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>> it is literally on nut street. it is like they decided you know what, we won't do something goofy, and they happened to be on banana fart drive. >> did you just fall asleep? >> you know what dessert is spelled backwards? stressed. >> oh my god. you literally fell asleep when i was talking. tonight -- >> why don't you define your beef with me and fox news? >> i think there are times when you are bold and fresh. >> question go mano a mano about the worthiness of fox news. he thinks we may not be so great. i think he may be misguided. don't miss this shootout. >> my campaign is about the 100% of america and i'm concerned about them. >> mitt romney trying to fight back on his criticism of the entitlement culture. but the truth is, many americans are embracing free stuff.
we will have a special report. >> lot of anticipation for the big debate coming up. i'm not talking about obama-romney. i'm not talking about ryan-biden. i'm talking about bill o'reilly versus jon stewart. >> it's the talk of the nation and megyn kelly has some thoughts about what might happen at the rumble in the air conditioned auditorium. >> bill o'reilly wants to tango. i shall meet new the square! >> caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. >> hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the slacker factor, that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. apparently mitt romney has begun to take the offensive about comments that were offensive to liberal americans. earlier, he was seen on tape saying that many americans would
not vote for him because they want free stuff rather than earn their way. talking appointments pointed out on tuesday, that's largely true. let's break it down. when i was teaching high school in miami, florida, there were three kinds of students in my class. the first student worked hard and succeeded fairly well. the second student worked hard, but found getting good grades difficult for a variety of reasons. they didn't fail, but they weren't scoring big. and the third type of student didn't work at all. and many of them made excuses for their failure to do so. here is the point. some of those failing students were outraged that i held them accountable for their laziness. they couldn't believe that i was giving them bad grades. they felt entitled to pass no matter what they did. that was 40 years ago. today the situation is for worse. we've been a culture that generally excuses bad behavior. we make an excuse for it. unless it's felony type stuff. while my parents held me accountable for my actions, many parents today let their kids do what they want, they don't want
to study, they don't have to. that attitude is flooding the marketplace. that's what mitt romney was talking about, a fairly significant percentage of americans who believe society owes them stuff. even if they don't even try to succeed. it's impossible to put a percent annual on people who think that way and therein lies mitt romney's mistake. 47% of americans are not slackers. the governor knows that. so in trying to make his point to a friendly audience, he didn't word the criticism properly. but there is no question that president obama and the democratic party are not very interested in holding people account annual. they are far more interested in giving them stuff in return for votes. that's strategy may succeed. dennis miller put it well last night. >> i think a lot of people are worried that we're starting to skew over into a place where more people are not going for it than going for it. that's dangerous. >> it's dangerous because the successful people cannot carry everybody else.
as margaret thatcher once said about socialism, there comes a point when you run out of other people's money. and we have. the sad truth is that today millions of americans are not willing to do what it takes to support themselves. they want the government to provide. they feel it is owed to them. yes, times are tough. yes, it's not easy to get a good job. even the face of a severe recession, most of us are working hard. many are succeed o'clock. but far too many are not trying hard enough. that's a memo. the top story tonight, after president obama was caught on tape saying he supports income redistribution, what we're talking about, that's taking money from the successful and giving it to the less successful, an nbc news correspondent said this. >> we have not authenticated this 14-year-old tape. when barak obama was a state senator. so because we have not independently at nbc news and msnbc authenticated it, we're not airing it.
>> that situation were reverse add short time later and they did run the tape. joining us from boston, democratic strategist mary ann marsh and from los angeles, fox news analyst, lesley. freedman from the "new york times" on this program yesterday and i asked this question. it's a simple question 'cause as you know, lesley, i am a simple man. >> yes. >> mr. freed, what country can you point that that practices income redistribution on a large scale, that is powerful and successful in the world today? he didn't have one. >> is that my question? >> yeah, because you're smarter than freedman. so i'm asking you the same question. mr. freedman didn't have one. do you? >> i do actually. 2005 countries. i would say that -- i know that you're going to argue with me about this, i would say the united kingdom and france and germany would be a better example. >> germany, number one, doesn't practice income redistribution, neither does switzerland.
