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>> tomorrow we have got lots more news. >> we have new york giants star, we have joe namath, and a football player nicknamed the black widow. >> see you tomorrow. >> stunning new details revealed in the irs scandal. we are being given new evidence. the target is not only more widespread but requests from high level officials. the white house always said -- and a stamped signature by the woman who headed the legislation. she invoked the fifth when she said she did nothing wrong. a lawsuit filed against the irs today and the chief attorney has given us some of the documents. we have had a look at those.
attorney general eric holder facing a simple question, did he lie to congress about his role in targeting a fox news reporter and the other scandals shaking up washington. plenty to go through today. you're live in america's newsroom. >> and good morning to you. and an investigation into whether mr. holder lied about the larger topic under oath. after he had this to say specifically to weeks ago today. watch this. >> with regard to the potential prosecution of the press for the disclosure of material, that is not something that i have ever been involved of.
>> how do you evaluate this based on what we know at the moment? >> what eric holder said under oath was not true. he has been involved with it and he certainly should have known about the potential prosecution of reporters. it's plain as day. you have got his signature and we know he was involved in the discussions. he basically admitted to it. what his actions have shown us. >> any possible explanations? he lied or forgot? >> i don't know that eric holder has earned much of a benefit of the doubt here. somebody who has got a history of this. whatever suspension of disbelief people would have been willing to give him, is unlikely to be given him this time around.
he said the following, for attorney general eric holder, the gravity of the situation didn't fully sink in until monday morning when he read the washington post story. he is beginning to feel a creeping sense of personal remorse. what does that mean? >> well, i'm not sure. i think that is sort of the real question here. . you have got eric holder around washington d.c. and talking to people on capital hill to try to save his job and to suggest that whatever might have happened in the past he didn't really mean it. he was not as involved as he might have been. i think that's going to be a difficult sell for any attorney general, given what we know and see.
>> we just rolled a clip during the hearing on may 15. that same day he gave an interview to npr and this is part of that interview. >> i'm not sure how many of those cases that i have actually signed off on. i know i have refused to sign a few, pushed a few back for modifications. >> i'm curious. does that advance the story for you at all? >> look, i mean, i think that raises real questions. how many of these did eric holder actually sign off on? why doesn't he know what the routine that eric holder didn't have anyway to recall how many times he had done something like that. i would like to know more about them. i think there is a lot more scrutiny to be applied. james rosen was fox's lead story on the so-called white house war
on fox. applied to james and the investigation. >> thank you. leading our coverage here, thank you. >> just a big down some of this. >> the attorney general under president george w. bush says there is no way that we would have allowed that subpoena to go forward back in the bush administration, according to him. another former justice official says that warrant would have gone through multiple levels of scrutiny. watch this. >> you had to get signed off from public affairs office that i headed up. you had to sign off on the criminal division.
at each point you are always asking a lot of questions. >> at this point, there is a 30 day review of his own department and there are procedures that led to this so we have a lot more coming up on this question of whether or not. and also a major announcement from congress woman michelle bachmann. this will be her last term in congress. why is she deciding that she will not run again, peter? >> martha, it's not for a fear of the upcoming election. but in a pre-recorded
announcement, the congress woman from the sixth district of minnesota said that four terms in the house is enough. >> the law limits anyone from serving as president for the united states for more than eight years and in my opinion, eight years is also long enough for an individual to serve as a representative for a specific congressional district. be assured, my decision was not in anyway influenced by any concerns about my being re-elected to congress. >> she considered stepping down after running for president. she was the leader in 2011, even winning the iowa straw poll in maine. . >> peter, all these questions, obviously, are raised. she says that she is not concerned about reelection. she also has said that she is not concerned with recent investigations into her campaign
finances, right? >> right. she says that is not why. her campaign for making secret payments to a state senator in iowa who worked for the presidential campaign but she says she required all campaign staff to follow all the rules and doesn't have any reason to believe anyone broke the law. there is a group called house majority pack helping democrats take back the house. they say her retirement is good news and list her extreme right-wing views as reasons for that. >> all right. thank you very much, peter. >> congress woman bachmann was an early leader in the tea party movement. you remember that. the congress woman organized the first house tea party caucus meeting in 2012, ten congress
members lost re-election. >> a little sun shower did not slow down pope francis. the 76-year-old pope braving the elements out there without an umbrella. he zoomed around in the open air pope mobile, kissing babies. an aide ran out with paper towels so he could dry off. he has been a very active and talking a lot about a lot of interesting things. going after the mafia yesterday in italy. interesting to watch. >> i think he enjoys the job. >> i think he is enjoying the job, too. >> you can see it on his face. >> we are just getting started this morning. we have a new round of tornados
hammering the heartland. look at this. >> i am on north 130, just west of the highway. >> that has got to be very nerve wracking for folks given what happened in moore. that was the scene in kansas. nobody was hurt. forecasters are warning that we will get more of this this week. >> a mother of seven behind bars in mexico accused of trying to smuggle drugs into america. >> and a full investigation into whether attorney general lied when he testified before congress. >> that was lame. even you -- can't see everything?
