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>> steve: that's going to wrap up our program for tomorrow. tomorrow morning, get up with us because we'll tell you what happened in the great state of wisconsin. it should be a long night. we'll see you tomorrow. >> brian: we're out of time. >> steve: good-bye. the polls are open in wisconsin n. a race that's being watched by the entire country, and voters will decide whether or not scott walker keeps his job, but this recall election could be a lot more than just wisconsin. morning, everybody in america pts newsroom, i'm bill hemmer. look who's back from hanging out with the queen! martha: good morning, bill. bill: how did it go? martha: went well, went well we've got more on that coming up. good morning to you, good to be back, i'm martha maccallum. back to wisconsin, where it all started with really a battle over union power, and the governor's fight to try to save his state from fiscal disaster. bill: you have walker and his democratic challenger, milwaukee mayor tom barrett saying the state's financial future is the number one issue there.
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>> i was in the shadow lambeau field earlier this morning and i said borrowing from the packers, we can't spike the ball on the 10-yard line. we've got to get it through to the end zone. we've got to get it done and we can because the truth, the truth, is on our side. >> the debate now is whether wisconsin has the worst job performance record in the nation or just the worst job performance record in the midwest and neither of those are acceptable. so people i think want to restore wisconsin value the, reclaim wisconsin values and i'm the person who can -- who can end scott walker's civil war and do just that. bill: as people vote today, in a politically polarize dollars state, what is ahead regardless of the outcome from this vote, steve? >> reporter: it's a really difficult situation that lies ahead. keep in mind, this is the fourth go-round of elections in the shadow of the election that made scott walker governor. there was a judge's election, there was a recall of senators, now again with
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the gubernatorial race. again, they've been in nonstop campaign mode for about two years now and governor walker is banking he will win and people have had enough of this. have a listen: >> they're sick of all the -- particularly this last week, some real doozies in terms of the nonsense of people attacking us. they'll be ready to wake up wednesday morning and not be assaulted on television and be ready to move on. >> reporter: patching things up between the two parties and trying to get about the business of governing could be a difficult thing regardless of outcome. there's an awful lot of hard feelings on both side. bill: what about barrett, what is his key today? >> he really needs to get democrats to turn out much better than he did than in 2010. he's a winner amongst young people and geographically in the city of milwaukee and dane county, he needs a better turnout than they had in 2010 and he believes that he can -- if he can win, he
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can change the direction of this state. >> this is a nation where the middle class has prospered and it's prospered because we have had leaders who recognize that without a middle class this nation wouldn't be the greatest nation on this planet and that means people should be able to buy a home, send their kids to college, and retire in dignity, and i am not going to allow this governor and his tea party buddies to end that. >> reporter: now, there's an extraordinary amount of outside help that's coming in on both sides but particularly it's dramatic from the democrats, the democratic party in minnesota has been busing people in, you see twitter remarks from those driving around the country, all to get out the vote effort, howard dean, democracy for america, 28 phone calls in one hour of phone banking into wisconsin yesterday. that's what they say. an awful lot of intense effort to get out the vote. it's close. getting out your vote is the key. bill tbil seems like it is razor tight there. steve brown, thank you. it will be a fascinating day
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throughout the day and in the evening. martha. martha: let's take a look at how we got here this morning, the official launch to recall governor scott walker goes back to november 15th, 2011. earlier that year, walker released his plan and it was designed to address the state's budget shortfall, and it included curbing union collective bargaining rights and also cutting -- getting people to contribute more to their health and pension benefits. so far the candidate and outside groups have spent $63 million on the recall effort, and steve brown just reported the mope continues to roll in. bill: now, when all the votes are counted, we should have an answer on what happens there in the badger state. but are the issues going way past wisconsin? the ripple effect in a moment that could go all the way to the general election in november. so we'll check that out. martha: how about this question this morning? is it time for a big new stimulus package, with unemployment up, some
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democrats are reportedly urging the president to go back to that well and to lay out a bold agenda that would include a grand new stimulus package. they're saying that really, when you look at what's going on in the world and interest rates, it is the perfect time right now to borrow more money. so let's talk about that a bit, fox business network's stuart varney joins me now. larry summers and paul krugman who really has been in favor of a bigger stimulus package -- he didn't like the first one too much, he wanted it to be bigger, but they're saying it would be a great time for the president tole roll out a -- more stimulus. >> they're thundering about how the president should get out there and borrow, borrow a lot more money and borrow it now, because it's cheaper to borrow now, than in history. it is an encouragement for the president to go out, borrow a lot of money, spend it on various unnamed projects, and stimulate the economy that way. that is not a defined stimulus plan. it is encouragement for the
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president to take this bold move. get out there and borrow a ton of money. it's a huge gamble though, martha, because look, you're going to take on a whole lot more debt. how would voters feel about taking on even more debt than the 15 1/2 trillion dollars we've already gotten? it's a gamble, would it really create more jobs and bring in more national income down the road. so it's a political and economic gamble, but it's out there because the economy is weakening and the left is thundering along, saying borrow more money now because it's cheap. martha: it's fascinating, it's kind of a hail mary pass. i can also picture pushing your chips into the middle of the table in a casino almost, because it's also, stuart t. seems to me, an acknowledgement on the part of larry summers who wrote in his piece that basically the global economy returning to health is highly implausible. they're saying in this window of reelection, don't count on what we've done so far starting to turn archlt it's becoming more and more clear that that's not going to happen.
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>> the left is saying the only way to get the economy going is by government borrowing and government spending. the right is saying no. it's not the government that's going to get things going. you've got to stimulate private enterprise with tax reform and regulatory reform. it's another way of framing the debate that's coming up in november. on the left, what they want, more government. on the right, they want private enterprise. this is just part of the equation. martha: we all know what kind of debt we're in, stuart. but one of the arts that's laid out in summer's piece is that money is simply so cheap right now, that it behooves you to take advantage of these low, low rates. is there an economic argument to support that? >> yes there is. there is an argument which says look, if the government, the american government, goes out and borrows money for ten years, you only pay 1.5% interest. it has never, ever been as low as that. so it's very, very cheap. if you invest that borrowed money in projects which create income down the road, it's a good economic gamble.
