tv Special Report With Bret Baier FOX News January 24, 2013 3:00pm-4:00pm PST
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you will be fine. >> greg: "red eye" tonight, big one. darren darren is on. the "a" -- darren darren i danan and the first "a" block is cute aggression. they get violent if they see images of cute animals. this is ground breaking, people. best thing you will see this year. >> eric: we got to go. tune in "red eye" tonight. also come back for us tomorrow. see you tomorrow, everybody. >> bret: with al-qaeda expanding in african and iran, john kerry auditions for secretary of state. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. the man who wants to be the president top diplomat stated his case to a friendly group of senators today. john kerry made it clear he knows he will have his hands full. just today, north korea said
it would conduct another nuclear test and suggested it intend to have missiles to deliver warheads to the u.s.. the fighting in syria intensified in damascus today. there is still a lot of mystery surrounding last week's hostage siege in algeria. france is ramping up the presence in the fight against islamic terrorist in mali. and the mideast is still the middle east, with the speckor of a nuclear iran and what israel might do to stop it. mike emanuel tells us the easiest part for kerry will likely be the confirmation process. >> in a dangerous world where al-qaeda finds new places to operate, the second term of the obama administration will face numerous foreign policy challenges. >> usama bin laden in documents that came out of abadabad quoted as urging his cohorts to go to other places. to get away from the
airplanes. get away from the drones. he specifically encouraged al-qaeda to disburse. and they did. >> senator john kerry is expected to be confirmed next week as america's top diplomat, replacing the former senate colleague who introduced him. he will face multiple crisis across the middle east. >> every day that goes by in syria, it gets worse. every day that goes by it gets worse. >> so there is, it seems to me a very strong impetus that we realize that the present policy is not succeeding. and to look at other options to prevent what is going on for now 22 months. and 60,000 dead. >> republican senator marco rubio said the obama policy on syria has been so disorganized when the situation is resolved, the people there will hate the u.s. >> as iran's best friend. grand central station for terrorists all over the world it was in our national interest to help an opposition
form organize itself. >> iran's nuclear program, kerry reiterated the administration policy saying the clock is ticking on efforts to get the regime to comply. >> we will do what we must do, to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. it repeat here today, our policy is not containment. it is prevention. >> if that doesn't work it could ultimately lead to military conflict. up with senator channeled kerry on whether he supported the administration bombing libya in 2011 without congressional approval. >> you see the constitution really doesn't give this kind of latitude to sometimes go to war and sometimes not go to war. >> look, you can be absolutist and apply it to every circumstance. the problem is, it just doesn't work in some instances. >> with north korea threatening confrontation with the u.s. today, kerry suggested china could play a more constructive role. other secretaries of state hoped the same thing to find beijing the obstacle.
kerry's confirmation vote is next tuesday. >> bret: thank you. on a day when the senate focused on confirming the next secretary of state, there are still a lot of questions tonight about what the current secretary said yesterday concerning the deadly terror attack in libya last september. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge with a fact check on hillary clinton. >> scrutiny of hillary clinton's testimony reveals a lack of consistency. on clinton, she cited independent review known as the accountability review board, a.r.b., to but tres her claims that the -- buttress her claim that intelligence situation is complicated. >> motivation of the perpetrators remain to be determined. >> less than 24 hours after the attack on september 12, the head of the house intelligence committee who was also receiving high level intelligence briefings like mrs. clinton told fox it was clearly premeditated terrorism. >> a coordinated military style commando type of raid that had both direct fire and
indirect fire. military movement involved in it. this was a well-planned, well-targeted event. no doubt about it. >> in this exchange before the house committee, mrs. clinton seemed to leave the impression she did not have real-time access to events as they unfolded. >> at any time, did you see the initial attack on a monitor? or the president. >> congressman there was no monitor. there was no real-time. we got the surveillance videos, some weeks later. >> in october, is charlene lamb, told the oversight committee the senior state staff were monitoring open phone lines to agent on the ground. >> you note that in your testimony, that you are in the diplomatic security command center and then you make a statement, "i could follow what was happening almost in real-time. correct. >> while clinton offered this explanation for why ambassador susan rice took her place in five national media appearances on september 16 -- >> i have to confess here in
public, going on the sunday shows is not my favorite thing to do. >> in a december interview with nbc after she withdrew for consideration for secretary of state, rice cited the change of plan. and the careful testimony in five hours of capitol hill shows benefit of speaking less. it underscored her ability to thread the needle. no glare inconsistencies but the statement didn't completely mesh with the established record. >> bret: hillary clinton received a lot of praise yesterday for the accomplishments of secretary of state from a number of lawmakers. senior political analyst brit hume is here with thoughts on that. >> good evening, bret. >> in incomium heaped on hillary clinton illustrates what is an article of faith in washington. which is that she had been a great secretary of state. she holds the record for number of countrys visited.
