a deal mode you think? >> i think it helps the trump administration positioning in this negotiations for sure. in addition to the "bloomberg news" article about a trillion dollars worth of spending in goods and services from china, you also heard at the end of the week them start
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to talk about investment plans, plans to also help the u.s. with those i.p. thefts and prevent that and also support businesses operating in china from foreign countries so china knows that is a big sticking issue for the trump administration. connell: right. >> seems like they're getting ready to discuss that. connell: i guess the risks though, gary, the chinese continue to do more and do more what they have already started to do, stimulate their own economy. they have haven't gotten all in with that as susan said, they applied some measures of stimulus, but they could do more of that theoretically buying themselves some time but meantime the global economy is slowing and that hurts us as well. it will be interesting to see how they play this. what do you think? >> it is interesting you bring that up, connell that was going to be my exact point. you know, china is much more centrally planned. they have become more capitalistic over the years, but they're still a lot more
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centrally planned than the u.s. we've seen problems here in the u.s., when the fed or the treasury department or whatever, tries to in effect centrally plan the economy that is not easy to do. there is not enough brain power in the world to predict what people want, what people don't want. to your point when i see the government there in china going to be more involved stimulating the economy, i think, oh, my gosh, they're going down a rocky road, pure capitalism is free market way to get them out of this, not pulling ropes, levers, pulleys. that will be a very difficult solution. we've seen that in japan over past 30 years to manage their economy. connell: it has gone on forever. talk about another issue, overseas, great britain determined to bring the will of the people with prime minister
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theresa may bringing a plan b. lawmakers talking about the destructive impact of a possible second referendum. >> i fear a second referendum will set a difficult precedent could have significant implications for how we handle referendums in this country, not least, not least, strengthen the hand of those complaining to break up our united kingdom. connell: prime minister would continue to be with lawmakers open to parliament, the idea, gary, maybe it doesn't go to second referendum you heard her talk there about the criticism of plan b today, from number of places without getting into all the details, it wasn't much different than what plan a was. people are starting to ask questions whether brexit really happens or at least happens on time. what do you think? >> well, i think it, it almost has to happen.
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here is the problem. people went to the polls, in almost a binary node say yes to know to brexit. the parties never put up this is what it means kind of thing. they're still trying to hash that out. this one thing, visions of catastrophe -- connell: on a hard deal. >> london falling into ruin are wildly overblown. connell: the idea if at the don't have deal in place, it will be a real mess economically in terms of ships getting stopped at ports and banks leaving london, all that kind of thing. you may be right, it may be overblown but does it happen? lindsey what do you think happens next year? >> it seems to me really like parliament wants to get their hand in on the deal and want to take control of the process. you heard may say today she does not want to extend the
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negotiating period but seems like parliament will push legislation to push the negotiating timetable down, leave the eu by end of march. connell: right. >> there are a lot of details that need to be figured out here and it seems like more time could be really needed. connell: an extension possibly. gary, lindsay, we appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. melissa: people voted for it f they don't deliver -- connell: on time? you could have some issues in the streets you think? >> seems like it. connell: could be. melissa: rising concerns at the airports. a record number of tsa workers are calling out as they continue to miss paychecks during the government shutdown. uber drivers are feeling the pain. a quiet d.c. is hurting their bottom line in more ways than one. ♪ to your goals and needs. some only call when they have something to sell. fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. and while some advisors are happy to earn commissions
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melissa: record absences due to the government shutdown. more tsa workers are calling out sick as many of them simply can't afford to continue working without pay. hillary vaughn with the latest
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on this hillary. reporter: hi, melissa. tsa is admitting workers are not showing up to work because like many americans they can't afford to work without getting paid. they already missed a paycheck. they're on track to miss a second paycheck this week if the government doesn't reopen. the tsa said yesterday 10% of employees called out. that is compared to 3.1% of employees last year. the tsa openly recognizing a financial strain their employees are feeling, quote, many employees are reporting that they are not able to report to work due to financial limitations. the lack of staff is causing some airports to scale down the security checkpoints. it is bumping up wait lines. you may see longer lines heading to the airport. tsa new orleans airport, standard wait time was 45 minutes. that was the worst wait. minneapolis had a max wait of 35 minutes. at laguardia, they had a max standard wait time of just under half an hour.
