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>> he got a pie. come on, obama. at least throw it at a puma! >> bret: don't forget the dick cheney special tonight 10:00 eastern time and i'll be anchoring "fox news sunday" this weekend for chris. abou busy around here. thank you for inviting us into your home. that's it for this report. fair, balanced and unafraid. 3: eastern, 12:00 pacific and "the fox report." coming up next, the factor. >> the o'reilly factor is on. tonight -- >> we can reverse the recession but over the last six months, we've had a run of bad luck. some things that we could not control. >> president obama said that it's bad luck that's causing all of our economic problems. is he counting on luck to get us out of this mess? >> i don't need luck! i need a miracle! >> charles krauthammer has some thoughts. >> i tell people, i say one of the quick ways you can tell the difference is, you know, he's a yale graduate and i'm a texas a&m graduate.
>> there doesn't seem to be any love loss between texas governor rick perry and former president bush. karl rove will be here to set the record straight. they picked a successor to usama bin laden. guess what, he was blown up by an american drone. >> and are al-qaida terrorists on a jihad to hurt david letterman? geraldo is investigating. >> caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. >> hi, everybody. i am monica crowley in tonight for bill o'reilly. thank you so much for watching us. let's get right to our top story. another awful week for the american economy. today, the dow dropped another 170 points losing more than 14% for the month. to make matters worse, citigroup
and j.p. morgan chase slashed their growth outlook for the u.s.a. so it doesn't look like the economy is going to be turning around any time soon. you may remember that more than a year ago, the obama administration promised they would be creating a half a million jobs every month. but after spending trillions of dollars and with the economy on the brink of another recession, here's what the president is saying now. >> we had reversed the recession, avoided the depression, got the economy moving again, created two million private sector jobs over the last 17 months but over the last six months, we've had a run of bad luck. some things that we could not control. >> fox news analyst charles krauthammer's latest syndicated column in "the washington post" examines the "bad luck." charles joins me now from washington. great to see you, charles. welcome. >> good to see you. thank you. >> so charles, in obama's blame
roulette so far, we have seen him blame president bush, the tea party, a dysfunctional washington, the japanese tsunami, the arab spring, atm's, the internet, bad luck, and bigfoot. now, ok, i just made up big foot but he's pretty much blames the bad economy on everything except his own bad policies. >> well, he promises hope and change but never told us, you know, it was bring the bad luck. look, i mean, it's rather pathetic for a president. you elect a leader to deal with them and master them if she or he can but not to go around whining and complaining about events. dealing with events is what a leader does. and, you know, luck is the residue of design and obama had a very specific design for the american economy. the trillion dollar stimulus which left a trace, and this
blanket of operations, sort of the burst of regulatory zeal that we have seen everywhere which is essentially shut down our energy industry that could be a source of economic growth and of jobs and even so much as trying to shut down the new expansion of the boeing plant in south carolina at the behest of unions which is bringing prosperity and jobs into that area. so i mean, it's clear that his policies have failed so what he does is he strikes out at two things. luck, bad luck and i also would add bad faith. it's the republicans in congress who he says over and over again, he said it on the trip he had in the midwest are not interested in country. interested only in party. everything is politics. everything is elections, republicans, he gives them no credit for actually having a belief in smaller government, less spending, less regulation. he thinks all they want is power. and as a result, they shut down
washington and thus, the bad faith of his opponents meaning no interest in real change or improvement. only in their own -- in their own interest is the cause of the stagnation in washington. and i guarantee you, if you listen to any of his campaign speeches from now until election day, all of the accusations, all of the charges, all of the excuses will fall into those two categories. bad luck, stuff out of my control and bad faith by republicans who are essentially in his accusations acting unpatriotically. >> charles, as you point out, these policies have been quite deliberate from the beginning. this administration has spent us into a coma and over the last nearly three years, we have run their big government, big spending experiment and now we see the results. staggeringly high unemployment, a housing sector still in collapse. inflation rising. manufacturing sliding and basically nonexistent gdp growth and yet, this president seems
congenitally unable to admit that his far left approach has failed. >> well, i don't expect he ever will and i think he can't continue to campaign on the fact that he has these designs that we -- we heard that soundbite and then all of a sudden, six months of bad luck and a republican opposition that cares only about election. what's ironic and hypocritical about that charge is you ought to credit the other side at least with principles and ideas. he believes in equality. he believes america ought to be more like europe with a levelled society and he pursues it. the republicans have a different idea of a limited government but he won't credit them with actually having an idea, instead what he does is he accuses them
