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and brian, they're not puppets. they're muppets. >> brian: you can follow us on twitter. you know our address. bill: we shall do that! morning, everybody! big show this morning. governor mitt romney that much closer to clenching the deal, set to become the presidential nominee after a primary in texas. now at 1183 delegates, over the number needed at 1444, team romney focusing on voters, saying it's time for the dreamers to start dreaming yet again. big wednesday morning, i'm bill hemmer and welcome to "america's newsroom". martha: good morning. that's big news. we talked about things going until june, perhaps a protested convention. all that changing, and governor romney is on the campaign trail and now as the candidate for the republican party. he says that he's fighting for americans who haven't seen any change since the
president took office. >> these last 3 1/2 years have not been good for the dreamers. as the governor just said, we heard a moment ago from one of these business owners that dreamers have had to put their dreams on hold. i got to tell you, that's one reason why so many people are having hard times. i want to get dreamers out there putting their dreams on the front burner again, starting enterprises, putting people to work. bill: let's get to rich lowry, editor for the national review, good morning. dreamers have their dreams on hold. what's the theme here? >> well, i think that's really the romney case in a nutshell, bill. it's going to be we can do better with this economy. and i think the romney campaign, it doesn't have to be complicated at all, it can be extremely simple, all they have to do is win the debate over the economy. that's going to be the big overwhelming debate in this election, all the microfocus on how is he going to win women, do among latinos, all
that is blown away and overwhelmed by the debate over the economy which every single voting group cares about more than anything else. and what we're going to hear from romney i think, bill, tonally is going to be fairly soft. it's going to be a sense of sadness. it's not going to be oxcore ating personally against president obama, he's not going to call him names, he's just going to say we can do better. bill: he was in nevada last night. that's going to be a critical area in terms of electoral votes in the end. you think romney needs to take the high road as the cap date is what you're suggest something. >> yeah, i think he's in a position where if he's a candidate about the bin campaigns and big ideas and the biggest issue facing the country, the economy, he's going to be in very good shape. -- in very good shape. the obama campaign is not going to be the hope and change at all. there was a huge piece where a reporter went and talked to the obama folks in chicago and they basically say their strategy is going to be small ball and tearing apart mitt romney personally. they're going to portray him
as basically hostile to women, hostile to minorities , this uncaring and callous plutocrat. they're going to have to go into the ditch to try to win this election at a time of high unemployment, when they really can't take the high road and talk about their record and one of of these aides says, bill, all things considered, they have preferred to run a 1984 ronald reagan morning again-style campaign, reelection campaign, but the conditions in the economy aren't there for them. bill: you're going to hear about that from governor romney a bit later this hour. rich, thank you, rich lowry here in new york. here's martha with more. martha: team romney also taking the fight to the obama campaign, countering attacks against the governor's business record saying while governor romney has been attacked for simply being successful in their mind, the president they say has squandered taxpayer dollars by funneling money to failed green energy companies like solyndra. other companies as well,
that align with the politics of the white house. so here is press secretary jay carney when he was pressed on this issues and asked what the difference really is in the way that bain handled some things are failing companies and what happened with solyndra. you decide how it went: >> how is that different from the romney's bain capital, where many succeeded and a few failed? >> there is the difference in that your overall view of what your responsibilities are as president and what your view of the economic future is, and the president believes as he's made clear that a president's responsibility is not just to those who win, but those who, if, for an example of a company where there have been layoffs or a company that's gone bankrupt, that we have to make sure that those folkies have the means to find other employment, that they have the ability to train for other kinds of
work, and that's part of the overall responsibility the president has. martha: so did you come away from that quite understanding what that was about? here now, stu varney, host of & stu varney & company". what was carney getting at and did he mac any sense. >> the question that was asked was why is bain evil and solyndra okay. that is not the question which jay carney answered. he answered all about the responsibility and the job of the president. not about the performance of bain or solyndra. so i don't think he answered the question directly. i mean, it was kind of an excruciating answer as he tried to perry and get around the question asked, why was bain evil and why is solyndra okay. i don't think he answered. martha: i think that what he was getting at, based on the other comments the white house has made on this, is that they believe that the job of the president is to sort of look out for people who do fall through the cracks and that that simply wasn't, and they don't
begrudge him this, that wasn't mitt romney's job, it was to make money for the shareholders and investors in bain capital, but i think that's what he was getting at. does that hold water in terms of an economic argument? >> no. there are two points which jay carney did not address. number one, what about due diligence? did the president do due diligence when he worked with solyndra, did he give a thorough background check about the chance of this business to succeed or did he rush into it, a reward of political favorites of his own administration. that's in contrast of bain capital which has to do all kinds of due diligence go it goes into a company and the second point, bain lost its own company, solyndra lost a half billion dollars of taxpayer money. a big difference. martha: raises the question of whether or not the government should be in the business of venture capital or providing seed money to these companies or for any companies, for that matter.
stuart, thank you very much, see you later on the business channel. bill: now that the governor is the guy, we want to know what's he like off the trail i had a chance to spend monday, memorial day, up close and personal with the romney family in san diego, california. a bit later this hour, his family and what he wants the american people to know about him. you'll see it 30 minutes away. not just him but also his wife, too. as we well know, they are a package deal, 43 years of marriage. it's interesting to have him -- to ask him a question and have her finish the answer. martha: that's what they often do, right? we do that sometimes! another big story out of the lone star state, another tea party favorite taking on a mainstream candidate and this time forcing a runoff. this race is getting a lot of attention, folks, today. long-time texas lieutenant governor david duherst is the candidate backed by the establishment in texas and governor rick perry as well but he fell short of the
50 percent he needed to avoid a runoff in his hope for the senate. his opponent is this young man, ted cruise, a houston lawyer and former state solicitor. he is backed by sarah palin: >> from day one, the strength of this campaign has been tens of thousands of tea party leaders and republican women and grassroots leaders that have stood up and said enough is enough. we want our country back. this race is ground zero in the battle between the moderate establishment and the conservative tea party tidal wave sweeping this country. martha: that man has got a lot of folks fired up and talking about that race. so the runoff is july 31st, tea party favorites have won primary necessary indiana, and nebraska, so they perhaps will have a very strong presence in the senate if they prevail. we'll talk about that that -- about that coming up later. bill: fox news alert, british supreme court just denying an extradition
appeal from wickileaks founder julianne assange, he has been hiding out in great britain for more than a year. he's wanted in sweden on charges he is responsible for the rape of two former wickileaks volunteers. his lawyers had argued the european arrest warrant for his extradition was not valid. assange made global headlines in 2010 when his website released thousands of u.s. classified military documents. we'll get you updatedates as we get them. martha: there is new information on the man that helped the u.s. find usama bin laden. pakistani officials are claiming that dr. shaquil afridi is facing 30 years in prison for aiding militants, not helping the cia. according to the just released documents, afridi's alleged tie toss militants amount to waging war against the state. yesterday we heard from the doctor's brother who told fox news that afridi had been tortured, starved and isolated in a pakistani
jail. his family is now appealing to the united states to help on his behalf. to the weather now, where there is major cleanup going on from the plains to the northeast today, after strong storms moved through. storms dropping an enormous amount of hail. we're also going reports that a couple of people were injured in those storms. some of the hail, said to be the size of softballs. look at that. bizarre. louisville, kentucky, water is the big problem for folks there, 3 inches of rain falling over just a few hours and that led to flash flooding. part of the university of louisville was sur merged, workers seen pushing a couple of inches of water from the chemistry building there. look at that. they are bringing out chain saw necessary upstate new york because the violent storm downed a lot of trees in that area, damaged homes and knocked out power, caused big traffic jams there as well and the severe weather threat is far from over. maria molina is here with the latest at the fox weather center.