the blisters were oozing, and painful to touch. i spent 23 years as a deputy united states marshal and i've been pretty well banged up but the worst pain i've expernced was when i had shingles. when i went to the clinic, the nurse told me that it was a result of having had chickenpox. i wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
customers. it will have a far-reaching impact. the problem is starbucks keeps going to plastic. there is no change left over to drop in a bucket. so they are losing out on that. martha: are you going to say to the folks making the coffee, this is for you obviously. common, assistant manager. really? if that isn't bad enough, we have more violent weather and a lot of it was caught in kansas. take a look. bill: that is amazing. >> that is a tornado and a half. >> oh, man, you will be able to put that on youtube and everything else. martha: look at that. that was one of four that touched down in kansas. there were reports of tornado in
several states. it isn't just tornado causing problems. garrett was in chicago. how was it there? >> reporter: we saw a lot of rain in chicago. first off the tornadoes hitting kansas, throughout much of the midwest we have seen tornadoes, strong winds and heavy rainfall and flooding. in central and north kansas they have seen four tornadoes. in the central part of the state it was sayingsair -- it was star 90 minutes. not moving. two businesses and 25 homes were hit. the good news, no reports of fatality or serious injuries there. like you said, it's not just the tornadoes. it's the rain and flooding.
here in chicago we had 1-2 inches of rain within a single hour that caused flash flooding across many parts of the city. there were 9,000 homes without power in chicago alone. 21,000 a the state of illinois. the winds and rains briefly knocked out power. didn't cause any disruption to the ground operations. in much of that's weather is expected to stay throughout today and the coming days as well. mar * that will major it tough to get -- that will make it tough to get around in the windy city today. storm chaser reid timmer is back with us this week with a look at what's going on in kansas. bill: a great guy and a good talker and he knows what he's talking about. cruise ship passengers panicked by fire in the middle of the
night. we'll talk to a woman who woke up to screams and was told to put on a life vest. martha: there is brand-new evidence that allegedly ties the targeting of conservative groups to a top irs official. our next official has breaking news saying the irs targeting went on much longer than we were told by jay carney. >> why did you mislead congress and the american people on this. >> mr. chairman, i did not mislead congress or the american people. i answered the questions as they were asked. care written by people just like you. with angie's list, i know who to call, and i know the results will be fantastic. angie's list -- reviews you can trust.
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martha: new evidence this morning that shows the irs targeting of conservative groups is more pervasive and widespread than the obama administration has claimed. 25 of these groups filed a lawsuit against the irs and attorneys representing them say the abuse of power went a lot higher up than the white house first claimed. first, the white house said this was a few rogue officials. just two people in the cincinnati office, it was regrettable. now we are getting an indication it's happening in far more places across the country. this one is in el monte, california. there were other letters sent from across the country.
the white house claimed this last week the targeting ended last year. really? here is jay carney on that. >> the misconduct stopped in may of 2012. so despite all the media interest in our april 2013 awareness, it's important to remember the misconduct stopped almost a year earlier. martha: look at the date on this letter. it shows one group was targeted and some might say harassed with a ploft questions about their status after they were left hang for a long time. this is may 6. just weeks ago. the white house claims this is just low-level officials. but these document show it did go higher up. dozen of letters. look at the signature on that, loisg. lerner. director of exempt organizations.
it's lois lerner's signature on this letter. she doesn't have to go to work but she is still getting paid. she took the fifth but she did manage to squeeze in this opening statement. >> i have not done anything wrong. i have not broken any laws. i have not violated any irs rules or regulations. martha: that remains to be seen. jay sekulow is representing five groups who filed suit. obviously there is a lot in here. we showed a couple of these letters. but the headline is a couple things. that the abuse was widespread. it wasn't just the cincinnati office. there is a lot of other postmarks on these letters. and it's on going. it's still going on as recently as a few weeks ago. >> correct. this is a letter from
washington, d.c., the united states department of the treasury internal revenue service from a tax lawyer. this wasn't a low-level agent. this is a tax lawyer at treasury at the irs in washington, d.c. here is the lawsuit it's a significant one about an inch thick representing 25 individual organizations. some of them tea party groups, some of them just conservative groups that got caught up in this dragnet of the irs. this is emreally broad based and the time line and narrative the white house put forward does not hold to the truth. i don't know what the department of the treasury or irs. i don't know what the white house is thinking. but we have the document. we have been in dialogue with the irs for a year and a half. martha: let me ask you about the document you just held up. who does this go up to?