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it's a good economic equation. there is a case to be made. the other side of the ledger is don't you frighten off people when you raise the debt above 15 1/2, 16, 17, $18 trillion? don't you frighten people more with the debt than you get out of it by investing it in projects? it's a very interesting equation, martha. martha: it's very interesting. also it goes back to the argument of well, what are you going to do in terms of spending cuts to sort beef up that side of the ledger. stuart, thank you. very interesting. good to see you this morning as always, sir. bill: as you know there's a global slowdown. martha: i noticed! bill: there is at least one good thing out of that, you're paying less for gas. martha: that's true bill: the price of oil falling, crude, below $80 a barrel, national average according to aaa, 3.57 a gallon, that is 21 cents less than drivers were paying a month ago. so fill her up now. martha:sy vee storms, killing at least three
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people in missouri. strong winds tore through their mobile home overnight 90 miles south of st. louis and several other homes nearby damaged in the storms. you've got trees and power lines toppled in that area and the national weather service is examining the damage to see if it was actually caused perhaps by a tornado in that area. bill got a fox news alert now. watch this. syria plunging itself into international isolation. a purge is underway, kicking out u.s. and european diplomats, saying that they are no longer welcome in that country. this afternoon several western nations kicked syrian diplomats out over the bloody massacre of civilians just ten days ago. conor powell is live in our middle east bureau, with more from there with the headline conor. hello. >> reporter: hello bill. at least a dozen countries have last week kicked out their syrian diplomat necessary response to the massacre in hula and on sunday president assad said that syria's problems are a
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result of foreign meddling, so the solution to foreign meddling is to calls it is to kick out the foreign diplomats. seventeen nations have had their diplomats sent packing but while diplomats are leaving syria the violence continues in that country. we're hearing reports of violence along the coastal areas and some areas that had not previously seen violence, bill. bill: is diplomacy still the only serious option on the table at the moment? >> yeah, because there appears to be no other consensus for another option russian president vladimir putin and his chinese counterpart have said recently they still support the koffi annan plan, the united states has said no military option without the backing of the u.n. and without the backing of the u.n. and the united states there will be no military option in syria. so right now, because there is no other option being publicly discussed, right now it appears kofi annan's peace plan is the only plan but nobody really thinks it will succeed, bill. bill: conor powell, thank
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you. conor is in jerusalem, watching all those developments. thank you sir. ten minutes past the hour. martha: we have a lot more in this jam-packed session of "america's newsroom". it has been dropped from the 747 and used to test shuttle landings but the shuttle enterprise running into a little bit of a problem on its way. look at the extraordinary pictures over the weekend. on its way to that final destination. bill: let's hope it gets there. it will be cool to key when -- to see when it is. >> all he wanted to do was stop voter fraud, but the justice department stopped in and now florida is responding to that. martha: they said eric holder had until memorial day to hand over fast & furious documents or face concept charges. we've had barbecues, hit the beaches, memorial day is past. what is next for the attorney general? >> for you to have two dead agents and to have never had a conversation with eric holder about fast & furious and about this is totally unacceptable.
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martha: we are smack in the middle of live coverage of the pomp and pageantry of the diamond jubilee, this is a live shot in london as it's underway t. marks 60 years on the throne for queen elizabeth and we are now now now awaiting the queen's departure from buckingham palace. it's been a royal affair since day one, millions of brits, very happy in their celebration throughout the course of this week, a very positive mood. i just got back from there yesterday afternoon, last night, a very big night, music legends paul mccartney, sir elton john, it's also sir paul mccartney, both annointed by the queen, and it was a touching appearance, it was set downside bucking ham palace, a live concert, quite an extraordinary event and on the lefthand side of your screen is a live shot as we look at queen queen elizabeth as she continues the proceedings.
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she's arriving at parliament for lunch and will leave par parliament, get into a horse-drawn carriage, one the beautiful carriages we've seen throughout and this is part of the lunch event you're looking at now. boy, she's had a busy weekend and after four hours on the front of that barge in the pouring rain, and there's camilla, the duchess of cornwall, i am amazed by her stamina, and we know what's on her husband -- her mine, her husband, who's been at her side throughout this entire event and when i look at this glaring picture, phillip is not next to her. we never, ever see her without prince phillip who literally gave up his whole life and career basically and made the choice of his life to be with her in every moment and he has at times not been well over the last year and he's in the hospital right now with a bladder infection. there's kate and will, of course, behind them, coming out of parliament, just moments -- just live, in the
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live shot we're looking at. bill: they love her there, too. i was reading your blog from over the weekend, taw talked about her in that pouring wind and rain, that she was standing straight and showing full respect for those that came to honor her and we will see in an hour's time the big wave from the balcony which is probably the moment of the day, would you say? martha: definitely. today is sort of the solemn day of all of the celebration that is have gone by. the big concert was the party last night, we have the 1000-float notila and there she makes her way up into one of the carriages which she's done countless times over the last 60 years. she's quite good at it, camilla, also getting into this carriage with prince charles who has come into his own over the course of this weekend as well. the bbc did a great documentary on charles and his own memories of highs childhood which humanize dollars his relationship with the queen, to a very strong extent and one they haven't really done before. we're watching charles at
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his -- he's no spring chicken either but he's come into his own through the process of this as well. bill: what was your sense there among the english people? they have this event now in june, they have the summer games later this summer, they know the austerity is out there and the cup is hurting and in debt, perhaps maybe not as deeply as continental europe, because they're not a catch to the euro. what a decision that was going back 15, 20 years now. but what is their sense of national pride when this happens and we all watch it? >> martha: i think it's at a high point, bill. it's really an extraordinary moment. we think about what's going on as you say in europe, and their decision not to be part of the euro, which was a bold decision, really, by margaret thatcher at the time, and you know what amazes me, there's always this talk about how the queen doesn't need anything t. really doesn't matter in the political scene, they did a poll that was released over the weekend. most in britain, a majority feel that she understands their problems better than
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their government does, that she's more in touch with what's going on in the lives of the british people on the government and you'd better live in the accounts of the # two prime ministers that she's worked with, a man and woman, margaret thatcher, she have her counsel because she's watched it all. she's under no obligation, they can speak to her confidently, so she's been a sounding board for the prime ministers in a way i think people in the united states don't always have a really strong understanding of it. it's not raining. that is what goes through my mind when i watch this. bill: what the english do have a strong understanding of is how to put on an event and with the canons in the background, the crowds on the sidewalk, watch and listen to this .
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i'm assuming that's part of the same route that kate took. martha: it is. they'll come down the moau, they're coming out of parliament, because that's where they have this celebratory lunch event, then to buckingham palace and go out to the balcony and that will close this jubilee event. it's hard to recreate for people what it looks and sounds like when you're standing on the street and watch these processions go by. the horses and carriages are so incredible. the sound of the people on the street cheering is completely overwhelming. i mean, they have turned out in such big numbers to cheer her on. let's face it, it's been a rocky road over the years at times with this royal family. but they are at the point i think where they just adore her, as a grandmother and sign of stability in their lives. most people have never known anything but queen elizabeth in their lives, and and beautiful kate and prince
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william and harry there, waving as well. it marks the future in such a big way and that is -- for her, knowing she has this young couple for the future as well. bill: i know how much you wanted to be there over the weekend and terrific job, too, fighting the elements. is it bittersweet being in new york? martha: it would be great for all of us to be watching this. she's an extraordinary woman. she's the second monarch to get this far. you have to start young to get to the 60th mark of your reign. she was only 25 when she became queen quite unexpectedly. it was supposed to be under -- she was never supposed to be in this role, and there is kate and will, as we say, holding up the mantle for the future. nice that the carriages are open and they're able to enjoy it all. this is something you don't see every day. queen victoria is the only other monarch who has reached this. it's extraordinary. bill: i'm sure her heart is
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martha: there they are, heading down the maux as they call it in london, and there's a night shot of kate middleton, now the duchess of cambridge with the duke of cambridge, prince william and they'll go to buckingham palace, go inside and see the wave on the balcony as the queen sort of caps off this huge celebration which has an tremendous success and they will look forward to the olympics. it is clearly a jubilant time to be in london, at a time when so much of the world is having a tough
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time. it's great to see them at really a high point. bill and there is camilla. martha: you made that point when we went to the break, total rehab of camilla's reputation. during the last jubilee celebration ten years ago, she was persona nongrata, lucky to be invited to the event, now because the prince is in the hospital, camillera is -- camilla is next to the queen and charles next to her. the princes like her a lot. it's clear. they're happy that their father is happy. bill: she's won the family over and beautiful pictures from london. we'll share a bit more of that with you. good morning here. in the meantime, this story back in the states. the governor calls the process of removing voters as necessary to have fair elections. critics call the purge discrimination. john fund, not affairs columnist, the national review is on this.
