i am bill o'reilly. please, always remember that the spin stops right here because we are definitely looking out for you. >> sean: tonight, they may be separated by an ocean but the war of words between barack obama and mitt romney is escalating in a major way. over the course of the next jam-packed edition of "hannity," we will be joined from the campaign trail with bob beckel, phil cunningham, michelle malkin and much, much more. mitt romney landed in london, england, kicking off a very high-from file trip. meanwhile, back at home, it was business as usual for president obama. as his day was consumed with --
what else -- campaign event, funded by you, the taxpayer. yes, the president was partying it up with supporters at the house of blues in new orleans in a few short hours ago. but if he was there to celebrate the latest nbcnews wall street journal poll that has him up 6 points. i would have him take a closer lookats the sample. democrats had an 11-point advantage over the republicans. so you can take this with a grain of salt. here to break down the numbers and the more bizarre comments made by the president and his top advisers on the campaign trail, the co-host of "the five," beckel. and the always outspoken radio host, phil cunningham. >> sean: we agree that the focus will be about the economy and anything else. >> the economy and mitt romney. >> sean: and president obama's failed record. this is barack obama saying his
plan -- he's talk about this economy -- worked. how about the unemployed and those in poverty and needing food stamps. but here's what he said. >> just like we tried their plan. we tried our plan and it worked. that's the difference. [cheers and applause] that's the choice in this election. that's why i'm running for a second term. >> sean: because he couldn't do it the first time, bob. we have fewer americans working, $5 trillion in debt. >> first of all, look -- your whole open is slanted. but now i'm slanted from both of you. cunningham's own state, right -- ohio -- obama's policies worked, particularly with the car manufacturers, unemployment is down and he is beating romney in ohio by double digits? >> he is losing in michigan -- >> my friend bob beckel lives in a jimmy carter dilutional universe that he created in 1984 -- >> you live in the -- >> i am in ronald ronald reagans
universe and proud of it. he has less black vote, less jewish vote, less white vote. he has a checklist and takes care of the hispanics. but at some point, he will faces normal people like sean hannity and me. believe me, when that happens, you are going to have a very bad night. >> you about as normal as people from mars. you think you are normal? >> i'm normal. i don't think you are normal. but i'm normal. you are not normal. i'm a normal, god-fearing american. >> what do you say bill cunningham -- >> i am the voice of the common man. i'm from ohio. >> here's a common-man question for you. mitt romney's people get off the plane in england and they said -- >> he denied it -- he denied it -- [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: wait a minute. we have to be fair. this is an unnamed person --
wait a minute. the romney camp -- >> this is the tabloids in great britain, some of them are nuts. >> you are out of your mind. get a background-- i don't want to hear about unnamed sources. they are meaningless to me. show me the tape. there is a tape -- >> there is a guy doing a background on the foreign policy of mitt romney, which is nonexistent, except his trip on the qe2. >> sean: are we better off than we were 4 years and $5 tril whereon in debt ago? >> of course not! if you built a small business, it was your fault and the private economy's doing great. we need more public-sector employees. he said that also, correct? your guy said that? take responsibility, beckel! >> get your finger out of my face. let me tell something, when you selectively edit what barack obama said, he said, there are roads and bridges, you didn't build that. you are going to take that and
say-- bob, we wouldn't be here if god didn't breathe air into our lungs and give us a soul -- if your mother didn't -- >> what does that have -- >> you can't handle the truth -- >> you can't handle the truth. >> about barack hussein obama -- get your finger out of my face. >> let's see if we can do this. >> at least it's the right finger. >> i know, i have seen you -- "the five." >> i am trying to do my best here. you wanted heat here, leave us alone. >> i am telling you, your guy at this point is going to be the second coming. 8 days before this election, the people are going to say, romney crosses the threshold, i can see him as the president. your guy's going to lose like carter -- >> you know what rom romney is? he's a ken doll with a ken doll personality. >> he is not! >> why is he so afraid --
>> the state of massachusetts-- hang on. hold on. name me one example where barack obama's created a single job? name one. >> the auto industry is one. all the groups that support the auto industry. >> we lost $25 billion on the g.m. bailout. >> sean: they still ore over $30 billion. i will build you any company you want. >> you think toyota's the only company in america. >> no, no, no. we have free market that protects -- >> that did us real good -- >> it's better than this. your you talking about no 42 market and it's the road to socialism. >> you near trickle-down reaganism. >> ronald reagan led -- i am a conservative. >> you said trickle down -- i am not going to bow your head. >> bow your head -- >> get out of here. the point is -- >> wait a minute. this is not "the five."
