orbit 120 miles above earth and the america's first step into the void, that's how the fox report this june 3rd, 2012. huckabee starts now. >> tonight on huckabee, dividing friends, families and neighbors. will tuesday's polarizing recall election for the governorship of wisconsin be a prelude for the vote for the white house in november? and key appointments cast aside, staffers shunned, close friends feeling snubbed, the author of the book "amateur" takes us inside the obama white house. plus, he's the man on the keys for the world's greatest rock and roll band, the rolling stones chuck lavelle jams with the governor. >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. ♪ >> thank you.
thank you very, very much and welcome to huckabee. from the fox news studios in new york. okay, look, ile realize that i'm often critical of the president's policies, but i have to commend him whens' successful in accomplishing what he set out to do. now, he has made the millionaires and billionaires the villains of the disastrous economy that the president blames on president bush. and bush hasn't been in the white house for three years, except for the unveiling of the portrait. somehow he's so powerful he's handling the economy. president obama, we've learned that america has far fewer millionaires than a few years ago, a lot fewer. the number of households who have a million dollars or more in assets fell by 129,000 last year. to put that in perspective, the rest of the world saw increase of 175,000 millionaires, but in our
country alone, there are 129,000 fewer people that obama thinks are too rich. now, as for the notion that the rich are the ones who get richer, the wealth of the really, really, really rich people, those with over 100 million in assets, that declined by 2.4%. the largest drop in wealth for any group. now, look, i am not shedding tears for millionaires or billionaires, they're better off even with a loss of income than most other people and their life styles aren't going to be affected that much, but the people who work for them are probably going to feel the pinch. because when rich people have a loss in income they might hold off buying a new luxury car or building a third home. that means the person who sells the car or builds the car might lose his job and when the rich person doesn't build a third home, it's the carpenters, plumbers, electricians, plaster
specialists and brick layers who lose the work. if a rich person has to sell a yacht or airplane, it's the person who cleaned the boat shall the dock operator who lose the work. and some of the household staff of the rich guy who have to go as well. if he doesn't eat as often as expensive restaurants, it's the cooks, busboys and the wait staff that might get let go. oh, yeah, the president can celebrate this week, and this lousy economy has really hit the wealthiest among us and fewer of them are millionair millionaires, they probably won't have to move out of their homes or walk to work, but some people who use today work for them probably will. the president loves to vilify the millionaires and billionaires and that's okay if he wants to make them scapegoats for the bad economy, but i've worked for several rich people in my lifetime and i found out when things got tough, the rich guy i work for was far more likely to lay me off than to fire
himself. and president obama is a millionaire and hey, his job is up for renewal in november. maybe he'll be the next millionaire to no longer be rich, since he seems to think it's such a bad thing. well, on tuesday, voters in the battle ground state of wisconsin are going to held to the polls to decide whether or not to recall governor scott walker. >> november, 2010, facing a huge budget deficit, the people of wisconsin elect republican scott walker as their next governor. >> wisconsin's best days are yet to come. god bless you, thank you, and let's get the job done. >> immediately after taking office, walker begins acting on his pledge to reform the state's finances and signs a bill to take away collective bargaining rights from public sector workers. >> our reforms in seniority and tenure, that means we can put the best, and that means ultimately we can hire and
fire based on merit and we can pay based on performance and that means we can put the best and the brightest in our classrooms, and we can keep them there for generations to come. >> the move ignited a firestorm from the left. >> and union members blooded the state capital for weeks in protest and local democratic lawmakers boy scotted legislation by fleeing the state and the demonstrations made national headlines and walkers reforms seemed to be working and the budget is coming under control, and wisconsin's economy is growing and the the state's unemployment rate of 6.8% is the lowest in four years, but in january, opponents of his policies gathered more than 900,000 signatures in a petition for a special election, making walker only the third governor in u.s. history to have a recall vote. >> governor walker is being challenged by milwaukee mayor who he defeated in the last election. tuesday's vote could be a preview of things to come and
