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>> brian: i thought so. >> steve: are you going to put that down? are we obligate to do put money in it? >> gretchen: log on for our of a the show show and more of toby keith. have a fantastic weekend, everyone. >> this is a very important song. bill: all right, on a friday morning, good morning, every. this could be very bad news for the white house and president obama. there's a new fox poll that shows a stunning number of voters that are simply not happy on the direction of the country. we asked are you satisfied with how things are going, 76 percent now say no, and that number has increased every year going back to 2009. good morning, everybody, on a friday. i'm bill hemmer, welcome here, how you doing. martha: good morning. bill: a lot to talk about in these numbers. martha: happy friday, everybody, i'll martha maccallum. those numbers are pretty troubling and it doesn't end there, the majority of people blame big government for the problem. take a look at this poll number. when asked will government regulations help or hurt your family, 61 percent say they will hurt, by taking
away freedom. bill: a higher number than people probably thought. stuart varney, leading our fox business network, the first poll, polls like these can make orioo make or break president social security -- presidencies can they not? >> i think it's passing judgment on the economic polices, the first poll you mentioned about people thinking government regulations are crimping the economy, not doing the right thing for the economy, that's what the private sector has been saying for some time, can't create jobs, you can't grow the economy if you're strangled by regulation. then that 76 percent that think we're going in the wrong direction, that is an implied criticism of president obama's direction that he's taking the country in, in the sense that he's going for more government and big government at that. it is to a large degree a repudiation of president obama's polices. bill: on that regulation question, a lot of times we seem to think that's inside the beltway speak in washington, but this number
at 61 percent tells you that people understand the issue. >> look, i speak to a lot of small business owners. and they are universal in saying look what's coming down the pike at me. i've got omabacare coming along, which imposes much higher medical costs on me, the employer, we've got dodd-frank, financial reform, financial regulation, that affects the relationship between small business and banks. when small business people talk to us across business, they are saying yes, we feel the regulations from the epa now, and we know that more is coming down the road, they know it's hurting us. bill: what are you going to be when you grow up, stuart? we asked the question, what would you want your own child to be. a wall street executive, 48 percent. an occupy wall street protester, 26 percent. neither say 18. what do you think about that? >> i am shocked! twenty-six, one quarter of americans want their children to grow up and demonstrate on wall street! in favor of the forced
redistribution of wealth. dare i say it, bill, that is expwhrirn. that's what i think. bill: marching north on broadway, when braid way runs south, that's what you're going to get. >> good one! bill: see you at 9:20. martha: that's a head scratcher. stuart varney did call it yesterday, big time, because he said it was going to be a huge day for the dow, but with less than 30 minutes to the opening bell are we going to see that rally carry over? the bulls, up 339 points. wouldn't you like to freeze that? it was the third largest point gain this year. futures, though, because this is the way these things go on wall street, folks, futures pointed lower today. remember, once you've got those gains that came in yesterday and over the course of the week on a friday afternoon, you're going to see some people who want to get rid of those ahead of the weekend. we'll see. bill: that's a nice picture, only for the moment. part of that surge coming from a 2 1/2% in the last quarter of growth, some analysts saying the economy
might be turning a corner. but what do you think? do you feel it? at foxnews.com, that's our question of the day. so far, 87 percent of voters say no way, no corner turned here. you can log on and vote and tell us what you think scwhrien. martha: got a panel coming up on that. go to martha maccallum for the panel. we'll look forward to that. as the election heats up we are getting new numbers that show more americans are identifying themselves as republicans. according to gallup, 40 percent now say that they consider themselves republicans or lean republicans and that is up from 37 percent from 2008. that's an interesting number, the rather also features slightly more will than men in its configuration. bill: while house speaker john boehner saying the president's new plan on housing and students loans is coming dangerously close, he believes, to crossing the line of the constitution. boehner saying the idea that the president is just going around congress is, quote, almost laughable.
and presidential candidate michele bachmann saying the -- sticking taxpayers with loan debt -- >> i believe it's abuse of power to impose an executive order a. wholesale change in the student loans. this will lead to a bubble in education. this year will be crossing the threshold of over $100 billion that will be borrowed by students, and we now have passed the threshold of a trillion dollars in student loan debt. bill: so here with the -- here is the plan on paper, the president suggesting throwing out the old man, pay as you earn. the monthly payments would eventually be capped at 10 percent of income, after 20 years. any remaining debt would be forgiven. martha: that's unbelievable. i mean, there are situations where people would pay back $28,000 of a $200,000 debt. bill: it's the white house -- >> martha: talk about that!
i mean, that's incredible, isn't it? that you could borrow $200,000, potentially, and pay back $28,000? >> bill: i paid it back on time every year and paid it in full. martha: bu you knew you had to. it was going to hang over your head. bill: i made the commitment to take the loan out. i had to pay it back. watch where this goes. martha: that's not sitting well with a lot of americans out there. according to a brand new rasmussen reports poll, 66 percent oppose this idea, they say students should pay back what they owe. what kind of lesson is that for students if they don't have to eventually pay back what they borrowed? 21 percent think the government should wipe the debt clean, they agree with this plan or guarantee to help students pay for their education, and the rest, 13 percent, are the same 13 percent that might want their children to be on occupy wall street. bill: we have brand new development necessary kansas city, attorney phos lisa irwin's parents will not allow police to interview their other children, ages
six and eight, as previously talked about. and police searched a nearby pond yesterday afternoon. mike tobin, following all these developments back there in kansas city, the interviews with the two boys will not happen, abruptly canceled. why is that mike? >> reporter: bill, the kansas city police just described the interviews with the two siblings as postponed, not canceled outright, and news that those interviews would be postponed seems to be linked to a very public spat now taking place between the two lawyers involved in this case. that news was delivered by the office of the very high profile new york attorney joe tacopina, along with the news that cyndy short, the local attorney had been fired from the case. the kansas city newspaper saying that tacopina is not in a position to fire anyone, she works for the client, not him. cyndy short also said if she had her way those two siblings would never be interviewed. bill: cyndy short was with
us a few days ago, now apparently off the case. mike tobin, thank you for those developments. martha: this is unbelievable, snow coming down in parts of the northeast. this is unprecedented, as far as i understand. we're going to check with the weather expects to get the final word. take a look at this, upstate new york, albany, winter storm warnings, flakes calling in wore chesser, massachusetts, north of boston. how about a noreaster before halloween? j.d., is this unprecedented in october to see a storm like this? >> reporter: typically we see our first measurable snow in new york around mid december, and that's the same for philadelphia. it's not unprecedented. just a handful of times we have seen measurable snow across big cities across the northeast for october, but yes, we could be setting some records, martha. i know martha is fired up about this story. i heard her earlier saying i don't usually get fired up about weather stories but this one, we got to cover!