was there any directive from the administration to say, look, we don't want these groups in our face. we want you to do what you can to stall them to keep them so we don't have to confront these groups. that's the larger assumption people are making. is there anything in that document that would prove that? >> i don't think you can prove it go to the president. what the documentation does show which is significant is it was not low-level irs agents. this was pervasive it was at the highest levels of the irs and we now know treasury, the deputy secretary of the treasury, the white house council and chief of staff were aware of the situation. and let's not forget it was democratic senators and president obama who made consistent statement about the tea party groups and
conservative groups and we had the senate sending letters to the irs saying, investigate these groups. now they are shocked and appalled. when they asked for it. the lois lerner signatures, the meetings between lois lerner, white house council and the chief of staff about how to get ahead of the inspector general's report blows the narrative for the white house. martha: we know they were aware of the inspector general's report and the word is they didn't tell the president. but the document you have from the treasury department, what's the nature of that? is it just questioning one of these tea party groups or does it have to do with the ig reports? >> this is worse. it's another letter from the irs. from a lawyer at irs internal revenue service saying to our client, i cannot tell you when this is going to be approved
because i have reviewed this file and it is now being reviewed by my superiors. well, she is a tax lawyer with the irs and it's being reviewed by a group over her in washington, d.c. so the narrative that the white house put out is not factually correct. the letters speak for themselves. martha: i want to go back to lois lerner. we all watched her when she said she did nothing wrong. we have letters stamped with her name. so she could say i didn't know what that was. my stamp goes off on a million of these document. i had nothing to do with that. >> yeah. except she also said the practice of the intrusive letters stopped in 2011. but this letter is from march and april of 2012. so she could say she didn't
authorize it, but the fact of the matter is not on one letter, not two two letters. we have 15 with lois lerner's signature on it. they kept on changing the criteria which made the situation worse, not better. it's unfortunate will be tragic at the organization -- the internal revenue service is institutionally incapable of execute. do you know what else we got this week? a compliance letter for a 01c4 tax exempt organization that has been recognized. they got randomly last week a compliance audit to go online and fill out own 8-page questionnaire with unbelievably intrusive questions in the middle of all of this. the irs is doing compliance checks. this is harassment. it's absurd and that's why we are in federal court. martha: the questions are enough
to make you throw in the towel and i forget, and that may be the goal. i want too point out something you have in your document. in many cases they sort of would say, those questions that we asked you to fill out, just skip those. we have a new group of questions for you. delay, delay, delay. in some cases what they weren't doing was as powerful as what necessity were doing. they were sitting on their hands and not allowing any of these groups top move forward and basically trying to wear them out it would appear. >> exactly. we had sometimes 6 months where we would be sending letter to the treasury and irs asking for a response, telling them, here is the file document. nothing, not a return call, not a return letter. they sat on it for 6 months. when they would call you back they would say it's being reviewed by higher ups. so what we have got to do is take the depositions of the agents and the tax exempt
specialist.and we'll get to the bottom of it. but it's taken a filing in federal court to do this. a number of our clients got worn out just from the process because it went on so long. it's serious and we filed a serious lawsuit. martha: you don't have to wait for d.c. to work this out. you can move forward and hold the irs accountable in the court system and that's what you are doing. we look forward to keeping up. bill: we have breaking news. central and southeastern michigan and look at your screen. tornado destroying neighborhoods and homes on the ground. it's a big pattern setting up across the middle section of the country. i'll let you know what's happening with maria in a matter of moment. martha: we are learn being new subpoenas also coming forth in the benghazi situation. claims that the state department
is withholding e-mails regarding the terror attacks that killed four americans that night. bill: an american mother of 7 sitting in a jail in mexico accused of smuggling 12 pounds in marijuana. she is back in court today. >> i want her to come home. she is innocent. [ male announcer ] running out of steam? ♪ now you can give yourself a kick in the rear!