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those were the top three highest standard wait times in the country. worker union that represents tsa members, many live paycheck to paycheck, on the lower end of the scale for all employees. food banks are set up. they are reaching out to help the workers as well. >> amazing they can't come together to find a solution. there you go, hillary. connell: speaking of impact government shut down is trickling down to uber. drivers from the ride-hailing company are not only missing out on fares because fewer government employees are not working but facing more competition. furloughed workers are driving for uber to make an income. there are more drivers out there. you never think of it. melissa: you think of second and third things that happen. the 2020 presidential field is even growing larger. the latest faces entering the race. their chances against president trump. plus issuing a warning to the
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>> i love my country. i love my country. and i feel a sense of responsibility to stand up to fight for who the best we are. and i'm prepared to fight. and i know how to fight. connell: kamala harris holding a news conference earlier today in
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the day. held a news conference at her alma mater, howard university, becoming the fourth democrat to announce straight up she is going straight in for run for the presidency. no exploratory committee or anything like that. she is in. tulsi gabbard, new york senator kirsten gillibrand as well. they are all officially in the race. there will be many more to come and many more to talk about. meanwhile other 2020 hopefuls, candidates, attending mlk events. out on major stages, whether new york or beto o'rourke in colorado, so they spread out with expected 378 days now before the first primary/caucus which will be scheduled for iowa. the iowa caucus is february 3rd, of 2020. get ready. capri cafaro is with us again
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and annika green. talk about kamala harris. this was a big day with her announcement. people looking at this from a analytical standpoint, can these candidates challenge president trump? does kamala harris strike you as someone who could potentially beat donald trump in 2020? >> i think she potentially could, trump said he is looking forward to beating her. she is definitely angling setting up a presidential campaign. we saw that in the fall, was very aggressive with candidate's candidate to be seated on supreme court, brett kavanaugh, very much playing up her background as former prosecutor which may end up being a liability for her. connell: in the primary. which is what is interesting about that, capri. we talk about all the time whether democrats go too far to the left, is that a risk. in the primary it is not, to annika's point. if you're kamala harris you can't afford to be considered
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god forbid a centrist, that might help you in the general election but not in the primary. she is far to the left on her tax plan, economic plan, that we saw today, most social issues but what the fact she is former prosecutor? >> you bring up this pendulum swing of where people have been on the issues. i mean take a look at kirsten gillly brand from new york. who was a centrist from upstate new york and now drastically changed her positions to be better aligned with the more far left-leaning of the democratic party base. the risk there, this is my concern as a democrat, number one, we are going to have a field that is too crowded and it is going, everybody will cannibalize one another. so who may come out of the primaries may not necessarily be the kind of candidate that could actually compete with president donald trump in a general election that is the risk of any primary. could you have the base, whether democrats or republicans come out in a primary.
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you may get a more conservative or more liberal nominee through that process. but democrats are at risk here. connell: almost to that point, guys, there is at least one high-profile figure reportedly mulling an independent bid for the presidency, former starbucks ceo howard schultz. we heard about him potentially running for years. democrats in his home state of washington not happy at all with the idea, warning that he would only split the anti-trump vote. capri that is almost one of the points here that we look at, someone like howard schultz running for years potentially as democrat but what if he runs as an independent. >> it's a problem for us. i have two words the ralph nader. connell: did not take much. >> frankly same thing with ross perot in 1992 cost george h.w. bush. bill clinton won with less than 50% of the vote. i think it would be a great democratic candidate if he chose to run as a democrat. said he is lifelong democrat.