>> martha: i was listening, while getting ready for the show. i love weather stories. nothing personal! >> reporter: i totally agree, this one we're getting fired up for and i'm so glad i'm not a local forecaster, because they're going to get their butts handed to them if they don't get this one right! but let's take a look at some of the computer models. this one is one of the more reliable ones we had through sat. there's d.c., there's philly, looks like it's too warm for snow at that time, but we're going to see cold air wrap around this storm and certainly as we get into sunday, overnight, we're going to see measurable snow across long island, new jersey and up towards new england. how much snow do we think? we're on that fine line between measurable snow and just rain, but martha, i do think for some of the big cities, new york city included, 2-4 inches, as we add up -- head up to boston, perhaps maybe more and interior section, 6-12! so beginning to look a lot
like christmas for halloween! martha: people could be snow men for halloween, how about that? >> >> reporter: we're going to have to get those costumes one size bigger for the kids, right? we're going to have to bundle them up. martha: have to put a coat over your halloween costume. reporter error i know you love the weather. martha: i do love the weather. what's not to like? every day is a good day for good weather. what's not to like. it would be cute to be santa or rudolph! bill: a lot more coming up in "america's newsroom". could eric holder's days as attorney general be numbered? today there are calls for a resignation over fast & furious. we have that today. martha: energy secretary stephen chu is set for a grilling by congress over the solyndra issue. we're going to talk to the man who will be asking him the questions. bill: also will rick perry skip the upcoming debates? his spokesman will explain when he joins us live in moments. >> if there was a mistake made, it was probably ever
martha: a horrifying crash leaves # people dead a. tractor trailer slammed into the back of a parked mini van in indiana. the van may have hit a deer, and then the semi slammed into it is what the folks on the ground believe happened in this horrific situation. seven of the people in that van were killed, four others were sent to the hospital. there is no word yet on their condition. bill: all right, they are going right to the top in the solyndra matter, energy secretary stephen chu will face congress on the $500 million loan to the solar company that's now out of business. the congressman leading that hearing is republican cliff stearns out of florida, he's my guest out of washington. good morning to you. >> good morning. bill: what is your first question to secretary chu, sir?
>> first of all, we're glad he's testifying. november 17th, i think it was a thursday. the first question, i guess we have two major questions, bill. first of all, in august 2009, the staff on the department of energy indicate that's solyndra would prophetically go bankrupt in september 2011, so two years ago, they said it would go bankrupt, and of course, we have all these e-mails so we're curious why secretary chu was still pushing this company even after price waterhouse said this company can't make and some of the numbers were bogus. so we'd like to ask secretary chu why he was pushing this company so forward when it obviously couldn't make it, and obviously, the second very important question is that he sub ord knighted taxpayers, $535 million, to two private hedge funds, of course, one of these hedge funds was owned by one of the investors in solyndra, and when i talked to the secretary of treasury's chief financial officer, mr. better thanker, he said
over -- berner, he said he has never, ever seen a subordination of taxpayer money to outside commercial loans. to i think -- so i think the secretary has to answer those questions. bill: is this illegal? did someone break the law? >> i think so. the energy policy act of 2005 specifically says you cannot subordinate taxpayers, so i'm just curious on what legal grounds he, and of course, the legal counsel for the department of energy, is going to have to explain why they did this and it's just in my opinion -- they broke the law. bill: another obvious question: who you -- have you found yet whether or not someone is hiding something? >> well, we have found that the counsel for the department of energy did two memos trying to justify why they subordinated. we'd like to know if secretary chu read those memos. it looks like one was not sent to him. it appears they were set up as a cover for the department of energy in the event this was questioned.
so we'd like to know, did secretary chu know about these two memos, did he endorse them, and was the original counsel for the department of energy replaced so that they could push this deal through. bill: there's going to be a lot of people watching this hearing when it gets underway on the 17th of november. is there a way for secretary chu to explain all this, do you believe? >> well, i think they're going to say the interpretation of that one sentence in the energy policy act is open to interpretation. in fact, their interpretation, i think, is totally erroneous. but i think the american people had it right to hear his side, as well as the department of energy's counsel, who we intend to bring up, before we bring secretary chu up, so that we hear their point of view under oath and then hear secretary chu under oath describe why he agrees or disagrees. bill: and you pointed this out, too. this report suggests that the investors in the company, the deal was reworked so that the investors could pay -- get
paid back before the taxpayers and i know that is chief on your list, too, and we wonder whether or not there are more examples like solyndra to be uncovered in the future. we are watching on the 17th, sir, thank you for your time, cliff stearns out of washington. hemmer, fox news.dom, also e-mail, and twitter. this topic is hot t. will only gain more steam as we move into the next month. bya, because you asked. next hour, great questions about these tax reforms. we'll get to them in the next hour. martha: that's coming up. in the meantime, a slow landslide, claiming one house and it's now threatening others. now the homeowners say they think their city is to blame for what's happening to their homes and they are suing the city. we're going to talk to this homeowner, next. >> walk into this house, i haven't actually figured out the details but that's one of the choices. what we look at are the hard choices. we're just normal people for the most part here and it's really ugly. the choitses -- the choices
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bill: 22 minutes past the hour on a friday, forecasting the weather might get easier for janice dean, a rocket headed into space will monitor the weather and any changes in climate on earth. nine people injured after a small plane crashed into a city street in vancouver breaking into pieces, that plane was attempting to land at an aimplet it crashed and burned. no word on the cause but they did survive. >> an active volcano forcing about 100 people to get out of their homes, we're told they're being cautious at the moment but not ruling out the possibility of an eruption, this out of chile. last time it erupted, back in 1991, 20 years ago. martha. martha: nobody wants to lose their home and nobody planned on this, a landslide in everett, washington,
right here the cascade mountains, that is now threatening more than a dozen homes. one home, completely destroyed, another one is severely damaged. look at these pictures of these poor folks' houses. two hundred families are no longer able to inhabit their homes and now the neighbors are filing a lawsuit claiming that a drainage project caused this soil underneither their homes to erode. it's an allegation that the everett engineers deny. i'm joined by jay hemelman, one of the residents suing the city. jay, thank you for being with us today. >> thank you for having me. martha: this is a terrible situation, but why do you think the city is to blame for it? >> we believe they enlarged a storm drain, runoff into the streets above us and in 2004 they quadrupled the capacity, went to a 18-inch pipe to a 36-inch pipe, basically, when it rains hard, the much flows much
more free with the water and we don't believe they followed the proper environmental impact assessments when they did the project and we think the creek is eroagd thera --ra zean that our houses sit on. it is causing a deep landslide. this is not a surface landslide. martha: it's from underneath. >> it's very deep. martha: so construction of your house has helped your house to hold but the ground around your home is falling away, and as we said, at least one family has completely lost their home, and others can't live in them, right? >> yes. two houses, john's house is the house down the hill and rob and margaret, their house is under mine, the fracture line of the landslide, my house is sit dac -- sitting back from the scarp, so i've been luckier than some of my neighbors. martha: what is everyone going to do? >> we have not filed a lawsuit against the city, but we plan to.