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john, good morning to you. >> thank you. bill: federal law ten years ago, 2002, told the states to do what? >> it said the federal government has a responsibility to force the states to clean up their voter roll it is they're full of people that are ineligible to vote. the holder department that is abandoned that, it's blocking states that are trying to get rid of noncitizen voters on the rolls. it's ridiculous. the federal government assert that is florida can't do this but that's flatly contradicted by the law. they're going to lose in court. i think they're just trying to delay the removal of the names from the rolls. bill: a delay until after nowhere is my assumption. >> that seems to be a political move. but look, this is a real problem. florida, two weeks ago, found 53,000 dead people on its registration rolls. bill: funny how that happens. but i guess there was a caiz in missouri in 2009 that was dropped. >> in missouri the federal government had been pursuing missouri saying clean up your voter roll. as soon as eric holder became attorney general he
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dropped that case. look, as not as if noncitizens aren't voting. an nbc affiliate in fort myers, florida found 100 people, even though they were voting had been noncitizens. this is a real problem. we've got to do something. bill the other side would argue that rick scott is only going after minorities. what do you say to that? >> in florida, it's not surprising that most of the noncitizens will be from latin american countries or mexico, right? bill: yeah, so? >> it's not discriminatory if you're dealing with a population that by definition is going to be largely hispanic. where else are the immigrants coming from? bill: however, there were 1600 potential suspect necessary miami-dade county, a big county, strong, high population in southeast florida, turned up only two noncitizens out of 1600. is that proof that the system works or is this a suggestion that perhaps this is not that big of a deal in the end after all? >> all florida is doing is asking people that are flagged as noncitizens,
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present proof of citizenship. we could make this a whole lot easier but the department of homeland security refuses to give the state of florida the information on who it has who is a noncitizen of this country. they're the ones who track these people. the federal government won't cooperate with florida in giving the names of the noncitizens, then they refuse to use driver's license records, says no you can't do that but that's slightly contradicted by the law. in other words they don't want the rules to be cleaned up. bill: i've got to run. can florida solve this before november? >> five months from now. >> i think they can do it. this is going to end up in court. it depends on whether the court allows you to proceed and litigation goes forward. bill: we'll pick it up later, thank you john fund. martha: there's a live shot as we watch -- this is a big money moment actually, the carriage just coming into the circular area around bucking buckingham palace and there is queen elizabeth, with the famous wave that we've watched over the course of the last 60 years. bill: i don't see umbrellas.
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that means it's not raining. plus a woman pts right to fair pay, at the center of debate on the hill but could it mean trouble for small businesses that create most of the jobs in america? 9:30 in new york. wake up!
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bill: word just in, u.s. forces hitting again with
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drones inside pakistan, the latest strike going after this man, abdul yahia al libi, said to be al-qaeda's second in command, as well as one of its propaganda chiefs and steve centanni is on that in washington. doby woe that -- do we know that al libi was killed in that attack? >> reporter: not yet but officials say they're optimistic. officials say they're sure al libi was inside, hit by a u.s. drone but they're not sure he was killed. he was an al-qaeda rock star, his videos and lectures go viral on the web, he's appeared in propaganda videos easily found on youtube. he's best known for a prison break, along with those from a baghram air force base. after his escape he made an hour long video documenting his original capture with the pakistanis, his handover to the u.s. and his escape from prison. if al libi is confirmed killed he would be among a dozen or so top al-qaeda leaders killed in the past year since the killing of usama bin laden. bill: where does this leave
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us? pakistan publicly does not like these drone strikes, they've been more vocal about it. where does it leave us in the showdown with these drone strikes? >> this situation is very tens as you -- tense as you point out. the u.s. has stepped up its drone attacks after a quiet period follow thank air strike last year that killed 24 pakistani soldiers. for the record, the u.s. says it's working closely with pakistan to target terrorists. >> we share a common interest with pakistan when it comes to going after al-qaeda, and in seeing a stable pakistan emerge in the region. as we said many times, pakistan faces a strong core threat from these extremist groups and we're committed to cooperating with them and counterterrorism. >> reporter: of course, the situation is more difficult than that, with many pakistanis opposed to the u.s. strikes, and the pakistani government walking a fine line between helping
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to fight terrorists and appeasing this antiamerican sentiment. bill: steve, thank you. steve centanni at our bureau there in washington. martha: a woman's right to fair pay is at the center of a new battle going on on capitol hill right now. democrats say that it will show that the wage gap between men and women exist in the workplace and republicans say that it will just put more stress on small businesses. andrea tantaros joins me now, cohost of "the five" and margie romero, democratic pollster, good to have you women here today. obviously, part of the center of this conversation is how both of the candidates, mitt romney and president obama are doing with women. let's take a look at the latest poll and get that as a backdrop, then we want to get your thoughts on this. president obama, 51 percent favorability among women, governor romney at closed the gap considerably, he was at 27 percent as you can see in an earlier poll on that
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measure. margie, why is this important given the other rules that are already in place against any gender discrimination? >> well, it's common sense. it closes some loophole and it gives women more tools to simply inquire if there is a gap, and not see a retaliation from their employers and it's supported by 84 percent of americans. martha: all right. andrea, the other side of it is that small businesses may find it legally onerous and when you talk about looking for those loopholes i'm seeing lawsuits. >> yeah, well, look, there are plenty of laws on the books to prevent discrimination, the civil rights act, equal pay act, lily ledbetter act. this is a stunt to gain favor with women. women if you look in metropolitan areas are paid 23 percent more than men now because remember the man session, all the men lost their jobs, women came into the work force and what this bill would do is it would impose likely federal pay
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mandates which we don't want. we don't want business toss have to disclose how much they pay their employees. but i will say this, right now there are no caps for discrimination lawsuits, and that's where republicans are wrong. this bill would keep no cap necessary place because look, if you're not making a lot of money, if you're discriminated against, you likely won't be able to afford a lawyer and jury verdicts are about $25,000 on average. so republicans have that area wrong, but the best of the bill, democrats have wrong, is just a total political ploy, wasting taxpayer dollars. >> it's an interesting point. i just want to bring this up from the independent womens' forum which looks the a the comparison of how people are paid, men and women in the same job, or men and women over all, and it seems that some of the discrepancy in pay comes if you look at men versus women overall in all jobs, and when you do that you're going to find a discrepancy -- discrepancy but they're saying this study by the independent women's forum, many women, not all but enough to have a
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big impact on the statistics -- statistics, trade higher pay for other job characteristics like flexility, things like that. so is there really a pay discrepancy issue. >> yes there is a pay discrepancy issue and this bill would not account for the fact that some women have less seniority in some jobs or take time off. what this bill would do is address the folks who -- women who have the same job, same tenure, same education as their colleagues but getting paid less and this bill is common sense, it makes it es-- harder for employers to hide information from their employees and eliminates the sort of catch all category of excuses as to why they're paying women less. it's common sense. >> even "the washington post" fact checker said this data is wrong. as you point out martha, a lot of people become secretaries, a lot of women go off to have babies.