those are the two most powerful countries in europe. france is instituting a 75% tax on their wealthy citizens. so i don't think they're strong economically. i know they're not. you basically can't point to one, lesley. can you, mary ann? can you give me a country that practices income redistribution on a large level that's economically powerful? >> yeah, the united states of america. it's called taxes. and we've had them since the constitution. >> we're economically powerful now with a $16 trillion debt? we're economically powerful? >> despite our troubles, despite our troubles, we're still the most powerful nation in the world and the envy of all. it's that system that made us that way. >> wait a minute. you think -- >> it works when people pay their fair share. that's the problem. >> you think that at this moment in history, in american history, that we are a powerful economic engine with all of the debt we have, with the huge deficit we have, with the unemployment rate
stubborn as it is, you think that we are prospering as a nation economically? >> we are not as well off as we have been even as recently as six, ten years ago, but we are still the wealthiest nation in the world. >> all right. we may be the wealthiest nation in the world, but it's not because of income redistribution. now, lesley, when bill clinton was president, we had a very good economy, as everybody remembers. at that point, there were 17 million americans, lesley, on food stamps. in the clinton administration. all right? today there are 47 million. let me repeat that. 17 million on food stamps in clinton, good economy. 47 million under president obama. that stat alone, that's income redistribution. that's basically giving people money to buy food, here, free money. take it. all right? that can't be a healthy situation, lesley. can it? >> it's not because of people everyone wanting a handout.
i can't disagree. there are some people out did there -- >> how do you go from 17 to 47 -- 15 years how do you go from 17 to house of 47? >> there are a couple of reasons. one is population increase -- >> population increase? >> we'd healthy economy during bill clinton's time. the economy has gone downhill since then. >> not in the portion of entitlement spending. entitlements are way out of whack to the unemployment rate. way out of whack and you ladies know it. i'm trying to be fair here, marian. i am trying to be fair. every economic indicator shows that this country is getting deeper and deeper into debt. and the entitlement culture is rising, rising and rising. don't you see what's happening in greece? don't you see what's happening in spain? it's absolutely going to happen here if this continues, mary ann. >> it's not. and here is why. what made this country great is
when people paid their fair share. there are cheats on both ends of the economic spectrum and like there are people on the lower end cheating the system, there are very wealthy people who cheat the system by not paying their fair share. >> you're right. there are cheaters on both side. demagoguing the issue. even he gets the taxes up, it isn't going to come close to funding what the president wants to fund. >> you have -- you can't just do that. you have to do cuts. you have to do -- >> he doesn't want to do cuts. maybe he will after he buys the election, i don't know. >> ladies, thanks very much. laura ingraham on why so many americans continue to support president obama in the face of a bad economy. later, ted koppel versus me. interviews me for nbc tonight and i interview him for "the factor" about the worthiness of cable news. don't miss it, moments
virginia, 42% say president obama's economic policies have helped. 37% hurt. amazing to me. joining us now to try to explain it, miss laura ingraham who is in washington. you talk to the folks every day on your radio program. try to put yourself in the shoes of people who are saying, yeah, his economic policies helped the country. where are they coming from? >> let's first deal with the virginia numbers, bill. i think in virginia, especially in northern virginia, which is so critical in this new battle ground state, northern virginia voters have been both directly and indirectly helped by the federal government. directly by just jobs, working in the federal government. they commute over the bridge to dc every day. indirectly because of very large defense contracts and other government contracts that spin off into private industry in the area. so for them, the government presence and the cultivation of it is very important to the economic life blood of the region. people who have jobs in restaurants, hotels, drivers,