let me clarify that. we've done as much research as we have, we've approached the city with what we think, what we found, and we asked the city to make it right and the city came back and said basically that they're not at fault. martha: we have their statement. i want to put it up so everyone at home can see what they said. let's take a look: there it is. slope instability in the area occurred long before the 2004 storm drainage project. geotechnical reports dating to the early 1980s documents slope stability problems, landslides and unstable fill. we cannot participate in the restoration of private property. so they say that this has always been a problem, basically, and they're saying since the 1980s, a lot of these homes were built after that. did you have anyone make you aware of these issues when you bought your home or was there any discussion in the neighborhood before all that? >> well, you know, let me just say that we agree with the city, yes, there have been landslides but those
previously were surface landslides, those are the top couple feet of ground, they're still on some of the lots that we're on, and we're in agreement with them and that's part of our point. they knew that when they did this. martha: so why would they expand these drainage pipes when they knew this was already a risky proposition in terms of this land underneath. with got to go but i thank you very much for being with us and we'll keep an eye on t. let us know if there are any developments, snok. >> all right, thank you. bill: an absolute mess out there. speaker boehner calling out president obama, saying he is overstepping his constitutional authority, calling some of his latest moves laughable. so is the president crossing the line? >> martha: minutes from now we're going to get the opening bell on wall street after that huge bull market yesterday. one-day bull market at least we can say, right? up more than 300 points. we'll see what happens today. bill: just today, republican presidential candidates
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bill the markets open for tbhis new york and investors seeing huge gains, news of the bailout of an entire country, the country, greece, in the end, they might be bailing out more than one country. man. emac is with us, elizabeth mcdonald. is this a short-lived rally or is it safe to look? >> you talk to people on wall street, and i've been talking to them, they worry that it will be a short-lived rally. it was a great bump up. it was the biggest multi gain, percentage gain, in 25 years for the dow, and also, people were piling into junk bonds, but you're right, bill, the issue goes beyond greece. the worries now are about italy and spain. bill: okay. does that mean they have to go back to the drawing board and we're going to be filled with this tension again for months to come? >> yeah. you know, when you think about it, just looking at
the numbers, and the deal itself, the issue -- you talk to former executives at goldman sachs, which i've done, they're saying essentially, don't think of it just in the terms that the very faressor have to tear a hair cut, he says that's not the issue. what you've got to look at is growth in italy, growth in greece, growth in spain, and their debt load as it compare toss their gdp, and when you think about t. greece -- >> bill: they're in trouble. >> that's right. greece has, what, 12 million people, $300 billion in debt. and when you look at italy, italy has 60 million people, $2.6 trillion in debt. and when you look at spain, they've got about 46 million people, $1.4 trillion in debt. so whether or not they can grow their way out of their debt burden is the biggest issue for the eurozone and for whether or not this rescue effort fails or, in fact, if it even gets bigger. bill: that's going to drag us into it. that's the worst forecast in the 12 inches of snow this
weekend in the northeast! >> the other issue is how we are exposed to this. bill: indeed we are. it's all tied in now. thank you, elizabeth. have a nice day. good to see you. martha: meanwhile, we've got republicans who have been hammering president obama on his handling of the economy. but if things start to improve, like the gdp number that we saw yesterday, up 2 1/2%, if they start to improve even just a little bit, does that make it more difficult for the 2012gop -- 2013 gop -- 2012 gop candidates? brad blakeman and juan williams join us. gentlemen, this is a fascinating question to me. you've got more than 12 months to go until this presidential election, you've got a gdp number that comes in at 2 1/2% yesterday, that's a very decent number, we saw a nice rally in the market yesterday. so the question is have things become so relative given how bad things have
been that even the slightest increment will give the president a very good argument for reelection, juan? >> well, martha. it's not going to change a lot of harmed-boiled republican attitudes. i think right now it's close to 80 percent of republicans who want no part of president obama. martha: but he just has to win over the independents that. >> -- independents. >> i was coming to that. i think this could help to sway some of the independent voters that have been pulling away from president obama because they are the ones who feel sort of the kitchen table issues, not only about unemployment, but the general anxiety that attaches to my pension plan, to the value of my house, and all that. so if they think that there's a reason for confidence and reason for viewing things as being on an upward trajectory, i think that could be very helpful to president obama. martha: that's clearly the argument they're going to go for. take a look at this, very interesting article in politico on bill daley today. while we haven't seen a whole lot of analysis on bill daley, he's been a quiet chief of staff
certainly compared to rahm emanuel, he gave an interview and said there's a lot going to happen in the next 13 months, a lot. i would like to say it's all going to be good but nobody knows. i don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that we have a stronger attitude around the economy. i'm not -- i'm not saying we're going to be down around 6 percent unemployment but just the beginning of a psychological change. brad, is the seeds of what they're hoping for here. >> they can hope all they want but i'm going to improve on james carville's mantra and this year the resident -- the republicans are going to say it's all about jobs, stupid. it's not the amount of growth if the american public doesn't see it in the work force. if jobs aren't available and they're going into the polling booth they're not going to care about whether our country has grown on paper, they're going to worry about the fact that they don't have work, and there isn't a possibility that their future is going to be brighter under another four years of obama. march that is correct the real poll that the republicans and democrats
need to look at is right track, wrong track. at 75 percent of the american people today, regardless of party affiliation, believe our country is headed down the wrong track. to change those numbers is very difficult. martha: i hear you, but that's also a huge -- i'm going to use the word discussed, with congress on both sides. that's one of the big, big issues here i think. but you touched on something really important, brad and i want to get juan's thoughts on this. there's a divide. the market can go up, you know, earnings can be better, these companies have learned really well how to get by on far fewer employees in their ranks, so if it's not felt at home around the kitchen table, and people are being told things are improving, that may not be a good ticket for the democrats. >> no, but i come back to this whole notion of consumer confidence, corporate confidence in terms ever spending the money. you're right, there have been so many structural issues, including outsourcing a job and the fact that we through technology don't need as many workers in some of the big companies, but you know
what, there's always innovation. if the investor class as evidenced by yesterday's performance feel better that's going to translate to the banks, to lending, and it translates then to new kinds of inventions and business ventures that could lead to more hiring. i don't think that's out of the question. we're not going down to 6 percent. but it's confidence. if the confidence -- if people say look -- remember, the president's argument is we were in a ditch, it's taken us longer to get out of the ditch. but if people believe oh no, we're actually headed up, i think that's a big, big victory for the democrats and president obama. martha: it's sort of like banging your head against the wall, you don't know how good it feels until it stops, and that may be sort of enough for some people, and i find this interesting, there's a lot of talk about the bubble in china, that manufacturing, that the wage gap is narrowing a little bit, that some manufacturing may be coming back to the united states. really interesting economic arguments out there that are kind of bubbling up and catching some attention. i want to show you this.
this is another poll that they with did and goes to the big government issue, i think conservatives have made ground on this issue, it's reflected in this poll. 60 percent say that big government is a greater potential threat to the country's future. and brad, you know, a lot of what the president has in mind and that he's pushing through with some of these executive orders don't go to shrinking the government, that's for sure. >> absolutely no. and the 800-pound gorilla which has yet to surface in this campaign is going to be in june when the supreme court comes back and t strikes down omabacare or upholds it. if the supreme court strikes down omabacare that's a huge defeat for this president and i don't know what he's going to do between june and election date to make up for that kind of rebuke of his key economic policy. just to touch on what ron said with regard to confidence -- juan said with regard to confidence, confidence will only take place if there's surety in the marketplace and with taxes looming, with what the taxes are going to be corporately and personally, and with our debt structure, we'll never create the kind of confidence that is needed between now and election day
to get the american people to feel we're going in the right direction. martha: understood. i just wonder how low peoples' expectations have become and how much incremental improvement, even the slightest bit of sunshine, what kind of impact that may have. it's going to be really interesting to watch. thank you very much, guys, great conversation. juan williams and brad blakeman, always good to talk to you both. bill: how late did you stay up last night, america? this is a night they will never forget in st. louis. >> into the air, to center! we will see you tomorrow night! >> yes, we will. bill: the st. louis cardinals, forcing a winner take all, game seven tonight against the texas rangers. i don't know how in the world you ride a game like this! jamie colby is live in our newsroom, wearing the red! good morning.