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that's why this data is showing it wrong. >> there isn't -- it doesn't exist, and i about the i -- >> martha: nobody can hear what either one of you are saying. hold on a second. >> nancy palestinian pell, maybe this bill should apply to her staff because the democratic minority leader that claims to be in favor of women pays her women $26,000 less than the men. >> interesting that you bring that up actually. there was a spokesperson on the hill who while talking about that sail point said why don't we hurl acid at the democratic women senators. that's where republicans have taken this dialogue, really to the gutter. and if you really wanted to fight for women and for the middle class and for families, they would fight for to make it easier for women that are being descrim nationally dollars against to get retribution. martha: one of the main issues is whether or not the laws on the books are being enforced and whether or not they do protect gender discrimination which nobody would be in favor of, so doing another law is one of the big questions. it looks like this is not
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going to pass in its current form, but lady, thank you very much, important topic, margie, andrea, good to see you both. >> bill: the deadline has come and gone. eric holder was told he had until memorandum orual day to -- memorandum orual day to come plea and hand over documents or face concept charges. congressman jason chaffetz with us in three minutes as to what happened to that deadline. martha: and startling video of a bus crash. what happened in this situation? wow. we'll be right back.
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>> what happened? >> i murdered my husband. >> when? >> when did it happen? >> a couple weeks ago. >> okay, what happened? >> he was being mean. >> did anybody come out when that happened? >> no. >> so he's still there? >> yeah. martha: boy, really disturbing phone call. williams is now charged with suspicion of first degree murder. she told the police that she killed her husband after years of verbal and physical abuse. bill: there are new questions in the fast & furious matter after a deadline came and went for the attorney general eric holder that could have held him in contempt, bya, because you asked, to oz-- to georgia, what has become of a husband committee's deadline of may 31 for the attorney general's cooperation into the investigation of fast &
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furious. little background. you remember the operation run by the atf, allowed guns purchased in the u.s. to be smuggled into mexico in hopes of tracking the weapons to drug cartels. instead, hundreds of guns vanished. at least one, found in 2010, where american border patrol agent brian terry was shot to death. so what about that deadline? congressman jason chaffetz of utah is one of those leading the charge against eric holder and good morning to you back in your home state of utah, salt lake city. what happened to the deadline? >> well, in an abundance of caution, speaker boehner, eric kantor, our leader, sent a letter to the white house, and attorney general holder, asking them to answer some very basic questions. that's been nearly a month. and i think the speaker is probably going to be sufficiently embarrassed by the fact that the attorney general has also blown him off as they have the subpoena that was issued in october, and i find it totally an embarrassment, i
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find it totally wrong that the attorney general would just ignore a subpoena. you can't do that in this country and get away with it bill: so what happens now? is there a new deadline? >> well, the attorney general is coming before the house judiciary committee on thursday' our chairman, darrell is. a, there are five of us on the committee, also on judiciary and we have more questions for the attorney general. bill: what happens now? you have more questions, maybe he listens, maybe he responds, maybe he distance. is this thing dying slowly? >> no. it's not going to go away. the attorney general has to answer these questions. remember, bill, brian terry's killed in december 2010 and it was in march of 2011 that president obama promised in an interview on univision he would get to the bottom of this, that there would be people held accountable, and the attorney general has not held anybody accountable. the senior level of management, what we want to know from attorney general holder is what did they know, what did they do about it, who had this
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information, and why did they continue to totally ignore this. bill: and all this time down the road, you're not getting the answers you want. we've brought you on television many times to talk -- and towkd to congressman issa many teams and heard the same thing. is now the time for you folks to put up or shut up? >> i think so. i think that time has come and gone. but look, our leadership in an abundance of caution, bending over backwards, giving the attorney general and the white house all the time they need in order to comply with this, that's the delay and i don't like it but that's our the way our leadership has taken it, that's the direction that we're going and thursday i think will provide some more information, and hopefully the attorney general will start to be accountable. bill: we'll wait on that. also, when you consider the former attorney general, bernard ghosn zalez weighed in, too, i guess he could comply partially and that would benefit a further delay. do you see that happen something. >> i think they're
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stonewalling this. -- stonewalling us. i think they're trying to stall this through november. when the secret service had a scandal they immediately started firing people, when he add the scandal at the gsa, she stepped down, the scandal at the nuclear regulatory commission, he eventually stepped down. we've got a dead border patrol agent, where is the outrage on both sides of the aisle? this is totally unacceptable, bill. there are a few of us, gauty, chairman issa, others that have been furious about fast & furious but we need more people stepping up on both sides of the aisle. >> and gonzalez, clearlysy in your corner but i don't think that's much of a surprise to you. thank you for coming in, we'll pick it up later in the week. jason chaffetz. to our viewers,"america's newsroom", bya pox there, leave your question, also shoot me an e-mail, hemmer, fox or twitter me, if that's easier, bill
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hemmer, because you asked, bya, we await more on that. martha: in the meantime, there are bold accusations from republicans that the white house is stonewalling the investigation into the now bankrupt solar panel company solyndra. what they're saying the administration is intengly doing. bill: also all eyes on a courtroom in florida, jury starting deliberations on the spray tan murder matter. here's the 911 call when adam koufman reported his wife is gone. >> my wife -- ♪ the one and only, cheerios
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bill: this is an issue. not enough space for the shuttle enterprise involved in a fender-bender over the weekend during its trek to a manhattan museum for permanent display. one of the wings struck a piling under a tight bridge, as it was being moved by a barge. the damage miminal. -- minimal. next stop, the intrepid, will be permanently docked tomorrow. martha: >> she's not breathe something. >> no she's not breathing. >> did something happen, did she fall? >> no. i -- please, can you please come here. martha: boy, that's adam kaufman, the man who frantically told that 911 operator in 2007 that he woke up to find his wife in the bathroom and she was unconscious. prosecutors believe that he killed her. today, he is in a miami courtroom, where the jury is set to begin deliberation on his fate. and phil keating is there
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live. phil, the defense began with the death by spray tan story an it ends with death by magazines? fill in the blankstous there. >> reporter: yeah, both of which, according to prosecutors and police and the medical examiner, as equally fictitious. moments ago, an emotional moment inside the courtroom, as the mother of the alleged murder victim, leana kaufman, the mother escorted out by sheriff's deputies after an outburst in court where she said are you accusing me of lies, this as the prosecutor during the rebuttal closing argument suggesting the only reason the mother-in-law supports adam kaufman is because he's other hnl access point to spending any time in the future with her two little grandchildren. while the state has wrapped up, the judge giving the jury its juror instructions so roughly 20-30 minutes from now the future of adam kaufman will be in the hands of this jury which has
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listened to several weeks of testimony in this case. now, according to the wife -- the wife, leana, was not declared a murder victim for a year and a half and prosecutors say the motive is simple: >> there is no perfect anything. there's no perfect job. there's no perfect marriage. there's no perfect life. and we know this, that the defendant and his wife did not have a perfect marriage. >> reporter: now again, the family and friends, including the in-laws of adam kaufman, orging -- arguing they had no issues in their marriage and this is now in hands of the jury. martha: phil, thank you very much. phil keating. we'll have more on that later. bill: quite dramatic listening to those calls. >> thousands filling the streets of london waving their flag and hailing, well, the queen. it is the last day of
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festivities of the diamond jubilee, and we are live on the streets of london for a beautiful scene in moments. [ male announcer ] what's in your energy drink? ♪ wer surge, let it blow your mind. [ male announcer ] for fruits, veggies and natural green tea energy... new v8 v-fusion plus energy. could've had a v8.