they're all beneficiaries of this very large government presence, the government bureaucracy. so that's number one. number two, the florida numbers are perplexing because of the large drop in home values in florida. i don't know, maybe they don't directly relate that to president obama. it's a little curious. >> bill: florida unemployment is 8.8%. virginia unemployment is 57.9 -- 5%. the republican governor in virginia and in ohio, it's 7.2%. another republican governor. but look, it's hard for me to generalize this. there is a perception throughout the country, not just in these three days, that barak obama is doing a good job economically. >> i'm not sure it's a per vasesive -- you're right, there are the states where the numbers are a little perplexing. what i think the president and his team have done masterfully is frame this election with the help of bill clinton in this way: that these problems are so
monumental and they were bigger than even we thought when we came in, bush handed us such a mess, that one person and one term, even with the great people i have around me, can't really change this. that we need more time, we need to keep going down the same path. that was a really brilliant way to frame this and it required a republican party and specifically mitt romney to come in and say, whoa, whoa, whoa. we don't have to lower your expectations. we're actually going to raise everybody up. you can expect a lot more from your government and your leaders. i'm going to show you the way. here are x, y and z policies that are going to really raise everybody's mclevel, everybody's prosperity and have the great spin off effect of helping your home values as well. so the lowering the expectations game from a man who campaigned on hope and change and changing the dynamic is quite amazing, but in a way quite brilliant. >> bill: let me throw something out to you. this is just theoretical on my part. i usually don't operate in this
world. >> but i think there may be something to this. everybody is on a computer, right? >> yeah. >> everybody's got the little blueberry or whatever they got and stuff in their ear they listen to all the time. >> by the time black berry is obsolete, you'll know it's a black berry. >> bill: so everybody is diverted. their attention is diverted because they have machines 24/7. they're texting, whatever they're doing. they don't have time to read or watch news programs. they don't have time to do anything. so they catch little snatches here and there. >> pop culture moments. >> bill: yeah. they catch little things here and there. but i'm thinking that maybe the electorate in america is so dumbed down now because that's all they do now. >> bill, they're ingesting pop culture 24/7. >> bill: don't you think i'm right? >> i think you're on to something very much so. the obamas are going on "the view." you and i have both been on there. nice folks.
and mitt romney goes on with kelly ripa, nice lady. fun show. but we have really, really serious problems facing america. when you're asked questions like, well, what do you have on your ipod or do you like "jersey shore"? i think to myself, are you kidding me? we have 16 plus trillion dollars. we've now shoved onto the backs of the successsive generations if our country. do people understand what what is about to happen? >> bill: no, they don't understand what the debt is. >> let me tell you, if they don't understand, bill, the republicans have no up with to blame really but themselves. >> bill: that's right. romney has to go out there and almost shake people by the lapels and he isn't do that. i want to tell the audience watching right now, watching laura and me, we're not talking about you guys. you guys are engaged. you guys are paying attention. >> they're more informed than the average person. >> bill: we're talking about those watching the world wrestling federation 18 hours a day. >> we have to remember a lot of young voters who are trying
to -- wonder how am i going to get a job and pay back student loans, they kind of like obama, he seems cool. >> bill: i don't mind that. i just want the -- >> all i'm saying is -- you think understands you. so it's incumbent on romney to say i may not be cool enough o hang out with jz, but i'm going to raise your expectations. not lower them. >> bill: he's got to get more forceful about it. >> substantive. >> bill: thank you. directly ahead, ted am koppel doesn't much like cable news and he confronts me. but die the same to him. koppel versus o'reilley moments
broadcaster ted koppel not a big fan of cable news. he thinks it has harmed journalism. he says the commercial success of fox news and msnbc is a source of nonpartisan sadness for me. i can appreciate the financial logic of drowning television viewers in a flood of opinions designed to confirm their own biases, but the trend is not good for the republic, unquote. the big mistake mr. koppel is making is putting me in that category of speaking to the choir. i don't. you know it. so i had to convince mr. koppel of that. i spoke with him a couple of weeks ago. so why don't you define for the vast factor audience your beef with me and fox news. what's your beef? >> i don't have a beef with you. i really don't. let me modify that a little bit. i think there are times when you are -- what's the phrase you like so much -- a bold and fresh.