in national elections this general season in november. tommy thompson, the former governor of wisconsin currently running for senate in at that state and he joins us now, full disclosure i have endorsed his senate candidacy, he's a dear friend and colleague. governor thompson let me start off the bat you talked to voters every day in wisconsin, what are you hearing and what do you expect this tuesday in this recall election? >> i was with the governor this morning at a rock county dairy breakfast, there was thousands of people there and they were flocking to get a chance to have their picture taken with the governor, they were excited about seeing him, and i am absolutely confident that on tuesday we're going to have the largest election, as far as the gubernatorial election, and it's a recall one, and that scott walker is going to retain his governorship and he's going to go on to do some other, some wonderful things for the great
state of wisconsin and help lead the nation. >> mike: governor thompson, were you in that office 14 years longer than anyone in your state and worked with then a primarily democratic legislature that has far more republicans, you had a more democrats. have you ever seen the atmosphere in your state so polarized as it is right now. >> no, certainlies the most partisan it's ever been and 50% of the people that loved scott walker and 48, 49% that dislike him and it's splitting families, it's splitting everything and it really gets down to collective bargaining and people say, oh, it's some other things, but it's truly whether or not the unions are going to control the state of wisconsin or whether individuals that are entrepreneurs, independents and so on, are going to have the control of this state and i'm confident that the people of the state of wisconsin are
going to say recalls should only be held with people commit a crime or malfeasance in office, scott walker has done nothing except do what he said he was going to do and i think the good people of the state of wisconsin-- (applause) >> that's the point, he has made in this recall election he's essentially doing what he said he was going to do. most the time a person who gets-- >> a radical idea. >> mike: what a novel thought, here is what i said i was going to do and i'm going to do it. normally people get in trouble for nothing what they didn't promise and he's in trouble for what he did promise. i think your point is an important one. normally if you don't like the policies wait until the next election and this is also very expensive to the the people of wisconsin, to have to pay for a special election, is it not? >> about 17 million dollars, and you know, you look at what scott walker has done, his, his programs are working. and the budget is balanced.
school districts are doing well, nobody's getting thrown out of school, which of course was one of the threats, and the kids were not going to be educated. these are all, you know, rumors and accusations made by the left. but the the truth of the matter is the state is doing well. 92% of the businesses say we're headed in the right correction and you know, i look at it, governor, governor, mike, my friend and i look the at it and see harry read and the democrats of the state have not passed a budget in three years, to me, that's malfeasance in office and they are ate ones that should be recalled, not somebody that-- >> you know, i think, not only does our studio audience in new york agree with you, i think there's applause going on all over america that if the united states senate under the leadership of harry contrary reed can't pass a budget they're the ones that ought to be turned down and maybe that will happen. it's such a pleasure to visit
with you and i hope to see you personally very soon. thanks for being on today. >> thank you very much, and congratulations. and doing a great job, mike. [applause] >> thank you so much. well, he says that many of barack obama's former staffers and closest friends think the president is just in over his head when it comes to running the country. new york times best selling author ed klein talks about his new book, "the amateur", you do not want to miss this. i'd love to hear from you, click on the fox news fedback session or sign up for my facebook page or follow me on tw twitter. ♪
better for the american economy than governor romney's laid out. >> mike: well, the former president didn't always have such high record for the current one. do you remember this from 2008 campaign. >> he said in 2004 there was no different between you and george bush and taking the speech you're running on off your website in 2004 and there's no difference in your voting record than hillary, give me a break. this whole thing is the biggest fairy tale i've ever seen. >> well, according to several sources behind closed doors, bill clinton is is not that big of a fan of barack obama and bashed him, called him an amateur. the amateur is it the title of the new book by new york times best selling author edward klein. he joins me now. great to have you here. [applause] >> let me start, because i know that there are going to be some people who say, okay, this ed klein guy writes a
very negative book about barack obama, amateur, not prepared for the presidency because ed klein is a right wing fanatic on the fridge. your background is new york times writer, news week, new yorker, you've written for all of the publications last time i've checked aren't exactly considered right wing. >> that's right. >> did you have an agenda? i've been a reporter for 50 years and i decided that this was the a phenomenon that we decide today investigate. a guy who came out of nowhere, african-american senator who accomplished nothing, had no experience, somehow hypnotized millions of people into voting for him and gets into the white house and is the first time we've ever seen anything like this, amateur in the white house. to me, it was a great story, a story that needed to be told, because it had a direct impact on the future of our country.