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martha: aeu waiting the queen on the big balcony moment as the united kingdom and the world celebrates the dime apbd jubil diamond jubilee. a brand-new hour starts now. i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. they have turned out in a big way. jam packed with folks hoping for a glimpse of the queen. martha: amy kellogg is in the middle of all the action, and she is live in london. good morning, amy. >> reporter: good morning, martha. it's getting a bit cold and starting to drizzle but nothing how it was sunday when it was coming down on you along the banks of the thames.
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you see an endless throng of people. they hope to see the grand balcony wave that will happen very shortly. it's touching the number of people who have come out to wave to the queen, to see the queen, many of them in this chilly weather having camped out a day or two just hoping to get a spot to watch that open carriage pass by. that was really the highlight for very many people, because this is, of course, all about pomp and ceremony, and tradition and costumes, and the best display of all of that really was the carriage pass by through london after a very elaborate service at st. paul's cathedral a memorial to the queen for her six decades of service to the country. marked by a bit of sadness, her husband, prince philip is in the hospital and will remain there for a few more days, he's got a
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blood erin effects bladder infection, that is not uncommon for the elderly, but she is saddened that he is not at her side. she has mustered a few miles to show gratitude to all of these people who have come out on their own volition. you can't force people to come out of an event. you you can try to market an event in stores, but people who have come out have genuinely come out because of the queen, and in times of economic hardship this is a reason for anyone to be happy and unified. it sound cliche but you hear it over and over from the people themselves wearing little union caps and waving their flags, martha. martha: we have an overhead shot from your camera there, it shows the bo bobbies.
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they are in the process of releasing the crowds into the whole area in buckingham palace. they want everybody to get as close to the balcony as they possibly can when the family walks out, right? >> reporter: i wish i could see that, martha. i assume that is what is happening. i'm seeing the crowd moving this way and lots of bobbies. this has been a huge security operation as you can imagine, with so many people out on the streets, and the entire royal family going by in open carriages. it was fun lee becaus funny, it did start drizzling at quarter past 2 this afternoon, 9:15 your time. that is when they were getting into carriages, and the decisions had to be made because the glass-in carriages were on standby. it was drizzling and it is
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drizzling but the decision was made to stay with the open carriages because that is the most spectacular and ceremonial. they were made in germany in the 18th century and part of the set piece of these jubilee celebrations. the bbc has been opining that is a scaled down affair compared to the golden jubilee because the golden carriage wasn't out and the ka*rpbl carriage was only used one way in the procession, it was all courses before in the final day of the jubilee. it is elaborate to us and the bentleys, and all of that earlier this morning. martha. martha: thank you so much, amy. it's an extraordinary site. it's orderly the way they let everybody flow into that area. that is the way it is always done. they want everybody as close to the palace as possible. the royal family stays inside
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and has tea or a quick drink or something. bill: we have a former butler of the royal family. nice to see you. you were with martha this weekend over the banks of the thames. tell us what today means for you and your country men. >> i'm looking at these live pictures now and thinking so many occasions i've been there on the other side watching all of this happen. it's very familiar to me, the queen will be excited now that so many people have turned out for her, and it's a great day for the royal family, and martha, you know only too well, all those people, over a million people turning out for the queen in the rain to watch the river pageant and today they are there today waving their flags to pay respect to the queen for her 60 years of service to the country and the commonwealth. martha: one of the most striking
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things about this whole day is that prince philip is not by her side, and every single time we ever see the queen in public he has been standing by her side, and today she was traveling with a woman in her carriage, probably one of her ladies in waiting, or a close friend, i assume, but it was very stark to me that he was not there. >> you're right, martha. prince philip has been the queen's rock, her mainstay throughout her life. this is a royal love story of 64 years. she's hardly ever been without him, and today i think she's missed him more than ever, because i saw quite a sad, lonely figure in queen elizabeth in st. paul's cathedral and driving to buckingham palace without the man she's devoted to and he is devoted to her. bill: we were talking about the presence of camilla today. and she was in the horse-drawn
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carriage the last hour. the public moment earlier today she was standing right behind the queen. how has she now been accepted, not just by the people there in london, but also by the family? because it appears from this perspective that she's gone long ways to get in well with the family. >> you wouldn't have seen things like this 20 years ago, it would have been impossible. there's been a great pr machine working behind the scenes. that machine has put a new face on the royal family. camilla is part of that family, like it or not. when the queen dies prince charles will become king and she will become his con sort. we have to accept it. that is the way forward, that's the way things are, unless we
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don't want the royal family to continue we have to accept these changes. martha: as a young woman she really chose william because she fell in love with him. this wasn't a royal arranged match in any way. she set her sights on him and said this is the person i love and i want him by my side the rest of my life and her mother had other things in mind. >> 1947, a young princess elizabeth running around the decks of hms vanguard and chasing her bow. she hell in love with prince philip, she's stayed in love with him ever since. this was a love match. she's been together with him thick and thin. she knows the show has to go on. this is one of the greatest shows on earth. it has to go on, you have to put your personal feelings to one side, and this business is a thousand years old, the royal
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family, so they have to go forward with or without prince philip. bill: paul, standby one moment there in london. to our viewers watching at home, or in the office or listening on satellite radio in your cars, there will be a moment here in about knif five or six minutes away. and you say the royal family is quite punk kaourl punctual, they run a tight schedule. we should see the queen on the balcony when she comes out to wave at everybody. the scenes and sights and sounds live from buckingham palace continue here. ugh! all work and no food is making lorenzo very snippy.