this is a classy show, bob. >> sean: be nice. we like "the five." stop. >> are you kidding me? >> i have seen your act on "the five," bill. >> i have seen your act. let's not break back into being nice here-- i can't even have control when youor the show. >> bob, you are absolutely ridiculous. >> sean: the new attitude for america and people all over the world are confident in our leadership. i don't believe this for a minuteful, what obama's saying. >> because we are leading around the world, people have a new attitude toward america. there is more confidence in our leadership. we see it everywhere we go. we see it across the globe when people are asked which country do you admire the most, one nation comes out on top. the united states of america. >> sean: making it up as he goes along. >> you know his popularity ratings in israel is single digits now? >> well, he's not running in israel, number 1. and number 2, you show me how
many jewish votes mitt romney's going to get. he can barely find has way to israel. >> did obama find his way to israel -- >> not in his first term. >> he's going to lose florida because of the jewish vote. >> when did you get to be a campaign consultant and theororrist. >> you never were one in '84. otherwise, jimmy carter would have won. >> that's a bum dial. descru to resort to that sfwh that was a cheap low. >> how did you do with mondale? >> not well. i got the last one by default. >> take over for obama. >> we are so much better off than we were four years ago, it's unbelievable. >> sean: they were fighting before we got on the air. >> i'm dilutional? >> you are schizophrenic if i'm dilutional. >> i'm schizophrenic? >> you would recognize it, wouldn't you? the personality that's coming out is the same one that you who didn't like mitt romney --
>> i am okay with him. >> sean: we have to break. i am losing control. coming up, president obama is defending his request "you didn't build it" comments, saying it was taken out of context. and unveiling the ad that puts the remark right back into context and an obama surrogate in virginia pulls the race card and delivers a despicable rant. will the president denounce this. >> he is speaking to their friends out there who do not want to see anybody other than a white person in a leadership position. as much advanced techy as the world around it. with the available leus enform app suite, you can use opentable to make restaurant reservations. during the golden opportunity sales event, get great values on se of our newest models. this is the pursuit of perfection.
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>> every day, hard-working people make a sacrifice to make a payroll, create jobs. what i said was that we need to stand behind them, as america always has. >> sean: that was the president in a new ad, trying to undo the damage of his ridiculous "you didn't build that comment." now his answer is to blame mitt romney for taking him out of conference. the rnc decided to put the president back in context in a set of new ads and let's just say tdoesn't look like mitt romney twisted the president's words at all. let's roll on the ad. >> okay, fans. let's go to the fumble of the week. barack obama drops the ball at the one yard line. >> if you have a business -- you didn't build that.