only about election and the reason it's not only a vial charge but a laughable one is because the republicans earlier this year voted in the house of representatives to radically reform medicare. it would be a tremendous electorate among many of those republicans and could cost republicans the control of the house. it was done for the country, for the national interest and to save our economy knowing it could cost them their political lives. and on the other hand, obama who accuses the dm of having no principles, he hasn't proposed a single change in entitlements which everybody knows it needs for our economy to be saved, not a single one in 2 1/2 years in office. >> absolutely, charles. i agree with you and you know,
about two years ago, president obama said of the economy, he said give it to me, bring it on. than going out laughing saying sock it to me. you know what? they did. when he gives us yet another address on jobs. >> he'll go for the usual. it will be the same approach but a mini stimulus. he'll try once again but it will be coupled with the acknowledgment about debt so here's what he's going to say. spend now, cut later. spend now for growth. cut later for the debt. i can assure you that he'll want to spend, the cutting in the future, i don't believe a word of it. >> thank you so much. great to see you. >> his latest column focuses on how he's handling the economic
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to a double digit lead against mitt romney in a rasmussen poll but some people think he's put his foot in his mouth a couple of times and may not be the strongest candidate to go up against president obama. with us now, the architect of president bush's two winning campaigns, karl rove. karl, great to see you in person. >> thanks for having me. >> nice to have you here, the once sleepy republican presidential race just got a lot more lively. let me ask you about the texas governor rick perry who seems to have just put a lot of jazz into this race. has his entry essentially turned this into a two man one lady race? >> right now, it is. but remember, this race is so fluid, i think there's a not romney primary and then romney so it's right where should we have more? jumps him into the front here, i don't know, but it's a very fluid -- far more fluid than any i've ever seen. >> now, governor perry has not been on the national stage
before. he's not run a national campaign but you're down there in texas for a long time. what do you expect to see out of him? >> a lot. handled his first two races and his first he upset the democrat who led the ticket four years previously and then off to an energetic start. he very broadly announced, overshadowed if not dominated the iowa straw poll and then on sunday, after michelle bachmann had a bump coming out of win the straw poll, both of them were in the same place at the same time, the blackhawk county lincoln day dinner in waterloo, iowa and he took her to school. he showed up early. he shook every hand and walked around and went to every table, posed for every picture. gave a good talk. afterwards hung around until they started to turn out the lights and mop up the floors, she on the other hand sat out on a bus outside the hall, came in just before she spoke.
after she spoke, she stood on the stage and awkwardly autographed t-shirts and tossed them into the crowd below. that wasn't a good day to that in iowa where they put a high premium on campaigning and as a result, this is the last time she's probably going to do that. >> you've worked for president bush and been around the bush family for a long time. is there such a rivalry? if so, how do you expect it to play out? >> there's not between the two men. i mean, president bush, you know, when he was governor moved heaven and earth to get rick perry elected lieutenant governor. he raised money outside of the state. he set up an elaborate phone bank that called millions of texans to identify the people who were for him and undecided in the lieutenant governor's race so the perry campaign could work him over. in 1998, president bush 41, senior bush was the most popular figure in the state of texas. he cut two television ads that year endorsing candidates. his son jeb running for governor of florida and rick perry, the final ad in this campaign
encouraging texans to vote him lieutenant governor. it was his interest to have a republican lieutenant governor so i think this is a lot of people that may be in the perry camp or around perry, it's not rick perry. >> now that we've put that rest -- >> something tells me we haven't put it to rest. incidentally, i want to go back to something you said earlier about perry not having -- having what it takes to be a presidential candidate. we don't know the answer to that yet. on paper, he does. on paper, mitt romney does. on paper, michelle bachmann does. the interesting thing is in the next five months, we're going to learn whether or not they do. now, look, perry made a mistake in my opinion by calling, you know, the chairman of the federal reserve board guilty of, you know, a crime punishable by death. treason. >> he said almost treasonness. >> almost treasonness. >> so he's almost guilty of a crime punishable by death but look, everybody gets -- there's a learning curve. >> and obama certainly has a learning curve in his first year when he was running.