hey maria. >> reporter: good morning martha. we had 400 reports of severe weather yesterday as you mentioned, over parts of the plains, into the northeast and it's thanks to the strong cool front pushing east wand. we have cooler air and dryer air and that's helping fuel the thunderstorms from the northeast and parts of the mid, south and into the plains and we're going to see another area of low pressure exit parts of the rockies and this system is going to head eastward and produce weather once again across oklahoma, northern parts of texas as well and also kansas, into southern parts of nebraska and the storm prediction center has issued a moderate risk for parts of oklahoma, southern kansas and also northern texas. that's the area shed in red where we have the greater chance to see longer track tornadoes, so stay alert if you live out there, make sure you heed the warnings and do get any tornado warnings across that region. right now, we don't have really any tornado warnings but we're already starting to see those showers and storms pushing through portions of oklahoma and
northeastern texas, and some of these storms could actually produce flash flooding which we've already been seeing in the oklahoma city area, martha, because they dump a lot of rain in a very short amount of time. martha: typical of this early summer period. maria, thank you very much, we'll keep an eye on it with your help. bill: certainly will. we're just getting started. he dominated headlines a year ago when he pushed to control unions and get pension costs under control, sparking massive protests in wisconsin. in one week, wisconsin governor scott walker faces a recall for that decision. we will talk to his lieutenant governor. her career is on the line, also. stay tuned for that live in a couple of minutes here. martha: and a massacre and new bloodshed has led to an emergency meeting over syria. is it time for the u.s. to take some action to help the people of syria? and why haven't we so far? we're going to talk about that. bill: disturbing new details in the search for isabel cellis, what police found
martha: here's the latest today in the rutgers web cam spying case. former student dharun ravi will begin his 30 day jail sentence starting tomorrow morning. ravi was convicted of using a web cam to spy on his roomate, tyler clemente's romantic encounter with youth man and clemente a couple of days later took his own life. during this trial ravi was criticized for not apologizing. the judge brought that up during the sentencing. in a new statement he is saying this: my behavior and actions which at no time were motivated by hate, bigotry, prejudice or desire to hurt, humiliate or embarrass anyone were
nonetheless the wrong choices and decisions. i apologize to everyone affected by those choices. so far, there has been no response from the parents of his roomate, tyler clemente. bill: there is a critical recall election in wisconsin, less than a week away now, grabbing national headlines about a year ago. remember these scenes? republican governor scott walker's decision to reign in unions sparked wild protests in madison, wisconsin. it went on for weeks. some of the more recent polling shows governor walker widening his lead over his opponent but rebecca clayfish is walker's lieu tenant governor, she also faces a recall effort and she's live with me in her home state. what is the sense about next week, victory or not? >> well, we feel good. i'll admit that. but i want to make sure that we are cautioning against com praisancey because even as you hear people trumpeting those new poll
numbers we've got to be real careful that we are identifying voters and getting folks out to the polls because we know that this race is going to tighten in the final days and the other side is angry. our opponents are spending millions upon millions of dollars in order to defeat us, because they understand that this is about either keeping taxpayers in control of their government or putting big special interests back in charge. bill: your opponents -- >> i don't believe that we the people are going to stand for it. bill: your opponent, a democrat, i think he ran the firefighters union for a while, perhaps he is still in charge of the firefighters in wisconsin. >> he is. bill: so he's a well known figure throughout the state, but outside of wisconsin, people are suggesting that the outcome next week tells us a lot about what could happen in november. do you agree with that? >> no document there's no question. we're a harbinger and we are a canary in the coal mine, we are sounding the alarm here in wisconsin. what happens here will have
a ripple effect all across the country. if we don't stand with political courage -- if we don't stand with political courage here in wisconsin you're going to look at every other leader in the state, in the county, down to the city level, even school boards, if they are not beholden to a special interest they'll feel the real and serious threat of a recall if they make a bold political decision. in addition to that, bill, i believe that this is going to be a big determiner of momentum in the presidential election. we're a very purple state. they're a passionate state. people talk a lot about the fact that wisconsin is the birth place of the public sector union. well, wisconsin isle the birth place of the republican party. and i believe that we're going to have taxpayers and hard working families, the workers of this state, come to the polls on the fifth of june and they are going to make a decision to move our straightforward, and i think that is going to have a big implication in the presidential race.
i think it is going to be a huge boost of momentum. bill: i did not hear a prediction in this particular interview. are you going to be victorious next week or not? >> we're going to win, bill. bill: thank you for your time. we will see what happens when voters go to the polls next week. rebecca kleefish, lieutenant governor, along with scott walker, the election is next week. we'll speak soon, thank you. >> my pleasure. martha: there are new details in the disappearance of little isabel cellis, six years old and gone for several weeks. what police have now found in the little girl's bedroom that could break this case wide open. bill: it could be a breakthrough in a seven-year-old cold case, george smith disappeared on a cruise ship, he was on his honeymoon. now there are reports the fbi may have new evidence that could shed light on his mystery. we'll talk to the family of george smith whose attorney way back in 2005 said
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bill: 24 minutes past the hour now. the wildfire raging in new mexico's hela national forest, close to becoming the largest in that state's history, firefighters working to contain the blaze two mires -- fires merged into one. >> the defense hopes in the roger clemens trial, his lawyers trying to hammer home that it was hard work and not steroids or human growth hormone that turned him into a pitching rocket house. >> in canada, weighing options after the company
that pioneered the smartphone says it's losing money and warns of layoffs. they've had a battle with apple over the past couple of years. i still use mine! martha: i don't use it anymore, i have to admit. bill: i have to get that sorted out. martha: it used to be the cutting edge thing, you know, not anymore. we'll see if they can pull it out. >> there are new developments we want to bring you up to date on in the case of this missing girl, six-year-old isabel cellis and police in arizona are saying they found what appears to be blood on the floor of her bedroom, as well as dark reddish brown stains from several items during a search the home. isabel's parents say they last saw their daughter inside her bedroom, more than one month ago, when she went to sleep. all of this raises a lot of questions and mark furman is here to help us sort them out, former lapd homicide de tentative of course and fox news contributor. mark, good morning, good to have you here.