>> bill: piece of humanity. >> sometimes a little too bold and too fresh. sometimes a little too intolerant of allowing people to complete an answer. >> bill: does that offend you? >> does it offends me? it offends me when you're rude. it offends me when you ride over people, which you have a tendency to do. >> bill: but i only do it when they filibuster or when they lie, as barney frank did that one time. i don't do it when somebody is sincerely trying to answer my question. it's not like it used to be. >> 15 years ago, there was a crying need for a network that focused more on conservative issues. fox has done that. msnbc has come along and tried to provide not because it saw the need for an ideological balance, but because it saw the balance sheet. >> bill: they were getting their butt kicked. there is a big difference.
you know what the difference is. >> tell me. what do you think? >> bill: you concede you don't know what it is. >> i don't know. >> bill: we do hard news here from 9 in the morning 'til 5:00 o'clock in the afternoon. eight hours of hard news. msnbc doesn't do one hour of hard news. it's all let's push the liberal democratic agenda, from sign on to sign off. so this is a news agency here. >> i don't think anyone is going to be confused as to the ideological belief of most of the people who appear on fox. >> bill: i think that's grossly unfair to the hard news reporters. okay? if you look at our bureau system and the people we have reporting, the network is more traditional, i think that's a fairer term than the other network news and give weight to people, the commentators and the people they hire. if you look at all of the journalists and we can tick them down if you want, all right, rather, brokaw, cronkite, they're all left wing guys! all of them.
you know that! >> hold it. i would argue that back in the day, you didn't know what cronkite was. >> if you were in iowa you didn't know. but if you work at cbs news you damn well knew 'cause i worked there! >> you may have known what you knew off camera, but not what he was on camera. >> bill: decisions were made about personnel, story coverage, and points of view by cronkite, brokaw, and rather who were committed left wingers. >> and koppel, you might as well add him. >> bill: you know, i think you were just in a daze all the time. i don't think you really interfered that much. i was at abc and i heard the scuttle butt about you. you weren't a big interferer. you weren't. and jennings wasn't either. he didn't like all that ideology. he didn't. that's why i didn't bring his name up. >> i rather you criticize me 'cause your compliments are more damaging and more -- >> bill: i got to tell the truth, come on. >> bill what, is it you think
that i have said about the network or written about the network? >> bill: you think we've corrupted the sanctity of fair news coverage. >> i think -- >> bill: that's what i think. >> i think that ideological coverage -- ideological coverage of the news, be it the left or right, has created a political real knit this country which is bad for america. i think it's made it difficult if not impossible for decent men and women in congress, on capitol hill to reach across the aisle and find compromise. if we can't do that, bill, we're going to be in -- and we have been, i think, for the last few years, in a terrible situation in this country where politically we can't make deals anymore. >> bill: you're blaming me and the fox news channel for the deterioration of congress. if they don't have enough guts to do what's best for the country by compromising, all
right, they don't deserve to be there and can't be on top for as long as the fox news channel has been on top and sell a product that's inferior or dishonest. it's impossible in this country. so therefore, i want you to reevaluate our network, watch it a little bit more, and then we'll talk in about a year. last word. >> the last word is how many people are watching the fox network at 10:00 o'clock in the morning or 2:00 o'clock in the afternoon or 3:00 o'clock in the afternoon? >> bill: i don't know how many people. >> you should, you work for the organization. >> bill: you know, we have millions of people watching us from sign on to sign off. >> you don't have millions watching. the millions of people are watching you, bill. the millions of people are watching those of you with a particular point of view. >> bill: that's the way the country works. that's the free marketplace. >> that's the free marketplace and i'm perfectly content to leave it on that note.
it's a business. it's operating as a business and once upon a time, you and i actually thought journalism was a calling. >> bill: but i still think i'm doing something noble. [ laughter ] later tonight on nbc, mr. koppel will be interviewing me on the same subject. i'm looking forward to seeing that. plenty more ahead as "the factor" moves along. could the guy who secretly taped mitt romney in florida be in legal trouble? megyn kelly with analysis. sop of the worst people in history were americans. that is a subject of the great american news quiz, we hope you stay tuned for those reports
>> bill: nearly 29 million americans are children of alcoholics, according to an agency that tracks them. joining us from san antonio, texas, janine turner in for jeanine pirro. and gretchen carlson. parents getting drunk or stoned in front of their kids not talked about very much. for obvious reasons, what parent is going to say, i just got blasted in front of my kid. no. and the kids aren't going to say anything most of the time because they're ashamed. so this is a problem that is kept very, very quiet. >> i put it in perspective that it has drastic ramifications for the children.
