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>> as president obama arrives in connecticut tonight to continue his push for gun control, his aids are back pedaling on a key part of the pitch. the now debunk claim of 40% of gun sales coming without background checks is being massaged. >> a substantial number of purchases of weapons are achieved without background checks. different from two weeks ago when the president appeared at the white house from families new town and other tragedies. >> why wouldn't we want to close the loophole that allows as many as 30% of all gun sales to take place without a background checks. >> gives the president three pinocchios from that since it comes from two decades old study. the details are in important because with the senate coming back today after two week recess that proposal has quickly become the president's last hope of any dramatic action which is why senate democratic leader harry reid immediately went on offense. charging republicans are
hiding behind a filibuster. >> many senate republicans seem afraid to even engage in this debate. shame on them. >> on "fox news sunday," a key spokesman for the national rifle association. expressed some responsibility for background checks at gun shows. ace shah hutchinson including that more armed guards should be in school charges the president's focus has been off. >> whether it's mental health concerns that we can do better on or whether it is providing more safety for our children in schools, very little has been done and so i'm disappointed in the president has not focused the debate on the right issue for america. >> when he announced 23 executive actions in january, the president also vowed he would press congress beyond just guns. >> congress should fund research into the effects that violent video games have on young minds. >> white house officials insisted today they are not protecting hollywood or anyone else. >> why does it appear that you are not pushing
congress on violent video games and violent movies and mental health. this is a problem that single piece of legislation will not resolve and gun law alone will not resolve there are many aspects to this problem. >> yet most of the president's focus has been on guns. in fact, tonight he is flying home 11 family members of newtown victims from c washington on air force one to lobby congress tomorrow. mostly of course, about gun control. bret? >> bret: that will be compelling testimony surely. ed, gun control legislation obviously is not the only hot button issue up on capitol hill this week. also, up there immigration reform. what's the latest on that front? >> huge week for immigration reform as well, bret. there is going to be major rally. they are promising tens of thousands of supporters of immigration reform here in washington on wednesday. the timing is critical because they are trying to put pressure on the senate as they come back into session. one key democrat in that gang of 8 working on this said they may have a bill on the floor as early as this week. a key republican lindsey graham says maybe two or
three weeks. the bottom line is white house aides tell me they are very encouraged that progress is being made and the president wants to get this done by the middle of the summer. the reason, he realized if that doesn't happen, is he going to become more and more of a lame duck and he will never get this done, brit. >> bret: ed henry on the north lawn. thank you. the stocks gained 48 today. s&p up 10 the nasdaq finished ahead 18. a defense department saddled with billions in cost-cutting is rolling the dice on a new weapon that could end up being cheaper and some day deadlier than current alternatives. national security correspondent jennifer griffin has the story tonight from the pentagon. >> for the first time, the pentagon plans to deploy a weapon niced laser on board a navy ship. this new weapon is slated to be operational off the coast of iran early next year. video released by the u.s. navy shows the laser locked on to a slow moving target. in this case an unmanned drone. the drone soon catches fire and crashes into the sea
below. it, quote: praise much like a blow torch with an unlimited magazine according to one pentagon official. >> for the first time we're going to demonstrate that lasers can take out operational aircraft. now, albeit they are slow drones. they are not fast movers. >> the laser will be capable of owe blitz rating these small boats and unnamed drones with blast of energy. it will be mounted to the fan tail of the uss ponte and sent out to the fifth fleet region in the persian gulf where iran operates small surveillance drones and is known for swarming and harassing u.s. navy ships with small armored speed boats. one of its major advantages is its relatively low cost to operate. after an initial investment of $32 million. >> around this directed energy that comes out of this laser is a little under a dollar. a little under 1 u.s. dollar. that's effectiveness and that's affordability. >> compare that to a tomahawk missile which cost
the taxpayer $1 million each time it is fired. when the air force tried to mount a laser on the tip of an airplane, those lasers cost nearly $1.5 billion apiece. the pentagon cancelled this costly airborne laser program two years ago. u.s. navy officials are concerned that the new laser technology won't work in poor weather conditions and for now it's not clear the ship mounted laser can bring down faster moving threats such as incoming fighter jets or missiles. >> the navy says its ship mounted laser is 12 for 12 in the testing phase. destroying target each time. the next test will be on the high seas, bret? >> jennifer griffin at the pentagon. after weeks of bombastic threats about going nuclear leaders are taking a different approach. up set about joint south korean military exercises. today the economically strapped north severed one of its only reliable economic lifelines to the