>> thank you, good morning. martha: i had the same reaction when i read this this morning and looked it over because they could be anything. i mean t. depends on what kind of blood stains they were, who they belong to, whether or not tests were run on them. tell me a little about how you're approaching all of this at this point. >> well, martha, when you look at the scene, you have first the option of seeing how these stains are deposited, are they the product of somebody trying to clean them up, are they dropped, in other words, blooddrops where you can actually see movement or the absence of movement, are they cast off where something is struck and the fluid strikes some object, and you you can tell -- so let's just fast forward. the police know what it is. if they did a presumptive test at the scene for is it blood and is it human blood, then they know that. now, they found blood in the child's bathroom -- excuse me, bedroom, and they found
the same reddish brown stains in the vehicle that's inoperative on the property, and this is huge if those two stains are, in fact, isabel's blood, in those two locations. it now connects them forever, and it says volumes about this scene. martha: and you know, we know that from the beginning, the police have had some reservations about pursuing this and some reservations about them believing it was an outside person who came in and stole her out of her bedroom and frankly, some suspicions that they have expressed about family members. now, we don't know what happened here, but if this car, the -- the car had a shower curtain and a hat in the trunk. on those, apparently they found some of these stains as well, right? >> we, they did. and they certainly know at this date, they have not only discovered if it is human blood, but they know what the dna says, so they know whose blood it is, and if they've connected these
two locations, i'm going to tell you that now this indicates there was a hiding or a staging of the child in that inoperative vehicle, and that makes a stranger abduction slim to none. martha: you know, how do you look at all this now mark? and why would they just be releasing the information they found these stains? >> well, it's really -- it's really to their disadvantage. i can't imagine why anybody would ever want to release this in investigation before there's any kind of an arrest or a court proceeding. but they have, and it's because of the discovery laws in arizona. so they've done this, but they haven't told you it's human blood and they haven't told you if it is human blood, whose it is. so they've really left out the big pieces of the puzzle that would actually mean so much. but i will tell you this, detectives usually don't go around saying i think that's blood and they put it on paper and they continue
their investigation not knowing. they know if it's blood. they probably did a presumptive test. if there's enough of the evidence so they wouldn't damage the eventual outcome and identity of that evidence. so they know. martha: mark, thank you very much. mark furman. >> thank you. bill: all right. 9:29. we are on verdict watch in the john edwards case, the jury just beginning an eighth day of deliberations. we could get a decision any moment now, but for the moment, questions of dissension inside the jury room. could we be dealing with a deadlock? martha: it's gone on longer than anybody thought at this point. and the situation in syria, going from awful to absolutely horrifying. as we get more details about this massacre and the women and children involved. now governor mitt romney is saying where's the leadership on this from the white house? a fair and balanced debate about what should happen now, straight ahead. >> the world looks to america to lead. and we've been sitting in the back burner, hoping things would become arranged
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bill: we just got word moments ago, the jurors in john edwards' trial, back at it, and jonathan serrie is live in greensboro, north carolina. not sure what you're looking at there but read the signs, are they close? >> reporter: in fact, jurors gave the judge a note indicating potential scheduling conflicts over the next two weeks, which may be a possible indication that they are hunkering down for a long, drawn-out process. legal experts are split on what this call meanso when this all means. some suggest injure kwr-rs are at odds over whether john edwards is guilty of violating federal campaign finance laws but others say this is a complicated case and it's premature to guess what's going on behind the closed door of the jury room. listen: >> we shouldn't worry about the jury right now. a jury is like a fish in the
ocean. we don't know which way they're swimming. they could be reaching a verdict shortly. >> reporter: the judge scheduled jurors to begin deliberations 15 minutes early today and tomorrow. they will recess 15 minutes later than usual. the judge is doing this to accommodate the jury's request to leave early on friday to attend high school graduations and other family events. of course, that's no guarantee they'll have a verdict by then. bill. bill: day # rolls on. jonathan serrie in greensboro, north carolina. thank you. >> sure. martha: all right. we are just getting some reports crossing the wires of a bomb attack on an oil pipeline in syria. this is coming in from syrian state television. so we've not independently confirmed that. it crossed wire reports moments ago. so this is happening as the united nations is set to hold yet another emergency meeting this week on syria. that follows the massacre of more than 100 people, including dozens of women and young children who are
believed to have been killed, execution-style. they're saying most of the deaths did not come in bombing raids. and that has sparked international outrage. >> the videos that we have been receiving over the months are really the only way that we have to tell the tale of what is going on inside syria right now. and the white house has said that the u.s. will not intervene militarily in this conflict. governor mitt romney says that he believes the obama administration is fail to go lead on this. heresy during his interview with bill last weekend: >> the world looks to america to lead. and we've been sitting in the back burner, hoping things would become arranged in a way that was attractive to the world, but frankly, what's happening in syria is unacceptable. >> and at this point, you believe the administration has failed on that? >> well, i think they continue with a posture of
leading from behind. martha: bob beckel is former democratic campaign manager, andrea tantaros, daily columnist and both cohosts of the "five". this is a serious subject and something that a lot of people are concerned about in this country now. bob, what's your take on the white house's stance on this and what mitt romney had to say. >> this is a classic amateur of -- example of an amateur not knowing what he's talking about, mitt romney talking about not providing leadership and the next question is what would you do specifically about it. the idea of us getting involved militarily in syria will make afghanistan look like an invasion of the grand caymans. this is a complicated, complex, international situation. the united states is doing things. they're doing sanctions, they are leading the fight in the u.n. but in the end the question is do we or do we not commit military resores and if mitt romney thinks that's a good idea, frankly he's way out of his league.
martha: the feel, though, is, bob and and remarks that this is the end game, that assad will likely not survive all of this and if he does he's going to do it with brute military force, the likes of which the country probably hasn't seen yet, andrea. >> here's the issue and this is so tough, martha, because there are no good guys in this fight. bob is partially right and mitt romney is partially right. look, we do not want to commit troops, i wholeheartedly agree with bob, it's a civil war, we should not be militarizing anything in that country. however, i do -- and mitt romney, to be clear, didn't say that we should. he did say that we should provide arms to the rebels. now, there are dangers with that because the rebels are islamist so are we really going to arm them, that have tie toss al-qaeda. but this is it, obama needs to stand up and say and do more. the reason we got involved in libya was because there was a potential for genocide. the genocide in syria has happened, 12,000 people have
been slaughtered. the president cannot stand behind the u.n. he needs to put public pressure and stand up and show pictures of the genocide, put pressure on russia, put pressure on china, and he's failed to do that. martha: the president really embraced, bob, in so many ways, obviously, the fall of qaddafi in libya, the fall of mubarek in egypt. it feels as if the outspokenness and leadership from the white house during that phase of the arab spring was so much more forceful than what we're seeing now and what we're seeing now is absolutely horrific. >> if we go back to the news clips of what happened in that whole area, particularly in libya, when we -- obama was accused of leading from behind, not being out front, the same kind of talk i heard from mitt romney, and the fact of the matter was the united states did exactly the right thing and the outcome, we don't know what eventually the country will look like but at least qaddafi was gone, it is -- but syria, again, is so much more
complicated. you've got iranian elements in here, you've got who are the bad guys, who are the good guys. we don't know the answer is. martha: how much comfort is that to the families on the ground? >> >> well, what are you going to do about it? >> martha: i understand. but watching this, you read the reports of families that have been affected by this and they're asking where is the united states of america. >> and we -- >> martha: and andrea -- >> we sat around for -- >> martha: andrea, there used to be a more forceful voice from the president. >> 100 percent. iran's sole ally in the middle east is syria, so we have to do something. we can't sit silent. all we've done thus far is besides sanctions is expel led their top diplomat in washington, d.c. >> the president of the united states used his discretions. >> -- bob, it's everything that president obama said in his arguments for action in libya -- tpefrg he said about the actions in libya is true it should apply to syria as well. >> the dif is you don't have russia and china behind you and he tried in both cases
to do that. it's interesting for you all to sit here and say this but for ten years we watched genocide in darfur, did we do anything about it, rwanda, did we do anything about it, no. perhaps because it was africa. but the fact of the matter, the fact is, the united states could involve itself around the world in genocide, everybody worries about it but you'll feel differently when the first u.s. troops go down and ask ourselves is it worth getting involved in another country. >> i understand russia and china are allies but think about that, we can't put public pressure on? >> russia has had a decades-long alliance with syria. they're not going to give that up. >> they're doing the -- >> what is romney going to do? specifically. somebody ask him the question, specifically, what are you going to do? martha: bob -- >> bob, more public pressure, we know there is risk with arming the rebels.