112. she does her homework. her conduct has been free of diplomatic stumbles or gaffeed. she worked to the point of exhaustion. effort is one thing and achievement another. the question is what are the achievements to mark her as a great secretary? arabs and israelis closer to peace today than four years ago? nuclear programs in iran and iraq been halted? is there a mayor treaty or doctrine bearing her name? the answer to these is clearly no. it's been argued that foreign policy in this administration is tightly controlled by the white house it's impossible for the cost to leave much of a mark. possibly true, it may absolve her for blame of many things but hardly adds up to a case for greatness at anything. unless, of course, avoiding blame. her kills of that were in evidence at the hearings
yesterday. >> bret: there was one moment she was heated at senator johnson and the back and forth has been played again and again on networks across the land. some people said it was her finest moment. others said not so much. politically we look through the prisesm of politics here. politically what do you think it means for her? >> for the moment, it looks good. she leaves office or is leaving office with the very high approval rating. people admire her greatly. large majorities do. what she said yesterday, the misleading information given to public about attack and aftermath that stayed out there for a while and she said what difference does it make? strong and passionate. moment of the hearing but if we find out this was a deliberate effort to mislead for political reasons and she had any part in it or could
have done something about it, that statement won't look so good anymore. >> bret: brit, thank you. >> you bet. >> bret: just who gets to take part in future wars is changing. pentagon today formally announced the intention to allow a new group of fighters on the front lines. national security correspondent jennifer griffin tonight on women in combat. >> with the stroke of a pen, secretary panetta and chairman of joints chief ended a ban on women in combat. general dempsey said he realized women were already on the front lines when he got his armored vehicle in baghdad in 2003. >> i slappe slapped the terret n around the area and said who are you? she said i'm amanda. from that point on i realized something had changed and it was time to do something about it. >> panetta smoke of opportunity -- spoke of opportunity. >> in life, as we know, there are no guarantees of success.
not everyone is going to be able to be a combat soldier. but everyone is entitled to a chance. >> marine such as ryan smith, retired sergeant who served in iraq thinks the decision puts lives at risk. >> my first sargent was mortally wounded in iraq and he was the tourett of am fibbous assault vehicle. he feels 6'5", 250-pound man. i haven't seen a woman yet that would be able to pull that man out of the amphibious assault vehicle and try to get him to medivac. >> the first female combat pilot disagrees. >> they were making the same argument back then that women didn't have the endurance or the strength to be fighter pilots. i had just completed the hawaii ironman triath lon beating most of the military men. and they said i don't have the insurance to be a fighter pilot. >> there are issues of societal norms. many americans remember when private first class jessica lynch was captured in iraq.
her recent biography details how she was rapeed by her captors. in a statement today she said she supported the change. >> listen, there is a big difference between being in harm's way, women are ambushed as part of units. they receive mortars and they have i.a.d. attacks. being in direct combat operation day in and day out is different than being in harm's way. >> the military service chiefs have until may 15 to make their case to the defense secretary about which jobs if any should still exclude women, bret? >> bret: jennifer griffin live at the pentagon. thank you. so what do you think about allowing women in combat? let me know on twitter. follow me @brettbaier. controversy is very much in the eye of the beholder. case and point later in the grapevine. up next, does president obama really want to anilate the republican party? jenna shared her recipe with sharon, who emailed it to emily, who sent it to cindy, who wondered why her soup wasn't quite the same. the recipe's not the recipe... ohhh. [ female announcer ] ...without swanson.