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he said he is concerned that the party has gone too far to the left. but if he runs as an independent, it will be a problem for democrats, not republicans. connell: potentially annika, at least one candidate, off top of my head would fit the profile, former new york city mayor mike bloomberg who could run as a democrat, would he be issue for president trump? his issue is getting through the primary if we talk abouted. >> if he runs as democrat he looked at running independent in 2016,. connell: no path to victory. >> maybe if he ran this time as democrat. people would have to think about the issues and listen to the candidates. he would have to make it through the nominating process. connell: is that the profile that should scare trump supporters? is there a profile of a type of candidate you're thinking about? >> i'm not sure that at this point, president trump's approval ratings are dropping with the base because of the government shutdown and perhaps he is too quick to negotiate
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about security. perhaps somebody who, a democrat came forward, i care about security too would be more along those lines. bloomberg might be the person. connell: the idea he could be primaried is still out there for president trump. do you think that happens, president trump. >> i have two words. john kasich. connell: you think he runs? >> no. not in a primary. connell: it doesn't hurt the president. presidents who lost running for re-election, jimmy carter, president bush, senior. they have been primaried. capri, annika, thanksboth of you. good discussion. melissa: day 31 and counting, federal workers bracing for another missed paycheck if lawmakers can't find common ground to reopen the government for business. how one group is helping americans caught in the middle of the fight. that's next. ♪ liberty mutual. they customized my insurance, so i only pay for what i need.
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connell: feeling the pinch. hundreds of thousands of federal workers really struggling with
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the financial toll of the government shut down. now in day 31. kristina partsinevelos in the newsroom with more. reporter: this friday could be potentially the second lost paycheck for a lot of federal workers as the shutdown continues. the latest, fda commissioner over the weekend they could bring back more furloughed workers. over the past few days they brought back 135, 140 people to look at high-risk food. they're willing, paraphrase, tweet on the screen, they're willing to bring back even more workers. if you're wondering high-risk food, that is seafood, dairy products, infant formula. non-risk food would be cookies, crackers people buy. it is overall affecting 800,000 employees. it is affecting contract workers and their salaries do vary. if we're looking at just a scale, we'll show you this graph in regards to how it varies across the board. on average according to "the new york times," federal workers are losing out $5,000 so
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far in wages. i decided to pick just four categories you're seeing on the screen, sec being highest paid. they're missing out over 12 1/2 thousand dollars. nasa in the mix at 8,000. the department of homeland security, a little below $6,000 in lost wages. airport screeners are at at bottom end of the spectrum. that is important when they're losing wages it affects lower income wages a lot more. you're seeing that $2700. more studies show americans live paycheck to paycheck, the average credit card debt over $8,000. many federal workers need to start using food banks that are available, companies giving away freebies across the board. even the small business administration organization that provide loans to entrepreneurs can't even do so. it is having an effect across the country, now that this enter ad period we've never seen before. ones winning? pawn shops, payday loans.