that is not what romney is saying to do. martha: we're on the brink of the fourth u.n. discussion, basically, and they have been completely ineffective in doing anything in this situation. >> is that something new to anybody? >> martha: precisely. >> what is the ultimate answer, then, is to use force? is mitt romney will to go use force? if he is, have the guts to say so. martha: you can bet this is part of the discussion when we head into the debate days of how this is all handled, that discussion won't end here and we'll see you guys tonight, talking more about it, no doubt, on "the five". bill seven hours and 19 short minutes away from that, in fact. shocking video of a life or death struggle, a suspect turning his own weapon against him. we'll show you how that turned out. >> governor mitt romney, far away from policy and closer to home. a different side of the governor and his wife, as they appeal for the american vote.
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chance and most say they did not know enough about you. does that surprise you? >> i don't think so at this early stage. we're just beginning a general election, we've gone through a primary, not a lot of people have focused time on the characteristics of a new candidate like myself. and people will get to know me better. my guess is they're going to get to know more about me than they'd like to by the time we're finished. bill: a lot of people that have talked to me about that process think that you're a tough guy to crack. is there truth to that? >> it depends upon who's asking. >> you know, i don't -- i don't know whether that's the case or not. i think as people get to know me a little better, some will like me, some won't. it's probably the nature of most folks. bill: what do you think about that? >> it's just that he's very private, and the thing that is interesting for me is to see that there are those perceptions out there about how people think they know him. this is why i love having the opportunity to say this
is the narrative that i want and the real narrative and the real person. bill: that's part of the process in all that, but you ran a company in 2001, i think, that had $12 billion in assets. what kind of a boss were you? >> you have to ask the people who worked with me. fortunately -- >> bill: were you the first one in the morning, the last one to leave, did you take -- >> first one in the morning, no lunches, and the last one to leave. i mean, he is ao \on/zero he is the hardest working person i've ever met, besides his father, george romney, who was a crazy man. but he has so much energy -- >> bill: crazy good? >> crazy good. crazy unbelievable good and crazy -- >> they called my dad the brick, that was his nickname, the brick. just solid, you couldn't penetrate. bill: how would you describe yourself as a boss? >> i couldn't describe that but i didn't see myself as a boss. i saw myself as someone who would help organize extraordinary people and the
people i worked with and the firm i worked in were exceptionally bright, highly motivated with extraordinary insights, a number of them better than i on a series of dimensions and i was not always -- i was the guy that set the compensation but i paid other people more than i paid myself because i thought they were doing a better job. bill: here you are, traveling all over the country and you're meeting with middle class families that have been through some kind of trauma over the past four years. and they were fighting to stay alive. just to get through it. you know, save themselves and their kids from drowning. financially speaking. how do you make a connection to those people? >> you know, as i speak to people that are middle america, what i find is that the statistics understate the kind of pain and insecurity that exists in american homes. i see people who may be employed, but are very concerned they could lose their job at any time.
bill: and back to the connection aspect of this, there will be people, and you know this already, who will look at you as just a successful rich guy. >> like fdr and john f. kennedy, and there have been plenty of people. this is -- >> just the -- how do you respond to this? >> this is not a nation that divides people based upon whether they've been successful or not. we don't say boy, this person won the lottery, therefore they can't understand me. we instead look at people and celebrate their success and achievement and we look for people who have the skills we think will make our lives better. the real need in america is to help middle income families get good jobs with rising incomes and more security and help people who are poor come out of poverty and become middle income. bill: that from san diego a few days ago. a bit later today and tomorrow, a bit more on romney, on his faith and more on his family and perhaps a side you've not seen or been introduced to him just yet.
if you're looking for policy, that's really not the intention for why we went to california. this is really right to get to know this man, because he's going to be in your living rooms now for at least the next six months and possibly a lot longer thaf a. martha: you like at the likability numbers which he's had a tough time with to a certain extent, this gives people a window to decide for themselves based a little more understanding of who he is, and it's fascinating so we're looking forward to the next part. thank you bill. interesting stuff. so we talked about the recall effort a little while ago in washington -- in waze, wisconsin, i should say, but that's nothing compared to what's going on in michigan now. governor rick schneider has signed legislation that could set a new national precedent, an even tier one, for dealing with pension costs and union power. wait until you hear the michigan story here, when we come back. call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today.
martha: let's take a look at the market, getting hit this morning, down 126 points, investors reacting to shaky economic news out of europe. that seems to be the every other day story in this market. they're also expected to move on the new housing market numbers as we await. the dow closed up, 125 points on tuesday, despite pretty rough consumer confidence numbers that came out yesterday. so we'll see what this contrary market has in store for us today, we'll keep an eye on it for you. bill: a day of dramamine. stunning new cell phone video lighting up the internet, a harrowing life and death matter as an officer fighting for his life as a rob -- as a robbery suspect beats him with his own baton. david lee miller has stein this and what do we know about the video? >> reporter: this is an incident that happened early they are month t. went viral on the internet and now the philadelphia police say this video will likely be used in training. let's take a look at what was recorded on someone's cell phone. here you see a young officer
who responded to a robbery, he got into a fight with a suspect, the man was high on construction drugs. as you mentioned he grabbed the officer's baton, the officer repeatedly yelled for help, the officer shouted that the robbery suspect was trying to grab his gun. don't see this on the tape because everyone hit the deck, the officer did fire his weapon, he hit the suspect as many as four times. the suspect, though, still continued to fight back. he was finally subdued after backup arrived. the officer we're told, recovering from head injuries, the gunman facing charges of attempted murder. this matter is being investigated by internal affairs and the d.a. but the shooting, philadelphia police say, appears justified. a spokesman for the police department there says this recording is a reminder of what police officers face every day. listen: >> every officer has had an instance where they're machineo a mono, one on one and you're fighting unfortunately almost to the death here. >> reporter: if you take a look at that tape, one thing
is glaring me missing, although there was a crowd watching, no one intervened or helped the officer. the person who recorded this on the cell phone apparently did not bother to use that phone to call for assistance to help the officer. fortunately, this had a relatively happy ending, especially for the officer. bill: indeed it did. david lee, thank you for that. david lee miller on that story for us in our newsroom in new york. martha. martha: coming up, a possible break in a cold case. a newlywed who must earously vanished during a honeymoon cruise. remember this story? that was seven years ago. but now there is new information in this case. the fbi, with an incriminating video in the george smith disappearance. bill: also what sparked this reaction? we're going to talk to the lawmaker you're about to see about what was going on. >> i got to figure out how
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martha:martha: a fox news alert, tempers tphra*euring on the floor of the state legislature as pension reform took center stage. watch this. >> these damn bills, all the damn time, come out here at the last, and i got to try to figure out how to vote for my people, how ashamed you should be. you should be ashamed of
yourselves. we give power to one person. martha: how about that? lawmakers in illinois. look to go solve some crucial budget problems, though. and that has them very fired up. as you can see. republican mike baust went on a tirade over a new proposal and he will be our guest live in "america's newsroom". that's coming up. you don't want to miss that. we'll find out what got him so fired up. bill bi-wasn't the yankees game. martha: a tea party-backed candidate surging in a lone star state and that has set up a very surprising and major battle for a coveted senate seat in texas, lieutenant governor david duherst is the favorite in this race but the problem is he only took 45 percent of the vote in last night's primary in texas. very shocking. that has forced a runoff against an insurgent candidate named ted cruz, who's also from the area, obviously, and that's how we start a brand new hour of "america's newsroom", i'll martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hell heller.