bill: what they want is the behind the scenes discussion. >> absolutely. bill: this wasn't the night of the attack. it was the day after that? >> it covers a period what they are asking for now. an important thing is some of these conversations may not be an e-mail traffic. anybody today knows if you write an e-mail at some point it may be used against you. and they may have done a lot of this by phone call. secure phone and there may be no e-mail trail. bill: you can't nail that down then. it could have been a telephone conversation or face-to-face
conversation. >> absolutely. this is just the first step. the administration has not been forthcoming on this. it raises the question about whether you can believe anything they say. if they are not truthful about this -- this is the narrative the administration was trying to push forward about their job on counter-terrorism. so i think they should just let everything go unless they are hiding something. >> we'll see how that goes. this is what darrell issa writes in part. there were reservations about publicly acknowledging any involvement of islamic extremists three days later. it was at the heart of the committee's ongoing investigation. you work in the cia. why is that question so important? >> we are talking about
transparency, we are talking about politicizing national security issues. besides the fact it was in an election. the administration should have been forthright with the american people. i don't believe they were. but this is what congress is trying to get at. it's about how our government operates whether you are talking about the executive or legislative branch or jew digs l branch. and we still have many questions. bill: martha has more on this. martha: what do they hope to find. bill: imagine you are woke in the middle of the night and you see this and you are told there is a fire on your cruise ship. that happened to hundreds of passengers at sea.
bill: new video on the ground, the american flag tbloght breeze southeast of flint, michigan. a tornado went through there. you will see the camera go a bit wired. it looks okay initially when you see this. the first home is still standing. but look how random a storm like this can be when you see the path of a twister literally thread the needle between two homes and take out that home in the middle. that's what they are wake up to this morning. martha: passengers are safe and on dry land. but look at this terrifying
ordeal. a fire broke out in the middle of the night and forces everybody out of their rooms. the cruise line canceled the rest of the cruise. my next guest didn't even have time to put her shoes on before she ran out of her room. i'll better glad to be home. >> i'm glad to be in the united states. i'm in fort lauderdale. i'm not in baltimore yet. martha: you were sleeping and the ship was at sea, then what happened? >> there was a bang at our cabin door. at first i thought it was kids running down the hall, the second banging came on the door and my second roommate had on go to your muster statement.
we opened the door and a crew member told us to put our life jackets on and run to our muster station. martha: you ran down to a place where people were meeting. how did they get you off the ship? >> we stood on the decks at our muster station while they were lowering the life boats and we waited for four hours. we never were evacuated into our life boats. martha: when you get a look at this fire, it's a football field long and goes across several decks of this ship. what weren't through your mind? you sent us several of these pictures yourself? >> i thought i was a goner. i was making phone calls saying my good-byes and i was very scared. martha: what about what they are saying now, they will refund your trip and they say they will give you a discount on another
cruise. is this in your future vacation plans? too yes, ma'am. they are giving us a free crews. refund all our money. the royal caribbean was great, the crew was great. they greeted us in fort lauderdale. they spent 50 members of the royal caribbean staff to assist us. they have been wonderful. i hope you have a great time and it's uneventful. take care. bill: there is a train carrying chemicals. it derails. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, like me,
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"fire eric holder." top lawyer doesn't have credibility to investigate anyone, let alone himself. and here is what was what was told to gretta last night. >> i think the president ought to fire him to restore faith in the justice department. congress is entitled to answers. the only answer we have gotten is the administration wants to have a press shield law. if it's like the press shield law like they proposed in the last congress, this would not have covered the rosen or a.p. incident. who's fooling who? >> reporter: there is plenty scepticism about that media shield law the president is hoping to get passed quickly. martha: it's in terms what they
can do to not have this happen in the future. >> reporter: the president directed the attorney general to conduct a look at justice department policies regarding leak investigation. that can give them the opportunity to explain for fully what happened in the ap and james rosen cases to reassure everybody. but the attorney general is reaching out to numerous media organizations to say let's get together and talk this over. but with all the growing calls for him to be fired from the right and the left increasingly. it remains to be seen if these actions will be enough. the president says holder has his support. bill: another high-profile government official under fire is lois lerner. she is in charge of the tax ement organizations at the irs.
now there are document that show the targeting may have gone further than we originally thought. >> she said the practice of the intrusive letters stopped in 2011 and these letters with her name on it are from march and april of 2012. she can say she didn't authorize it. but her name is not on one letter, it's not on two letters. we have 15 with lois lerner's signature on it. bill: lerner is still getting a paycheck while on administrative leave. what do you think about lois lerner still getting paycheck? follow us on twitter. lines open. martha: we want to get to this. violent tornado are ripping through america' heartland. brand-new video of a funnel cloud that touched down in kansas.