>> mike: you talk about it, sort of the forward of the book, there were hundreds of people with whom you spoke, gathering the information, many of whom spoke on the condition of am nimty because of things they've revealed. these are not just street talk they're people firsthand that have seen and heard what you talk about in the book. >> of the 200 of the people i interviewed, a majority are on the record. named sources and none of them have come forward to say, oh, i didn't say that, not a one. so i feel that the book is very solid, and that it has the kind of sourcing that most books of this nature don't have. >> mike: you start the book with an incredible discussion of bill and hillary clinton had their home in chappaqua, new york where the title from the book, the amateur, comes. describe the scene in chappaqua. >> bill clinton held a meeting
in chappaqua, in his private office, a converted red barn, invited chelsea, his wife and friends, several friends, i interviewed two of the friends who were there and during that meeting, he tried to convince his wife in 2011 to challenge barack obama for the democratic nomination. he wanted her to unseat barack obama and she-- (applause) >> and she said, bill, how can i do that? i'm the secretary of state. i dine with the guy every thursday, and what about loyalty, bill? what about loyalty? and he said, loyalty, there's no such word as loyalty in politics. >> mike: unfortunately for some. >> then he went on to say that the people around obama, especially the economic people, did not know how the real world works. and that obama himself was an amateur. and that's where the title
>> we are back with the (applause) >> i'm back with ed klein, the author of the book "the amateur" the number one best seller the past two weeks, a story of barack obama and the white house. and ed, we were talking about a possible challenge which obviously did not happen, but there has been some very interesting things come from your book, one of which is that there's become a rift between oprah winfrey and the obamas. one of his biggest supporters credited with a big boost. what happened there? >> oprah was pivotal in getting him the nomination because if she had gone to hillary, hillary would have won, i'm sure. and then she was very instrumental in helping him in the general election. so she assumed, i naturally enough, that she would play a
big role in the administration and she and obama started talking how he should redecorate the lincoln bedroom for guests and who the guest list should be be for parties and how he should handle his communication strategy and when mrs. obama, michelle obama and her closest friend in the white house, valerie jarrett heard about that, they got very upset, because they thought oprah was horning in and acting like she was the first lady and decided to freeze her out. when oprah offered to do an oprah winfrey show to launch mrs. obama's anti-obesity campaign, michelle held a meeting and said i don't want some fat, rich woman being the emblem of my campaign. >> mike: wow. >> you know what, oprah? i want to tell you, sweetheart. you endorsed the wrong person four years ago, should have been me.
[applaus [applause] >> i had to throw that in there, ed. and there is another very interesting high level people obama administration that abruptly left. rahm emanuel and bill daley, two men chief of staff. it's rare that people in that position sort of kind of one day up and leave. >> they ran into the buzz saw named valerie jarrett, who is mrs. obama's closest friend and political advisor. the president's friend and political advisor, the only person in the white house who goes upstairs every night and dines with the first family, goes on vacation with them, leaves the oval office last, has the president's ear, enormous power and she is the gate keeper of the white house. and she has run into conflict with both of the chiefs of staff, with bill daley, who was opposed for instance, to
the mandate requiring religious institutions to provide free medical advice on contraceptives and abortion, she pushed that and got it through and daley decided he had had enough and he left. >> mike: you made a comment, i remember vividly, page 61 of the book, a powerful statement, and obama's problem is he doesn't know what he doesn't know. and i've often said the most dangerous person in any room is the person who doesn't know what he doesn't know. describe how that really fits barack obama? >> it fits him to a tee. he feels he's the smartest person in the the room. i interviewed many people who have been in cabinet meetings with him or at what they call by cameraal meetings in which the republicans in the house and senate and democrats meet in the white house and sometimes he takes phone calls from foreign leaders and he's been overheard to say to these
leaders, i have this in my book, i don't understand why i have to spend so much time with congressmen from podunk city to get my bills passed. it's that kind of arrogance that has really been the block and obstacle to doing business in washington between the white house and congress. >> mike: well, you've done the country a great service by getting us insight that we've never before. i know our audience here will enjoy the book and easy read in the sense that it's a great book for anybody to lead. ed klein, the book is called "the amateur" thank you for being here today. it's been a pleasure having you. and a loan is supposed to help a college student get the education they need to graduate. once they graduate, many struggle just to keep up with the payments. are they getting a good return