this cruz guy is a houston lawyer and backed by antiestablishment figure, people like sarah palin have supported him, but if he beats duherst he's expected to win the seat in texas. >> this race is ground zero in the battle between the moderate establishment and the conservative tea party tidal wave sweeping this country. >> we've seen a clear message from the voters to the washington insiders, special interests, don't mess with texas. martha: everybody is fighting to get on the outside of washington in that race it sounds like, ed rollins joins me now, former campaign director for the bush ticket in 19 # four, also chairman of mike huckabee's campaign for president and former campaign manager for michele bachmann and fox news contributor. good morning sir. >> good morning. martha: what do you make of this race and what's going on in texas, what does it mean? >> there's all the makings of an upset coming. not that ted cruz is a
traditional tea party candidate. he's a corporate lawyer, make probably a million dollars a year, and not that dave dewhurst is a moderate. texas is all screwed up because of the reinforcement battle and the primary was off. cruz had a strong grass roots endorsement by people like sarah palin and others, dewherst was endorsed by governor perry, a lot of media, unspent his opponents 2-1 but clearly didn't turn out a vote that maximizes his support. martha: it's fascinating to me because one of the questions in politics is what happened to the tea party. they didn't really end up with a presidential candidate in this race and they seemed to be focusing on some of the smaller races and really trying to have some influence over the senate and house races as well. do you think there they're as strong as they once were a force in this and do races like this suggest they are? >> they're alive and well,
let me just say that, and whether they're as strong as they were in 2010, we'll see 2010, the mission was purely go out and vote against democrat incumbents and they did that very effectively. here it's getting involved in primaries. they took out dick lugar in indiana, they put in a tea party candidate in a race in nebraska, upsetting the favorites and obviously, yesterday, they did extremely well and stopped duherst, who's been lieutenant governor, the most powerful position in texas since 2003, engineer, basically they stopped him, so my sense is they're there, we've got to deal with them, whether they've good candidate or not in the presidential race. it was a matter of no candidate to support at the end of the day. martha: interesting race, one to watch. we'll talk to you soon, sir. bill: got a fox news alert from the vatican, the pope responding for the first time to a massive scandal starting to rock the vatican. yesterday we talked about how the pope's personal
butler is under arrest, aaccused of leaking secret church documents revealing suspected cronyism and corruption, although a major phro*e to the catholic church, the spokesman says the pope is personally taking that even harder. listen here. >> the pope, this has hit him personally. the situation which we have spoken about with great discretion is a painful situation for him. bill: few at the vatican believe the butler worked by himself, a team of investigators and cardinals searching for whomever else may be involved in that. we'll get details when we come. o when we can. martha: well, president obama catching flack for a comment during a ceremony that was honoring a fallen war hero. a post humous medical a of freedom for a polish fighter who battled the occupation during world war ii. >> yan served as a courier for the polish resistance during the darkest days of world war ii, before one trip across enemy lines
resistance fighters told him jews were being murdered on a macive scale and smuggled him into the polish damp camp to see for himself, yan took that information to franklin roosevelt, giving one of the first accounts of the holocaust and imploring the world to take action. martha: he said polish death camp, something that poland takes issue with since it was the nazis who ran the catches and not the pols, a white house national security spokesman said the president simply misspoke in this case, he was deferring to nazi death camps in poland. they say they regret that misstatement which should not detract from the clear intention which was to honor mr. kars ask. i. bill: got to be careful. bob dylan was at the white house. a shot of bobby d! martha: he wore sunday glass the whole time. the president said he was a big fan and clearly got a
big kick out of that. bill: stay tuned for a shot of bobby d. new this morning britain supreme court, with the extradition of julian assange to sweden, he is facing accusations of rape and sexual assault and greg palkot is on that story out of london. what happened in that court today gregg? >> reporter: britain highest court ruled that assange should go back to sweden and face the music for those 2010 sex charges. but it also said that the defense lawyers for assange could have another two weeks to challenge the ruling. one legal expert told me -- here is the wrinkle, it's all based on a technicality, the extradition order was issued by a swedish prosecutor. the defense lawyers say it should have come from a judge. the supreme court today disagreed. but it based its ruling on a treaty that they hadn't mentioned in earlier hearings. so a little bit of hiccup on the legal side, billle bill: greg, so what impact will this decision have to some of the charges that are
being put to him from the states? >> yeah, first of all, the assange team will come back into court in two weeks. i am told by legal experts on the ground that the supreme court decision should stand and despite another possible appeal, they might be able to get involved with, they should see assange getting back to sweden. now, of course, all of this wrangling has nothing to do with what's getting folks in washington so upset. assange, through his wickileaks site, releasing literally hundreds of thousands of classified state department and pentagon documents, which washington says has possibly an dangered u.s. staffers on the ground, as well as critical sources throughout the world. the hope now is that to get him back to sweden and the hope among some is maybe from there, we could see another battle over extradition back to the states. but first we've got to get him out of the u.k., the authorities do, anyway, and a very comfortable house
arrest, bill. bill: a case that continues more than a year now, greg palkot, thank you on that story out of london. martha: we've got a fox news alert now. we're looking at something that's just crossed the wires. we were talking before about syria and u.s. action that would be taken to crack down on what's going on out there now and we can tell you the u.s. treasury has imposed sanctions on sira, on their bank, to attempt to limit bashar al assad's government access to the global financial system. so there has an worldwide call from our allies and from americans to get more involved in this situation to the extent that we possibly can. and now we're seeing that the u.s. treasury is trying to crack down, at least financially, on sira -- syria to try to limit the purse strings to the greatest extent they can and perhaps that will cause some change in behavior in syria. who knows. we will see. bill: it's almost june, right, this thing started in february, 15 months ago. so watch it. this is what happened in wisconsin. cut back on union collective
bargaining rights. remember this scene? >> we'll tell you what's happening in another state nearby that took it a step beyond wisconsin. the former new york governor george pataki will join us live about that issue. martha: there is a full skraeul search -- full-scale search for a former mississippi stunt and that is being called off, we're told. family members are not giving up hope as private eyes are now entering the picture in that. bill: also he vanished from a cruise ship on his honeymoon, middle of the night nearly seven years ago. now there is new video that might shed new light on what happened to george smith. >> we have no closure, we have no answers. george has not sures fad. so we have no body to bury and we have no grave to pray at. [ male announcer ] what's in your energy drink?