forecasters warn we could see more of this throughout the day today. listen to the way this woman describes the moment that it hit. >> we had the five kids in the basement in the shower. we stood there taking pictures for a little bit. my husband was taping and he said get down there now. we had a blanket over our head and it hit and it was as loud as they say the is. martha: you can see how it leveled part of a home leaving just a concrete slab. the one next door still standing. here we go again, maria. >> reporter: may is the most active time of the year in terms of tornadic activity. it's very active so far during the move may. we saw 18 tornado yesterday. 100 reports of severe weather. it's not just tornado, but also damaging winds and large hail
that in themselves can cause damage. today's setup will be very dangerous. we have a large area that could be looking at severe weather anywhere from texas up into parts of minnesota and wisconsin. there is a slight chance for severe storm as well in parts of the northeast. in the northeast we are talking mostly damaging winds, large hail threat. across kansas and oklahoma and parts of texas, we are looking at a moderate risk. we could be looking at supercell thunderstorms developing later this afternoon and knowledge. these are the type of storm that could produce the longer track tornadoes. the ef3 and ef4 and possibly ef5 strength. oklahoma city you are under that moderate risk:'. remember were moore, oklahoma, when had that ef-5 move through that area. that area again under a moderate risk.
so have a way to get those warnings. more severe storms up into seconds of minnesota and north dakota. by friday the storm system is such a slow mover. because the storm continues to impact similar areas the ground saturated, flooding a big con southern. we already had flooding in iowa. bill: one of the state, kansas, one of the hardest hit areas. four tornadoes said to be touching down there. winds up to 150 miles an hour. look at the size much that storm there on the horizon. last week when home was so hard hit we spokerm chaser reid timer. reid, good morning to you. where are you today and what did you see yesterday? >> i just got back an hour ago. we were chasing those tornadoes in kansas.
they were very large tornadoes about a mile wide. about the widest i have seen. basically it just missed a town. it would have been a devastating situation. it's very very violent. there are dozens of these hail bails that are just loss. they are thrown for miles. it hit a couple farm structures, but thankfully nobody was injured. it was a very strong tornado. bill: what is an f-5, that would have matched moore, oklahoma in terms of strength and size. today what are you seeing, reed? >> they are widespread. the main tornado was a mile wide.
today it's over a larger area. the low-level sheer values are changing wind speed and direction with height. when that happens, that usually spells long track strong tornadoes. right here in oklahoma, the e if-5, it missed our house by a couple miles. bill: this season started so slowly. there must be a reason why it picked up so deadly the past 10 days. what changed? >> early on the upper-level troughs. there was a snow pack in the northern plain and it has a strong of that undercut all the supercells. so the storms were present and they were strong. and now we are back in that
pattern again. it has to do with the pacific ocean and the cold horseshoe present there. it stemmed originally and the warm pool of water right up side that horseshoe in the north pacific encouraged the ridge in the pacific and and trough in the western u.s. that's why we have had that persistent trough in the western u.s. and the tornado outbreak. bill: we are going to chart that out and give our viewers an idea of what's change out there. thank you for your time. reed timer. oklahoma. martha: the number two man from the pakistani taliban killed by a drone strike. we are told that he as you
eventually supposed to take over for the leader of the pakistani taliban. the region where he was killed is in the afghan border region. a well-known terrorist stronghold area. that's the latest out of there. bill: trying to get to the bottom of benghazi. the state department is issuing new subpoenas in their investigation. south carolina republican trey gowdy has been outspoken. he will join us live in a moment. plus there is this. >> oh, my god. oh ... martha: that was a train carrying chemicals. it derailed and explode. the growing northeast federal investigation into that. bill: a 10-year-old girl will die unless she gets a lung transplants.
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>> am i asking too much that the top prosecutor in the country not mislead congress? if you take what he said and then contrast that with what he did, and what the department did, he's either so absent from the job that he has no idea what is going on, or there would be a more nefarious explanation which we will get to the bottom of. martha: i want to move onto the
other topic that we wanted to talk to you about today. that is the subpoena of state department documents in the benghazi case. what are you after there and due think this time you're going to get it? your second question is wonderful. we've been after it for almost nine months now. we want all the emails related to the drafting of these false talking points. it's been almost nine months. we are still trying to figure out why susan rice was put on the sunday morning talk shows, why it wasn't secretary clinton, why they went from telling the truth on september the 12th that it was ansal-al-sharia to fabricating this myth about a video. chairman issa has asked repeatedly for the documents. i know the state department says they have given us reams and reams of paper, they can save the paper if they just give us what we are asking for. we don't want paper, we want the truth and facts on how the false
talking points were arrived at. martha: trey gowdy thank you very much, congressman from south carolina. we will see you next time. thank you, sir. >> yes, ma'am, thank you. bill: 20 minutes past now, investigators questioning what could have caused a train to derail and then do this. flames raging for hours, where it happened and there is also new video now showing the horrific moment of impact. reporter: martha: we are learning more about the student who allegedly planned to blow up a school, the disturbing new details about what he had in his house. >> we are not scared as a school of the whole thing, we're shocked that it happened here at west albany, you know, i never would have imagined anything like this happening.