somebody else made that happen! >> and team obama contests the call. >> actually, he didn't say that. >> twist my words around and slice and dice. >> those ads were taken out of context. >> watch the tape. >> you heard the man. let's go to the tape. >> you didn't build that. somebody else made that happen. >> oh! >> nobody else made that happen! >> watch the tape. [slow motion tape peculiar [. >> someone else made that happen. >> sorry, mr. president. you are out of touch, out of ideas. and you are outta there! >> sean: here with reaction to that ad and much more, the pollster, frank luntz. first of all, there is no slicing, no dicing, full context. that's a desperate move, 12 days later. >> well, let's take a look at both ads. when barack obama speaks to camera, he does have that level of connection, that republicans
are still frustrated with because they look at lim and they say, his record on the deficit, his record on the debt, his record on the jobs and the economy, but when he looks straight to camera, it works. >> sean: well, but the president goes on to say that, you know, our plan worked. if this is what's working, we are really in deep trouble. all right. the rnc has another ad. let's roll there and get your professional opinion. let's roll this. >> if you have been successful, you didn't get there on your own. you didn't get there on your own. i am always struck by people who think, wow, it must be because i was just so smart. there are a lot of smart people out there. it must be because i worked harder than anybody else. let me statistical tell you something, there are a whole bunch of hard-working people out there. if you were successful, somebody along the lines gave you some help! there was a great teacher
somewhere in your life. somebody helped to create this unbelievable american system that we have that allowed ow to thrive. somebody invested in roads and bridges. if have you a business, that -- you didn't build that. somebody else made that happen. >> the republican national committee is responsible for the content of this advertising. >> sean: that's it. no suppliesing, no dicing, in context. >> that's a better ad because it's barack obama's words. in the testing we have done, two things matter t. has to be an issue that you care about. for small businesses owners and people who believe in the american dream and the idea that cusackifies and work hard and struggle and get ahead, that ad appeals to them. and the second thing, it's barack obama's words themselves. you can't run away from it. you can't edit it. so the rnc ad is one of the best ads i have seen so far. >> sean: think about what he is
saying about his fundamental beliefs are -- you didn't build that. maybe god did breathe life into your soul and your mother changed your diapers and fed you mashed peas and carrots. >> not my mom. i came from a jewish household. everything i was fed, i didn't want to eat and and don't laugh at that? he goes off prompter and this is what happens. >> this is one thing more powerful than that, when you ask a small business owner, someone who has struggles, who has sacrificed, it is better when it comes from that person saying, mr. president, you don't understand me, you don't get me, you don't appreciate what i have beenthat would be more effectiv. >> sean: is he going to get away with "our plan worked" with the economy in the current state? that's another new strategy. >> no. 8.2% unemployment and a deficit out of control and a debt that really scares americans.
we are looking at the economy, it is getting worse. in the interviews i am doing in ohio and michigan and north carolina, florida -- they are more afraid, not less afraid of the future. they believe that washington can't necessarily add jobs. but they can stop wasteful washington spending. >> sean: all right. we saw in the latest poll that the blaming bush tactic doesn't work. the president's saying that -- our plan -- it worked. and america's coming back. we fixed the economy and people respect us. there is a new attitude in america. that's want going to work. negativity hasn't worked. what is he left with, at this point? >> he is left with trying to destroy mitt romney. -- so far that, hasn't worked. >> he has maintained a narrow lead-- yeah but that nbc poll skews 11 points democrat. >> in every survey, basically obama has a 1 or 2-point lead. >> sean: abc poll, 9 points,
they outsourced democrats. >> more people do identify themselves as democrats than they do republican. >> sean: 40% is conservative. >> we don't disagree on that. but we would agree, it's a dead heat. and the only way that barack obama sees a path to the election is destroying mitt romney. so it's up to mitt romney and his campaign, to speak up, to fight back, to be specific. to draw the contrasts and not sit back and be a punching bag. by the way, if you want to do one of these focus group it's. >> sean: let you yell at the people. >> on fox news, go to luntz global dot-com. >> sean: and you yell at them. >> and they get paid and they get a clans to have their voices heard. it's actually your voice and the american people? >> i am just kidding you, of course. but do you yell a little bit. a classic "hannity" shootout. michael bloomberg floats the idea of a universal nationwide