>> exactly. everybody gets a mulligan. important thing is not to do it. i thought it was very smart. you'll notice the next day "the new york times" tried to bait him into repeating the charge and he said i stand by my criticism of the fed but he very smartly didn't repeat the charge. >> i think he's the real deal and he set this race on fire. ok, looking at the current top tier of g.o.p. candidates, which one of them do you think is the strongest match against barack obama? who do you think could defeat him? >> look, here's the deal. we don't know. every is going to have an instinct. everybody is going to have a prejudice. that's the interesting thing about this contest. think about this. a majority of republicans are undecided or not for the top three candidates. we've never seen anything this fluid this late in the game. and it's because i think republicans are so intent upon winning that they're sitting there saying we better get this thing right. i don't want another 1996, i don't want another 2008. let's see how these people perform so they've gone from being voters to like being olympic judges and they're judging everything that these
candidates do. it's like tim pawlenty who is a wonderful governor of a purple state. won twice in circumstances where republicans don't normally win. has a great conservative record. when he failed to take on romney in the second debate, every -- you know, lots of republican primary voters said bad form, didn't do what i expected him to do. going to downgrade him. i think that's how they're looking at all these candidates. so it's going to place a high premium on the candidates. perry didn't create a problem for herself and michelle bachmann didn't create a problem unless they repeat it. >> do you think anybody else will get in this race? i know they have until november before they have to file for the earlier states. do you think this field will expand? governor christie, governor palin and congressman ryan? >> november 1st is for like new hampshire. i checked, actually, october 14th is the drop date. that's the michigan primary, one of the early primaries, that's the earliest date. they have two months to think about this.
palin's schedule after labor day, the week after labor day looks suspiciously like a candidate's and then the other day she came out and said, if nobody emerges that i have confidence in, i may toss my hat in the ring and i don't know about paul ryan and chris christie but i do know talking to people who have been talking to them, there is some very strong encouragement for them to think about it. these people this their conversations get the sense that both of them will take some time and take a look at it. >> we ain't done yet. >> we may not be done yet. we may be done yet. we may not be done yet. this is going to be an interesting contest because it's going to engage us every step of the way and we're not just looking at it as disinterested. >> that's what we need. we want healthy competition for the g.o.p. nominee. great to see you. thank you. coming up, which republicans do the democrats want to face in 2012? we have rove's perspective. we'll get theirs coming up next. with 14 million americans looking for work, president obama promises to reward illegal immigrants who may be taking
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>> continuing with our conversation of president obama blaming the economic mess on "bad luck" and our analysis of the g.o.p. president shall contest. let's bring in two democrats for their view fortunately jo. joining us from washington is margie o'meara and a former senior advisor to john kerry's presidential campaign. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> let's begin with you. thousands of people lined up yesterday in atlanta at a jobs fair braving the suffocating southern heat in their suits and their heels just trying to get some face time with somebody who might give them a job. this is the obama economy.