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martha: waiting for queen elizabeth ii and her family to come out on the balcony. this is a tradition that londoners know all too well. they have been allowed to flood the case right toupt ver up to
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the front of buckingham palace. this is only on special occasions. we haven't seen a diamond jubilee since queen victoria, and she wasn't as spry, she wasn't able to attend as many events because she was not in good health. queen elizabeth is in great health. she has really never been sick a day in her life. she had four children and i think that was the only time she was ever in the hospital. bill: the last shot the last hour watching her in that horse-drawn carriage, she looks outstanding. it's 3:15 in the afternoon, london time. you have to figure some of these folks were there at day break. martha: last night. bill: some of them slept out there last night to get a prime-time seat today. martha: paul, the former butler to the royal family is with us. you were pointing at one of the windows and saying, that used to be my room.
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>> remember, martha the tiny windows of the top i used to have the view from the other side of the railings. it was quite spectacular. martha: tell me what they are probably doing right now. there is a room behind the balcony. tell bus that. >> bill is right right in saying the royal family runs on a strict timetable and protocol. the jean will be marshaling all her family in the center room behind the balcony. they will be lining up, maybe having a little cocktail, a cup of tea or something, and the doors will open and in precedence the royal family will come out on to the balcony. they will all know their place, they know exactly where they are going to stand. the most important member of the family in the center vending to thspreading to the outsiders on the edge. edge. martha: we've seen that and my mind goes back to her
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coronation, young and beautiful and laden with all kinds of robes and the crown she was wearing and the septor. she has been through many american visits, all of the popes. she has had 12 prime ministers that she's had a close relationship with them and meets with them on a weekly basis to discuss affairs of states, that many, all of them say that she has a very deep understanding of most things, before they can bring them up she is already asking about them. >> that's right, mart that. they meet the queen every tuesday evening and the queen gives them her advice and wisdom and very often has a point of view as to an act of parliament being passed at that time. to say the queen does not involve herself in politics is wrong, because she's been there for a very longtime. as she says to most of her ministers, i'm here for the rest of my life, if you're lucky you're here for four, maybe eight years. [laughter] bill: the crowd is enormous
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today, paul, we are watching it here on our monitors back in new york. it looks a lot larger than the wedding scene that we sat and watched there when kate came out on the balcony there. this is the moment, it's the moment so many have been waiting for. 10:16 o:16 on the clock, we should see her in a matter of moments. >> bill is right, you know, for britain this is a bigger deal in many ways than the royal wedding, because this is about our queen of 60 years, it's not just one moment in time. and our queen has an 80% approval rating. now wouldn't your president love that right now? bill: i think any of them would. martha: they certainly would. there's been times when that approval rating where the question usually is put, do you think we should be a republic or a constitutional monarchy put to the british people and over the
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years the numbers have been lower than they are now, down to the low 70s at one point. now eight in ten people's say they would like to see the monarchy continue and there have been a lot of changes over the years in terms of the expenses that are shared more by the royal family now, they've given up bri brittaina the royal yacht, but they also bring in a ton of money. bill: big-time tourist dollars. i saw a note over the weekend that suggested they are going to rename big ben the clock tower after queen elizabeth. is that true? >> that's right. bill: will that happen. >> that's true. that's true, bill. not the bell, the bell is called big ben, but they are going to name the tower itself, the queen elizabeth tower that's right. bill: that's qet then, right? >> that's right, yes, yes, absolutely. it is amazing to watch these pictures, you know, thinking about our queen and how long she's served our country, and
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how well she's done it with dignity, with style, and putting her personal feelings on the back burner as she is today thinking about her husband lying in hospital, the show goes on. martha: you have said, paul, that you believe that as soon as this moment on the balcony is over she will likely rush to his side. >> yes, she will. she will want to see prince philip. eithehe's the man that she trusts most in this life and he's been there through thick and thin, through all the crises. he's the man she relies on for knowledge. he is in charge of the family business. as you said last week, he wears the pants behind closed doors. martha: he's kind of one of the original stay at home dads, paul. i mean he was really in charge of the kid, right? >> yes, he is. he is the original -- yes, you're right, because he took care of the family while the queen was taking care of the
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business. behind closed doors he took care of all the childrens' educations, made sure they went to the right schools, made sure they went into the right armed forces, the air force, or the army or the guards or whatever, an was always there for his family and still is. all his children know that they can actually rely on him for sound advice. and even princess diana in my case relied on prince phillip for sound advice an was very supportive of diana through her crisis, through the divorce, he was always sending letters of advice and support. he never left her side. and the queen and prince philip were devastated of course when diana died, and it was for the royal family probably their lowest point. but now look, now look at what's happening, a revitalization in the monarchy and the royal family, of course led by the queen, but supported by her family, and especially the young generation, such as the duke and
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dutchess of cambridge. martha: the pr make over that has happened in the last ten years for the royal family is do with material on one side. they had good material to work w the principle princes have grown up. they went into the military. you talked, paul about how prince philip, he's a tough coffee. if you step outside the line he's not likely to forgive you. example number one would be sarah ferguson was never for begin for her indiscretions, and is no part of this. her husband is and so are her children. >> he has kept the family together. he is the glue. so what he says goes. and the queen often said to me
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at the palace, well, i don't know the answer to that question, paul, but prince philip will, and if you want to know anything about the workings of the royal estates or the monarchy, then prince philip is your man. he knows. incidentally its his birthday on sunday and i do hope he'll be out of hospital to celebrate with his family ac his birthday at windsor castle. bill: we have our eye on the door that will open at any moment now. we have an aerial shot of what normally is a fountain outside of the pa palace. martha: the royal family had to get permission to do this exard concert there last night. it's surrounded by concert safe folding. they had a tremendous fireworks
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show exploding off the back of buckingham palace. fireworks go way back to queen victoria's time. they have never been this before. they had to get permission from the city to do that. that property in front of the palace does not belong to the royal family, but the city went along with the plan, and it was really spectacular. bill: paul, we were just boasting about how punctual the royal family is, and now they are seven minutes late. >> perhaps the queen has had to make a call to the hospital or something. we can forgive her a few minutes at this moment in time. bill: that we shall. >> after 60 years. martha: it also helps to sort of pump up the crowd out there, not that they need much pumping up, but it gives everybody times to move in as chloe as the close as they can as they open up the area. as i know from the wedding coverage people are likely hanging from the trees in all of the corners of buckingham palace as well trying to get the best
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shot that they can when the doors hop and th open and the family comes out on that balcony, a tradition that has been going on for many, many years, and we president bush t we are about to see that on the queen's diamond jubilee. she prayed that god would help her to serve the people and this burden, really in many ways had fallen on her so young in life at the age of 25. she said whether my life be long or short it will be devoted in service to the british people. i think that really, despite some people's interest in having a republic in london, everyone seems to be rallying around her in thanks to the fact that she really has devoted her whole life in service to her country and her people. that is a specialty in london, that umbrella, it sells a lot. she has devoted her whole life to service and i think that's
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when you see this kind of devotion here today. bill: from the people you have spoken to, how do they choose to remember this day? we knew it was going to happen for several weeks, if not months, but now it's here. >> yes and it will soon be over, but the queen will remember the people from this day, because she loves her people from all around the commonwealth. she really has put her job first, and her family second. this is a diamond jubilee martha, and i know your love of diamonds, when the queen comes out on to the balcony take a little look at the broach she is wearing today, which is called granny's chips. and that was begin to queen mary from the original diamond. they are two of the largest cut diamonds in the royal collection, and the sister to those diamonds belongs in the septor in the crown.