>> reporter: did i get the story of the day or what? it might not have been a watchup -- a matchup between two glamour teams but tony larusso says you had to see it to believe it, the team had an amazing comeback, forcing a game seven. >> it's hard to believe it, but we never quit trying. i know it's corny. but the fact s. we don't ever quit trying, even when we were behind, sometimes it works. >> reporter: the cards were down to the last strike but a home run in the bottom of the ninth, forcing extra innings. >> it's off the wall! it's off the wall! here comes burkeman. >> reporter: unbelievable. then a blast in the 11th, forcing a game seven, and creating must-see tv tonight! >> predicted in the end, to center. we will see you tomorrow night! >> give them credit, they
fought tonight. they came back, and they won the ballgame. >> reporter: we'll take it. not since 2002 has the world series seen a game seven after the angels beat the giants. what can you expect tonight? home teams have won the last eight series game sevens and the cards have won the most game sevens in series history but you'll have to tune in to find out, tonight, 8:05, only on fox. stay up! stay up! bill: listen, the cardinals scored once in the eighth, twice in the ninth, twice in the tenth and the 11th to win it. jamie, thank you. you will only see that on fox, as jamie said! martha: that's the best part. bill: perfect for programming. check it out tonight in prime time. martha: well, there is controversy erupting. this new plan, have you heard about this, for one state to accept mexican identification as a valid form of i.d. in their state. there's more to that. bill: also, rick perry, will he skip some of these
upcoming debates, we wonder? we'll ask his communications director live out of austin, neck's. >> and they want -- >> will you please -- let me finish with what i have to say! >> look, rick -- [ female announcer ] so you think your kids are getting enough vegetables? yeah, maybe not. v8 v-fusion juice gives them a full serving of vegetables plus a full serving of fruit. but it just tastes like fruit. v8. what's your number?
bill: so will rick perry skip some of the upcoming de sphwhaitssy texas governor, on with bill o'reilly the other night hinting at some of his frustration on the factor. >> these debates are set up for nothing more than to tear down the candidates. if there was a mistake made it was probably ever doing one of the campaigns when all they're interested in is stirring it up between the candidates. bill: so what's going on in austin? communications director of the perry campaign, sir, good morning to you and welcome back to "america's
newsroom". what's behind this? >> bill, the governor is in new hampshire today, talking about filing this paperwork for being on the ballot, talking about job creation. what we have said in the last couple of days is there have been eight republican primary debates, governor perry has done five, we are going to do more. there are something like 18 debates scheduled or planned between now and the end of january. but we would much rather be talking about the number of jobs the governor is going to create from his new economic plan, the new tv ads, talking about jobs we've got on the air in iowa. bill: i can certainly understand that. i've got seven debates in the next six weeks, or starting in november, six weeks going forward, i have 16 debates over the next 12 weeks. how do you avoid the impression that he's running from these? >> well, he has done five. we are going to do more. and he needs to spend time and is going to spend time with voters in iowa and new
hampshire, talking about those jobs plans that i talked about. this really seems to me to be an inside the beltway debate, when the debate really needs to be focused on how do the candidates create jobs, how do the economic plans stack up, how does your 20 percent flat tax stack up against perform romney keeping the existing tax rates in place or herman cain adding a new source of revenue. bill: you have points from your perspective in texas but the headline will be when the next debate comes around, where is rick perry. i wonder, when he started out, joining the race, at 32 percent, if you put the polls together, he's down to 12 percent, our own fox polling has him dropping even further at right around 10 percent on the bottom of your screen, previously in september, he was at 19 percent. is that why? >> bill, he is going to be at the next debate, there are a lot of debates planned, and what we plan on doing to get back to the top of the field is to talk
about cutting taxes, cutting spending, creating jobs, building on our best in the nation economic record here in texas, and that's really what the voters want to talk about. these political processes are interesting to some folks, but the voters in the early stage, the voters across the country want to know how are these candidates going to get jobs back on track and that's why the governor laid out his cut, balance and grow plan in south carolina, to cut those tax rates down to a flat 20 percent, cut federal spending, and really, enable the private sec to, entrepreneurs and family toss invest their money and create jobs to get this country back on track. bill: when 6 million people watch our fox debate, these can be game changers. >> and the governor has done five and will do more debates, bill. what else can ab game changer is the economic plans and getting into those states where the voters in iowa and new hampshire and south carolina, florida,
they deserve time to see and vet and hear from those candidates. the forms that we have in iowa -- the forums that we have, for example n. iowa give more time for voters to listen to what they're concerned about, to expand on the governor's tax cut, spending cut, job creation plan in a much more realistic interaction with voters, and a lot more time than these 30rbgs 602nd sound bites. bill: you have to put in the time in iowa, new hampshire and south carolina to win, you're right about that. the next debate is the ninth of november, i know you will there and on case by case basis after that. thank you. >> thank you bill. bill also this sunday an exclusive interview with the texas governor, chris wallace asking him everything the voters want to know, fox news sunday, check it out. also you can see it on the cable side at 2:00 and 6:00 come sunday afternoon. maybe we'll get more answers then. martha: absolutely. >> reporter: so bank of america customers outraged
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>> ♪ >> ♪ bill: we could go as the caingd queen on halloween, too! big changes for the royals, britain's prime minister says the u.k. will now allow 1st-born daughter toss inherit the throne, instead of giving that kiteel to a younger brother and the new agreement will allow the heir to the british throne to marry a catholic and still become the monarch. queen elizabeth agreed it was time for a change. martha: that is an absolutely huge decision!
and one very quick prediction, i know we don't have a loft time, i predict if they have a daughter first, they will name her die yarntion so the possibility that you could have a queen diana of england would give princess diana the ultimate -- well, we'll talk more about that later. how about this? they're calling them the oxy to thes, babies addicted to powerful drugs like oxy conic -- oxycontin. it's a scary scenario, john, good morning. john: it's a tragedy, nothing short of that. we all remember the crack baby epidemic of the 199 os. have a look at this, this is a baby addicted to powerful prescription narcotics, whatever the baby's mother was taken, the baby cries uncontrollably, shakes uncontrollably, can't eat. we visited the hospital in st. petersburg, florida, they had 80 babies, of those 80 in the -- eight on -- of the 80, 24 percent were addicted to prescription
drugs. the problem is getting worse. 2008, 15 babies were anict dollars to the nic-u, addicted to prescription drurks so far this year, that number is 136. according to neonatologist, there is only one way to treat those baby. sue: the drug they need is morphine. that's replacing what they have been getting throughout the pregnancy. you think about it, the babies have been exposed to these drugs for nine months to an adult wouldn't be on narcotics for nine months and go cold turkey. >> you can imagine they have to give the babies these drugs for a long period of time. imagine being on morphine for the very first weeks of your life, and dr. mccarthy says this is worse than the crack baby epidemic because those babies got better in a few days. it takes a month or more to wean those babies off those addictions. martha: that is shock, those numbers and watching that video of that poor little baby, so florida, what can they do about this? >> they can try to do a lot.