university of louisiana college student, mickey shunick was last seen riding her bike home from a friend's house in the article morning hours of may 19th. fishermen found her bike in a river, 25 miles away, and that is where the trail goes cold. >> nothing at all has been found. no evidence. no footage. nothing at all. >> time is very important and it's not on our side right now. martha: well, police are examining the bicycle for any clue toss shunick's disappearance. bill: another case similar to that in louisiana but no connection just yet. putting politics on hold as mitt romney clenches the nomination after his victory in texas, i spent time with part of the romney family early they are week in an effort to allow you to get to know him and his wi and family a bit better. after all he's going to be in the headlines for at least the next six months, if not the next four years, as a couple. what about the little
things? >> what does he do that bugs you? >> oh, let me count the ways >> i'm anxious to hear. >> i just think any time you live with a person it's like wait a minute, you didn't squeeze the toothpaste right. he only gets annoyed at the way i squeeze the toothpaste. >> she did not put the cap on the toothpaste and it dries it out. >> you also don't like the way i squeeze it! anyway, so those little things can be annoying. bill: 40 -- >> 43 years. >> of marriage! bill: and it's just the toothpaste? >> well, there's obviously more than that. but you know, i think -- i think that it's just what happens when you live together for a long time. i can -- we almost know what the other one is thinking without even speaking. i will say something and he'll go oh, i was just thinking that. it's almost like our brain waves start to almost be on
the same pathway. >> we're in love with each other. the funny thing is you asked about what things i do that bug ann and vice versa. i'm sure the little things -- there are little things but when you love someone those little things make you laugh, you chuckle about them, they're funny. they're not irritating. >> i think when something is a little irritating, we go one of these days, you know, from -- you're too young. >> jackie gleason. >> one of these days, pow! >> that's what we do when we're annoyed and we start to laugh because it's silly. bill: here is what you're going to find, they are the most important people in their lives to one another. and that is so evident every time you talk to them. so as we go through this relationship, you'll hear a bit more and also back on the issue of religion and faith and more on the policy matters that we're going to be going through. so stay tuned. martha: you have to be a very strong team to go through the whole presidential process. it's a tough, grueling process on every family and i think we've seen tile and
time again, when the couples are as strong as the romneys apparently are it certainly serves them really well and makes them, win or lose, they're okay in the end, you know? >> bill: and very clear, after he lost in '08, the family got together and they took a vote and some of the kids said forget it, dad, we're not going for the second round and ann romney was the deciding vote at that family meeting. martha: look forward to the rest coming tomorrow. in the meantime through is new -- there is new controversy surround ago bold antiunion law in michigan. michigan, i said, this as wisconsin's governor scott walker is facing recall efforts in his home state after his law eliminating collective bargaining rights sparked huge outrage from liberals across the nation. boy, all of the focus went to wisconsin on that. but now republican michigan governor rick schneider has a law that goes even further and allows him to appoint an emergency manager to step in and take over distressed cities and suspend the rights of the unions. they interesting developments here.
so george pataki joins me now, former new york governor. governor, good to see you this morning. >> martha, nice being with you. martha: what do you make of the fact that now, so much focus has been on wisconsin as i said and now what's going on in michigan is being described as even more extreme, and that comes from the critics than what's happening in wisconsin? >> you know martha, i'm just astounded by this. and i think it's very much political on the part of the public employee unions. when you think back, in new york state, we have had financial control boards in this state for over 40 years. when i was governor, i appointed financial control boards to take over the finances of nassau county, the city of buffalo, the county of eries, and these were laws that had bipartisan support because testify the only way to straighten out the financial messes these communities had. and we didn't have labor up screaming, yelling, they didn't like the idea that we could aggregate contracts but they knew it had to be done and was done.
martha: what do you think? that's a fascinating point. is it that they feel that their existence is more threatened now? >> i don't think so at all. it's really that they feel empowered by an nlrb that is failed in supporting them, a presidential administration that supports labor at every single time, and it's a politically charged atmosphere. if they think they can gain a political advantage by demonizing a law that really parallels what we've done in new york tile and again, democrats and republicans together, then they're going to try and do it. but the fact of the matter is, cities like detroit are broke, for all the tremendous effort that mare pweufplt ing is trying to make it turn around, unless they can get out from under the massive employee contracts, the city is not going to work and to do that, you have to have a board with the power to aggregate those contracts. it's been done successfully for decades. martha: but i can't help but feel that it's more in the forefront of the discussion now. you look at new jersey,
renegotiating some of those contracts, new york, there's been efforts to do that as well. i mean, i do think that at this moment in time, the unions do feel that they are more threatened, that the gig up to a certain extent, that the finances simply -- look at california, for example. >> martha, you hit it on the head, the gig is up. because they were able in good economic times to just continually pass off the higher costs, the unsustainable burden, of a lot of these contracts and pension plans into the future. but now, government is broke. and by the way, martha, one of the reasons governments are broke is we had obama's fake stimulus, where local governments, state governments were given billions of dollars to pay off public employee unions. that money is gone. it was a one-time stimulus. but it prevented the reforms that could have been made back then. so it's really a sad situation. martha: that equated in many ways to saving the jobs of public employees of the way that that was presented, and
in some cases did, but as you point out it may have been a bandaid. my question is political looking forward, because governor scott walker in wisconsin is facing the recall vote, that's going to happen on tuesday, now there's pressure on the wisconsin governor, and it reminds me to some extent of what we've seen in greece and other countries, when we do start to see reforms come in and the old game changing, people often in some of these cases rebel, they say no, we don't want those packages to go away so you're out. >> sure, public employees don't want their benefits cut or provision necessary their contracts undone, but i think the people understand it has to be done. and you can't have a federal government that borrows billions of -- trillions of dollars, uses part of it for a one-year bandaid to avoid reforms to public employee contracts like we had in 2009 and 2010 and not suspect at some point that it's going to be over, that governments are broke. you mentioned california. they're not going to be able to sustain the level of public employment, the level of benefits they give out
there, regardless of how often and how much they raise taxes on people who create jobs. it's just not going to work. martha: the markers are being set in some cases in wisconsin and michigan as well and whether or not it will be a form national that will be followed by their states remains to be seen. governor, thank you very much. always good to talk to you. see you soon. bill: she missed school, so the judge sent her to jail. fair punishment or did the judge go too far? our own judge is here. martha: and a scare on a flight after attendants realized that someone had snuck on board. we're going to tell you who did it and how. >> someone actually came on the airplane and said that the count was wrong, and that everyone should bring out their driver's licenses. pai. ...from the home depot. the place that gives us more top-rated brands than anywhere else... ...at prices that won't shake up our budget. let's make a one-wall statement...