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>> sean: gun control advocates are wasting no time politicizing the shooting in colorado. among those who injected themselves in was the ultimate political opportunist, the man who has no problem changing parties to secure his own election, new york city mayor michael bloomberg. believe it or not, he suggested that police go on strike until more gun control laws are in fact passed. >> i don't understand why the police officers across this country don't stand up collectively and say, we are going to go on strike. we are not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what is required to keep us safe. after all, police roofs want to
go home to their families. and we are doing everything we can to make their job more difficult, but more importantly, more dangerous, by leaving guns in the hands of people who shouldn't have them. >> sean: now, mayor bloomberg later had to walk back his statement, claiming he didn't mean that the police should liter really go on strike and pointed out that it would be illegal in new york city. here to analyze the comments and the other ways that the left is attempting to take advantage of a tragedy -- not the first time -- the author of the number 1 best seller, the culture of corruption, michelle malkin and tam raholder. within hour, the tea party is blamed. sean hannity is mentioned by name, chronicled by michelle malkin's web site. within hour, exploitation used for a political purpose. why this instant knee-jerk reaction by your side, after
almost every tragedy, to do this, why? >> you don't think it's a knee-jerk reaction to say that all comments by liberals are insane. michelle malkin's new blog says insane comments by the left. you can't everything for making it -- what michael bloomberg said wasn't necessarily a reality. he didn't want everybody to just leave-- but he said it. he obviously didn't know his own law. >> the point is-- if it's gab giffords or tucson, or this case, the race to blame the tea party is obnoxious. >> where are the blames -- why was account not your intro-- you were talk about this police department. >> sean: tam ra-- he is exploiting it for political expediency to advance a cause. i will throw that to michelle. this is the point. kilist a dozen of them now. >> that's right.
i diagnosed it with blame righty syndrome, in the wake of the mass murder hist earia after the awful atrocity in arizona. i wish tam rawould confront reality one of these days. you played a certifiably insane comment from michael bloomberg -- [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: hang on. one at a time. >> let me put the pause button on you and let me put a pause button this entire madness that we have had after the aurora atrocity. michael bloomberg, an elected government official, essentially endorse endorsed anarchy. he called on police officers who are paid and who are employed by the government to protect and to serve, to go on strike. and then afterwards, he had to eat his own words because, of course, his lawyers probably reminded him of the taylor ordinance, which prohibits
officials from endoartion public strikes like this, which endanger the public. these people are not, not concerned about public welfare, public safety or self-defense and individual empowerment because if they were, they would be groveling on the ground apologizing -- not only -- not only to the law-abiding people -- shush -- >> shush?! really?! shush! >> we don't know who -- [overlapping dialogue] >> grow up! >> really?! first, i would like to say that i think that the liberals are losing this argument. okay, maybe i'll get one conservative follower of yours to agree with what i am saying. i think that the liberals lose the argument had they call these weapons assault weapons, which i have done myself and i have been willing to become educated. they are not assault weapons. they do not kill as well as a moose rifle or a rifle-- you are getting off topic.
>> no, no, no. the problem is separating the crazies from the inner city, from what mayor bloomberg is stupidly saying. the issue of guns is larger than just a five-minute debate. people die in different ways in this country-- the question isism the exploitation within moments of a tragedy president is blame -- this is what you chronicled -- they blame the tea party, they blame you, they blame me, they blame fox, talk radio, the list goes on. >> yes-- go ahead. >> i was going to say that the problem with people like michael bloomberg and the people with people like tam raholder is they don't think about what they are saying. i take the time to listen -- [overlapping dialogue] >> just a couple of minutes ago -- just a couple of minutes ago, you called us essentially haters and insane, for condemning michael bloomberg's remarks and then you just said that what he said was nutty.