much wealthier south. reporter david piper has details from seoul. >> the south korean government says its neighbor to the north continues to keep tensions high here by doing something dramatic almost every day in order to capture the world's attention. today's headline grabbing move pulling its 50,000 workers out of a joint industrial plant with the south. >> as south korea and the united states insult the country's dignity and make the industrial zone a starting point of war, the complex will be halted from now on. >> north korea had already barred south korean workers from entering the zone when which is based just across the border. the industrial complex also had the last direct communication link between the two -- after pyongyang cut the emergency hotlines with the south recently. the move will cost the north though. it it collected $80 million a year in worker salaries from the factory. a valuable source of foreign currency for the isolated regime. there was also confusion today over north korea's
next move. south korea's unification minister announced he believed pyongyang was planning another nuclear test. he quickly backtracked and said he misspoke. south korea's defense ministry tried to ease concerns. >> now we can see activities at the nuclear test site with some movements of people in vehicles. but we believe this is a daily activity. there are no signs of an imminent nuclear test there. >> still, government officials in south korea believe pyongyang is preparing to at least test a missile if only to keep the tension up in the region. its tracked the movement of two medium range missiles to north korea's east coast. and believes a test could take place as early as wednesday. the same deadline north korea gave foreign embassies in its capital to evacuate their staff. america's asian allies japan and south korea are making the necessary preparations for possible missile launch. both have sent warships to sea to monitor any tests and have the capability to shoot something down if it
enters their territory. the international community remains extremely concerned this crisis could still spin out of control. >> the cannot go on like this way, confronting and challenging the order of the secretary council. >> and russian president vladimir putin warned today a nuclear war here would make the chernobyl disaster look like a fairy tale, bret? >> bret: david pipener seoul, south korea. david, thank you. at least 15 people died today in damascus, syria when a suicide bomber detonated a car in a busy residential and financial district. at least 53 were hurt in syria and syria's prime minister said it was a rebel response to recent gains by the army. the rebels blame the government. it comes as u.n. inspectors wait for permission to go to syria to investigate claims by both sides of chemical's weapons use. at least two people were killed and 89 injured in fighting between egyptian
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>> bret: there is little debate that margaret thatcher transformed great britain. whether it was for the better or worse, was up for fresh debate tonight. britain's so-called iron lady died this morning of a stroke and the world weighed in. she was 87. here is chief washington correspondent james rosen. >> she has the eyes of kaligua but the mouth of marilyn monroe. for more than a decade
margaret thatcher the world stage a polarizing figure whose three terms downing street made her the longest serving prim year of the 21st century. >> she just didn't lead our country she saved our country. i believe she goal down as the greatest peace time prime minister. >> born margaret roberts in 1925, thatcher later said her father's grocery gave her the ideal mental outlook to reconstruct an economy by state socialism. married to dennis thatcher and mother of twins by 1970 mrs. thatcher was the conservative party's education minister. five years after that its leader acutely aware of the glass ceiling she was cracking. >> i stand before you tonight in my red chief upon chief upon evening gown. >> by may of 1979 after the u.k.'s sagging economy and spirits gave rise to warcht
discontent thatcher was elected first and only female prime minister. >> where there is discourse, may we bring harmony. where there is error may we bring truth. where there is doubt may we bring faith. where there is is despair may we bring hope. >> dubbed the iron lady by the soviets. thatcher dispatched her majesty's warships to reclaim the falkland iltsdz. she miguel gorbachev someone she could do business and forged relationship with ronald reagan. faced down the coal miner's your union. >> what we have got is an attempt to substitute the rule of the mob for the rule of law there. be. [shouting] >> whose members on strike for a year returned to work be a sent any concessions. thatcher's imposition of a so-called poll tax triggered severe rioting
and revolt among the ranks that ended from her departure in 10 downing in november of 1990. in later years her public speaking was limited by a series of strokes like the one that eventually claimed her life. even in silence, thatcher's mere visit, those eyes conveyed her enduring wit and strength. bare necessary margaret thatcher was 87. in washington james rosen, fox news. >> bret: senior political analyst brit hume covered presidents who dealt with thatcher. he joins us tonight with some thoughts. good evening brit. >> good evening, bret. she is recognized for the stead fastness that made her known as the iron lady. she showed that in her years of grin prime ministership and doubts arose about the conservative economic policies she had administered in strong doses to the ailing british economy. she never wavered. and she showed it again in waging war against argentina over possession of the falkland islands.