florida is among the worst in the nation when it comes to prescription drug buse and certainly the so-called pill mills. police are trying to attack this on a number of different levels. they are stopping people. we read along with panetta sheriff yesterday, they're stopping people to visit the pill mills, hoping if they can keep the heat on them they'll stop going to the pill mills and have a chance to break their addiction. there's also a brand new law that went into effect about a month ago, which monitors the sale of prescription drugs. they are still tweaking with the rules because there are still loopholes there, but attorney general pam bondi told me yesterday she is determined to shut these pill mills down. >> these are drug dealers wearing white coats. they have armed guards at the door, they're a cash-only business. i went in them in fort lauderdale. they are a horrible place and we are shutting them dowfnlt that's what our new legislation is doing. having said that our state has put all these drugs on the streets. >> reporter: later today there's a big announcement with eric holder, the
attorney general and pam bondi about the pill mill operation and tomorrow is a take back day for people who have unused or expired prescriptions to drop them off. martha: what a terrible story. john roberts, thank you very much, reporting from florida. [ horn honks ] hey, it's sandra -- from accounting. peter. i can see that you're busy... but you were gonna help us crunch the numbers for accounts receivable today. i mean i know that this is important. well, both are important. let's be clear. they are but this is important too.
martha: they may be crossing the constitutional line. the most powerful republican in washington says that president obama's plans to go around congress is quote, almost laughable. that is how we start a brand new hour this morning on america's newsroom on a friday. i'm martha maccallum. how are you doing bill? bill: i'm doing just fine. you? martha: great. bill: rangers fans are writing in. they wish we would stop hating on them. no hating here. game 7 tonight. martha: that is the final game. bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning. speaker john boehner calling the president out on circumventing congress. >> this idea that you're going to go around the congress it is almost laughable. and so we're keeping a very
close eye on the administration to make sure that they are following the law and following the constitution. martha: sam youngman correspondent for "the hill" joins me. good morning to you. >> good morning. martha: not all that surprising that john boehner, this is territory sort of issue i would imagine, what? if he doesn't fight bag for the territory it would be a mistake i guess? >> this battle is old as city is. it will get worse. we learned from an interview on "politico" today with white house chief of staff bill daly, they will continue the drumbeat of executive actions to the quote of pushing the envelope. so i think speaker boehner's warning is just the tip of the iceberg here. martha: that was fascinating interview reference. it made an interesting point because when you think about the dynamic of the presidency over the past six months, trying to get stuff through congress, not getting anywhere successfully with it and this sea change where they
said, let's look every way we possibly can to do stuff on our own. he has been accused of not being a leader. this is with we're seeing play out i think in part to urging of bill daley it sound? >> i think you're absolutely right. there is a feeling in the white house the president sort of ceded the a lot of executive authority that came with the presidency in the early going as he tried to work with congress. look, they're engaged in a campaign now. they're looking at congressional approval ratings. i can't tell you how many administration officials in last couple days have noted to me congress is sitting 9% approval rating. they feel like look, the president is getting credit for at least trying to do something. i think on their face some of these executive actions are too small to warrant a great deal of constitutional concern but that is not going to stop a big battle. i would note mr. daley was not just noting republicans in congress. he was pointing out democrats in congress have caused a lot of problems too. martha: indeed he was.
it is an interesting story. thank you very much, sam youngman from "the hill." thanks for joining us this morning. bill: new hampshire is one crowded state today. mitt romney and rick perry both campaigning there today. right now romney is the clear frontrunner in that state's primary. this brand new poll shows romney at 41%. perry screen bottom near the right at the bottom only 4%. molly line in the granite state. what does perry's team say about this? good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. the man from texas not given up new hampshire he sign on the dotted dotted line to participate in the new hampshire primary. perry's supporters have not given up. we had a chance to stop by the headquarters yesterday. they were assembling 800 lawn signs to be put out in the coming weeks. perry's camp is out there and still working though they have not made as many visits to the state as other
candidates which is critical to winning the new hampshire primary. we had a chance to speak to a professor yesterday who talked about the one of the biggest challenges perry may face is he already made an impression. listen. >> he already made a first impression. it is a bad one. now he has to fight back to try to win over the voters now skeptical of him. >> reporter: and as mr. scala was saying that can be a tough battle in new hampshire if you're not spending a lot of time on the ground, bill. bill: molly, why is mitt romney doing so well in new hampshire? what do they like about him? >> reporter: he has a little bit of hometown advantage. he was governor of state next door, massachusetts. he has a lake house here. he spent a lot of time on the ground. he has solid organization. he is out there shaking the hands that is something new hampshire voters like to see. keep in mind while he has 40% there are quite a few voters, almost 60% keeping their mines open.
this contest not quite over. bill? bill: molly line, thank you. we'll find out in january what comes of that. thanks. martha. martha: here is something to think about as president obama may be looking over his shoulder a little bit he might secording to one poll, hillary clinton? this is from "time" magazine this morning. they're putting the secretary of state up against the three gop presidential candidates. hypothetically she beats them all easily. look at this 55% over mitt romney. 22-point lead over herman cain, and whopping 26-point lead over rick perry. in fairness lot easier to be the secretary of state. if she had been elected president she would have a whole record of president she would be running against. i remember lots of polls where bill clinton and put bill clinton and try them against everybody. bill: gives us something to talk about. martha: exactly. >> president obama's health care law facing a major drop in support, according to the kaiser family foundation. a new poll finding favorable
views of the law dropping to the lowest level since the law was passed in march of last year. take a look at this. 51% have unfavorable view of the law. that is a new high. 34% in that survey take a favorable view. this number falling seven points from just last month. martha: well a key scientific expert is expected to testify today in the manslaughter trial of michael jackson. ad ham housley live in front of the courthouse in los angeles. adam, what have we learned from the defense's propofol expert so far? >> reporter: martha, the bus goes by here. sorry about that. dr. paul white is his name. we've been waiting for some time for this star witness to take the stand here in this case. what he has done so far, first of all they lay out his credentials which took a while. he is very respected and well-credentialed in his field. he started talking a little bit what he felt went down. he said it is not as clear to him that michael jackson
was being given propofol when he got a chance to look at everything. he has been studying propofol six years before it was even legal. take a listen. >> i was somewhat perplexed how the determination had been made by essentially all of the experts that dr. murray was infusing propofol because in my examination of the documents and the evidence that was described, it wasn't obvious to me. >> reporter: he also told the defense team that he feels that michael jackson did not die of a propofol overdose. martha? martha: very interesting. so the defense is winding down now. but still, the trial still has at least a few days it looks like before it is going to wrap up, right? >> reporter: yeah. well the judge halted hoped to give both defense and prosecution the weekend to prepare for closing arguments. the judge really pushed to have closing arguments begin on monday but as you can tell this is not going to be done monday. this expert witness will finish today with the prosecution or sorry, with the defense team. the prosecutors then have
been told they can prepare the weekend before they cross-exam him on monday, martha. more than likely, martha the jury will not get this case until the middle of next week. martha: thank you very much, house. bill: january gnat napolitano was grilled by the botched gun operation, "fast and furious". listen. >> how can you make the claim the border is more secure than ever yet the obama administration purposely allows nearly 2,000 guns to be released knowing they're going to go to mexico? >> no one takes the death of agents more seriously than i. bill: the man asking that question is jason chaffetz. he is live in a moment as callers for attorney general eric holder to resign are on the rise just since yesterday. martha? martha: and the cain train may be slowing down a little bit. why his campaign directors are reportedly telling him to dial it back a little bit for now. bill: also she was accused of inviting five teenage students to her home to
bill: there is another miracle about life after this deadly earthquake in turkey. a 13-year-old boy pulled from the debris of a colapsed building. watch this here. [shouting]. now more than five days after that deadly quake rocked the eastern part of that country the boy told his mother, he spent his time praying and reciting the turkish national anthem. to date nearly 600 people reported dead so far.