number one be, they ends up usually becoming alcoholics. >> bill: statistics show that. >> also they're embarrassed to come forward. but they harbor immense amount of anger, guilt, depression, anxiety, and most importantly, they lose what a parent's job is, to be there at all times. >> bill: they're confused. they love their mom and dad and don't know why they're acting this way and that invokes fear because they don't know how they're going to act when they're stoned or drunk. how do you see it, jeanine? >> i agree completely. i'm 26 years sober myself, so i have a lot of experience with this. it's a dark and devastating disease. this finland psa, i wish they would show it in america because what it shows is it might wake some adults up, some alcoholics up, because it's full of -- a self-centered disease. the disease is. they don't ever stop to think about how it's affecting the children.
that psa shows the danger of drunken driving, the danger of someone lurking around a playground, the danger of christmases and how ruined they are. just ruined lives. >> bill: you are a child of an alcoholic, you yourself have a 50% higher chance of becoming an alcoholic. >> yes, if you have two parents, you're 100% likely to become an alcoholic. >> bill: because obviously this is ingrained. it's not that it's attractive, it's just that it becomes something that is more acceptable. now, i didn't know you were an alcoholic, by the way. you kicked it when you were 23 years old? is that right? >> 23, yes. >> bill: off daughter. did you talk to her about your history with alcohol? >> oh, yes. my daughter has known -- we talked about this since she was little bitty. and obviously i don't drink in fronts of her and i teach her not to pick up. i teach her coping skills and she's aware of the generational -- >> bill: you tell -- you don't drink at all, do you? >> no. >> bill: do you tell her not to drink and do drugs? >> absolutely.
i tell her it's a disease, it's like an allergy and that i teach her coping skills. like we can experience joy, sadness, stress, relaxation, all these things without it. so yes, i'm very, very -- i say don't do it. >> bill: you live in the affluent suburbs. >> i live in the suburbs. >> you saw a parent drunk in front of their kids or you knew this was happening, that you knew there were children living in the house and the parents were getting drunk or mom and dad were. you saw it with your own eyes. would you report it? >> to whom? >> bill: social services. >> not if it was a one-time occurrence. >> bill: would you talk to the parents? >> i would. but what i wanted to say after what jeanine said was that the flip side is i think it's also healthy if you are going to have an occasional drink to do that in front of your children and not hide it. >> bill: you can teach them to manage alcohol. >> yes. >> bill: you can't teach them to manage drugs.
>> no, no. >> you can do that if you're not an alcoholic. >> it's healthy to describe to them -- >> bill: let's get back to my question, which is much more important than your point. look, americans are loath and i understand -- loath to report this kind of stuff. address it happens. i think most of us know people who do this. we don't want to get involved. we don't want to out ourselves out and there is almost no solution to the problem. >> obviously if i saw a parent doing that and then they were going to approach get not guilty a car or having a child -- that's a whole different scenario. >> bill: you know what i'm talking about. very hard. >> i think it's a fine line if somebody is in their own home and it's a bun-time occurrence. >> bill: you don't know if it's a one time occurrence. those are rare, by the way. thank you very much. finland, good job. when we come back, miss megyn kelly on whether the man who secretly taped mitt romney in florida could be charged criminally. kelly is next
>> bill: thanks for staying with us. i'm bill o'reilly. in the kelly file, beginning with the guy who secretly videotaped mitt romney at a fund-raiser in florida. that tape embarrassed the governor because it appeared on a far left web site and made romney look to be somewhat insensitive -- and the far left media ran with it. the guy ho shot the tape be charged with a crime?
now megyn kelly, yes, no, maybe? >> maybe. but it's not clear. the law requires two-party consent in florida. if i want to tape you, we both have to consent to it. >> 12 states have two party. >> that's exactly right. but if you can prove the person you taped, even though you department get his express consent didn't have a reasonable expectation of privacy because it was an event of 150 people at a fund raiser, held in a private home, but not exactly a private event. two people talking. >> bill: so this is on the margin here. >> it's on the margin. >> bill: in florida and 11 other states, in order to secretly tape somebody, you have to have dual consent? >> yes. >> but in the other states, duke whatever the hell you want. tape anybody at any time, anywhere, there is no expectation. that's horrible. and the federal law, you can tape anybody you want. >> uh-huh.