martha: this story has gotten a ton of attention this week from the classroom to the slammer. new outrage over a texas judge's ruling that jailed this 17-year-old honors student for missing too much school, essentially, but we're going to clarify that in a moment, diane tranreportedly worked two jobs to sport her family and her lawyer says she missed some days because of exhaustion from working two jobs to support her siblings and family. now the teenager now has as a result of this a criminal record. she spent 24 hours behind bars, and she was fined $100. here now, judge andrew napolitano, fox news senior judicial analyst to hash this out with us a little bit. judge, what do you make of this? it seems completely unreasonable, given the situation. >> well, it is unreasonable, and we ought to correct what is a public misconception here. she was not jailed for truancy. she was not jailed for failing to go to skao. texas statutes do not authorize incarceration for
that. she was jailed for violating the judge's order. if you don't go back to school, if you miss ten days, i'm going to put you in jail for violating my order. martha: but she was brought before the court initially, then he said you need to go to school, we need to figure out a way you're in school and she violated that and it was contempt of court. >> correct -- correct, concept of court that triggered the one day in jail and $100 fine. but the big picture is what signed of -- kind of sense does it make to put a student, who is about to graduate, that you put in jail where she can't go to jail? this decision was made by this judge, and it's very controversial, it's not one i would have made but i don't have all the information before me that he had. if you'll permit an editorial, this is a wacky system. this judge, according to his bio, is a high school graduate only, he is not a graduate of a college or of a law school. but texas law permits high school graduates to wield judicial power if they cano if they can get elected as
justice of the peace. that means they lack the professional credentialing and academic education one would expect of a judge. martha: in this case, perhaps the inability to use actual judgment in this case. >> correct. martha: separating this student and bearing in mind the rest of her qualifications and personal situation. however, if the judge did, you know -- if she came before the judge and he says you need to go to school, we need to figure out a way we can make this work with your life, and then that was violated again, it sounds to me, just to play devil's advocate for a moment, that he was trying to make a point where this young lady. >> but the punishment should consist of something other than keeping her out of school yet again. >> counterproductive. >> the reason she's there is because she hasn't gone to school, what does he do, sends her to jail so she can't go to school again. there are other techniques available to the court that would have induced compliance with his order. stated differently, he shouldn't have sent her to jail, he should have sent her to school and woerbd about punishing her later after she graduates and
maybe if she complied with the order there would be no need. martha: and there's her record, of course, this honors students who's an good student and vir uous member of the community doesn't want to do that. >> she can't sue the judge because you can't sue judges for what they do in their official capacity, she can't appeal the conviction, if it's overturned, there's a record that this happened but it's a record of acquittal, she can also move under texas law to have it expunged, that is, removed from the record. both the appeal and application for expungement will be before real judges who really went to law school and before lawyers before they got their black robes. martha: mine be details! law degree, what's the big deal! thank you sir. >> thank you judge. bill: foxnews.com/newsroom -- >> martha: and your honor -- >> bill: we will be the arbiters, weigh in on our website, you can vote whether you think this is
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watson was 89 years old. he has died. bill: full of life at 89. ♪ [singing] bill: 89. tempers flaring on the floor of the illinois state house, lawmakers looking to solve crucial budget problems by reforming state employee pension programs. republican state rep mike boss you're about to see was none too happy with the options before him. >> all the dam time come out here and i've got to try to figure out how to vote for my people. how assumed -- you should be ashamed of yourselves. here. we give power to one person. bill: mike bost went from there, he's sitting down today.
he's a republican and represents the 115th district in illinois. sir, good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: you seem so calm at the moment. what happened yesterday? >> normally i really don't normal here act that way. there was -- as we're dealing with pension reform because of our large debt, which is tremendous, we have been working together to try to come up with something that will work that helps not only cure the problem but also tries to meet thosable tkpwaeugss thathose obligations that the state has. at 7:40 be40 we get a completely changed bill from the speaker of the house who decided on his own to create this bill and it had a tremendous shift to the local taxpayers, to local homeowners on the property tax instead of the state dealing with their problem. bill: the way i understand it then they would have raised property taxes on some folks living down states as opposed to the area around chicago. >> correct. bill: the bigger problem is how you figure out how to solve a
huge budget problem here, right? >> you have the pension problem which causes that, it's $81 billion of long-term debt created over the years. we've got a $9 billion deficit in the budget which we can't make up this year alone, but we have reduced -- are trying to reduce this budget which we hope to pass in the next couple of days, which will reduce last year's spending by as much as $6 billion, as well as tied with that a medicaid reform that we just passed that reduces that budget by 2.5 billion. yeah there is a lot of issues that are out there. bill: i apologize for the interruption. a lot of states are going through this. illinois' gap is enormous. the budget gap for 2013, california is at 15 billion, which is huge, but illinois, a much smaller state is at 1.8 bill kwrorpbgs it goes from there to massachusetts, louisiana, then florida. those are your top five. you were saying? >> right, and the thing is you can't continue to spend money
you don't have. you know, government has got to stop growing so big. i've been trying to say that for years, and unfortunately this has just been kind of ram rodded for the last ten years spinning out of control. the pension problem has been a lot longer than that, but the actual budget problem that we have right now has been over the last ten or 11 years. bill: i don't know how you're going to solve it but we're going to follow it. we've seen stories, watched them in ohio and illinois. so many folks are going through this right now. when you go back to the state house today, what are you going to be like? >> well, i'm going to tell you that my hope is that maybe we sent a clear message yesterday that we will continue down a path of working together in a bi-partisan manner. understand this issue was an issue that we the republicans had taken a lead on and all of a sudden the rug had been pulled out from underneath us and those things that we were trying to do in a sensible manner were just thrown to the wind. we hope it comes back together.
bill: you'd be a lot of fun at a chicago bears game, i do believe. >> you know, it's an exciting time. my family has told me that before. bill: mike bost, thank you for your time. >> thank you. bill: appreciate it. martha: a heartbreaking refle reflection from prince william who opened up in an interview on the queen's diamond jubilee. talking to katie couric, saying his wedding was perfect for him but there was one thing missing, and that of course was his mother, the late princess diana. >> it was very difficult. i was short of mentally prepared. i didn't want any wobbling lips going on. it was the one time that i thought it would be fantastic for her to be here, and not being able to see her, i think she'd love the day and hopefully
she'd be very proud of us both for the day. i'm very sad that she'll never get a chance to meet kate. martha: very poignant memories from him. i was 15 years old when his mother died in a tragic car accident in 1977. i will be in london this weekend to mark the queen's diamond tkpwaou tkpwaoub jubilee. we will be on the banks of the river. there is a thousand ship flotilla on sunday and we will cover that live. prince william gave his mother's ring to kate middleton when they got engaged and it was a way to have his mother be part of everything. bill: the strength he showed at 15 in front of the country and the world. have a great time in london, that is going to be beautiful. martha: it should be really lovely. more on it coming up to. there are some new clues that are
surfacing in the disappearance of a groom. do you remember this story? who vanished from his honeymoon cruise seven years ago. george smith's family always believed that something in this case just did not add up. >> i've also been traumatized by royal caribbean's actions and their attempts to sweep this tragedy under the carpet and from the get go portray this tragedy in a false light in order to protect their image. martha: they want to know how this happened, and the evidence may reveal new suspects in this case. george's family joins us live here in "america's newsroom" next. (bell rings)
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was an extra person on board that should not be there. here is what some of the panes were thinking about that. >> concern is what is in those backpacks? what is in the bags he's carrying? is it possibly explosives. >> when i go to the airport i have to take off my shoes, and what happens some guy goes through an exit door? i think this is a major security breach. bill: police say the guy was released from jail a day before this happened. the police are looking into this and investigating. martha: there are reports now of new evidence that has surfaced in the 2005 case of a missing connecticut honeymooner. george smith vanished from a royal caribbean cruise ship after a long night of partying and celebrating with his bride. george's wife jennifer says she does not remember any of the events from that evening, including a supposed fight with her husband and leaving the nightclub there alone. meanwhile george smith's family believes that the cruise line
callous lee downplayed his disappearance as just a drunken accident. >> they've also been traumatized by royal caribbean's actions in their attempts to sweep this tragedy under the carpet and from the get go portray this tragedy in a false light in order to protect their image. why did they try to hide this? why did they try to cover this up? why didn't they work with the smith family from day one when there was evidence that a likely crime may have been committed on their ship. >> maureen smith is the missing man's mother. bri is his sister and mike jones as been the attorney on this for six years, joining this case a year after it got started. welcome to call of you. i know it's been a longtime since this has been in the news. you feel this tape that has surfaced, a video tape you believe has evidence from a couple of the men shortly after this event happened that you think might point in their direction as having had something to do with this.