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>> live from america's news headquarters, i'm harris falkner. the acued killer of florida teen trayvon martin is back in court, the judge saying that george zimmerman and his wife lied about their finances to get a lower bond. he has pleaded not guilty to a murder charge in february, he says he shot martin in self-defense. in london truly a sight to see, more than a million people on hand to see it, too, for the british celebrations of queen elizabeth 60 years on the throne. a flotilla of more than a thousand vessels on the river thames. the queen and royal family led the procession. cheer cheerio. and tomorrow a concert and sir paul mccartney and sir elton
john, and she knighted them both. that's how she rolls. now back to huckabee. >> (applause) >> well, congratulations, you are a college graduate, but now in addition to looking for a job, you get to look forward to years of paying off your student loans, and student loan debt exceeds a trillion dollars in america and the average graduate enters the real world owing more than $25,000 on their loans. some the debts are going to linger for borrowers, past their 50's. so, is the degree worth all of that debt? joining me now, dick frank graduated from the university of tennessee with degrees in finance and marketing and jennifer ruth a member of our staff, graduated from rutgers university in 2010 and she's trying to pay off four separate student loans. all right, nick, let's start with you. you've just graduated in may. you've got about $28,000 in debt can't find a job, having to live with your parents.
that's not why you went to the university of tennessee. so, what, what is your anxiety as you start this stage of your life with a debt hanging over you and right now not a way to pay it off. >> well, the thing is when you graduate from high school, tell you as long as you work hard and put in the hours you're going to graduate with a job. and you know, i went to the university of tennessee and i graduated magna cum laude with 3.66 and i was on the dean's student advisory council, i graduated with two degrees, a minor in spanish, i'm by lingual and concentration in international business, i thought i'd done things about as well as i could. >> mike: would say so. >> i never expected to be in the place i am right now. >> mike: neither did your parents, by the way. >> exactly, yeah. >> but let's talk about, first of all, i hope somebody is watching the show and saying i've got to hire that kid,'s got the stuff, an incredible background.
you've obviously looked for jobs. i'm assuming even before the the graduation. what do you tell them. >> a lot of companies i talk to tell me i need my mba to even consider an entry level job, especially in marketing. i think if i were to pursue finance a little bit more, then i might be able to easier go in. even with finance you have to get certified or any of the other financial charters, you have to get, but marketing is a lot more competitive because it's a larger major aj most companies want an mba or want you to start, they want you to start in sales or one of the other departments don't want you to come in directly doing marketing for them. >> mike: jen, the only thing worse would be a degree in anthropology, not a big demand for. you came out of the rutgers, $65,000 in debt. at least you've got a job. working here for us. >> exactly.
>> mike: and walk me through how you're forced to accumulate late $65,000 worth of student debt in four years. >> basically what happened was my first year i had a small government loan and then the ris of it it i was able to pay for myself. and i i proceeded to go four more years to school and each year i would basically max out at the bank, so, my first year, it was my credit union, they were able to give me 10,000, but that was it so then i had to go to the next year to a private bank, and then the following year to another bank, and until now, that i have four completely separate loans, with varying interest rates, and three of the loans have actually variable interest rates which can be looked at every three months and most likely raised. and-- >> so these could bump up and make the payments more. >> four separate loans which total $65,000 and the rough estimate at the moment for the amount that i'll pay in addition to that for interest is $37,000. >> mike: so you're going to be
over $100,000. >> yes. >> mike: paying out. >> paying out. >> mike: in how many years? >> i was there for five years at school. >> mike: will take you how long. >> between five and 20 years to pay off. >> mike: wow. that's pretty ominous. and what is the monthly payment that you're going to have to be looking at. >> right now i'm paying $600, but my government loan is based off a graduated payment plan so i have a smaller payment now which will increase over the next eight of and a half years. >> mike: nick, was it worth it to get that kind of debt $25,000 debt for the education. >> absolutely, you can't beat the college experience and especially because i came in wanting to be, wanting to own my own orthodone tisry clinic, and when i was younger, i thought it was cool he didn't have to do that much work and pick the nurses? (laughter) >> boy you do you have a lot to learn. >> came my senior year and marketing degree. and an excellent professor