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>> bret: it is hard to imagine washington becoming any more politically polarized than it already is. but house speaker john boehner is warning about it. he insists now that president obama has adopted a scorched earth policy toward republicans. chief white house correspondent ed henry has the specifics. >> congratulations. godspeed. [ applause ] >> within 24 hours of the traditional inaugural lunchen, speaker john boehner was singing another tune about president obama's intentions. >> so we are expecting here over the next 22 months, to be the focus of this administration. as they attempt to annihilate the republican party. and let me just tell you, i do believe that is their goal. to just shove us in to the history. >> today, white house spokesman jay carney rejected that charge, saying you heard them say in the inaugural address, even though we have
profound differences it's imperative we come together. in the inaugural address, though, the president also took this shot at republicans. >> we cannot mistake absolutism for principle. or substitute spectacle for politics. or treat name-calling as reasoned debate. >> in the public believes since the re-election, the president has gotten more come bative. in the latest fox poll released shortly before the inauguration, 55% of voters said he has been more confrontationm toward congressional republicans. only 30% said he has been more bipartisan. >> i regret that i didn't hear one word from the president about it's time we all sat down and worked together. an addressed these issues that are confronting the nation. it is what it is. >> white house officials note the president tried for weeks to work out a budget deal with boehner. >> even though - wildly recognized to have been made in good faith and to have represented an effort to meet
the republicans halfway, the republicans walked away. >> now boehner's aides note the president warned the speaker if he didn't agree to tax increases and a long-term hi ceiling, the president would campaign against him for the next two years, charging he caused another recession. which is why boehner's aides say anailiation is the right word. >> bret: ed henry live on the north lawn. thank you. what do republicans plan to do about it? chief political correspondent carl cameron is in charlotte where the g.o.p. is holding the first big conference since the election. good evening, carl. well, the plan to avoid political annihilation that wants to impose on them is the plan to come back from election defeat. they lost big with minorities. according to the blacks and asians, dominant theme here.
>> trying to connect with the voters. the biggest thing is how do we have the right message at the right tactic to connect in the long-term to the voters, and increase their involvement. >> rnc is doing a major autopsy on 2019 and issue a report in march. so far they have been brutally candid about their mistakes. particularly the failure to compete with digital campaign or old fashioned grassroots organization. >> the obama campaign learned from bush-cheney re-elect and put it on steroids. we have done a lot and look at what the campaign did. we grow as a party and get state parties engaged early.
early, meaning tomorrow. not just months before an election. >> tomorrow, reince priebus is expected to be re-elected to another term as the g.o.p. national chairman. i talked to him this afternoon and he is about to go on the warpath internally in the party to try to effect changes. tonight, bobby jindal is expected to address the group and fox g.o.p.'s ears and say washington is broken and time for the republican party to get its act together. like yesterday, bret. >> bret: we'll check in tomorrow. thanks. a bit later, the latest attempt to get high capacity fire arms off the streets. just ahead -- why some people are scratching their heads over the president's comments about entitlements. [ kimi ] atti d i had always called oregon home. until i got a job in the big apple. becoming a fulltime indoor cat wasn't easy for atti. but he had purina cat chow indoor. he absolutely loved it. and i knew he was getting everything he needed to stay healthy indoors. and after a couple of weeks, i knew we were finally home!
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>> bret: almost 6 million people are out of work in spain as they endure the second recession in three years. greg palkot reports that spain joins greece trying to revive an economy on life support. >> new year for spain. but is there is little for the lively european country to celebrate. unemployment is over 26%, the worst since the '70s. joblessness among young people is over 55%. spaniards, under 25, have little hope. >> it's 2012 was a bad year, you can imagine the prospects that spaniards have. nothing. at the end, we all have to leave, just like our parents did to immigrate. >> strange recession worsened too. economic growth down last year. budget cuts and tax hikes to avoid a full-scale bail-out accord og the efforts are hurting short-term recovery. with backing from the european central bank might offer long-term hope.