we chronicle time and time again -- >> what is chronicling -- do you work for the white house chronicling tapes? you chronicle, you self-dysdiagnose, you come up with all of these rhyme, your name is not robert frost. you are not a poet. let's get to the issues. >> this is just an extension of "you are just a blogger." i have heard this before. [overlapping dialogue] >> chronicle every time you have this knee-jerk blaming. and you say, who was it? who did that? abc news did it. all of these left-wing hollywood celebrities. all the people who went after your friend and mine sean hannity and rush limbaugh. we are hearing about how it's conservative free speech and political activism that is to blame for these nut-balls who are responsible for their own behavior. why can't we at least agree on that? please! >> no-- real quick --
[overlapping dialogue] >> he could have taken the bomb that was in his house and he could have put it in his car and driven it through the theater and caused a lot more damage than what these guns that he had. >> sean: the point is that conservatives get blamed and this is a false narrative by the left. in the political way, it's dirty air, dirty water -- >> this is not a political issue [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: that's the point -- it is exploited by the left and not just mayor bloomberg. >> michael bloomberg is moronic. >> sean: that is thank you. the president proves that he does not have the courage to stand behind what he preaches as the obama team is staying very tight lipped about the comments made by one of their campaign surrogates. where is the president's lectures to his own surrogate on civility? next. >> i believe it's all about race. and for the first time in my
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>> sean: silence. that's what we are hearing from the obama campaign after a virginia treating team member, louise lucas made the outrageous comment. >> let's be real clear about it. mitt romney is speaking to a group of people out there who don't like folks like barack obama in any elective or leadership position. we know what's going on here. some people may be afraid to say. it but i'm not. i am not afraid to say t. he's speaking to their friends out there twho do want want to see anybody other than a white person in a leadership position. >> do you really believe now that this is still about race?
>> i absolutely believe it's all about race and for the first time in my life, i have been able to convince my children, finally, that racism is alive and well. >> sean: her comments are absolutely absurd. the president and his team should have denounced the comments. david axelrod made a statement saying that they, the obama administration is running a positive campaign. >> i would point out that much of our advertising has been positive. we have been from the very beginning of this campaign, we have been the target of hundreds -- more than $100 million of negative ads from governor romney and his colleagues. >> sean: all right. just another example to add to the long laundry list of obama hypocrisy. joining me is david webb. he's on sirius xm and the new york civil rights coalition, mike myers. first of all, it's obama who has
outspinet romney, 95% of his ads have been negative. that's issue one. i want to know where is president civility? >> it's gone, sean! let's face. it it was never going to happen. we have talked about this. the only way he can do this is divide people into groups and subsets and get that amailingmation again. this goes beyond that because this is horrific, what she said. but what is even more horrific to me, she says, i absolutely believe it's all about race and are the first time in my life, i have been able to convince my children finally that racism is alive and well. racism is taught. that's why people can have epifannies. this woman is practicing racism and this campaign, this president -- and she asks for a national conversation on race-- but, mike, she's a surrogate with the virginia truth team, speaking on behalf of the campaign.
once again, the president is silent. he lectures the country regularly on tone and civility. >> i must say that when i heard her comments, i shook because they were not only devissive, they were ignorant. they were abhorrent. they were race i felt, poisonous, venomous rhetoric t. needs refutation. the answer to your question is -- where is barack obama's voice? either the answer is two things. one, he is cowardice. he didn't have the courage to speak up against racial bigotry of this time, this racial rhetoric, this venom. or else, there is agreement. he must agree because this guy is supposed to be one of the most articulate people in the world and he has not addressed the issue. i think he identifies with racial rhetoric. i think he identifies with jeremiah wright and with derek bell and al sharpton. he identifies with the new black