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connell: that makes sense. kristina, important information. we'll see you at the top of the hour on "bulls & bears." we look forward to that. melissa. melissa: one organization is helping out workers, the world central kitchen. they're offering free meals to 800,000 workers not receiving a paycheck. executive direct are to have world central kitchen joins us now. thanks so much for joining us. can you tell us how you guys got started in? how did the idea come about? >> absolutely. world central kitchen is non-profit kitchen found by chef an dress and we worked around the united states and after the world in disasters. in emergency periods after a hurricane, wildfires in california we have worked recently in north carolina and florida this year. and also internationally in guatemala and indonesia after the tsunamis and you know, we tend to work in natural disasters but now we're facing a bit of a different type of disaster and that is a man-made
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one. as the shutdown was going on, we saw the need for, you know, for food, people were really struggling to put food on the table for their families, we felt compelled to activate because this is what we do. melissa: so, nate, i was looking on social media because i follow you on twitter and some other spots and you had, you know, some great features on the front of "the new york times" and people responded by saying in some places, you know, these are not people who look like they need a free meal based on how people were dressed or what they looked like. it kind of speaks to how it is hard for people in the rest of the country to relate to federal workers who have good, solid jobs and have benefits and stuff and then they don't understand how they could suddenly need food. talk to me about what, circumstances of some of the people that are coming in, what they say to you, just so the rest of the world can understand. >> absolutely. i think there is a big misconception around how many of
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our federal workers are paid. reality is they're not all very high-paying jobs. these are individuals who are making enough to survive on monthly basis to pay their mortgage or their rent, put food on the table for their families. there are many, many federal jobs that are not very high-paying and folks are living paycheck to paycheck. which means when you miss a paycheck, it becomes very difficult. you also have credit card debt. you have student loans that have to be paid off. these things really start to add up, and you know, we really weren't sure what to expect when we opened our kitchen in washington, d.c. we thought we would see 2,000 people come in through the first day. we saw well over 4,000. on friday we saw 6500 people come through. i expect numbers will be even high they are week. that is just here in washington, d.c. there are federal workers that are impacted really across the country. we're hearing stories of folks who are really struggling right
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now. melissa: yeah. >> you know, they still do have to feed their families at the end of the day. and you know, for the first times in their life they're standing in line to get a handout for a plate of food. it is really tough on them. it is tough on their families. it is really having a toll, knock-on toll on businesses that rely on these consumers as well. melissa: you have a great policy, if you have a politician wants to come down to volunteer, make them come with a member of opposite party. that makes sense. you don't want people stopping by for photo-op. they have to pitch in to reach over to the other side. my family and i were working at church kitchen yesterday. it is totally different scene. homeless people that are really freezing. do you have others come in as well or just for federal workers? >> right now we're really focusing on those that are impacted directly by the shutdown. obviously we'll never turn anyone away if they need a hot plate of food.
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there are incredible organizations already doing work out there for the homeless and working poor. melissa: that makes sense. >> you know it at the end of the day, i think food is one of those things, food doesn't have politics. you know it is not partisan. you know food is something in facts that brings people together and one of the things that we really hope perhaps, you know, by opening this kitchen, especially here in washington, d.c., on pennsylvania avenue an inviting members of congress on both parties to come down is to perhaps share a meal. to really talk about the situation because the impact is real. we hear the stories every single day. >> i want to tell everybody, world central kitchen. find it online. a lot of people asked me how they can help these families who are having trouble eating during the shutdown. you guys are one great way to do it. thank you for coming on. appreciate your time. >> thank you so much. connell: impact is real. as he says, boy a tough situation for a lot of people. we'll talk about the weather in a moment. it is actually the coldest air
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connell: we are seeing dangerous weather, way below freezing temperaturewise, pretty much across the entire nation. how long will this chilling weather last? let's go to paul williams, the accuweather meteorologist joins us now with the forecast. paul? >> the bottom line it will stick around a little longer than you like, like a relative stops in for christmas still around in january, that kind of unease it
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what we're experiencing because this arctic blast is the coldest of the season. i want to just share with you, how crazy cold it is. we're looking at portions of upstate new york, 30 below or worse, like 40, 50 below according to the accuweather real feel. we're looking basically the northeast in general feeling like 30 below in the first place. that is where we start of the rest of tonight. will it stick around tomorrow? yeah. we'll not only have problems with the temperatures but we're having problems with blowing snow. the bottom line we're looking severe blowing and drifting occurring with gusty and frigid winds. a combination of things, with winds, lower temperatures, that is one problem, but winds are out of the northwest. there is no moisture. lack of moisture making the wind more cutting on your skin and more uncome for thible with exposed skin. looking forward we have another storm system headed our way. but on wednesday it will reach the northeast, more of a ice concern than a snow concern because we're looking for