>> bill: i don't understand why particularly in this high-tech age, why the government isn't protecting privacy more. >> because there is an assumption if you engage in a conversation, then you are willing to stand by what you say. >> bill: who makes that assumption? >> it's another reason for us to believe that there is no such thing as privacy anymore. >> bill: isn't that wrong? >> i don't know. >> bill: you don't know? >> in today's modern society, bill -- >> bill: listen -- >> it's like you have to be a good person now. >> bill: come on. it's in the constitution that we have a right to privacy. that's why the authorities can't come in. >> you don't have to say that thing to that other person. >> bill: okay. >> if you want to keep something really private, don't say it. >> bill: you have freedom of speech, but you can't exercise it because somebody may tape it -- >> you can exercise it 12346 take it out of context. >> you can exercise it, just have good judgment about you who surround yourself with. >> bill: just like the paparrazzi long lens, unbelievably, unbelieve -- >> the paparrazzi long lens, if
you are going to be the queen of england some day, married to prince william, don't take off your top. >> bill: i disagree with you 1,000%. i think the government has -- >> just don't take off your top at all. >> bill: don't worry about that. [ laughter ] all right. now, rhode island, work class town, okay. the aclu is terrorizing the school there, saying the school, hey, you can't have father-daughter dances or anything with one parent, mother -- >> it is a me and my guy dinner dance. >> bill: tell me what that is. >> well, you're not going to like this, bill, but they're technically right under the federal law, that requires gender equality in school. >> bill: gender equality. >> it prohibits discrimination. they actually wrote in a specific exception for father-daughter dances and these type of at this time of activities. but this rhode islands, they didn't write in the exception. it's technically discriminatory
to say only fathers and daughters can come. it discriminates against the sons and the moms. but they're really concerned about the sons. >> bill: what if they had a mother-son thing? >> they need to keep it -- no, no, then that would do it. but it has to be a reasonably similar activity and the thing the aclu complained about was they were sending them to baseball. mother-son baseball games. >> bill: so what? >> which they say is not the same thing as a father-daughter dance. >> bill: it's so ridiculous. what about the aunts and uncles? >> they need to say family and dance. if they said it's a family dance. >> bill: it's a family dance. >> grandma and grandpa. >> bill: kelly, you must see where i'm going with this madness. we're in a crazy country now. we have no expectation of privacy anywhere. you can be in your house and a long lens can shoot through the window. >> that's not true. >> bill: yeah, you can. >> not inside your house. >> bill: all right. if you pick up the phone and somebody says f you and you say
f you back and they tape it and put it out, that's okay. come on. >> inside your house is a different story. kate middleton, which is what we were talking about, was on the terrace. >> bill: on the terrace. she wasn't inside, she was on the terrace, everyone. >> keep your top on! >> bill: she can't get a tan? >> poor kate, she had to give up so much to be the would be queen. oh, what a terrible deal she got! >> bill: why doesn't she represent the paparrazzi pro bono. >> you're going to live in buckingham palace, but you got to keep your top on. >> bill: you're just jealous. that's what you are. that's what it is. finally, the rumble in the air conditioned auditorium. >> brilliant. >> bill: both of us will have our tops on. we will. but we'll be taped. every word we say. here is my question to you: i'm sorry i'm even asking it because before this i thought you were level headed, am i making a
mistake doing this? >> i think you absolutely are. he's going to kill you. >> bill: you think it's ago -- he's going to kill me. >> forget that. i want to ask you, what's your biggest fear about this event? >> that you'll show up this. >> i can't believe you didn't ask me to moderate. >> bill: we couldn't do that because then he would have demand add comedy central person. he likes you. but we're doing it for charity. >> is this for entertainment value or -- or raise the level of debate. >> arthel: i'm going to did -- >> bill: i'm going to make serious points and then i'm going to mock him. the reason we're doing this is to raise a lot of money for charity. we want to give the -- you were wrong about a, the taping of everybody and you're wrong about the telephoto and wrong about kate middleton. you've been wrong every second tonight. we would like to you vote on the poll. we are asking, is my debate with
jon stewart a good or bad idea. as you may have heard, stewart and i will be slugging it out on october 6 at the george washington university in d.c it's sold out. you can see it on the net. go to therunnible 012-point com -- rumble 2012. com. much of the money generated will be donated to charity. great american news quiz. the villain edition. right back with the quiz we asked over 3,000 doctors to review 5-hour energy and what they said is amazing. over 73 percent who reviewed 5-hour energy said they would recommend a low calorie energy supplement to their healthy patients who use energy supplements. seventy-three percent. 5-hour energy has four calories and it's used over nine million times a week. is 5-hour energy right for you? ask your doctor. we already asked 3,000.
