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and republicans want kids with autism and fend for themselves? greta is next see you tomorrow night. >> greta: on the attack, the target is america's unemployed. >> it's the people out there. the angel people get off the couch and get yourself a job. >> greta: what does rick perry think about those comments. we are live in dallas, texas. rush limbaugh blasted go the media over the primary battle. >> it never occurs to anybody in the news media that the republicans in indiana might just want a more conservative senator. >> greta: also we have late breaking results from the indiana race and if you are outraged by the gsa waste of your money on parties with
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clowns. does the gsa think it's a billing joke. hear from the director. motivating or insulting. paul lepage sending this message to america's unemployed. >> to cannibalize it the rest of state government. i am compassionate and committed to our children, our families and our disabled but to all you able people out there, get off the couch and get yourself a job! >> greta: does he have a point or did he go too far. good evening, governor? >> glad to have you in infections. >> greta: republican governor in maine, they should get off the couch and get a job? >> absolutely. it's our responsibility to make
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sure we put good tax policies and good regulatory policies in place so that those jobs can be created. 330,000 new jobs created in the state of texas from february 2011 to 2012. i any we're doing our part in the state of texas. other governors need ton challenged to put those policies in place to make sure they have those jobs that are created for people that are looking for work. folks on the welfare ride for the sake of welfare ride, you bet. governor lepage is spot on. the fact is we both have our jobs to do. >> greta: but people that are able-bodied may be insulted by that. there are a lot of people that have been without jobs for a number of months. houses are under water. do you think saying able-bodied people get off the couch is
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rather prudent way to encourage people? >> here is what i think. i think state governments need to be doing everything they can to make sure the jobs are created there. federal government doesn't help us by their stimulus programs and spending they have done and regulatory climate. they have done important to kill jobs than to talk people away from extending dollars and creating those opportunities for wealth. that is what we need to be doing. the idea that a governor cajoling folks to get involved with the work force, there may be folks that might be offended by that but i'm not. >> let's talk about illegal immigration. i think you wrote a letter, about the obama administration is allowing children who are not citizens of the united states to come across the border into your state unlawfully? >> about 80% of all of these
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unaccompanied minors are coming in across texas border. you go back and illegal immigration has been an issue for many years here. compounded by the drug cartels realizing that the mexican u.s. border they could operate without impunity. they have operational control on some sides of the border. we have 23 citizens in mexico most likely, i don't know if they have been identified yet, cartel battle going on there. you have the illegal immigration issue and compound it with the drug cartels. then a new phenomenon we are seeing now. this is within the last six months or so. we've seen 5200 unaccompanied young people, we're talking to 8 to 9-year-olds that are coming
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from south america and we don't know all the details yet about how mexico is dealing with this. they are coming to the texas border and crossing the border. and taking them into refugee resettlement, vast majority we had 1400 of them in just in march that showed up with health problems, with chickenpox. the health side of this is disconcerting as anything, but they are coming in and almost 90% of them are being resettled here in the united states. the president of united states needs to deal with this. he needs to be talking to presidents of those countries to stop it. these are kids that are going on rail cards, riding on the top on rail cards through mexico.
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sexual assaults that are occurring. all of this is great consternation for any of us. when they are dumped on our cities and counties and state is expected to pick up the costs. quick giving these individuals initiatives to come up and we resettled in united states. look at china, we have a dissident we're pushing back in the form of mr. check, then we've got open arms with this -- mr. chen because we're not sending a message, we're not going to allow you to come in. and we're not going to take them back to their country. >> greta: one is the financial burden on your state. there is humanitarian issues, they are living essentially in
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custody, living in buildings these children are coming in. i saw a picture in the "wall street journal" today? >> these children have not been vaccinated for any diseases that are out there. they are bringing them in. in some cases we have known case of chickenpox. we had to quarantine the entire facility. >> greta: what are the numbers? >> that is one of problems, the federal government is giving us 24 hours. this is not our responsibility. yes, you've got helpful us deal with this. the issue goes back, we fought this fight with washington for a long time about their lack of securing the border. you hear them talk about, immigration numbers are down. we had 57% increase since 2008 of our drug seizures along that border. >> greta: the numbers i've seen,
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more people are going south into but what is stunning to me is the number of children that are coming alone. when i saw the picture of them living on this cots. they don't have parents here. no is to take custody of these children? >> it's a huge problem. the federal government is dumping on our state. 80% of them coming into texas, it's not a big problem for arizona or california as it is for texas. >> greta: you have written a letter before? >> we'll keep asking. >> greta: you are quite a letter writer? >> this is standing up for the state of texas. they expect their governor to lead on these issues. the bottom line we have a federal government that is failing us when it comes to border security. failing us when it comes to dealing with those issues.