martha: it was a remarkable moment as yesterday's boston red sox game. one of the marathon bombing victims who has become a symbol of hope in boston through out the first pitch. he lost both of his legs in the attack and later helped to identify one of the suspects. he was wheeled out to the pitcher's mound by the man who helped to save his life. [cheering] [applause] martha: where does that smile, that spirit, that enthusiasm, that unbelievable will of strength come from in this young man. the red sox said it was the first time since the attack that the two men could be honored together. he called it an experience that he will hold onto forever. what an amazing story, the eople of boston
and of those who were injured has been. it's incredible. bill: for jeff and his family and so many others, they will need that community and that strength that boston bro sraoeudz. martha provides. martha: nice tribute for them to do. bill: a fiery scene outside of baltimore when a freight train derails colliding with a commercial garbage truck, this is what happened. woe. the impact sending a huge plume of smoke from the flaming wreckage. david lee miller has a bit more. it was bad but it seems like it could have been a lot worst. good morning. >> reporter: it could have been a great deal worse, bill. incredibly no one was killed. it could have been deadly. authorities say the only serious injury was to the driver of that garbage truck that collided with the train in rose dale, maryland. the 45-car train opted by csx was carrying mixed freight during the incident. 15 of the train cars derailed,
at least two cars containing chemicals caught fired and exploded. the scene was captured by a amatuer video. the smoke was not toxic and there were no mandatory evacuations. the fire that burned for more than 8 hours is now out. they had to cool the cars with water before suffocating the fire with foam. >> incidents where you have trains and chemicals, and those types of things, you have to really sit down and look at all the different perspectives, when you start mixing chemicals that shouldn't be mixed together, the chemicals get mixed with water, with soil, anything can cause a reaction. bill: one of th >> reporter: one of the cars contained sodium clear rate.
bill: what wassed this. do we know yet? >> reporter: it's still under investigation. they have investigators on the scene. they are saying the truck crossed the railroad traction at a 90-degree angle. apparently there was no mechanism in place to warn of an oncoming train. >> the crossing where the accident occurred was a private grade crossing. it had a stop sign there, but it had no signals, no bells, or no lights. >> reporter: investigators should know more about the crash after they examine data that will reveal the train's speed and a video recorded by a camera mounted on the front of the locomotive. they will actually have a head on shot presumably showing this horrific collision. is that that would be some evidence for them too. david lee miller, thank you.
martha: wildfires have been threatening homes again in southern california, a live report about conditions that crews are fighting there on the ground, look at that. bill: also a major player in that i.r.s. scandal is still getting paid. what do you think about that? >> even today she is not at the office and she will not cooperate with that investigation. >> because i'm asserting my right not to testify i know that some people will assume that i've done something wrong. i have not. one of the basic functions of the fifth amendment is to protect innocent individuals and that is the protection i'm invoking today.