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widespread icing throughout new york, pennsylvania, along the east coast, into virginia, northern virginia, excuse me western virginia, going into western portions of north carolina. we do have concern for snow out to the west. in fact going into the rest of the evening looking for six to 12 inches of snow through portions of colorado, utah, southeast of salt lake city and throughout the northwest corner of wyoming. so that is going to be problematic for the folks there. as we go into tuesday, we're looking for another push of a rain system bringing heavy showers along the i-5 corridor but still afternoon evening snow as you move further inland. connell: paul, thank you, sir. thank you to the extent we can thank you for that. like his analogy, by the way if a relative sticks around from christmas to the 21st of january, that is a long time. melissa: all right. rushing to judgment. new fallout after a controversial buzzfeed report saw a rare review by the special counsel. was the media too quick to
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melissa: special prosecutor robert mueller's office disputing the report that president trump instructed michael cohen to lie about plans for a potential trump tower project in moscow and now details are emerging about the viral incident surrounding a kentucky high school student and a native american veteran at a rally in d.c. is this all a call for us just to take a breath and step back before rushing to judgment? here now is joe concha, media reporter for the hill. joe, first of all, a lot of folks had pause about that original buzzfeed report. we of course they were the ones that published the dossier when other people were too smart to go near it because it wasn't verified by anything. they're still standing behind this, and saying our reporting
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will bear out even though the special counsel has said it's for sure definitely not true, we do not have any documents or texts or e-mails to support this what's your take on that? >> well right, melissa no other news organization could independently verify the claims and that usually happens in these situations. melissa: at all. >> right exactly so it was on friday, if you turned on cnn, there's anthony cormea, one of the two reporters on this buzz feed story and he tells the anchor that we have not seen the evidence that we said is in the story that says that cohen was directed by president trump or at that time, yeah, president trump to lie before congress so okay but we're standing by our sources. okay, fine. then you go to msnbc and jason l eopold, the second reporter on the story who has big spots in the past, karl rove will be indicted he said in 2006 he says they had seen the evidence so
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they'd couldn't even corroborate their own stories and now leopol d isn't doing any interviews hasn't been heard from three days on twitter. here is what i know if i worked on a story like this that could bring down the presidency i'd be defending the hell out of it instead you can't find the guy because he knows he's caught lying or he has to contradict the reporter he worked on the story with. melissa: so this kentucky student in this viral encounter that he had in retrospect you go back and you look at some of the things that reporters and public people, not just i mean there's the mob online who goes after someone like this, and threatens them, then there's responsible people who kind of should know better who went on to really really ugly things, his face is punchable or something like this people you know and you kind of thought you respected saying things that really are awful, and you know, does this kind of give us all pause as the online
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mob to maybe stop before you respond, tweet forward? what do you think? >> you would think that the people running certain networks, when like for instance the cnn political analyst deleted a tweet after suggesting that the kid should be punched in the face. this is somebody that is like on television suggesting these sort of things and then of course we had to backtrack because video has shown much different things but congress and john yarmouth, he says i am calling for a total complete shutdown of teenagers wearing make america great hats until we figure out what's going on they seem to be poisoning young minds what the heck is that? fascism, he later says he was joking, the tweet is still up though so obviously he's standing by it so to speak. it's disgusting. melissa: everyone take a breath, joe concha, thank you so much for that. he took a breath right there. all you have to do is feel stupid once, you know, like pile on and have it come back later and then maybe it teaches you.
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connell: i agree 100% right and a good reminder by the way it's easier when someone else feels stupid to remind you, but it's a good reminder for all of us. melissa: that does it for us. connell: bulls & bears starts right now. david: democrat leadership rejecting president trump's plan to end the partial government shutdown as the costs continue to mount. we'll take you live to capitol hill for more on where things stand right now. that's right, because we are live today, and the reason for that is there's a lot of big news here, and abroad. you can count on fox business to bring it to you no matter whose taking the day off like our competition. this is bulls & bears we're glad you to join us i'm david asman joining me we have liz peek, jonathan hoenig, christina partsinevelos and carry kaltbaum on day 31, according to numbers from the white house we've lost more than a half a percentage point of our gdp for the quarter


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