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let's send a clear message and their leadership you have to deal with this. we can't be responsible for being the repository for your citizens that you send up here or allowing them to come. we've got to have our government send a clear message to the state department and other avenues to stop this. >> big win for the tea party, richard murdoch winning. is this a reflection the tea party is isolated to one particular state? >> i don't think so. my race for governor back in 2010, you had a substantial united states senator and that was a substantial victory against the washington status quo. i think that is what you see with lugar and murdoch. people are fed up with washington, d.c.. >> they are fed up with the spending and people telling us, it's just the status quo. we don't know how to make it
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better? yes, we do. send people to washington, d.c. that really are going to represent the people's will in this country. >> greta: explain how they run against either and say the worst things against each other, calling them socialist, flip-flopers and saying horrible things, everybody is patting everybody on back like we're all great friends. we saw those ads? >> there is some theater that goes on. i think all of us has been realize there is theater that goes on. >> greta: i just maybe -- more inclined to hold a grudge? >> my focus is we have to beat barack obama in november. mitt romney is the individual that is still standing. i'm going to for him and helping him. he will be multiple times better for this country than barack
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obama. four more years of barack obama will be deadly. >> greta: the statement from republican party, our guys is bad as yours. >> i don't think that was the case at all. when you look at the candidates and look where barack obama has taken america from the standpoint of our jobs numbers and spending and the debt. young people. i don't know how anyone who is 21 to 40 years old and look at presidential election, we're going to vote for republicans because there is sanity there in spending and getting it under control. >> greta: nice to see you. do you think it's funny, somebody sells wasting your money, gsa is cracking jokes about the scandal. we tracked down the active administrator. we sent griff jenkins out to
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investigate the growing scandal. >> it's been less than a month since we were introduced to the lavish spending and culture of waste at the gsa. >> we can pick up the sushi but $44 for breakfast. i can't spend $44 for breakfast. somebody to say that. >> big government doesn't work. it doesn't work. this is not the way the private sector works. i think what we need to talk about, what do we do instead of the gsa. >> the goals we impose, not eagle following it's own damn rules. >> you are so quick to make someone else's follow the rules and you can't follow your own rules. >> $800,000 spent on a conference, regional directors in hot tubs with glasses of wine in a rap video mocking it all. ♪
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♪ >> reporter: this is from the agency whose job it is to save the taxpayer's money. we tracked down the acting administrator at a townhall morning public service recognition week to find out what they are doing to fix the problem. >> reporter: what else have you learned in hindsight how it is going forward to find real savings to earn back the public's trust? >> i appreciate the question. in the couple weeks since the hearings, in talking to talking to the gsa employees and i've been doing a series of town halls, using technology to visit agents. [ laughter ] >> and also modeling for the employees there are other ways we can a make those connections. what i've learned there is as much anger or disappointment and frustration with the gsa
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employees as with the american congress and american opinion that what took place. it doesn't reflect the commitment to those employees to deliver services. we have been able to spark a conversation, among employees with their supervisors and have great ideas for the american taxpayer. that is our challenge is to take those great ideas and deliver great services to my agency partners. we frankly need it more than ever. >> reporter: you mentioned in the beginning, the government savings agency. is there one specific example that you are looking at now you can kind of get to work and not deal with everybody in the media, this is what we're going to and we'll save money with this? >> he already not got on an airplane. [ laughter ] >> our three priorities is
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budget, budget, budget. it's helping solve the budget approximate of our agency partners. we're looking at things about how the government travels. how we make our travel reservations. we're looking at our talking to three agencies the ones that don't have their fleet managed in a cohesive unified way. find ways to provide strategic sourcing that procuring as one government, using the government to get the best possible price, doubling down things like sustainability so we can build buildings that actually reduce the cost of operations. that is the kind of work we found. its bunch of momentum developed around it. the question is how do we continue the momentum. >> reporter: thank you very much. i know you have taken a lot of heat with either of the other secretaries like to weigh in. >> when we got here this morning we all stressed we feel the