bond sales to write down spain's debt went well. >> we are getting indicators that it's slowly adjusting. start to turn in the coming quarter. >> greece might be building on a couple of years of austerit austerity. the country is qualifying for e.u. bail-out money. 2013 is bringing more protests. young and old in athens. unemployment in greece is higher than spain. and pensions are slinking. >> we are rapidly going backwards. far backwards. the only battle is the battle on the street. >> greece is trying to keep a lid on things. mass transit strike in the second week. officials say they will jail workers if they don't go back on the job. greeks are tired. this is a hassle but what can we do? >> this is watched by the u.s. wall street buffeted by the european trouble. washington planning austerity moves and taxes and all are hoping what has happened in
europe isn't a preview of years to come. bret? >> bret: greg palkot in london. thanks. you have heard the talk is cheap. the promises are not. concerns entitlements and how to pay for them. jim angle says the president didn't shed light on that earlier in week. >> treated like innellis. he had several issues in inaugural address but one in particular stuck out to some. comment about entitlement. s. >> the commitment we make to each other, through medicare and social security, and they don't sap initiative. they strengthen us. >> if the programs don't go under. analysts puzzled by mr. obama's remarks because he makes it sound as if someone opposes medicare and social security. >> it was sort of a strawman argument. i don't know who wants to
scrap medicare, social security and medicaid. >> republican leaders were puzzled that the president didn't address what every member of congress knows to be true. >> if we don't work together to strengthen our entitlement programs they will go interrupt. >> automatic cuts will be forced on seniors who are already receiving benefits. rendering worthless the promises they built the retirement around. >> ironically, the president's course essentially to ignore the problem, is the course that will semily endanger the programs -- essentially danger the programs rather than protect them. >> in long-term the programs turn trillions more in benefit than nation can pay for. one part of social security disability trust fund is in worst shape. it can't pay benefit in 2016 when mr. obama is still in office. given rhetoric and posture, it's clear he won't do anything about it.
>> the trust fund getting worse. the number of applications doubled in the last ten years to more than $2.8 mall year in 2012. unlike previous president, mr. obama has done nothing to fix finances. >> president clinton talked about mend it, don't end it. to judge by the president's remark there is nothing that needs mending. >> the president did take steps to make it easier for people to apply for disability. he has done nothing to help them pay bigger bills. in three year mrs. obama will face a problem he has made worse. >> medicare is in federal law to pay $100 million in medical services for prison inmates and illegal immigrants. they recommend a better system to automatically flag such charges and stop illegal payments before they are made.
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>> bret: fresh pickings of the political grapevine. coverage of two videos tells us a lot about the media inconsistency. first, the ads from the national rifle association and the center for reproductive rights. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? why is he skeptical putting armed security in schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school? >> hey, baby. did you think i forgot? i didn't forget. how could i forget our university anniversaranniversar? >> bret: the coverage was skewed. nra ad was referenceed 188 times in major newspapers and 162 times on tv shows. the crr baby video appeared on four shows, all of them on this network. the media research center tells fox, "the center for
reproductive rights may consider abortion a knee-slapping jokes but americans aren't laughing. neither are the 55 million babies who have been murdered." the lack of media coverage of the despicable ad is inexcusable." here is the case where it's worth taking a second look at the numbers before you cite another report. al-jazeera noted an ox-pham study that noted the 100 richest billionaires of 2012 would end poverty four times over. they did so uncritically. without noting the numbers don't ad up. global issues.org says nearly half the world, 3 billion people, lives on less than $2.50 day. if you took oxfam at its word like al-jazeera did it would take a quarter of the $240 billion or $60 billion to end world poverty and that works out the $20 per person. the trouble is, that
represents just eight days of living at the current $2.50 a day rate. finally, the number of federal employees today is nearly equal to the population of the u.s. in 1776. white house dossier.com notes the current civilian federal workforce excluding civil federal workforce excluding postal workers, was 2 2.150 million. the census bureau estimates the population of 1776 was 2.5 million. george washington had only 1,000 federal workers total. while president obama has added 200,000 in four years. there were a lot of numbers in this grapevine. a top democratic senator says she is going after the supply element. in the supply and demand equation. for so-called assault weapons. correspondent shannon bream is here to tell us what that means. good evening. >> hello, bret. senator dianne feinstein
acknowledges it will be an uphill battle but here is what she is fighting for. the new measure would ban the sale, manufacturer, transfer and importation of 157 specific guns. along with a broader group of other guns that would mean a new lower threshold for classifying as an assault weapon there. would be numerous bans on high-capacity magazines and beefed up checks on transfer and sale of all weapons. backers say it does nothing to chip away at the legitimate second amendment rights. there we have tried to recognize the right of a citizen to legally possess a weapon. no weapon is taken from anyone. the purpose is to dry up the supply of these weapons over time. therefore, there is no sunset on this bill. >> a number of participants said repeatedly if the measure were law the children in the newtown massacre would likely