gave me a passion for business and marketing. >> mike: jen, any advice you would give to nick? based on your experience. at the moment i know nick, you don't have a job, but the moment you're able to start making payments, i would say make payments, even before they're telling you, you have to to keep your interest rates low. and if you choose to possibly go back to school, definitely make sure you keep the amount of loans you'ring go to take out a lot lower, you're 20's so much more manageable than my 65. >> mike: nick and jen, thank you. my only advice is, whatever kind of job that comes your way, take it, any job is better than not having a job may not be the one you want and hope for, but start somewhere and i wish you both the very best at paying off. and jen, i'm sorry, we're going to have to let you go. >> okay. >> mike: definitely not. unborn babies being aborted, why? because they are girls. i'm not talking china, i'm talking about right here in america. so are democrats in congress
more concerned about protecting abortion doctors than babies? well, lila rose of live action joins me next to discuss it. [applause]. son, and then i have eleven grandkids. right when you see them, they're yours, it's like, ah, it's part of me. it's me again. now that i'm retiring they all have plans for me. i'm excited. in absolute perfect physical condition and i had a heart attack right out of the clear blue... he was just... "get me an aspirin"... yeah... i knew that i was doing the right thing, when i gave him the bayer. i'm on an aspirin regimen... and i take bayer chewables. [ male announcer ] aspirin is not appropriate for everyone so be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.
forth a bill, and fell short from majority after president obama and democrats opposed the bill, doctors could be punished unknowingly for performing abortion, because the mother had the abortion based on gender selection. >> i just am astonished that the lead are of the free world would be against a bill that would protect unborn children from being aborted based on their sex. >> mike: that bill came a day after the planned parenthood endorsed the presidential, planned parenthood after a hidden video at an austin, texas clinic revealed this. >> terminated because it's a girl or terminate the presidency at. >> yeah, i think that would be the plan. -- are you saying from experience?
okay. all right. and so then i would want to schedule an ultrasound with an ob around then and then i would be able to come back for termation if it is a girl. >> good luck . i hope you get your boy. >> wow, >> wow. that video was released by pro-life group, live action and jing me now is the founder of live action, lila rose, we welcome back to the show. lila, good to see you. [applause] >> first of all, how did you find out that planned parenthood was participating in really what amounts to gender selection? >> we set up to discover how planned parenthood who claims to be pro women, but also is the biggest abortion change, over 300,000 every year, to discover what they would do when gender selection came to their door. because it does. we know in america, gender selection is rising, called
gend gend gender-cide and people are choosing to abort girls disproportiona disproportionately. in every clinic, governor, they saw again and again, planned parent workers arranging often late term abortions, these are when the baby's brains are developed and talk about this in the tape and everything is already developed, but confirm the gender with an ultrasound and come back in the clinic and we'll schedule you for a late term abortion and hope you get a boy. >> mike: were there any chase cases where the planned parenthood clinics refused to do on gender, when it was presented by the mother under cover they were attempting to obtain. in every case, planned parenthood wanted to assist in
sex based oye borings. >> acrossed board. >> they say it was edited, it wasn't fair. was it edited that twisted the outcome of the meeting? >> you know what was, the planned parenthood say that it was edited and we release it and they fire the employee and claim they retrain the whole staff. on one hand they say the videos wouldn't true. on the other hand they're retraining the staff and firing employees. part of the contradictions and i think hipocracy, they claim they condemn gender selection abortion and gender bias, but at the same time say they won't judge and refuse to stop doing this. >> mike: when planned parenthood carries out these kind of-- for me i'll be blunt, hideous procedures, especially, and not that they're ever good, but when a person blatantly says i only want to have the baby if it's a boy, it seems
to me that is the ultimate assault, the ultimate war on women, to say that women aren't as valuable as men in the process of birth. >> that's absolutely true. i mean, it's amazing because we hear so much rhetoric about the war on women, and about the attacks on women and we need to protect women, but we're missing over 116 million women worldwide because of gender-cide, because little girls targeted in utero most often for abortion and the fighting tooth and nail to continue to do it. >> mike: thank you for what you do. [applaus [applause]. talk about the the issue, we shouldn't be surprised, for 40 years in this country we have desensitized people to the idea that an unborn child is actually a human being. and it's a whole virtue, it's the greatest, i guess, pocket
that we experience as an american is to choose, the choice of taking the life of an unborn child. it should not be a shock to us that that choice could be, that we choose not just againeder, hair color, perfection in any area. this is why i think it's so important that all of us who value life from the moment of conception stand and are very clear in not just what w objectionable, but why. >> [ male announcer ] this is corporate caterers, miami, florida.