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same. >> greta: straight ahead. they say it's all about who you know. is that the case when it comes to justice department investigation of ms global. jon corzine and democratic u.s. senator and new jersey governor may be getting special treatment from the justice department. why? that is next and vice president joe biden blasting the bush administration. what is he blaming for. and rush limbaugh comes out swinging at mainstream media. why is he so hot about a political race? rush it's very important to understand how math and science kind of makes the world work. in high school, i had a physics teacher by the name of mr. davies. he made physics more than theoretical, he made it real for me. we built a guitar,
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. >> greta: former democratic governor jon corzine getting special treatment? he ran ms global until they managed to lose $1.6 billion money. nobody knows where the money went. the justice department is now investigating republican congressman wants the doj to step aside. he joins us. congressman grimm joins us. and you want doj to step aside
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you are a former f.b.i. agent yourself? >> i have a hundred percent faith in the f.b.i. what the problem is, i think it's more with s where the public stands with eric holder. an independent counsel is what we need. f.b.i. would still be doing the investigation and i'm sure they are doing a good job. f.b.i. doesn't prosecute the case. they have to turn the evidence over to the prosecutor. we are asking for a special prosecutor, an independent counsel. >> greta: i would suspect if the f.b.i. is investigating but i suspect it wouldn't be the doj prosecuting it but a subset which would be career prosecutors in the southern district of new york where they have career prosecutors. is that something you still don't find acceptable? >> i think it's bigger than that. the problem is jon corzine is seen by most americans,
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republicans and democrats as someone that has access all the way at the highest levels to the president. this past cycle from the beginning of january 2012 he is listed as one of the largest bunglers of the obama administration. i think it jeopardizes the way people feel in america with the confidence in our system as well as the integrity of our markets. that is the reason i'm calling for an independent counsel. if you look at the history, a lot of people feel he has been given special treatment since he started about mf global. >> i should note that jon corzine has raised $500,000 for the obama reelection campaign. it's a significant donor and fund-raiser for the campaign. i'm curious, where is in money. how did the money disappear and
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nobody knows where it is? >> i think at this point, the money has been found, but keep in mind it doesn't mean it has been recovered. which is another reason we need an independent counsel because the way the entire bankruptcy was structured. that is a problem in and of itself because some of the money was taken as collateral and shipped overseas. now these poor customers that were never creditors, they were customers and their money was supposed to be protected in accounts. it was illegally taken out of those accounts and sent as collateral. now it's overseas and it was taken as collateral and could take years. we learned from bear stearns and lehman brothers, it could take four years or not more to fight with foreign banks to get that money back putting these customers at a massive disadvantage and untenable and unacceptable position that goes to the heart of the integrity of our markets. that is why independent counsel
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is absolutely warranted. >> greta: you raise the question of money overseas. that was permitted a rule by cftc, the chairman worked at goldman sachs with senator corzine. it's an awful cozy group of people goldman sachs and this money. i guess to the extent we want to have the appearance of having no conflict, we could remove any chance of people being suspicious of an investigation. >> you are hitting the nail on the head. you look at the relationship between jon corzine and the chairman genzler and that is enough reason to make people suspicious. where is the downside for the attorney general, in light of the fact he handled fast and furious so terribly, in light of the solyndra, gsa scandal, he should be more than happy to
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turn this over to independent counsel and give people the semblance there isn't any i am pro private might here. >> there isn't any impropriety here. >> greta: i agree. i do agree with everything being connected it really did does -- i can understand why people would be suspicious of having the justice department doing it. we'll see what happens. >> i have looked at the southern district. they are topnotch and best of the best. i'm worried about much higher than that. we're talking about the administration itself. >> greta: congressman, thank you. >> coming up vice president joe biden is talking trash about the bush administration. what major things had did he say are president bush's fault. you will hear exactly what he said.