is this what hope and change has brought? >> well, i think the economy is in rough shape because obviously, the job numbers are in rough shape. that's where people are hurting. i think the numbers are higher than what you said in your intro in terms of people out of work. trouble is that corporate america is sitting on a bunch of cash in their balance sheets and not willing to hire because it's a lot of volatility in the stock market so i mean, i struggle that the president is getting the responsibility of the bad times and the good times and all presidents do but i think it's hard to say that the president's opponents feel that the president shouldn't be in the business of tinkering with the private sector to create jobs but they want to blame them when there aren't enough jobs. i think they're a little bit disingenuous when you move those numbers. we spent the summer having a false fight. the tea party decided to have an argument with the congress about a debt ceiling limit that gets raised all the time about making tough decisions about spending cuts and they didn't spend the summer figuring out how to get the economy moving again and get
jobs back on so that's why people are so ticked off. >> aren't you willing to at least concede that the massive amount of spending that this administration and the democratic congress has done in adding $4 trillion to the national debt has produced nothing but bad economic news, high unemployment, housing a mess. inflation rising. nonexistent gdp growth. i mean, for all of these trillions that have been pumped down into the system by the fed and spent by this government, we are in a miserable economic situation and yet, the president doesn't seem to want to take any of the blame or any of the responsibility for this. >> well, i don't think the president made spending decisions that he stuck with from 10 years ago. i mean, the cost of being in the wars that we're in have compounded over a decade, the debt ceiling has gone up not just by the spending decisions that this congress made or the one the year before but it's a cumulative effect but it takes a cumulative effort to get out of the problem as well. you saw at the ames debate where
every single republican candidate said if you could come up with 10 times the amount of spending cuts for one increase on the richest people, $1 increase, they all raised their hand and said they wouldn't take that deal. when you're dealing with an environment when people won't take a 10-1 deal, how can you expect anybody to get anything done? >> right. margy, the american people, it's not that they're not taxed enough. it's that washington spends way too much money. so if you guys think -- that you concede that we're in an economic mess and that something needs to be done to fix it, margy, what are you guys proposing here to fix it? >> well, i think there's a real -- the american people see a real difference between blame and responsibility and if you look at polls from just the last few months, you'll see that more people, more americans blame president bush and blame wall street than blame president obama and also fox did its own poll this month that show more people felt that the president in the debt debate was trying to put politics aside and really trying to come to the table with an agreement.
>> you're not suggesting that this is all president bush's fault or the republican congress. i mean, we heard time and again throughout the debt debate that the republicans only control 1/2 of 1/3 of the government. democrats control the white house and the senate. so let's not go back to president bush. let's deal in the here and now. these policies have created this mess so now you guys, talk about how you would fix it. >> i think there are a few things. one, these aren't my words. they're the words of the american people in poll after poll after poll and i think president obama said a few times and i agree and i think michael would agree the buck stops with him. voters are going to hold him responsible for the economy but i look back and i remember 2008 and before obama was elected, before he took office, and he had banks closing. you had insurance companies failing. you had car companies that are about to go under. >> we're dealing in the here and now. >> those issues are still -- >> that's what the election is going to be about and if the left is going to continue to argue on the point of
yesteryear, this is about obama's economy. that's what we're talking about now and it's the only solution that you guys have, michael, is to spend more, i'm telling you, you're going to lose next year. the american people -->> i didn't hear michael say that. >> listen, you guys have not offered me a solution yet. what's your solution to the jobs crisis and the debt crisis? >> ok, well, so at the core of your argument, monica, is the fact that if taxes were to be raised, then that would be a big problem. the problem is that taxes on the highest individuals are at some of the lowest rates ever and we have a 9.1% unemployment so the whole argument that the lower taxes are, the better the economy goes, we're sitting in this economy now with some of the most historically low taxes that people have ever had. i'm not saying you should just willie nilly raise people's taxes but there's a 10-1 deal on the table to cut spending by $10 for every dollar that you raise on people who make over $250,000 or $300,000 and close a bunch of corporate loopholes, does the oil industry need $10 billion a year to make sure it moves along, that's one of the most richest mature industries.
we don't need that anymore! those things should be on the table. those are sacred cows in the republican party and that's the challenge you have in the congress. >> if you want to get the economy going, though, you have to lower tax rates, close the loopholes and reduce the spending burden. you have to work with both of those in tandem or you're never going to get the economy going. i have to leave it there. thank you so much. thanks a lot. plenty more ahead as "the fac r factor" moves along this evening, the obama administration says it's going to stop deporting hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants. is this about fairness or is this the president trying to get latino votes for 2012 and is aruba the place to go if you want to get away with murder. geraldo rivera examines the evidence of another american evidence of another american motorcycles, boats, even rv's. nobody knows where he got his love for racing. all we know is, it started early.