panther party. me and eric holder who-- here's what i don't understand. >> they are the cowards. they are not speaking truth. she is a member of the truth panel team and she cannot speak the truth. >> sean: here's what i want to know. it seem it's maybe this is one big distinction between bill clinton and barack obama, the end of welfare as we know it. the sister soldier moment. bill maher, the war on women, he takes a million dollars against someone who uses the "c" word, "b" word against prominent conservative women. racial rhetoric used by a surrogate, spokesperson, part of their truth squad, silence. the media -- no coverage. >> there are two forms of hypocrisy, the one is the media. they won't cover t. two, the obama campaign comes out and they take every effort when a surrogate for mitt romney speaks
to parse it, to attack it. but when theirs do something even worse -- think about it, she represents the virginia 18th district. do they represent you? that's the question for america tonight. do these people represent and you your values? >> sean: last word, mike. >> my last word, i have to say that this is such a racist statement. any time you evaluate a person simply because he's black, it's racist that you oppose his record or criticize his performance-- romney's now basically being accused of being a raft -- racist. >> i say to barack obama directly. find your voice, condemn this racial poison. stop this hadispred stop the polarization. >> he won't do it. >> he won't do. >> it this is who he is. take a look at the man for who he is-- you are not saying he's a racist. >> i am saying that this is part whoof he is. >> he identifies with racial demagoguery. >> progressives p-r-e-y on
everybody to achieve their goals? >> is it more simplistic, that the obama campaign is willing to say anything because they can't run on their record? >> absolutely. >> sean: is it more simple? >> divide -- >> i say that he has failed in terms of what he promised and people need to speak the truth. his members of his truth team to speak the truth. and they never do. all of their rhetoric is falsehood. >> sean: where is president civility? >> he never there was. >> sean: should governor sarah palin speak at the rnc convention next month? our bipartisan panel weighs in on the pros and cons of her taking the stage. that and much more coming up next, right here on "hannity." jim twitchel is this true? yes it's true. how is this possible? proper tire inflation, by using proper grades of oil, your car runs more efficiently, saves gas.
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to date from the republican convention and with only a month until tampa, should former alaska governor sarah palin get a speaking spot at the 2012 g.o.p. convention? joining me, the bipartisan panel to discuss the pros and cons of having the former vice-presidential canned dit take the stage. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> sean: i think she will be there and i think, of course, she should be there. >> absolutely. she needs to be there. no one can excite the base like sarah palin. she had enormous success with endorsements. she is doing an event with ted cruz, an important race. she had a 90% success rate with her endorsments in 2010 and in 2008, she revitalized the ticket f. it wasn't for sarah palin, so many people would be been disengaged. she made that ticket what it was. they didn't win because there was a financial crisis and john mccain suspended his campaign. but sarah palin would have led that ticket to victory. she needs to be there.
>> sean: she's having an huge impact in the primary and her endorsements. she gets bigger crowds than anybody else. of course, have you to have her. >> it would be the best thing for barack obama. the man you are committed -- >> oh. >> sean: oh, come on. >> her negative is 60%. she's been attacking republicans and democrats, if you look at what she emailed to newsweek. bottom line, she would be a divisive force and remind swing voters about everything that's wrong -- >> she takes on the problems that are in both parties. that's why people respect ther. this is the g.o.p. convention. we want people excite audio. >> sean: let me tell you -- we are told that the keynote's going to be, i guess governor christie. so he won't be vice-president. probably a good indication he would be off the list of consideration. but i am going to actual something, when they go through barack obama's record and they lay it out for the american
people -- >> that's why sarah palin is the wrong person to speak because it turns attention, sabe, away from obama's record, which is very hard to defend, to sarah palin -- >> what we fwheed is someone who pulls no punches. someone tough and bold. i want sarah palin there. i want scott walker there. i want the conservative heros to say, you know what -- >> conservative heros and divisive figures -- [overlapping dialogue] >> sean:. >> sean, you have an inclusive message. i am trying to get to you run yourself. i think that would be good. i would love to see you speak -- [overlapping dialogue] -- >> i would vote for you. >> sean: here we g. i am voting -- >> liberty is an inclusive message. >> she has been divisive.