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. >> when we took office there was no international pressure on iran. we were the problem. we were diplomatically isolated in the world, in the region, in
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>> twerp the international pressure on iran was stuck in neutral. i'm proud of our record. i believe no president since harry truman has done more for israel's security than barack obama. >> greta: he is blaming bush administration for lack of pressure on iran. vice president speaking to a group of 1600 rabbis in atlanta. one thing is clear, not everyone agrees with what the vice president said. bob kagen is senator fellow at brookings institute. i understand you are joining us in your own right? >> yes, it is. >> greta: what do you think the vice president said? >> it's ludicrous. he actually knows it's ludicrous. he was foreign relations
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committee chairman. he managed to get through u.n. resolutions with european support with the russians and chinese. all that the obama administration did in 2010 is build on it and tighten those. it's ludicrous to suggest that united states wasn't able to do until the obama administration got there. unfortunately obama administration but the sanctions have not been effective at all. >> greta: what i find -- i don't know surprise is right, vice president biden, jewish vote is very important to both parties, he pledged that the obama administration will prevent iran gaining nuclear weapons by whatever means necessary. as i understand it. the israelis, i don't know for sure but they make it looks like time is of the essence.
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they team the to be gearing up, saber rattling from time to time. vice president biden, mahmoud ahmadinejad will be gone in two years. where do we get this two years? how does israel know we have two years and why are we relying on that? this is dangerous situation for that region? >> there is no evidence of that. people are always hoping. in fact, when the obama administration had an opportunity to support people who were trying to overthrow this regime, we're trying to get greater openness and iran back in the summer of 2009, at that time the obama administration was so interested in reaching out to the ayatollah and iranian leadership they basically did nothing for the green revolution. they had an opportunity to make progress on that. i don't know what vice president biden thinks is going to happen in two years. we do know what happened in 2009. >> greta: i think many people
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looking back the failure of president obama's was slow to say anything about the green revolution. it was slow to say anything. and longer he waited, the people on the streets had their backs against amd. but on the eve an election and saying don't worry he'll be gone in two years. that is my bet. i don't know how convincing it should be? >> i don't think anybody should be convinced by any of this. the administration feels vulnerability and one is iran and progress is not good. let's face it. when they came in just technical details, iran was running 4,000 centrifuges, four years later they are running 9,000 centrifuges. they feel vulnerable on israel
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as well which accounts for vice president's other bizarre statements. >> greta: he said we were the problem. we have a problem going back to 1979 during the carter administration what happened in our embassy. any thought on we were the problem. do you have any sort of idea what he was trying to say? >> what he was trying to say but the words were not well chosen. it makes it sound like america is the problem and not iran. somehow the bush administration was so isolated internationally they were unable to accomplish anything with iran, any diplomatic support against iran. again that is just not true. as i'm sure the vice president knows. bush administration did just about as well as this administration in getting international support and getting resolutions. it's ironic. if you look at american approval ratings in the muslim world,
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they are lower today than under the bush administration. the notion that the united states was completely isolated under bush and completely embraced by everybody is belied by the facts. >> greta: we went to the president's speech about two and a half years ago. there was much hope by many. from what you tell me, it didn't work at all? >> the recent polls show america's approval rating in egypt is about 20% which is lower than it was in the bush years. it's 10% in turkey which is lower than it was at the time of the iraq war. so whatever else is going on, it's not clear to me that the administration is really gained in terms of what obama set out in his goal in that speech which is improve relations with the muslim world. >> greta: thank you.
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>> joran van der sloot headed to the united states? he doesn't want to come here. telling a judge he will fight extradition to the united states. he is facing extortion charges in alabama. he is accused of accepting $25,000 to lead natalee holloway's mother to her body. she is presumed dead but her body has never been found. right now he is serving a 28 year sentence in peru where he murdered a young woman two years ago. a conviction in the extortion case would prevent him from getting early parole. >> coming up, giant news in the indiana senate race. rush limbaugh has plenty to say about it. in two minutes, bill maher slamming bristol palin. you won't believe what he said you won't believe what he said about her down here, folks measure commitment by what's getting done. you won't believe what he said about her the twenty billion doars bp committed
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>> greta: bristol will name her next kid colt 45 after she gets done drinking after she gets pregnant. he has a history of saying nasty things about bristol and her mother. maher used his tv show to unleash a tirade about the memoir. you probably remember, bill maher gave a million dollars to the super pac for president obama and he never sent the money back. but the obama says they don't have any control over the funding of super pacs. countries took part in a science test.
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>> from america's news headquarters, i'm ainsley earhardt. the u.s. border patrol expanning its fleet of drones to aid in the hunt for illegal immigrants and drug smugglers. there are nine predator drones, but there are plans to nearly trip they'll number in the next few years. the goal, to be able to move a drone anywhere in the country within 3 hours. in the last 6 years, drones at the border have helped catch some 7500 suspects. more riveting testimony in the corruption trial of john edwards. a former supporter of the presidential hopeful said he knew wase of the affair and warned the obama campaign not to consider edwards as a runningmate. he is accused of using campaign cash to hide the mistress and the child. he claims he knew nothing about the payment. i'm ainsley earhardt. back to "on the record."