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also controlled the house and the senate, they chose not to do it. but now the 2012 election is right around the corner and the president must have hispanic support to retain power. the administration yesterday announced that it would halt deportations for some illegal aliens. amnesty advocates say this might allow many of the 300,000 illegals who currently face deportation to get a pass. joining us now from washington, dr. steven camaratta, the director of research at the center for immigration studies, a group opposed to illegal immigration and here in new york, susan church, an immigration attorney who supports the president's actiti lcome to you both. >> thank you. >> let me begin with you. so obama took the one thing that he was actually doing right on illegal immigration which was ramping up deportation and just stopped it this week. is this new policy in effect amnesty? >> it's administrative amnesty. for example, he had already said in june, they announced there
were a whole categories, probably millions of illegal aliens that they weren't going to arrest anymore. people who were relatively young, if they had u.s. born children, that sort of thing. now, this is a continuation. this says that the 300,000 who are currently in removal proceedings, that is being deported, we're going to take a fresh look and most of them, they're going to let go as well and even allow them to apply for work authorization. so yeah, it's basically lawmaking by judicial fiat. this didn't go through congress. this wasn't passed into law but in effect, it goes around the law and he's using his authority as president to essentially make law and it's a kind of lawlessness and it's an administration amnesty, plain and simple. >> when i took a look at this, the categories that the illegal immigrants that would fall under this have to fall into certain categories but they seem really wide. in other words, you're illegal but you're attending school in the united states or you're a primary caregiver for somebody
in your family who is sick or you have somebody in the family who serves in the u.s. military. that seems like a huge hole through which to drive a mac truck. >> yeah, you're looking at somewhere between two to five million illegal immigrants who now, by judicial fiat, the law says these individuals are in the country illegally. we have a little wiggle room in the law for special cases and about 5,000 people a year qualify for the cancellation of removal but this is something completely different. this is saying whole huge categories of millions of people, we are now not going to be enforcing the law on, where not only that, we're going to give them work authorization. it's a kind of amnesty, an administrative amnesty that's going to affect a violation of the rule of law. bottom line, you could argue for amnesty. that's fine, the president is free to do that. you go through congress, get it passed and signed into law. that's not what happened here. we're short circuiting the whole system. >> susan, we're either a nation of laws or we're not. so why is this administration, then, rewarding the illegal acts
of entering the country in violation of our laws? >> first of all, it's funny that you say the term two million because there's only 300,000 immigrants currently in deportation proceedings and believe it or not, sometimes it's actually difficult to get into deportation proceedings so this only applies to an extremely small numbers of immigrants. no one with any criminal history whatsoever will be included. the categories are even more narrow. >> to enter the country illegally, doesn't that make them a criminal? >> no, that's a misnomer. >> so entering the country illegally is not a criminal act. that's a new fact. >> the number is way off base here. even out of that 300,000, you've got to -- you're only talking about people who are nursing or have young infants, who are elderly who served as a veteran of the united states who people with very small u.s. citizen so there's a very, very, very small category of people who are even eligible for this and really
prosecutorial discretion which the other student was talking about has been around since the clinton administration carried through the bush administration and still exists today. they just keep rehashing the same one and then refusing to -- >> why is this happening now? why is this happening now? president obama has said for months he does not have the authority to do this. so what he did this week is actually a reversal. why? because he took a look at those latino poll numbers and what it hose is he's hemorrhaged 36 points among latinos over the last two years. 2012 election is coming up. isn't this a transparent craft, cynical political move? >> no, the reason they're doing this, if you practice in immigration court, you would know. the backlog is atrocious. sometimes people wait two years to get their day in court. sometimes people who are violent felons get held in custody at $122 a day for two, three months to get their day in court. they can't take the resources that they have and deport everybody. they have to focus them on violent criminals, criminals who have committed felonies.
that's where the resources need to go. not going around deporting mothers of small children and veterans of the united states. >> they should be deported and then they can file for legal immigration which we still have in this country. >> if we had all in the money in the world, we should do that. >> but we have a legal immigration process. it's called legal immigration. let me ask you, the president, as i mentioned to susan, the president has said for a long time, he lacked the authority to do this. and then he looked at those polls numbers and i guess he found the authority under a seat cushion or something this week. >> well, right. you'd like to introduce the current president to the one back in may who explicitly said look, our system doesn't work this way. i can't take whole big categories of people. you know, and just say we're not going to arrest them. but that's exactly what the memo said in june. and now this, we're talking millions of people are covered by the prior announcement and now this one who are just simply not going to be arrested. >> ok, guys.