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and roll band. ♪ >> mick jagger, keith richards, ron wood and charlie watson make up the rolling stones, but there's another essential member of the band that many don't know. chuck began his career age 20 and asked to join the alman brothers band. 1982 after years of touring got a special opportunity to play keyboard and sing backup vocals with the rolling stones. and his contribution to success goes well beyond the tour musician. >> and also quite talented as an arranger and helps me and the rest of the band with arranging the tunes and a great historian and he's been with-- he knows the book, he has a book with arrangements in it that's a great help to us. >> mike: with a career spanning five decades he's a
force in the music industry pan continues to do what he does best, make great music. >> mike: chuck has a brand new album, i love it, called back to the woods. welcome back to the show, chuck, great having you back. >> great to be here. >> mike: athey're clapping and they're going to really clap when they find out they'll go with a copy of your album "back to the woods" (applause) >> a compilation of amazing tunes, with the whether you blues, genre, how did you come about doing this. >> it was an interesting story, my son-in-law, a ph.d. graduate from emmerson university and shining the light on the blues piano players, you hear about the blues song writers, but not the piano players, a great
experience. >> mike: we're going to do a few samples, pieces from the album. i want the people to get a flavor from it, i've got it downloaded and loving t the first one a new orleans feel to it, tell us what it's called. >> that's right, by an artist named little brother montgomery, an interesting character from louisiana, the new orleans area, plays in a lot of different settings. solo artists, quartets, quintets and this is one of the special-- >> we've got one of the our technicians and bob, a free-lance with us, let's knock it out. >> all right, here we go. ♪ . ♪ ♪ hey, rider, rider, where you been so long ♪ ♪ now, rider, rider, where you been so long ♪ ♪ ain't had no luck, since you
been gone ♪ ♪ well, i hate to hear that little cannon when she blows ♪ ♪ i hate to hear that when she blows ♪ ♪ set my mind to wandering, make me want to go ♪ ♪ yeah, set me mind to wander, baby, make me want to go ♪ (applause) >> i love blues music anyway, one of my favorites forms of music, it's so purely american. >> it really is, yeah. >> mike: this next piece is slowing it down, kind of like the old jive joints that folks would go on on saturday night before they go to church the next day to repent? >> isn't that the truth?
this is some real lowdown music, a great little piece that i found and recorded in 1953 by my true musical hero ray charles. >> mike: let's do it. >> this is called losing hand. ♪ i got a losing hand ♪ ♪ yeah, i gambled on your love, and i got a losing hand ♪ ♪ your love keep changing, yeah, like the sifting of the sand ♪
>> yeah! (applause) >> oh, yeah. >> got to love ray charles. now, this next song, i think it probably would be a political song, couldn't it? (laughter) >> once these folks hear the title i think they'll agree. >> tell me about the title of this one, why we love it? >> well, first of all, this is written by leroy carr, really interesting character, great piano player from the 30's era, 30's and 40's and this tune is called "lowdown dirty dog nig dog". >> mike: you see the political section there? ♪
♪ ♪ well, i ain't gonna be your lowdown dog no more ♪ ♪ i ain't gonna be your lowdown dog no more ♪ ♪ you don't want me baby, so down the road i'll go ♪ ♪ i work hard, mama, brought you home all my pay ♪ ♪ work hard mama, brought you home all my pay ♪ ♪ now you stay away, don't want to miss me when i'm gone
away ♪ ♪ yeah, you say you ain't gonna miss me when i'm gone away ♪ all right!. ♪ (applause) >> all of these songs are on chuck's new cd called "back to the woods" chuck is one of the nation's premier conservationists and be sure to check out his website, mother nature's website as well. and get the music amazon, itunes, wherever, make sure to get it, you'll love it. we have one more as we say good night. hear the whole song if you want to go to foxnews.com/huckabee and hear the whole song, by the way, until next time thanks for joining us, we'll see you next week from new york, good night
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