still be alive. gun rights advocates disagree noting just about every action the shooter took leading up to and including that day was already illegal. spokesman for the national rifle association says this -- , "it's disappointing but not surprising she is once again focused on curtailing the constitution instead of prosecuting criminals or fixing our broken mental health system. we are competent confidence will reject senator feinstein's wrong-headed approach." a number of senate democrats long-time gun right supporters including joe manchin and mark begich are not ready to support a new assault weapons ban. bret? >> bret: thank you. the top lawmakers in the senate struck a deal over new filibuster rules. agreement will reduce the number of times they can use the delaying tactic on less and impose some time limits. some democrats want to require senators to filibuster in person. that is not part of the deal. does having women in combat roles make good military sense? we talk it over with the fox
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♪ ♪ general dempsey andry pleased to announce that we are eliminating the direct ground combat exclusion rule for women. we are moving forward with a plan to eliminate all unnecessary gender-based barriers to service. >> women in direct infantry combat roles are less likely to survive and less likely to help others survive. >> you shouldn't make gross generalizations and say no women can do something and all men can. >> bret: well, it was official today with secretary panetta and chairman of the joint chiefs making the announcement. what about this? bring in the panel. judge andrew napolitano, and
kirsten powers columnist for the daily beast. and columnist charles krauthammer. your thoughts. >> i'm going first. what secretary panetta said was right. which is not that every woman can do this. but every woman shall have an opportunity to do it. if they are capable of doing it, they should be able to do it. the standard shouldn't be lowered or put anybody in danger. for the few women, let's face it, probably few women who will have the same qualifications that are needed. they shouldn't be denied the opportunity. >> bret: judge? >> i am thrilled by this. this is a collectivist president deciding that people should be judgeed by individuals and not as members of groups. this is someone willing to say the old military bridge disagainst blacks, gay and women, stereotypical and not founded in facts, often founded in ignorance and bias in prejudice are now history. each person in the military
will be judged for combat and for leadership and command based on their skills and ability, not on the basis of some group to a member at the consequence of birth. it say it as someone who rarely agrees with the guys as you know. this is a great decision and i hope it works. >> bret: marines such as ryan smith who you heard in jennifer griffin's peace, retired sergeant who served in iraq. think differently. they think it puts lives at risk. >> it's very true that there is a difference of strength between men and women. for example, my first sergeant was mortally wounded when we were in iraq and he was in the amphibious assault vehicle. two men had to jump up and physically pull him out of the tourete to get him to a medivac. 6'5", 250-pound man. i haven't seen ra woman yet to
be able to pull that man out of the amphibious assault vehicle to get him to medivac. >> bret: so when you hear that? >> isn't that a gross generalization. wouldn't somebody in proximity of battle, and the type of equipment that he is talking about, in close quarters not be there unless they are capable to do everybody reasonably expected of them. >> bret: charles? >> there is equities in good faith arguments on both sides. obviously in the preside, women in military welcome this. they want the opportunity. second, when you open up anything that party has been shut out of, you increase the pool of talent from which you can draw. the argument on the other side is that there is a reason why we have professional men's
basketball, and the separately we have women's basketball. there is a reason why in the olympics you have a men's decathlon and women's. the men's boxing and the women's. the men's weight lifting because if the women were to compete with the men they would not have a chance. we are not wearing chain mail and wielding battle axes but there is still an element of strength and endurance that is required. the way to deal with this, is ultimately to say you will allow those few women who can lead the stan -- meet the standard that the men do but you shouldn't lower standards. that will produce a smaller number of women than men. that is a as a result on the fact on height, weight, strength and endurance the
women's bell curve is to the left of the men's. so as long as you don't lower it and have the numbers will look more equal. it's a good idea. >> bret: people like hamlin from brookings who had concerns in november. saying as you mentioned, there are just small numbers of women who had expressed wishes to be in the front lines. that perhaps training to get them in special forces, to get them in those positions would be the way to go piecemeal at first. now, going to see how this works out. the military service chiefs have until may 15 to tell the defense secretary what jobs will be excluded. >> look, i mean, israel does this. they have women, i mean they have to. they have to be in the military. and they actually passed something in 2000 saying that men and women -- not like women can't be barred from anything that men are allowed
to do. they have a very effective military. what they do is they don't put people in to combat situations they aren't qualified for. or strong enough for. i think as long as they, as judge was saying, don't do a collectivist approach to this and do it individually it will be effective. >> bret: next up, the foreign policy challenges ahead for the next secretary of state. there are a lot of them. in america tay we're running out of a vital resource we need to compete on the global stage. what we need are people prepared for the careers of our new economy. by 2025 we could have 20 million jobs without enough college graduates to fill them. that's why at devry university, we're teaming up with companies like cisco to help make sure everyone is ready with the know-how we need for a new tomorrow. [ male announcer ] make sure america's ready. make sure you're ready. at devry.edu/knowhow. ♪
there seems to be a strong impetus that we realize the present policy is not succeeding. and to look at other options to prevent what is going on now for 2 months and 60 -- 22 months and 60,000 dead. i think you would agree with me, whatever judgment you make, they have to pass a test whether or not you do them, they will make things better. >> john kerry in friendly territory today likely to be secretary kerry. expected to have the votes needed for confirmation. syria talked about iran getting closer to nuclear weapon. north korea saber rattling with another nuclear test. threatening a missile that can reach the u.s. you have destabilization.