>> bill: back of the book segment tonight's. the great american news quiz, the villain edition, part 2. here now, uma pemmaraju in for steve doocy, playing for guy from newport, michigan. martha mccallum, representing kelly wing from north dakota. if you would like to win prizes g to my web site and sign up. villain edition. >> the first one was so much fun, we're doing it again. >> bill: that's right. we have a lot of villains. here is question number 1. bonnie and clyde have become major cult figures in memory pop culture. the 1967 film based on the couple was a massive success.
(shots fired). >> hey! what's your name? >> clyde bar row. >> i'm bonnie. pleased to meet you. >> bill: bonnie and clyde and their crew, the real ones, the bar row gang, wreaked havoc across the midwest in the 1930s. the f.b.i. believes the bar row gang was responsible for how many murders? 7, 9, 11, 13. how many murders? and the answer is d, 13. mccallum wins. she guessed it. it makes sense. they were brutal. they were brutal people. the movie ahead them -- warren beaty and fay did you know away. i want to have a remake. justin bieber bieber and linda .
in the 1930s, mara ranski was the financial genius behind the mob and served as the inspiration for michael corleone's enemy in "godfather 2". >> we'll do together in the next few months will make history. history. it's never been done before. not even your father would dream that such a thing could be possible. >> and he's a dead man. you don't object? >> small potatoes. >> bill: they were talking about taking over cuba, by the way, in that scene of the in 1970, he fled the usa in an attempt to escape tax evasion. where did he go? canada, france, mexico, israel? where did ranski abscond to? d, israel is correct. he stayed there for a while. he was a very bad guy. mccallum is ahead with 3 to
go. here is question number 3. jesse james, remembered as one of the most infamous american outlaws. >> can't believe i'm sitting. >> another jesse james. >> i stayed up, my eyes open. my mouth open. read being your escalades. >> it is interesting many ways. we overlap. >> you want to be like snow or you want to be me? >> bill: all right. in the end, jesse james was shot dead by a friend looking to cash in on the bounty on his head. how much was the bounty for jesse james worth? fifty dollars, $500, $5,000, $15,000? what did jesse james' killer get? cards up. the answer is c. uma pemmaraju scores. that means it's a tie. 15 grand back then? a lot of dough. >> yes, indeed. >> bill: a lot of dough. all right. question number 4, frank lucas, a drug king pin, organized crime
boss, who gained notoriety in the 1970s. the 34506y "american gangstering" "was based on his life. >> addicts who o.d'd on your product and that's my story. that's how i make it all stick. >> that's why we go to court. 'cause i got witnesses. i got celebrities. i got sports figures. i got harlem. i took care of harlem. so harlem is going to take care of me. >> bill: he made millions and evaded authorities by hiding the drugs in what? stuffed animals, vcr's, car tire s, coffins. cards up. coffins. now, do you know the catches of whom? >> the catches of whom -- coffins of whom? men and women? >> american soldiers. >> that's right. >> bill: that's right. killed american military people in vietnam.
that's how heinous this guy was. >> he was heinous. do i get half credit for that? >> bill: no. question number 5, uma pemmaraju breaks on top. mob boss james whitey bulger terrorized boston for years. >> he shot people, strangled people, run them over with cars. >> you said also he liked killing. >> yeah. >> explain that to me. >> after he would kill somebody, he'd like a stress relief. he'd be nice and calm for a couple of weeks afterward. >> bill: bulger was arrested in june of last year after 16 years on the run. where was the 81-year-old mob boss finally captured? miami, colorado, california, austin, texas? where was he captured? cards up please. come on. the answer is c. santa monica. uma. very good, uma.
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