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juliet: at the tower of london. take a look at those whoppers. they must be 15carats each. martha: it's funny they are called chips. it sounds like we are getting close to the door's opening and them coming outment who better than paul burrell, he knows all the pieces of the royal. juliet: and everything that the family possesses as part of their great wealth. and their wealth really is in the homes, in the real estate, in the jewelry and artwork. there's been some penny pinching talk of the royal family, in terms of cash on hand lately but all of this -- bill: they are not clipping coupons these days. paul, who will come out? who will we see in a moment here? martha: there we go. bill: you should see the queen first. martha: there she is. >> the queen should come out first. the doors are opening now. here we go.
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yes. martha: right behind the queen, camilla was the next person we saw. and prince charles. he feels like he's come into his own in a new way in recent years and certainly has been so prominent throughout all of this. >> yes, he is. and i think the queen is beginning to lean on him more, and of course prince philip hasn't been in good health this year. he had heart surgery at christmastime, and now he is there really for his mother, to be there to help her. and she looks like quite a lonely figure stood in the middle there. bill: but she's clearly not alone with the people below. just have a listen to the sounds there in london. [cheering]
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[cheering] [cheering] martha: a big smile from the queen for the raf fly over which you saw moments ago.
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it's a thrilling moment, and then all the royal heads tipped back and watched it fly over. now you can see the formation as it continues. it is really, it's a stunning sight, and there is the red, white and blue, the british flag, which is a neat edition. they were supposed to fly -- i think that is something close to the diamond formation we heard about for the diamond jubilee that they had worked on. bill: what strikes me, those six people, that's the core of the royal family in the united kingdom today. martha: that is exactly the right. the point i wanted to make is it's a much smaller group than we generally see out on the balcony, that is the a-list, a-list of the royal family. you have kate and will are yam and harry on the right hand side of your screen, charles and camilia, the dutchess of cornwall is on the left. the body language, the queen has been forward and in front during the whole thing. there has a big effort for the young royals to hang back and
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let this be her moment and let her be out in front. ann and edwards and the other brothers and sisters are not there, and it makes me wonder if andrew and edward and ann perhaps are with their father at the hospital, because the other three children of queen elizabeth and queen phillip are not on the balcony, and they are generally out there for all these events. our thanks to paul burrell for joining us. thank you very much, paul as we watch the remaining moments of the end of the diamond jubilee of queen elizabeth the ii ♪ [singing]
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[cheering] [chanting] bill: i do believe she cracked a smile. martha: yes she did. she was very happy. it was "god save the queen ," the hip-hip-hoorays, and the gun
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salute, it was stung. prince philip in the hospital, his birthday on sunday. queen elizabeth's mother lived to be 101. queen elizabeth is only a spry86. she may reach the platinum jubilee which is 70 years on the throne. a lot of people think she is highly capable of hanging in there for that. this was really a beautiful, beautiful taking off of the hat in defense to the queen. >> her imagine jes majesty the queen.
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hip-hip-hooray. bill: she is taken by this moment. martha: she is a much more emotional woman than people give her credit for. last night she appeared teary at the concert. people who know her well say she is much warmer and emotional than people realize. as a young girl she didn't think it would be too good if she smiled too much in front of the public because she wanted to be taken seriously. i think that practice stuck with her over the years. [cheering] [cheering]
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martha: there they go. i also can't help but think a year ago the wedding of william and kate, what goes through kate middleton's, now the dutchess of cambridge's mind, a commoner that he met at college, and as you say, bill she is right in the core of the mostle louisia most elevated part of the royal family. bill: most say she has done very well. we are waiting for them to go back inside, and they did. i counted 13 minutes, and four different waves and two smiles from the queen. stonewalling on solyndra, why house republicans accuse the obama administration of withholding key information in this investigation. what is going on behind the scenes in ranking republican on the senate budget committee, senator jeff sessionses live in a moment from the hill. he will tell us in three short minutes. ♪
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martha: firefighters teaming up with search and rescue crews to save a hiker who fell a hundred yards off a trail in los angeles -- a hundred feet, actually correct that into a rocky canyon. and her rescue, look at this. was caught on tape. she is wrapped up in that rerbgsd you know, rescue equipment, and she was hanging on for dear life. the rescuer hanging on for dear life. this is an extraordinary sight. she was flown to a nearby hospital and everybody is okay, but boy, look at how that rescuer was just hanging on for dear life. bill: she is lucky they were there to find her, pull her out of there. we know house republicans accusing the white house of stonewalling the investigation into the bankrupt solar panel company solyndra. fred upton says the committee is trying to get key documents from the administration and the effort is like, quote, pulling teeth. what about that on the senate side, jeff sessions ranking
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republican on the senate side. what is going on here? we are still pulling teeth. >> these agencies are accountable to the american people through the congress. they have a responsibility to be open as to how they spend the public's money. they are not agencies free to do as they wish with the american people's tax money, so i asked about six months ago for information relating to seven of these highly advanced loans, the loans that were moved rapidly through the system, three of them over a billion dollars, and have not received any response since, and i think it's unacceptable. bill: that was six months ago, you haven't heard anything? >> we've not. this is actually the third letter now we've written congressman i issa and the house joined with me. he has the power to subpoena. we intend to insist that the documents be produced. we need to know how these loans
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were done. some of the companies seem to have had political, inside pull. some of the companies look to be in financial difficulty like solyndra. we are talking about billions of dollars. and i think the american people need an open understanding of what happened. bill: two questions on that, with regard to the politics, have you been able to prove that political favors were accomplished, achieved, or was that the target yet? have you been able to professor that? >> prove that? >> several of the individuals in the company are closely tied to the white house, given money to the white house, made multiple trips to the white house. they seem to clearly have inside contact with the highest levels of the white house. and, frankly, the president, the chief executive officer of the entire federal government ought to be demanding full accountability about these loans and make sure his administration
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handled them correctly but we don't seem to be having support there either. bill: with regard to the subpoena, how long are you going to wait, six, seven months more? >> next tuesday, that is plenty time. we've been asking for this for months now. we have a deadline, and i think it's reasonable that congress would insist that we have this information no later than next tuesday, and that's been conveyed to the interior department. bill: what is your expectation of getting something by then, sir in. >> i'm hopeful that we will. but actually there does seem to be a pattern throughout this administration now of just stonewalling these requests, so i do think that it's good that we have a committee in the house with the power to issue subpoenas that could enhance our -- bill: you're saying tuesday is your deadline, if you don't get anything by next tuesday you'll go the subpoena route. >> that will be my request of the chairman in the house. the senate committee chairman,
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all democrats that are not being supportive of these kind of subpoenas, but the house will do so, i believe, and hopefully we'll get the information one way or the other. bill: some are suggesting that perhaps you get partial information that continues to delay. we'll see if that is the case or not. the administration is hitting back in a political sense against mitt romney during his time as governor in massachusetts. is that a fair comparison about a loan of $1.5 million given to a solar energy company there? is that apples to apples, or apples to oranges do you believe? >> well, each one has to stand on its own. our concerns are these loans were issued for political reasons, for politically favored companies, for politically correct energy companies, and they have had favoritism, and also that they are not sound. in other words, the taxpayers may take a big loss. so each loan would have to be defended or criticized on its own merit. bill: senator thank you.