really throughout the middle east. egypt a question mark. north africa with al-qaeda. question marks about afghanistan. pakistan increasing the nuclear capability. it seems a more dangerous world than when secretary clinton took office. >> if john kerry was here and heard your summary he might have second thoughts about taking the job. yes, endless stream of problems. i don't know the people personally, but my understanding of the president he is a micro manager, not a delegator. george bush genuinely delegat delegated to the secretary of state. this president is micro manager even with hillary clinton. whatever john kerry does or says it's because that is what he knows or he believes that barack obama wants. personification of america minus the military force. in other countrys. in some respects insurgents
are worse than assad. we know it from egypt and libya. what can we do without the military to back him up? there is a limited ability he can -- for what he can do. extend the president's will with diplomats. it doesn't matter who the secretary of state is. because they will say what barack obama wants him to say. >> bret: to the point, white house has taken control of the policy in the white house. how much power does the secretary of defense or secretary of state have in this? >> very little. it's incon consequencial who it is. he chose somebody who is going to be somebody who executes the policy. john kerry has wanted to do this for a long time. now he will. he will execute whatever barack obama tells him to do. i don't think he is bringing anything new to the table, how to deal with syria or how to
deal with north africa or any of other issues. there are serious concerns about john kerry not completely understanding the nature of assad for example. but i don't know that is really going to change anything with the administration policy. >> i want to play a sound bite from yesterday that we didn't focus on. hillary clinton about weapons. >> so, this pandora's box if you will of weapons, coming out of these countries in the middle east and north africa is the source of one of our biggest threats. there is no doubt that the algerian terrorist had weapons from libya. there is no doubt that the malian remnants of aqium have weapons from libya. >> bret: this is the first time publicly we heard the secretary of state say the weapons from libya are in the hands of aqium, al-qaeda in the islamic magrab. in algeria, in mali, from
libya. a lot of these weapons are from us. the u.s. we gave to libya. the question that senator rand paul asked was were we moving weapons to syria through turkey and other places. but the secretary of state was taking about libya, weapons from libya now in the hands of al-qaeda there. i mean, that is a huge deal, the fact that al-qaeda is exploding in that area, charles. >> and the irony is that it isn't only the weapons that came out of libya, it's the fighters. the lead element, the lead jihadist element in mali, the one that is most extreme, you know, the cutting off of hands, under the shariah law they imposed in mali were a contingent of the foreigners that quaforeignersthat gaddafi t his wars. when gaddafi went down they fled.
that is a result unintended in the war of libya. i don't think the administration thought it would happen but now that it has happens and the french stepped in to do something about it, we are standing back and the administration doesn't have a policy. it doesn't know which way to go. it took weeks before they could provide listics for the french. but it has no idea what to do in the places. it denied to go back to the other hearing that there was terror involvement or a way to cover it up and pretend it didn't happen in north africa is an indication how much they have had their head in the sand and how much they lived off the killing of bin laden as a way to tell themselves that the war on terror was
over. >> bret: judge, i remember defense secretary rumsfeld saying he didn't mention the word "afghanistan" pre9/11. north africa didn't come up with secretary clinton. mali didn't come up. something tells me, we could deal with this for a long time. >> to follow up on charles, what she said, the clip you ran, revealed gross failures on her part and the part of this administration to allow libya to fall, while the weapons were still there. >> bret: that is it for the panel. but stay tuned for glimpse of the newest high-tech gadgets.
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