what is less widely acknowledged is that margaret thatcher was very smart and her policies were precisely what britain needed to revive a nation that was regarded then as the proverbial sick man of europe. under her, private business flourished anew in britain and london reclaimed its lost place as a center of world finance. though an unrelenting faux of socialism, thatcher quickly saw soviet leader gorbachev as something new. i like gorbachev and as you added we could do business together that influenced ronald reagan and sis successor george w. bush to whom she was also a trusted advisor. hungry for leadership thatch everywhere stands as person force and will can accomplish. she is that because she was strong. but equally because she was right. bret? >> bret: personal reflections seeing her? >> i particularly remember she had a meeting in april about this time in 1990 with then president george
bush. that was prior to the first gulf war where she would play an important advisory role but it was about europe and nato and those issues that that whole package of issues. and it was the summit sunday was held on a very windy, warm, humid day. and the leaders came out to meet the press. outdoors. and president bush's hair was blowing all over. everybody's hair was blown all over the place. mrs. thatcher's hair was rock solid. it didn't look like it was covered with gloss of nil kind. it was motionless. i was standing by marlin water bush's press secretary and her press secretary and i turned and said "what is she using on her hair?" it was a brief pause and ingham said it's thompson water seal. [ laughter ] well that will stick with you. >> well, it was sort of symptomatic of her. she never wavered. >> bret: brit, as always, thank you. >> you bet. >> brit: what are your thoughts on thatcher's
passing. you can let me know on twitter. former vice president dick cheney will be on tonight's "on the record" are greta van susteren to talk about margaret thatcher. can you see that 10:00 p.m. eastern time. still ahead, why many democrats hate president obama's budget proposal. first, a special call for a special probe into the benghazi terror attack. [ male announcer ] in your lifetime, you will lose 3 sets of keys 4 cell phones 7 socks and 6 weeks of sleep but one thing you don't want to lose is any more teeth.
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is there. >> bret: making world headlines the remains of a dip killed saturday in afghanistan are being felony to dover air force base in delaware. ann died in a suicide bombing as she was delivering textbooks to school children in afghanistan. she was 25 years old. there was a new push tonight for a special investigation into last september's terror attack
in benghazi, libya. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge tells us the people making the call are carrying considerable weighted. >> thanks. the letter first obtained by fox news is signed by 700 special operations vets with a political action committee known as special operation speaks. the group is best known for hard line stance against leaks related to the lead killing usama bin laden. today the group's founder explained why benghazi still matters. >> this has been slow world as we say in the air force. if we wait long enough, maybe it will go away. but we owe the truth to the american people and particularly the families of the fallen. >> the letter includes 16 points of investigation from the documented warns before the attack to the realtime decision-making of president obama, secretary clinton and the defense department on the night of september 11th. the letter reads in part, quote: america has always held to the notion that no
american will be left behind and every effort will be made to respond when u.s. personnel are threatened. given our background, we are concerned that this sent a very negative message to future military and diplomatic personnel. the mother of it specialist sean smith who worked for the state department and killed at the consulate back special committee because she says the families are still in the dark. >> why is my son dead when they were supposedly watching all of this in realtime? my son is dead. then ours later the seelsz got it. i don't understand why the government is doing that to its people. >> in spawbs to the letter, a senior house republican aid said, quote: our committees are investigating benghazi and they will hold the white house and the administration accountability for its actions. speaker boehner has not publicly back add select committee setting a joint report from the house intelligence. government oversight and foreign affairs committee expected later this spring and with sequestration lawmakers are cutting staffers and select committee would require its own new budget, bret.
>> bret: okay. we will follow it, catherine, thank you. >> you are welcome. >> the judge in the case of usama bin laden's son-in-law finds it stunning that federal budget whos could delay the start of this trial. abu ghaith is charged with conspiring to kill americans in his alleged role as bin laden's top prop begannist. he has pleaded not guilty. public defender are being furloughed so he needs more time to prepare. two florida republican lawmakers want to know why beyonce and jadz were allowed to go to cuba. they celebrated their fifth wedding an anniversary in havana last week. the treasury department has been asked the type of license the couple received. u.s. citizens are not allowed to travel to cuba for tourism. next on "the grapevine," dogs on steroids and politicians on -- plus colorado lawmakers are not buying the mantra if you are on the doll you shouldn't be on the poll.