martha: all right. well there are new reports that calls for the resignation of eric holder doubled overnight. there is now eight congresspeople, members of congress who are calling for him to resign amid the controversial gun running operation known as "fast and furious". meanwhile homeland security secretary janet napolitano was grilled on what she knew about this operation and when she knew it. watch. >> how is it that you can make a claim the border is now more secure than ever and yet the obama administration purposely allows nearly 2,000 guns to be released knowing that they're going to go to mexico with hundreds of people killed by those weapons, two dead u.s. agents and yet you don't even know if we even detected one of those guns? in fact on january 14th you did dedeck somebody in new mexico. eight guns were found. they didn't run a trace on them and you let those guns go into mexico. i find that absolutely stunning for you to have two
dead agent and never had a conversation with eric holder about "fast and furious" about this, is totally unacceptable. totally unacceptable. >> the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman -- >> mr. chairman i know representative chaffetz has opinion on this matter as the tone on of his question reveals i simply suggest no one takes the death of agents more seriously than i and also that one of the reasons that we have not directly dealt with the attorney general on this he have quickly and appropriately put this matter in the hands of the inspector general. martha: that republican congressman joins me now, jason chaffetz on the house committee on oversight and government reform. congressman, welcome. good to have you here. >> thanks, martha. martha: first question about this. couple weeks ago you said you felt the focus was not really on homeland security. it should be on doj and atf. that raises one question here is why in the course of this hearing did you go after janet napolitano if you think that doesn't
really lie in homeland security? >> well, the more we get these documents the more they reveal that, wait a second, homeland security did have an agent detailed. i was really shocked about when i asked her when did you ever talk to eric holder about this, she said never. and i thought, my goodness, here you have brian terry who is killed on december 14th and yet she says the reason she didn't talk to eric holder because the attorney general immediately put an investigator, an investigator on this that is just not true. that investigator didn't get put into place or inspector general didn't get put in place until the end of february. what happened during those nearly three months? she has two dead agents during that time frame and she never once calls the person who is in charge of the operation where the guns were found at the scene of these dead agents? that is just unbelievable to me. that is new information. martha: so, were you able to press her on that? once she did learn about it,
you know, what she did then, what actions she took then once she learned about it? >> she said she didn't know it was tied to "fast and furious". that too is not true, the agent where the scene where the death occurred they did immediate trace and found guns there they were immediately identified as guns from "fast and furious". she testified before our committee when i asked her a question she said they didn't know they were done with "fast and furious". that is is absolutely not true. the week before she testified before senator grassley said there had been no forensics that is simply not true. now continues to balloon into snowball. is it degree of incompetence or cover-up or where is this? these questions are still unanswered. >> my next question for you regards eric holder. "the daily caller" came out with a piece this morning. they say the number doubled overnight in terms of congressman and women calling for his resignation. your reaction to that and does that have any pull, any power with someone who serves at the pleasure of
the president? >> well, look i think the single most important thing we need to do is have eric holder come back before the oversight committee. i think darrell issa has done a wonderful job with this judiciary is also involved. i believe he is next scheduled to go before the united states senate but i want him to be held accountable. the president said in march that people would be held accountable. more and more looks like eric holder and janet napolitano. those people need to be accountable and president needs to hold them accountable. martha: have you asked him, there is also some discrepancy, when he spoke at may 3rd hearing and said a couple weeks ago he learned about it. that really triggered so much of this investigation. why would he not have known about something. we saw the e-mails and memos that came out show that he knew, had been at least, cc'd on those members, the memos were sent to him talked about "fast and furious". follow-up date. question to him from you, the president learned about it in march. my guess i probably learned about it before the president.
that messes with that timeline a little bit, doesn't it? >> well he has never clarified this he has had plenty of opportunities to tell us what he knew and when. but you have literally the attorney general and the secretary of homeland security saying, we didn't know anything about it. yet this is an operation where we let thousands of guns go purposely into the hands of bad guys. the mexican government is telling us there are nearly over 200 deaths with these guns. we have two dead age answer and on the mex -- agents, two dead u.s. agent and two cabinet level secretaries saying we didn't know. martha: we have to we didn't get to touch on it but hillary clinton was questioned by congresswoman mack whether the state department should have some knowledge of this these weapons crossing the border. where do you think that will go if you can? >> the secretary said she didn't know. this is high-profile case of thousands of guns going into mexico and we're part of the
oversight and reform committee. how does this happen and how does hillary clinton not know anything? who knows what is going on there these questions will continue to be pressed by us in the house. we have to get answers to these things. martha: thank you very much. great to get an update from you and i hope you join us again soon when we get more. thank you, sir. >> thank you. bill: taxes taking center stage in the battle for that republican nomination. you have heard this many times. >> 9% business plat tax, 9% personal income flat tax, and a 9% national retail sales tax. bill: it doesn't end there. flat tax, fair tax, sales tax, you find it all taxing? because you asked, with an answer on that in a moment. martha: how about this, no driver's license, no passport? no problem. you can use your mexican consulate card. a sheriff explains why this move here in the united states is facing a huge firestorm of criticism.
martha: well police in virginia going underwater to try to find 9-year-old robert wood, jr.. he has been missing for six days now. he was taking a walk with his family in the park when he apparently ran off. he is autistic. he is unable to speak. now the divers are searching in nearby lakes. one volunteer saying he is not giving up. >> i've been very hopeful that we would be able to find him. i guess my hopes are fading fast now though. want to keep trying. martha: that he will not give up according to the sheriff there. hanover sheriff's department. they believe robert may still be alive. >> i love you brother, but let me tell you --. herman, i love you brother, let me telling you something. you don't have to have big analysis to figure this thing out. go to new hampshire where
they don't have a sales tax where you're fixing to give them one. they're not interested is nine, nine, nine. what they're interested in is flatter and fairer. bill: nine, nine, nine, the sales tax, is it flat, is it fair? one of many issues taking center stage brings us to bya. because you asked. what are the differences between the flat tax and the fair tax? we don't know sew john fund came in, senior editor of "american spectator". good morning to you, john, in phoenix today. >> thank you. bill: our research tells us a fair tax is actually a sales tax. they're the same thing, right? do you define it the same way? >> yes. it's a national sales tax as opposed to the separate state sales taxes that most states have. bill: when you buy something you get taxed on it? that is the sales tax and you know that, right? >> right. it be like 23 cents on top of every dollar you spend. it will be right there. and basically a few people will be given a prebate.