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we will be in contact before next tuesday . thank you for your time today. >> thank you. martha: and update now on the disturbing story of a phoenix woman driving away, for getting her baby on the roof of her car. she is 19 years old, catalina clausner has been released from court and has to wear an electronic bracelet. she admitted to smoking marijuana before getting in that vehicle, taking off and sending the baby flying. the prosecutor describes what happens next. >> the seat was discovered by a motorist later in an intersection, and the baby was unharmed, but it is a very scary, dangerous event. martha: that was a miracle. she is facing dui charges and child abuse charges. she has a court hearing later this month. the baby, thankfully is okay, and is in the custody now of child services. bill: a happy mother said to be excited to see her daughter graduate from high school ends up in handcuffs, and her crime,
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cheering. martha: and there are some new fires that are burning out west, high winds, hot, dry conditions are fueling those flames. >> our investigators -- let's just say the souls of their shoes were melting in the course of trying to get the initial evidence. that's how hot it was. martha: a tough road ahead for fire crews. we are live in colorado. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement
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bill: ten minutes now before the hour. some headlines, jury selection begins today in the jerry sandusky trial, charged with abusing ten boys over the span of ten years. two houston sisters among the 153 killed in that tragic plane crash in nigeria. the state department not saying how many americans were on
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board. and the moon is putting on a show, a partial lunar eclipse seen across the pacific rim from the western u.s. all the way to japan. at its peak the earth's shadow covered a third of the moon in darkness. cue van morrison. martha: that prompted a moon dance. bill: you have to think he wrote this song like watching one of these eclipsess. martha: you'd like to think that, right? let's go to a place where things are not going so well in terms of mother nature. the fire crews in ooh tar battling a massive wildfire right now. they have hot winds and hot, dry conditions, and you know what that means, it's fueling the flames out there right now. the local police and federal aviation inspectors head to the crash scene of an air tanker that went down in that fire over the weekend to complicate matters. >> our investigators were -- the souls of their shoes were melting in the course of trying to get the initial evidence in that debris field. that's how hot it was.
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there were spots in the fire where aluminum from the plane had melted and actually ran down off the hill. martha: that is unbelievable. that utah wild five is one of 11, large, uncontained fires that are raging across our western states right now, including colorado where nearly a hundred firefighters are out there battling a new wildfire that is burning near fort collins at this hour. and alicia acuna is live in denver on that. what is the status of that fire? >> reporter: things so far aren't going well and officials are calling out an additional 8 # 80 firefighters to help out on the front lines that went to 200 acres yesterday. a dozen homes near fort collins have been evacuated and more than 50 residents and business owners have been put on notice that should the fire continue on its march and in its continued speed they will have to leave in a hurry as well. the cause of this fire is unknown, but the winds are picking up later today, and as you know, mart that, that means things will be bad all the way
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around. martha: the firefighters are busy really all over out west, right? >> reporter: right, as you mentioned there are currently 11 major fires burning throughout the western part of the u.s. that according to the national interagency fire center. you can see from this map where the hot spots are. in arizona what is being called the gladiator fire is now 80% contained. that blaze has burned more than 16,000 acres near the town of crown king. this began as a house fire and quickly burned out of control. the nation weather services issued a red flag warning for the northern part of that state. that is because temperatures are so high and the humidity is so low it's ripe for a fire to be easily ignited and to spread rapidly. in new mexico firefighters are trying to get a handle on two fires still burning, including one that's become the state's largest in the history of new mexico. 390 square miles, 18% contained. no estimate on when that one will be out. back to you. martha: a tough situation, thank
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you very much. bill: we have new video of a school bus crash near inndianapolis. watch this now. it's surveillance footage. as you can seat driver is alone. there are no kids on board, thankfully. he's 73, the driver is, thrown from his seat during a bumpy turn. he's not wearing a seatbelt. then strag else to grab the steering wheel, the bus crashing through a fence and went through some trees and a play set before hitting a garage. the driver only has minor injuries, hit nothing else other than that fence and a few trees. that's his lucky day is what that is. martha: i don't know what prompted the beginning of him sort of falling off his seat. that is unbelievable video. and this is also coming up today, she claims that she was fired for her military service, and now one former weather channel star is taking it to court. but does she have a case? a fair & balanced legal debate coming up on that.
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bill: enthusiasm major league draft last night. the 6'3", courtney hawkins doing a backflip, smith the famous short stop known for flipping for the cardinals. the 20-year-old said the chicago gm said no more flips, keep your heels on the ground. martha: that is a lot to flip around there, 6'3". graduation, huh ?
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martha: arrests on graduation day sfoor cheering. she cheered as her daughter was getting her high school diploma. then the police were there with handcuffs. charging her with disorderly conduct. go figure. >> i was like. okay, you i can't, argue with the police but i'm like, are you serious? i should have done what others did. no one went to jail. martha: police defended arrest. it was announced before the ceremony anyone who cheered or screamed would be escorted out of the building. come on. everyone wants their family to be loudest. william hemmer. whoo-hoo. we can't believe he did it, right? bill: get handcuffed. this is going on at high schools all over the country,
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warning seniors, no pranks. martha: need to relax. bill: some schools are really cracking down. one report they reported to kids to college of their choice? martha: ridiculous. bill: one school called police to bring them in and develop a criminal record. martha: have right attitude about the ceremony. you have to be able to cheer. bill: that's what i'm talking about. jimmy fallon taking on proposed ban on supersized sodas here in new york city. >> soda drinkers in new york are angry about a plan that would ban the sale of sodas larger than 16 ounces. yeah. today i saw a picket line that stretched six blocks. made up of three people but still it was a -- [laughter] they were angry. they were angry and they wouldn't --. martha: oh. s. bill: do you think that will pass here in new york? martha: no, i don't. bill: he was successful and salt and trans fat. martha: i'm in favor


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