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indian forces opposition leader says anyone who threatens his country has no business being president. curse or not, maduro is leading in the polls. the supporters predict a last-minute opposition surge before venezuelans head to the polls sunday. from the poles to another kind of poll, it is still illegal for colorado welfare recipients to withdraw their monthly benefits at strip clubs. late last week the state house in colorado killed a bill to close the so-called strip club loophole. allowing debit cards to withdraw cash from atm's inside strip clubs, the cards cannot be used at atm's inside casinos, liquor stores, bingo parlors or gun stores. "the denver post" argues one democratic in some poorer communities it may have the only atm to
welfare recipients. finally a new pet owner in argentina got quite a shock when he took his two new toy poodles to the vet and found out they weren't dogs at all. the daily mail reports they were fer rets on steroids. he reportedly paid a breeder $150 each for the animals. purebred toy poodles like the one on the left can fetch up to $1,000. ferrets known as brazilian rats are far less expensive. one of president obama's harshest republican critics who is throwing at least tepid support behind the president's new budget but while south korea's lindsey graham has some nice things to say there is outrage in the president's own political background. chief national correspondent jim angle tells us why. >> depending on who you ask, president obama has either finally agreed to address entitlements or committed a monumental political mistake. >> really bad policy and bad politically for the democratic party.
so, we're sending the message that democrats had better not vote for this. >> what the president is doing is shifting the inflation adjustments from federal praments programs from broad measurable of consumer price index to a more narrow one called the chained cpi. >> this is a camouflage operation designed to easily -- they think it's going to be easy to cut government expenditures across the board and they hope people won't notice. >> supporters say the chained cpi is based on simple premise that people buy different things depending on the price. >> when the cost of one good goes up by a lot. we shift into another good. if apple becomes more expensive, we will buy a couple more bananas, so the chained cpi is more accurate measure of inflation. >> the change would only reduce the future increase in benefits by only 2.5% a year. over 10 years it would lower the deficit by $339 billion. that's because the change in the cpi wouldn't just be for social security but rather all federal programs adjusted for inflation
including federal pensions and tax brackets. >> that's how you get the tax increases. that's how you get the social security impacts but you also get the other pension impacts. >> it would increase taxes by pushing people into higher tax brackets sooner than the current measure of inflation. would the administration says social security will be kept within the program. though some question how. but the-to-liberal groups it hardly matters. >> it's almost taking a whack out of social security as a way of symbolizing our ability to do something. >> for deficit hawks, however, entitlement reform has a long way to go. >> this is $340 billion over 10 years. we'll spend 10 trillion on social security. 8 trillion on medicare. 6 trillion on medicaid. so we are not in the ballpark of the kinds of changes need to really fix these programs. >> well, the trustees tell us every year the program is unsustainable. you need to make changes now so that you you can phase them in gradually.
>> the cpi shift would start saving money in social security which by law can only pay out what it takes in. in 2033 it will have to reduce benefits 25% across the board. the system's actuary say even the cpi change would only move that back two years. bret? >> bret: jim, thank you. virgin america tops the list of best u.s. airlines in the annual quality ratings released today. united airlines fell two spots from the previous report to finish last of the 14 major carriers. the report is based on government data of on-time arrivals. mishandled bags, consumer complaints, and denied seats due to overbooking. the president goes to connecticut where 26 died in the sandy hook shooting to talk gun control. we will get reaction from the fox all-stars when we come back be a nice surprise. meet the 5-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max come.