we've got to jet. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> a muslim extremist called for a jihad against david letterman? geraldo is investigating and philadelphia mayor michael nutter under fire for delivering some tough talk to young black kids. >> you damage yourself, you damage your peers and quite honestly you damage your own race. >> some african-americans aren't happy with that straight talk. we'll hear from one of them we'll hear from one of them moments away. [ male announcer ] you love the taste of 2% milk.
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muslims in the united states to "cut off the tongue of letterman" because of a joke he made about an al-qaida leader who was killed in pakistan. geraldo is looking into the situation and joins us now. geraldo, how are you? >> nice to see you. >> you, too. let's start with david letterman. how serious a threat is this? >> i think it's way serious. even if it's a prank, even if it's a guy who had access to that web site and made a posting and what he said is there not among you to cut the tongue of this lola jew and shut it forever. so he is the guy who allegedly killed rabbi meyer kahani, the founder of the jewish defense league in 1990. he wasn't convicted for that murder but he was convicted for being an accomplice to the 1993 world trade center bombing so he's a martyr to the jihadist, now serving a life sentence so when he calls, when this anonymous web poster calls for
people to be like this martyr, you never can tell what kind of schmucky lone wolf might be on the web site. goes, gets a ticket to see the late show with david letterman and then does something. it's really possible going or coming from the studio, all the rest of it so they are right to take it very seriously. you never can tell how this could be ignited. remember in 2004, the dutch filmmaker in the netherlands killed by a muslim because he had made a fictional film about a female discrimination in the muslim world. the south park creators were threatened. you have to take it very seriously and i hear his security is beefing up as a result. >> this jihady called letterman "a lowly jew" he's not even jewish. >> he's presbyterian. >> no, facts don't matter to them. >> we're all the infidels. in the last couple of years, we've seen reports that al-qaida and other radical islamic groups
have been putting together lists of high profile people they'd like to target for assassination and a lot of counterterrorism people have said that's because they can no longer pull off the kind of spectacular attack like september 11th so they're looking for targeted assassination. i didn't realize that david letterman might be on the list. is this something that counterterrorism experts are looking at more closely? >> as the president, i think, correctly stated in his interviews and series of interviews earlier this week, the big show, the 9/11 conspiracy where you have multiple players and really need massive funding and a great plan, they do not believe that al-qaida has the -- the wherewithall to pull that off. but what they do have is the ability to incite major hasan at fort hood or the times square bomber. there is an ability to really incite violence in someone who is so inclined and with -- if you were on those jihadist web
sites and you're reading their propaganda every day and they're exhorting, you know, muslims and muslim americans to rise up, you never can tell. you get one loose nut in the bushel there, and they can cause a lot of damage. i think that letterman and other similarly targeted should beware. >> they never make a mystery of who they are and what they intend to do. so when the enemy tells you who they are and what they're about, believe them because they're not pulling your leg. let's switch gears and talk about the situation in aruba. we have another missing american woman for about two weeks now. she goes down to aruba with a guy she met on match.com. she's got some kind of boyfriend stateside. but now we find out that this guy took out a $1.5 million accidental death insurance policy on her which two days after he reported her missing, he tried to claim. >> the boyfriend who will be on my program sunday night at 10:00 eastern time but robyn gardner really is a curious woman who
had this live-in boyfriend and started this relationship with gary giordano on match.com but they lived in the same area so they could have some kind of physical communications so they arranged this trip. she lies to richard and says she's going on a family vacation in florida. she ends up going to aruba with gary and it turns out now and law enforcement sources and my brother craig is down on the island now that he took off this insurance policy not as travelers usually do, all the names, me and you do get this. he gets it only on her. he takes out the insurance policy on her. then he takes them scuba diving and she comes up missing. you know, it's almost like a duh. it's almost so blundering and obvious that you wonder if there isn't something that we're missing here but it certainly seems as if this was a murder done to a gullible woman who seems to have some miles on her and to be relatively
experienced, takes her, though, in this situation where she's vulnerable and offs her for the $1.5 million would be a motive grander than many of these. >> what is it about aruba? natalee holloway case. >> you can't even bury anyone there. >> bodies. >> there's coral. >> is this becoming a mecca for potential murders? >> poor aruba, don't know if they'll find her body. if you throw her body out in the water, it will be in the panama canal in three days. >> women, also, please, i thought this was a lesson we learned after looking for mr. goodbar in the 70's, don't trust a complete stranger. ladies, please, use your heads. thank you so much. great to see you. coming up on "the factor" fallout after philadelphia mayor michael nutter tells some young black men that they have damaged their race. one african-american columnist says he's trying to appease white people!