>> sean: you need to be on the road with you, as i have. i have been around a lot of politicians. i have been to presidential events. i am telling you, she has it. it's a very interesting -- >> she excites the base and turns off the middle. >> sean: this race is not going to hinge on who speaks at this convention. this race is going to be about -- it will be a referendum on the failed record of barack obama -- >> that's why obama is trying to make this a referendum on george bush-- it's not working. >> she is not on the ticket. >> 6 points ahead in the wall street journal poll. >> sean: you know whose negatives are skyrocketing, look at the poll, comparing april to now, you know, barack obama's now at a 36% approval rate, 48% disapproval rate. he's a sitting president! >> that's why he is going to make-- that's why he is going to lose. >> anybody he can drag introt
romney campaign, the issue. palin is a real problem. >> bold colors -- >> ronald reagan. >> she will pull no punches and excite the base. >> optimism, not divisiveness? >> the last thing i would add to this is that i think when people when the country starts to pay close attention, i don't think there is any doubt that people will ask themselves the very basic question, which what you are talking about -- are we better off than we were four years ago? >> we are clearly not. >> sean: we are not. the president -- >> romney is an inclusive main that talks about how he is going to create jobs -- >> you can have -- >> it hasn't happened yet. >> sean: they can walk and chew gum. >> why his negative's going up. >> he can have tea party members. we can have governor christie. you want an inclusive main, lees let's have sarah palin, a huge
voice in 2008 and can be a huge voice now. let's get everyone involved. >> sean: are you voting for obama? >> i am not. i am not voting for romney. i am waiting for you, sean. that's not wasting my vote. >> sean: i will take it as a compliment. coming up, chaos in anaheim, rioters are smashing windows, starting fires and attacking police with rocks. what sparked the outrage? mark fuhrman will analyze what's going on out in california. with the spark miles card from capital one, thor's couture gets the most rewards of any small business credit card. your boa! [ garth ] thor's small business earns double miles on every purchase, every day! ahh, the new fabrics, put it on my spark card. [ garth ] why settle for less? the spiked heels are working. wait! [ garth ] great businesses deserve the most rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with double miles
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>> sean: tonight erups in anaheim, california. rioters have taken to the streets, damaging storefronts and setting fires and hurting bottles at police. the rioting started after two deadly shootings by police. a gang member was killed after running from authorities and the violent protest after a second shooting on sunday when joel mathew also reportedly, a gang member, was shot and killed while firing an an officer. we have learned that federal officials will review the shootings. joining me is the former lapd detective, mark fuhrman. i know we are having an audio problem. thanks for using your phone.
as we look at the video, let's talk about what happened and what is unfolding there. >> lyou know, sean, what is interesting about this is just how you describe these shootings. have you two gunning membersn involved in both of these shootings and i think people are passing over the conduct that gangs are involved in -- violence, drugs and other violent crimes. so to have the police interact with them is not shocking and have them engaged in a deadly encounter is not shocking whatsoever. but everybody's just kind of blowing over that fact. it's disturbing. >> sean: one of the problems we have in almost every case, mark, and i wasn't there, you weren't there and nor were the people who are rioting. there is always, it seems, a rush to judgment. and nobody wants to give the time to allow the facts to come in. >> well, you know, sean, this is an opportunity, this is an opportunity for the average
person who has an ax to grind with authority or the police or whichever authorities that -- that they have a problem with, this is an opportunity to keep the police off balance, to actually maybe exert pressure on politicians and administrators who will rush in and have somebody, you know, review the cases and rush in and try to appease irrational people, they are not rational, they are criminals right now. they are not acting under constitutional rights to assemble. they have gone over that. they have become criminals. they are assaulting people. >> sean: let me ask you a question on that front. whenever these incidents happen, we have all of this videotape, we can identify many of the people who are involved. there's an example, you can see people on video, committing crimes. we never go back and review the videotape and arrest the people we know committed crimes in these instances. why don't we ever do that? >> we do do that.
lapd did that. in the 80s, we had a lot of demonstrations in the early 90s, we did exactly that. we had people in the crowd foeoing, we had people in buildings and other locations-- you never hear about it. >> yes, we did do that. you don't hear about it because, you know, it is publicity that the media doesn't want to cover. you know, you have these -- insiders, these anarchists that come from outside areas to actually fuel the anger that might just be frustration and anger and some kind of connection that people have with the suspects in these shootings. but what you have is people just inciting -- throwing fuel on the emotional fire that's going. they do this and that's who we try to identify. you try to identify them at the riots, at the demonstrations. and snatch them right then. that's what they should be doing. they should be more