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>> some folks back in washington are already floating the idea that they may use political stunts to prevent votes on any of these reforms think about that. [shouting] >> they are not voting no on almost all ideas that americans support. they are saying they will do everything they can to prevent any votes on these provisions. they are saying your opinion doesn't matter. and that's not right. >> bret: president obama earlier this hour in connecticut talking to it a group there, including so. families of the sandy hook victims, some of them he will fly back to washington to lobby congress to move forward on gun control issues. the question is how much
talked about background checks. >> even if you had all of your universal background check, bad guys are going to get guns and it's not going to solve the problem in the schools. it's not going to diminish the need for greater security in the schools. talking about nra report school safety. with that bring in our panel steve hayes senior writer for "the weekly standard." and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer and marah liasson. mara, the president is pushing this weekend dan pfeiffer says what he wants to sign is a strong bipartisan bill with enforceable background checks. he just went through a litany of things that he has talked about on the stump here tonight in connecticut. what he wants now is the background checks. >> enforceable. he didn't say universal. there is universal background checks which is where the president started and now there is something, i guess you could call it, more robust or improved background checks which i think is all he has the
chance of getting if anything the question is will he get anything at all. number two will the strong enough that he can say honestly and credibly it's a victory? >> steve. the president in his speech just now, he listed all of these other things. the only thing he spent time on was the background check. he had this long list and he went back and developed, dilated a bit on the background check. that's clear that's where they are putting all their arguments right now. the other thing that struck me listening to his speech. he was complaining yet again about how this was going to be different. this was going to change and now people in washington are keeping the country from changing. i think the president bears a great deal of blame for not making this a different kind of argument. you remember, after newtown, there was all sorts of discussion about how we were going to have a broad debate about mental health and new measures potentially there. the president was going to potentially challenge hollywood. all of these other things. and instead what he chose
to do was go back to sort of stale old off-the-shelf gun control policies that i think he had no know weren't likely to have much beyond the support they already had. >> charles? >> i agree. i don't think he is going to get anything on. controlling the sale of assault weapons. quote, unquote or restricting the size of magazines. that's completely dead. he isn't even speaking of the kind of background checks he was earlier now they are sort of minimizing it. and if they get anything it, it will exclude the personal or the family transactions and probably will exclude any kind of record keeping that is permanent. they will try to spin it as a victory. it will be meaningless. i agree with steve. this is a real missed opportunity. the fact is that handgun homicides are down by half
since 1980. most of those people who do it are not mentally ill. the spasms of the mass killings are almost always by people who are mentally disturbed. so the variable here is the mental disturbance. we even had evidence that the aurora shooter. the psychiatrist, the university psychiatrist of the aurora shooter had reported to the campus police that he had home seidel thoughts -- homicidal thoughts. that's a variable that has a chance of changing things. not the guns. this is reflective whenever you hear of a shooting it's about the guns. if it's about the guns why have we had a reduction in the ordinary homicides by half over the last 30 years? >> bret: there was a change in something the president has been saying and the white house has been saying about these loopholes. take a listen to this.
>> why wouldn't we want to make it more difficult for a dangerous person to get his or her hand on a gun? why wouldn't we want to close the loophole that allows as many as 40% of all gun purchases to take place without a background check? why wouldn't we do that? >> is the white house pulling back from using that? do you have any regrets in making the case that this is a bow gus stat? >> a substantial number of purchases of weapons are achieved without background check. that's a fact. everybody who has worked on this issue. republicans and democrats alike understand that. >> bret: the "the washington post" gave the president three pinocchios from the 40% stat because it comes from three decade old studies 1994. >> it's too bad that he used outdated statistic because people i have talked to say good background checks actually would do more to prevent gun violence than banning the ammunition clips or assault weapons. believe it or not, out of those three things, even though the background
checks has the most likelihood of passing. i think the president undercut his own argument. >> i think they have been using sort of shady statistics on in any number of ways. one of the things he said in the speech again and again and again was citing this 90% of public favors background checks comes out of this begin pack poll. what it doesn't say or mention is that a majority of americans think that background checks and other measures could lead to conification. it's a lot more nuances than the president would have you believe when he cites this one data point and doesn't cite anything else. you look at a new cnn poll out today 45% of americans approve of the way that the president has handled this issue. gun control and 52% disapprove of the way the president has handled this issue. i don't think republicans at this point are feeling a lot of heat to move on this. to move in the president's direction. >> bret: all right. so how does this go down? >> i have no idea. >> bret: i know, does it move forward and even get a
vote? >> mitch mcconnell is joining this filibuster. that's a significant move. it looks like it's going to have widespread support among republicans in the senate with maybe just a couple defectors. >> bret: despite the political pressure of sandy hook families and all that the white house is going to try to do this week and -- >> it just shows that you national public opinion is not what matters to individual members. what matters is the people who elect them or their bases if they are worried about a primary. i do think the president's argument that this should have vote as john mccain said over the weekend vote no if you want to. what are we afraid of. what is bad letting these things come up for a vote so the republicans can vote against them. the filibuster vote is not a strong argument for republicans. >> it's a tactical mistake mccain is right. allow a vote. the most that will happen is a really unimportant change in one of the laws on background checks. and if you want to be seen as standing in the way of that, i think that's a mistake. you won the debate.