>> in the back of the book segment today, there's been a lot of violence by young mobs in philadelphia this summer. many of them african-american. obviously, a very dangerous situation. michael nutter who is a democrat responded with some tough words directed at black kids. >> you damage yourself. you damage another person. you damage your peers and quite honestly, you damage your own race. if you walk in somebody's office with your shoes untied and your pants half down, tattoos up and down your arm, on your face, on your neck and you wonder why people won't hire you. >> amen. philadelphia inquirer columnist annette john-hall wrote that the mayor was speaking "in a way that his white constituents would hear him loud and clear. at that point, he wasn'tanymore"
she joins us now from philadelphia. annette, great to see you, thank you for being here. >> thank you for inviting me, monica. >> so parts of philadelphia have been involved in the chaos and silence and mostly carried out by black flash mobs so the black democrat mayor of philadelphia stands up and he says, enough. and he starts to talk very powerfully about respect and civilized behavior. what's your issue with it? >> i don't have an issue with what he said. what i have an issue with was the timing of what he said and some of the words he chose to use. monica, we've been having this flash mob problem in philadelphia since last summer. it was only when the violence infiltrated into center city, downtown, where people dine, where businesses are and quite frankly, where white tourists come that the mayor felt compelled to go into a church
and admonish a whole group of black teens. now, why wasn't he doing this last summer when the violence was on south street? why was -- why doesn't he do this when young black men are shot every single day in the city? >> i agree with you on that point and that but let me get to your point about center city which is the commercial hub of philadelphia where all the commercial or most of it anyway, commercial transactions take place. as the mayor of philadelphia, it's that part of the city goes down, if it succumbs to the chaos and the violence, then the whole city is screwed so isn't the mayor's responsibility, yes, to do what you're saying but also to make sure that the commercial heart of the city is also protected? >> i understand that, monica. but i think it's very dangerous when you try to put an economic value on a life. the fact of the matter is people
in neighborhoods unarmed, unprovoked african-americans and latino people predominantly are getting killed in the city every single day. they are getting killed, not beaten down. not killed. it was only until the violence infiltrates into center city where people are getting beaten and robbed which is certainly bad enough that they're getting shot that the mayor feels compelled to say something. i think that's very dangerous and it sends a very dangerous message on whose lives matter most. >> aren't we, when you have this kind of chaos and violence going on in any of the communities in philadelphia or any city in america, aren't we beyond the point of having this conversation? i mean, aren't we beyond the point of sort of pussy footing around and coddling the thugs and i know you're not arguing that but isn't it time for some straight talk? especially coming from a black role model like mayor nutter? >> yes, but -- and he has been
that, monica, but it was how he chose to do it this time. he invited cameras in. he said it in a church. so he was speaking to a choir. if he really wanted to get his message out, he could go to where the kids are in the neighborhoods, at the recreation centers, in the schools. which he has done. might i add, without any cameras around. a >> i'm glad he's covering ally bases and that. would you like to see president obama speak to this as the first black president? >> well, i think, frankly i think that president obama has a lot more on his hands than speaking to black kids about flash mobs. i think what he needs to do is help the educational system here in philadelphia to help these kids understand that violence is not an answer. it's a deeply rooted problem that just can't be addressed
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