in other words given a credit for living expenses so the tax won't be completely regressive. bill: why do supporters of this fair tax or sales tax, why do they think it will improve the economy? >> well we have a completely ridiculous tax system. it is eight times the length of the bible. france of all places has a tax code that is only 1/8 the size of ours. our tax code is ripe with loopholes, distortions and discourages savings an investment. savings an investment ultimately lead to job creation. we haven't much of that lately. bill: what is the flat tax then? there is a significant difference, right? >> the flat tax retains the current incomes tax but changes it completely. under governor perry's version of it, it takes the tax down to 20%, flat for everyone but it keeps some deductions for charitable contributions for home mortgage, state and local taxes. and, at the same time, it
basically transfers a lot of the burden of taxation to people who consume money because, if you're saving and investing you also get a lower rate. bill: now, i know a lot of flat tax supporters think it will improve the economy. do you think in this environment that any of these possibilities have a chance of getting through? >> oh, yes. i think there is real appetite for tax reform but the problem that some of the fair tax people are going to have is this. every country in the western world that has developed the kind of sales tax or value-added tax to put into the economy, the rates have gone up over time, creeped up. so that's why the fair tax people say we have to get rid of the income tax before we get rid, before we put in the national sales tax. the problem getting rid of income tax require constitutional amendment. that is heavy lifting job. politically i think the flat tax is easier to put in simply for that reason. bill: john, thanks. appreciate it. >> thank you. bill: out of phoenix.
see you back in new york real soon. e-mail address hemme email@example.com. because you askeds, just need one line like what are you going to be for halloween? martha: that is a great question. i know what he will be for hall won but i'm not -- halloween but i'm not going to tell you. he is surging in the polls, taking top spot in at least three surveys this week so that is significant. but the cain train may be slowing down a little bit. herman cain's new campaign strategy, very interesting. will it work? bill: bang of america got so much backlash for adding fee on debit cards it may have changed way banks are willing to do business. why you might get a break. let me tell you about a very important phone call i made.
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are calling g affes. they are going to slow down the campaign for cain. cain is leading the pack at 24%, now the frontrunner. mary katherine ham of the caller, and a fox news contributor, how are you doing. >> good, good. bill: what do you think of the strategy, slow the cain train down. >> what his campaign is saying, look we have had mistakes here. they are saying because he has a very busy schedule. i'm not sure that they are signaling that they will cut down on schedule so much as much as we are signaling we understand we need to be a little bit more careful. we've hit the prime-time here. people are asking a lot of tough questions and cain is being given some leeway, because a, he's likable, b, people are sort of craving an outsider candidate. he fits that mold. while the tep opened up the floor to unconventional candidates the result can sometimes be that the unconventional candidate don't have the conventional knowledge
base on certain issues when they come into the race. bill: but everybody is working, he's working hard, everybody is working hard. that's what you need to do in order to compete. >> oh, i mean he's doing seven or eight events a day they say. there have been critiques he is not doing enough events in the early states. he's leading on a national level, he's a likable, funny guy who tells a great story, but when it comes to the early states he's not leading there. it may be that they need to focus and do fire events but do them focused in the right places. bill: you know what the perry campaign is doing. they are questioning whether or not they should participate in all the debates coming up. they are going to take it case-by-case, debate by debate. >> i think a little bit of this kind of thing can sound like excuse making, which you shouldn't be doing you need to be level to go on a national level.
bill: that can be a dangerous trap. >> you can make the point, i'm not sure we need 26 or 27 debates, which i'm open to this point. if you're the guy that has not shone in debates and been a real great performer you don't want to stay, i'm just going to step out next time. for both cain and perry that can be a dangerous thing. bill: we've got like 33 flavors of this stuff. listen, what cain are doing some have accused mitt romney of doing in accused of strategy. maybe accused is too strong of a word. the strategy would be to step back a little bit, don't always put yourself in the spotlight, and allow the other candidates to eat each other up. is that possibly what is at play here? >> i think romney has had the luxury of doing that, because he has been sort of a default front runner. although they cra version the nonromney candidate nobody has popped to the top and stay there. once they get to the top they've made mistake like cain has. that's worked fairly well for
romney. he spent this week reminding people that he does do some flip flopping, with the ballot initiatives in ohio and the flat tax. he may be losing a few numbers for that reason after this. bill: was it 33 flavors or was it 31. >> 31. bill: something is wrong about that hemmer. >> lord help us if we get to 31 debates. bill: thank you, mary catherineham. nice to see you, have a good weekend. >> thank you very much. martha: the big banks may be backing down from charging new fees. this got people so angry. some of america's largest banks have been testing out new fees for using your debit card in an effort to raise revenue that was lost when the rules went into effect last year. everybody said that this is exactly what would happen, and that's what happened. the uproar over the fees may be giving some of them a second shot. joined by charles payne. good morning, charles. in this article it says they did
eight months of consumer testing to find out whether or not people wanted an extra charge on their debit card. i could have told them that in about 30 seconds. >> yeah, somebody made a lot of money. martha: exactly. >> it wasn't the eight months that really messed them up. it was the last month that the bank of america did it and they had a skwraoeupbtd backlash. the thing is in this particular climate with occupy this. and blame that person, and go after the rich, and go after wall street, without a doubt the timing is bad on this. no one likes this idea. it does seem like it's hurting, a lot of these policies are hurting the poorer people, the people with the less amount of money in banks and the less amount of access to capital. without a doubt this is a move i think they had to do but i really, honestly believe at some point all of the banks that aren't going to do it yet will eventually do it. martha: that's the question. because, you know, we're a cynical lot and we'll all say if they are not going to get it that way they'll get it another way is that what they are
doing. >> city has a thing if you have less than $6,000 you pay an annual fee of 15 bucks. the bank stocks are near 2008, 2009 lows. i know we hear about all the money they have, they've got serious issues on how to make money in this particular climate. for most of them they'll have to wait it out. they are giant banks. from bank of america's point of view it was a public relations fiasco. we'll wait and see how many people close their accounts. people huh and puff but rarely do they make a move with their feet. ultimately all of these banks are going to knit pick. the sad thing is to your point earlier, new regulations by the government getting banks to get a hold of more money, you have to make less money and this is exactly what they did. martha: they told congress and the regulator if you do that they will pass the fees onto the consumer. that's exactly what has happened. thank you charles very much. put your money under your
mattress. i think that's a good idea. bill: the country of sweden offers what some say is the most generous asylum and welfare policies but critics say that is turning that country of sweden into a smaller saudi arabia. amy kellogg back from the country. what are they saying in stockholm. >> reporter: it is a nationwide debate that is going on. the far right sweden democrats say that the large influx of muslim immigrants is actually the demographic equivalent to having a small sized muslim city spring up each year in this traditionally very homogeneous society. proponents of the immigration policy say it's very important to bring in fresh blood in order to beef up the workforce and sustain the welfare state but others slap that argument right down. >> it doesn't solve anything by importing immigrants to this country. and besides, even if it did help, which it don't, what we're
doing is exchanging one population for another. i mean we're basically exchanging the country. >> reporter: now, bill other sweds say that the open door policy on immigration is simply the swedish way. bill: well, what has led to the backlash, amy? >> reporter: well, the backlash is quite recent, but this immigration policy has been ongoing since the 70s. but finally it's at a point, we were in malmo, which has the highest concentration per kappa taf immigrants, and what's happened is that there is backlash against the changing face of this community, which is 1/3rd immigrants, 1/4 from a foreign country. those immigrants feel unwelcome. there have been riot, they've attacked firefighters. a islam a islamaphobic
backlash. they are debating how to go forward. bill: we've seen it develop in other countries, especially europe. thank you, amy. martha: bill you don't need a driver's license or a passport in one section of the united states of america to prove who you are. a mexican consulate car is perfectly acceptable. thinks coming up. bill: a teacher facing justice convicted of sleeping with members of a high school football team. now she has been given her sentence. >> you suffered through depression, you've lost motivation, almost didn't go to college. you were angry at home. you didn't want to be around family or anyone. my son was not who he used to be. i'm not a number.