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where there is discourse may we bring harmony. where there is error may we bring truth. where there is doubt may we bring faith. and where there is despair may we bring hope. >> march -- margaret ended our first meeting by telling me "we must stand together." and that's exactly what we have done. >> bret: margaret thatcher, prime minister of great britain. friend of ronald reagan and friend of the u.s. dead
today at the age of 87 from a stroke. her live and legacy. we are back with the panel. charles? >> i think she has a two line epitaph. she single-handedly saved her country from socialism. together with just a few others, including reagan, she helped to bury communism forever which we don't remember was for a century predominant ideology in the world. at home she was amazing. she faced down the union that even her party had given up. she undid the scler rot bureaucracy that she had inherited by selling off all the things that labor had nationalized. selling them off in a way council housing stakeholders, ordinary citizens stakeholders in the firms that she had denationalized. and stake their own homes. and lastly, she sort of
changed the country that had imagined that its decline in sclerosis were the result of history, you know, exhaustion by the end of the two world wars and not policy. in that way she, like reagan, changed the ideological trajectory of her country and we learned how true that was. when successor in labor upheld all of her principles and policies. >> britain's only female prime minister. she had -- she was, mara, a character. she had some great phrases. >> she had some great phrases. >> bret: iconic. let me call up another one here where she addressed folks. take a listen to this. >> for those waiting with baited breath for that favor of media cat sprays the -- i have only one thing to say you turn if you want to. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> the lady is not for
turning. >> that is a real classic. i had never heard that one before. that is incredible. she was a character. she was absolutely made of steel and that was, you know, 90% of her success. what people forget is she was a partner with ronald reagan. she was also an inspiration him. you really have to think how much of the reagan revolution is owed to margaret thatcher. she came in before him. she already had her us tussles with the reagan before took on air traffic controllers. real inspiration to him. most important single people forget how important it is to have another world leader to bolster them to stand up like they are and give them extra support. >> right. sometimes it was kind of very obvious like saying to george h.w. bush don't go would wobbly on us, bush. for reagan she was a real partner. as much as the conservative movement in the united states, you know, idolizes
ronald reagan they owe just as much to margaret thatcher. >> she establishment in the party. just as ronald reagan had in 1976, the establishment of the republican party. i think that's a major part of her enduring legacy. she spoke with a clarity and conviction that we just don't see in most politicians today. even in most world leaders. and at a time when, you know, some conventional business wisdom here in washington and also elsewhere places such value on compromise. it's such a virtue. she, i think, reminds us it's not always good to compromise. in fact it's often good not to compromise on behalf of your principles to stand firm on the things you believe in most. and one of the interesting things as we see the euro crisis playing out over in europe to remember is that she fought that tooth and nail and if you go back and look at her books, she was prophetic in predicting what would happen with the common currency. she said germany is is
going to be left holding the bag and the poor countries are all going to need bailouts. she was very wise on all of those kind of matters. >> bret: here is what house speaker john boehner said today, stared down at elite bosses and communists to win three elections. established conservative principles in western europe and bring down the iron curtain there was no secret to her values, hard work and personal responsibility and no nonsense at all in her personal leadership. i heard a number of people today say the republican party today needs a margaret thatcher. >> well, i think every country at every time could use somebody as principled and smart and strong as she is. i think what we don't quite remember in the gazay recollections today is how dessurprised she was. how widely dessurprised at home and to some extent here among the left. i mean, she angered everybody in her country from the communist union
leaders to the upper class twits in her own party. which isn't easy to do. but she had tremendous strength and courage. when the falklands were invaded she immediately declared she would go to war and undo it. she had no idea how. the brits were totally unprepared. she knew that it would take almost a month for the ships to arrive. so she had a month to actually work out how to do it. they sent everything that was afloat out into the south atlantic and when they arrived had a plan. and they succeeded. but it was a dicey proposition at the beginning. and it was a moment that turned around her image at home and abroad. >> all right. margaret thatcher. 87. that's it for the panel. stay tuned as we reveal some new problems that the government is facing.
>> bret: finally tonight, we have been following a serious story, updating here on "special report." the department of veterans affairs is being scrutinized for its lack of efficiency, processing claims with some veterans seeing average wait time of almost a year to get benefits. well, another show is following that story as well. apparently the v.a. has a new potentially hazardous problem to deal with. the inefficiency of paper files is only one aspect to it. but it turns out there is another much more immediate problem. >> the v.a. still relies primarily on paper documents. at its center in winston-salem, north carolina, the tens of thousands of claims threaten to collapse an entire floor of the building. [ laughter ] >> is that the v.a. or an episode of hoarders?