right thr-s smith. >> three of the men. martha: tell me a little bit about the videotape. >> mike will speak on the videotape. >> we found out about the tape a year ago when i was having discussions with royal caribbean regarding the turn over evidence that they promised to turn over to us pursuant to a settlement we reached with jennifer hagel smith and royal caribbean. the phone conversation i had with the in-house counsel with royal caribbean he mentioned the tape and proceeded to tell me what was on it. he told meet russian men had filmed themselves sitting around a lunch table in the afternoon the day george had died basically joking and mocking george's death and one stands up and makes a very selfincriminating statement. martha: what did he say? >> i really can't get into what he said. i've been talking to the f.b.i. martha: was there a suggestion on the tape that they saw george have an accident and fall over the side, or someone pushed them or was there foul play.
>> basically one of them taking responsibility for foul play. martha: what do you think of that bri. >> i think it's startling. we hope this videotape in conjunction with all the other evidence we've accumulated up to this point will finally lead to arrest. martha: you feel the cruise ship want -ded this to go away that they haven't tried to pursue the criminal charges in this case, right, mrs. smith. >> the cruise line doesn't want any scandal. if there is any hint of any scandal, any crime they do their best to make it go away. these what corporations do. martha: why do you think, bri, that this is something other than a drunken accident as it was portrayed, and his wife, jennifer, has she shown an interest in pursuing the criminal charges in this case? >> well, to start there is a lot of reasons why we believe foul play is involved. the f.b.i. has actively investigated this and spent millions of dollars very soon after my brother's
disappearance. they continue to be interested in the case. the f.b.i. does not investigate accidents. there are witness reports of arguing on the boat and of course now there has been a co confirmation that george's blood was found in the bed. unfortunately, jennifer hasn't pursued the case as far as we have. she's moved on. but we continue to fight and we are not going to stop until we get answers and justice for george. martha: where do we go from here? i remember the evidence of the blood on the awning just outside the window of the balcony area, correct, m mike? >> that's correct. martha: you make a great point. the f.b.i. is actively involved in this case and there is some suggestion that it would move from the connecticut f.b.i. to the new york f.b.i. >> that's correct i've recently had discussions with the f.b.i. office in new york and we are trying to move the case from connecticut to new york. connecticut doesn't have venue any more. the targets of this investigation reside in new york
and florida and potentially california. there is no tie any more. it makes more sense to transfer it to new york, get new investigators on this stkwrao. martha this. martha: the three men in this case are russian. >> yes. martha: the f.b.i. knows where they are. >> yes. martha: have they ever questioned them. >> i believe so yes. martha: do you know how far they are along in the process? >> they keep everything close to their vest. >> we give them information, they keep it to themselves. we don't mind that, we hope that their silence will result in arrests at the end of the day. martha: it must be excruciating for you both to feel that not only that justice needs to be done, i would imagine, but also that in some ways your son's name has been maligned. what do you think about that mrs. smith? >> we know the truth, we know -- i know what i had as a son, a fine young man, and i know what they do, they try to make him the victim, it happens all the
time. none of it is true. we'll just keep on and in the end the answers are coming. martha: bri, talk to me about your brother and how he's been presented in this case and the cruise line in terms of what your feelings are towards them. >> it's clear from the beginning that royal caribbean tried to cover up what happened to my brother on that ship. we are just hopeful that the answers are coming. my brother was loved by everyone that knew him. he was a lot of fun. he was having fun on that boat like everyone else and he didn't deserve to be murdered, an didn't deserve for his crime to be covered up. martha: i'm very sorry for your loss and your family and all the questions you still have unanswered. i hope you get answers to those questions and that it will shed light on what really happened that night. mike, thank you very much. and keep us posted. >> we will. >> thank you very much. martha: good to have you on here. bill: 11 minutes before the hour. why would president obama and former president bill clinton take opposite sides in a primary
battle? interesting rate race taking shape. we'll tell you about that. she was out playing with friend when a arrow was launched into her back. a seven-year-old girl will tell her story for the very first time. >> it was an accident, we know somebody didn't do it on purpose. >> uh-huh, they did do it on purpose. >> we just wish they would come forward and say that they did it.
martha: this story, a seven-year-old shot by an arrow, she is showing off her scar there. she is speaking out about it for the first time. the wisconsin girl is recovering at home as she was hit while playing with friends last week. the little girl says she never saw it coming. >> i was walking on the sidewalk and the arrow just came.
>> when it happened happened, when they finally told us everything that was hit by the arrow i was devastated. i thought it was going to be a super long road of recovery. to see her now, i'm just grateful. martha: boy, no surprise there. that is a scary story. police are reportedly following leads but they have not made any arrests in this case. who goes around the neighborhood shooting arrows. bill: you heard what the mom says, it wasn't on purpose and the little girl says yes it was. two of the most powerful democrats in the country renewing old rivalries. one is backed by bill clinton, another by a top adviser to president obama. eric shawn in our newsroom in new york with the latest on this race. >> reporter: liar, chicken, not you, that's some of the names being bandied around in this almost unbelievable, nasty primary race. they say it's one of the nastyist in the nation.
it's bill pasquale against steve rot man. instead of facing a conservative republican under the new district rothman has scared off against his longtime colleague and friend, paqual. it seems because of this their friendship may be a victim. >> i do consider bill a friend. it's never easy to compete for the same thing as two friends. that's what we are doing, we both want the privilege of representing the people of the 9th district. >> with friends like that i don't need any enemies. we'll see what the future brings. somebody who lies about you in four months in a row and thinks he's on the right trail, that person needs help beyond politics. >> reporter: both men have been in congress for 16 years and they have somewhat similar records, bill. bill: about the endorsements, what gives.
>> reporter: big endorsements in both sides. pascell supported hillary rodham clinton while rothman back then senator press. the former president clinton is in pascuell. rothman has been endorsed by david axelrod. axelrod appeared at an event with the candidate. pskcuell is noting that one of president obama's senior advisers has backed up. still there is name calling in this race. bill: loyalty has its price. thanks. martha: surgery without a scalpel. tiny robots giving doctors a new perspective from inside your body, amazing stuff. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is genco services --
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