martha: fox news alert now crews getting ahead of a massive wildfire neasanta barbara thanks to a lull in the winds overnight. the flames are about 65% contained. a new fire is causing proems out there in the samerea. it jumped two highwaysorcing adam housley is live in loses. angeles. adam what is the latest? >> reporter: we expected this fire season to be a busy one because the winter was so dry in california. basically fire season is year round now. what we've seen in the last couple of days is it doesn't even take severely hot temperatures to cause fires like this. the winds are the only things
driving the fire and of course the dry fuel. you're seeing santa barbara where the good news is this fire is pretty much out. 65% contained in california basically means they have a fantastic handle on it. we have several other fes 0 that have broken out in differen different locations. those have been pretty much contained as well. the winds are coming back again tonight. there are severe weather warnings this week where temperatures are expected to get into triple-digits. if you have the triple-digits temperatures and the winds the fires become bigger. there is a fire in valencia, california. near magic mountain off to your left. people are very concerned about what may be coming as this week moves along, because of the winds, and because of temperatures that are gradually get morgu more severe. martha: thanks very much. we'll keep and eye on it. thanks, adam. bill: there are new allegations today that the i.r.s. targeting
of conservative groups went well beyond what previously was thought. earlier we talked with the attorney representing 25 of those groups who says he has proof the practice continued right up until earlier this month. letters with a stamped signature from loislerner. she get on changing the criteria which made the situation worse not better. i think it's unfortunate and tragic that the organization, the internal revenue service is now institutional lee incapable of executing. bill: jay secule earlier. i'm quoting now, her paychecks are hush money, lerner's uninterrupd compensation reminds her she can keep paying her bills as long as she is a good soldier and keeps her mouth shut. td murdoch with me. hush money, strong words, back
it up. >> as long as she is at home probably relaxing in bed right now, not having to come to the office and work like the rest of us she is making 1 of a hundre $177,000 a year. four times an american's salary. that is a pretty good deal. as long as she doesn't tell us and answer all the questions i think in a sense this money helps her stay very quiet. bill: you write this. learner will keep receiving her annual salary of $177,000. learner makes more than quadruple the typical earner's pay without lifti a finger and only in america. >> only in america. people went back to work yesterday and yesterday was the first day of the rest of lois learners vacation. she gets to stay home with pay, not lift a finger, and, again, i think what she needs to do is
come forward. first of all i think that the law says that she's got to be paid administratively. bill: she has legal protection. >> correct. nothing says that the secretary of the treasury can't call her up and say you did a terrible job you nee to quit. ment white house cheech of staff should call and say you did a terrible job you need to quit and if that doesn't work the president should exhe shall eyes leadership and say we can't have you on the payroll you need to go. bill: her attorneys, obviously, does she pay them or somebody else? >> i get the sense we pay. i believe that we should do. i should check that for certain. i believe someone still on staff a feder employee i imagine she is getting covered with legal expenses. bill: there are a number of questions in your column, the higher ups instruct learner to hammer. did learner talk about this with anyone at the white house, what did the president know, when did he know the it.
jay secula was on talking about the 25 groups he represents. he has proof and paperwork that shows it went higher up. how high? >> higher up than h. at the minimum we know that certain people in the treasury council knew about this. the white house counsel knew when this and apparently we are told didn't tell the preside of united states for about two or three weeks. know knows in that is trao you otrue or not. we found out that this was not something done by a rogue office and workers. we have lois lerner letters. bill: the cincinnati office handled all the tax exempt tpaoeulgts fo filings for the whole country. >> that's right. bill: if you wanted -d to get your organization on the list and get tax exempt status you had to go through insurance cincinnati. >> there were letters foreign ministering from el monte, laguna niguel, these were coming
from multiple ofpsess of the i.r.s. bill: low is hrao*erpbe low lois learner has the summer off and it's nice work if you can get it. >> only in america. bill: thank y. martha: ts is quite a story. there are new developments on the baby boy in china whose rescue grabbed international attention yesterday. adoption offers are now pouring in. look at this little boy. i know it's hard to look at because he was he ca extracted from a pipe. but there are now many people who want to give this beautiful little child, look at how well he looks now, being cared for in the hospital, he was trapped in a sewage pipe, had been abandoned by his mother. that's basically the story there. doctors say that despite bruising he is doing okay, and strangers have also donated baby clothes and formula and other gifts to the hospital where this little guy is being treated, and we hope that he will be given a wonderful, loving home.