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check out our web site on foxnews.com. >> greta: tea party making its voice heard loud and clear in indiana. tonight richard murdoch the tea party backed candidate winning the senate primary. that means that richard lugar's career is coming to an end. good evening eric, i suppose it was no big surprise with all the polls we've been reading recently. a victory certainly for the very conservative tea party movement in indiana, right? >> this is absolutely true. now, the tea party supply the the, did supplied the ground troops. given the victory he can make a claim. he took advantage a couple things, an anti-incumbent mood and lugar's advancing age that gave a lot of people the sense maybe it was time to move on. >> greta: i would have been suspicious but the fact there was a big controversy where
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richard lugar, whether he lived in indiana or virginia. he has been in the senate for 36 years. an anti-out of touch, you are a washington guy and indiana guy. does it have any touch of that? >> sure, absolutely. his entire argument was that ligar had lost touch. residency thing was case in point. that was powerful. murdoch called that a turning points. it would be hard to argue with it. >> greta: mr. murdoch will be running against a congressman, the democrat in november. how do those go against each other? >> there haven't been many polls but it will be closer than lugar versus donnelly would have been. expected them to make a big fact that lugar took it to the supreme court to the chrysler bankruptcy proceedings. he was arguing on a group of
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pension funds, donnelly expects to say that would have cost thousands of jobs in automotive industry in indiana. that is what he will start hitting him in the coming days, absolutely. >> what will murdoch will be hitting donnelly with? >> he is going to paint him with much the same brush as he did lugar. pointing to him that is willing to work across aisle where more strident ideology is necessary. donnelly is a democrat and voted for healthcare reform. that is something that murdoch will clearly make an issue of. he will be well founded. establishment, republican party in indiana is going to rally around him in the coming days. he is going to try to run the same kind of campaign that dan coates did in 2010.
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we'll be watching. thank you. >> reporter: what does rush limbaugh have to say about lugar's battle. >> dick lugar, he a fine guy. he has been in the senate since 1977. he has been there a long time. time for establishment characteristics to settle in if they had to. he has been a moderate republican. i tell you, i hope that romney and his people are watching the indiana primary because they could learn a lot from it. all of the mainstream media coverage about the problems that lugar is encountering in his reelection, all the mainstream media coverage say that lugar is having problems because running a poor campaign. he sat on all his money instead of running ads early in the process. it never occurs to anybody in the news media that the
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republicans in indiana might just want a more conservative senator. as far as the media is concerned there is no ideological factor in this primary. it's a matter of strategy. when the media favorite has problems, when the candidate and media wants to win and the media behind lugar, what does it tell you all? we know media doesn't like conservatives or like republicans, but they want lugar. when their favorite candidate is in any race is luitsz go, noted it's not about issues, it's never about ideas, it's always about losing candidate employing a stupid, dumb strategy which is what they are saying about lugar. he was too confident. he sat on his money for too
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long. he sat on his patted for too long but murdoch has majority of republicans agree and like. >> greta: go to gretawire.com and tell us what you think. we know who will run against scott walker. mayor tom barrett, he beat three our other candidates. mayor barrett will challenge governor walker in the recall election. governor walker and several other republicans are facing recall. they came under fire because of collective bargaining rights. it will be a rematch. two years ago mayor barrett lost by 5 percentage points for the governor's job. >> in north carolina, voters approving a constitutional amendment. it makes north carolina the 30th state to have a ban on gay marriage.
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they say the young pitcher does it with left arm to get the job done. >> and ultimate frisbee. bernie smith is a trick shot champion and best is taking by the internet by storm. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greta: that was amazing. there you have it. the best of the rest. coming up, president obama is
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11:00 is almost here, time for last call. what does president obama's campaign slogan really mean? >> the president says his campaign for a second term is still about hope and change. yeah. that is what he said. the president's words were i hope i won't have to change my address. >> that is your last call. we're closing down shop. thanks for being with us tonight. we'll see you all again tomorrow might. make sure gou to greta wire.com and keep it right here on fox news channel. good night from dallas, texas we'll see you tomorrow night, 10:00 p.m. eastern. go to greta wire.com. everybody is going there and

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