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parents of the students told heartbreaking tales about changes in their own children as a result. >> these young men may appear as tough guys. but in reality they are truly hurting. he lost faith in god. people are evil. he no longer sees the good in people. he never displayed this attitude before. as his mother i am devastated. bill: that out of ohio north of cincinnati. prosecutors say she invited five teenagers, football players to her home reportedly allowing hem to drink and phoebg marijuana, then having sex with all of them. the judge could have sentenced her to prison for 80 years. martha: there is a debate ranging in sonoma, county, california. police are now saying that they will accept mexican id cards as a valid form of identification in order to reduce the number of
deportations. a lot of people scratching mayor heeds about this one. i'm joined by arizona sheriff paul bac babue. he has been on the front of immigration issues and maybe is considering running for congress. thanks for joining us this morning. >> thanks for having me on. martha: this is odd. why would any community accept a mexican cons ooh lar id at a legitimate form of identification? >> basically you're saying that, come on in, and you're giving your approval, and i can tell you being in arizona, and law enforcement, that doesn't end well that -- to basically give an identification and say you're going to recognize that. this is an identification issue, the ma particula the metricular consular card. it's not a driver's license
where you can drive on the streets. it's basically here is your identification. and when our government recognizes it as a legitimate form of identification that leads to a whole series of other things. martha: understood. what is the scenario under which somebody would be confronted by a law enforcement official and then shown this id and then that is okay, then they can go on with their business? it's a bit hard to get your brain around. >> for lesser crimes or any contact that now even say in arizona, if you don't have a photo identification, a legitimate photo id when you're driving that is cause for arrest, people know that. so any contact now when there is not a recognized -- because there is such fraud and abuse of documents, and even quality documents, so now we are stating at the government in this county that we are going to recognize this as a legitimate form of id in america. it's specifically for illegal immigrants.
that is a bad idea. martha: do you think there is an economic reason behind this? we've heard a lot of stories about farming in california, the fruits, the vegetables, the corn is not getting picked because they don't have enough time who want those jobs to come in and do it. is this a way to help out those farmers? >> this is the problem with our federal government and the inaction is we don't have a solution, that in the absence of dealing with this issue, without having a legitimate guessworker program, that we are seeing disp disparate enforcement. and this is where washington lacks leadership and solutions. the first step is to secure the border. then we can get to something reasonable that most americans would support in the form of guest worker perhaps that doesn't give citizenship. martha: isn't this essentially a guest worker program then? >> i guess this is the wrong way to go about it. when you start to -- it's not only sanctuary communities, but
we as a nation -- this is a federal issue and when you have all this type of, we're going to give in-state tuition, we're going a approve the d.r.e.a.m. act, this is all on the backs of the american people and taxpayers, those of us who work for our money and living. martha: paul babue, sheriff, thank you very much. good to have you with us on this. bill: now checking in with jenna lee to see what is up next on "happening now." what is "happening now" as we like to say. jenna: i've had about 15 cups of coffee since i was update watching the world series. anything could happen at this point. it's completely off the rails. we have big stories to cover today, including the new developments in the fast and furious and solyndra scandals. rick perry is taking on mitt romney in new hampshire today, the gop race is heating up. and geraldo rivera on breaking news in the baby lisa case and a few of our other top ongoing investigations we are taking a look at on "happening now." bill: jenna that game got over
at 1:00 in the morning east coast time. jenna: some of us need our beauty sleep lens others. bill: three hours of beauty sleep you're going to let it rip. we will ear watching. see you later jenna. breaking news. world out of boston, a cruise liner has just docked in boston. it did not plan to dock there and two passengers on board are dead. we're working through this information. the early report indicates a 67-year-old woman died of what appears to be natural causes, her death not considered suspicious. a 23-year-old man is dead also, his death is not known as to why he died, his cabin is being processed for possible evidence. one ship docking in boston with two people on board, both of dead. no names released. we'll get you some answers on that in a moment here. there are new questions about the american cleric and al-qaida leader now dead anwar al-awlaki. even after his death there were questions about whether or not he played a role in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. there is fox news exclusive
information you will only get here on that next. martha: plus a bizarre twist in the case of missing baby lis air within. the parents' lawyers making a sudden and surprising announcement. geraldo rivera on breaking news in that case. >> everything has changed. we don't have her. so everything is different. sorry. is frowned upon in this establishment! luckily though, ya know, i conceal this bad boy underneath my blanket just so i can get on e-trade and check my investment portfolio, research stocks, and set conditional orders. wait, why are you taking... oh, i see. hey max, would it kill you to throw a guy a warning bark? [ dog barks ] you know i wanted a bird. [ male announcer ] e-trade. investing unleashed.
guards have been wounded in this situation. it is on on going situation. we'll get you the very latest and update as it comes in. bill: exclusive information about the slain al-qaida propaganda chief anwar al-awlaki, an american born. a congressional committee wants investigators to question 9/11 suspects now being held at gitmo, did the radical cleric have a role in the 9/11 that killed over 3,000 americans. what have you learned about who wants the 9/11 suspects questioned, catherine? >> reporter: well good morning, bill and thank you. fox news was first to obtain this letter sent by the chairman of the house homeland community peter king to the head of the defense intelligence agency asking that the 9/11 suspects durin. these are exclusive pictures obtained by the fox special unit
of the jordanian national who helped the hijackers in virginia in the summer of 2001 three months before the attack, and a syrian national who is a close associate of the american cleric, the first american on the cia's killer capture list. fox news found the syrian still leaving here in the u.s. >> i'm very upset about that really. [inaudible. >> reporter: the syrians waiting to hear whether he will be deported from the u.s. immigration officials moved to pull his status for reasons of national security that remain under seal, bill. bill: catherine he was killed about a month ago. why does anwar al-awlaki still matter. >> reporter: well it matters, this is real it first time in the decade that i've covered this area that i've seen congressional investigators ask that the 9/11 suspects be questioned about the possible inch srofplt of an american citizen in those attacks and it
seems clear that the full story of 9/11 and the support network that helped the hijackers has never fully really been told, bill. bill: it is first on fox. catherine herridge thank you. martha: a serial rapist is on the lose in dallas. police say that he is targeting older members of a sorority. profilers want to know who could be behind this. [ monitor beeping ]
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