he has got big cheeks and he's 5 found and despite the horrific circumstances that he was put through he seems to beoing well in the hospital and he seems to be full of life. bill: you think about all the crazy stories -- martha: i know, right? bill: we come across every week just sitting here and then you come across that. he's going to be okay. good for him. martha: he's going to be okay. god bless him and whoever adopts him. bill: right on. yes. martha: wrel done. bill: disturbing new details in a terrifying ploo blow up a school in one state. wait until you hear what police found inside the suspect's home. martha: a ten-year-old is clinging to life in desperate need of a lung transplant and she is being told that she can't have one. we'll speak to her mother about her fight to save her little girl. >> wear starting to face the fact that, you know, she may not make it, and we were sitting here nor weeks. >> we really haveotten to
he's 17-yearold, grant acord appeared in court yes by way of web cam. according to court documents t d had written plans to place bombs throughout the school. they found explosive devices hidden under hisroom floor at home. he is being held on $2 million bail. martha: a family of a dying ten-year-old girl is now fighting federal organ donor rus that are preventing they are dates from getting a lung transplant. she may the doctors say only have weeks to live at this point from cystic fibrosis. she can only receive a donor lung after all the adult candidates have first had a chance. janet is her mother and joins us now by skype. janet, could morning. explain this to us if you could
and thank you for being here. her number is 66 i terms of her ratiexplain how this works. >> okay. so patients over 12 are ranked on the severity of their illness. they put a lot o factors into it, and they are given what is called a lung allocation score. and the orgs are given out based on who is the sickist, it's basic triage medicine, the sickist patient is treated first. martha: if you're under 12 you're in a different category. >> if you're under 12 you are priority one or priority two and you are time accrued, so how long you've been waiting. now and you only have access to pediatric lungs which are only about 20 a year versus 2,000 adult lungs a year. martha: when you look at this situation you've got 1700 people waiting for a lung, 30 of them are under 12, and obviously, you
know, the organ donor association makes choices based on severity. i know that your little girl is very, vy sick. >> very sick. martha: and desperately needs this lung to live, right? >> yes, and, you know it's unreal to me that they are ng they can't kwan t quantify my daughter's illness when her daughters have told me we are in the final weeks that she will be intubated without a lung transplant. and intubatio is the end. we are very close to the end. martha: i know that you'd like kathleen sebelius and health and human services to help. what can they do, and how are you trying to reach them, and have you heard anything? >> well, our congressman has been amazing help and has reached out to them on our behalf. i sent a email to kathleen sullivan myself and haven't heard back yet. it is win the secretary's power
to override this dion. martha: i know is bee said that other countries do this in a different w, they don't separate children and adults, and i guess, you know, why do we separate children and adults? is it because anyone under 1 can't handle an adult lung in their body, that it wouldn't be successful? >> no, that is not true at all. the success rates are just as good. if you are under 12 you get wt is called a low bar transplant where they take 40% of an adult's lung and that 40% functions a an adult lung. the surgery is more complex, but the outcomes are jus as good. martha: how is your daughter doing? i know you're in the hospital right now, and is she -- how aware is she of any of this. janet? >> she is not aware of the debate over lungs. and that she isng treated unfairly. she is not aware of that part. she is aware that she is sick, that she is getting sicker, and she is worried that she's dying. martha: so when you -- oh, my
gosh i can't even imagine what you all have been through and you've been on this list for how long? >> for 18 months. we have been waiting for 18 months for lungs shaoefpl she has been priority one on the pediatric list for the entire 18 months. she has been number on one for her blood type and size for the past year. martha: in the beginning when you were told that did you feel hopeful, like, well, you know, we're going to get this. it's going to happen. >> i did. and i think that any parent on the listing thinks that this must be a fair and equitable list, so you don't really think that your child is going to be discriminated against. i have felt like we got on, we got on well in advance of -- as soon as she qualified for organ transplant we knew there would be a wait and we got on the list. we worked very, very hardo keep sarah healthy and we kept her healthy and stable for about a year through just enormous
effort and enormousork by the amazing doctors her at children's hospital, philadelphia and by my husband and i. and about a year in she just started to do a lot worse and they said, you know what we need to consider putting adult lungs in her and that she would fare just as well. d so we began listing her and we got an les score and it 't occur to my husband and i that she was competing in any difft w. as her score climbed weelt yes our child was getting sicker and that is terrifying and upsetting but there is a system in place and the sicker she gets the more kely she is toet lungs and that's right. martha: we live in so many ways by the childrenhall be first. in this case it doesn't seem to be the case. and janet -- >> the children are at the back of the line, and we needadam secretary to step in and say that is notight. martha: thank you for being with >> thank you.
martha: please give our best to yo little girl and we hope thy spreading your story it will get some attention for it. tell people what they c d if home.want to go something to >> they can go to change.org and support sarah and reach out to human services have and let her know that this isn't right, children are not being treated fairly, children do not belong at the back of the line. martha: jet thank you very much. >> thank you. martha: we wish you the best to you and your family. thanks for talking with us today. take care. bill: ten minutes before the hour. jon scott "happening now" rolls way shortly. how are you doing? jon: doing well. eric holder is on the hot seat as the questions persist, did the attorney general mislead congress when halked about the pursuit of journalists personal records? holder rea to speak in we will hear what he has to say and tk to judge napolitano t all of this. a new virus is causig alarm. it's called ahreat to the whole world. where eufrs it and what you need
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bill: president obama apparently proposing the sale of the tva, the tennessee valley authority, one of the biggest federally owned utility companies in the country with some of the lowest consumer rates available. why would republican lawmakers their that is a bad idea? john roberts live in atlanta to figure this one out. good morning. >> reporter: it was created back in 1933 by president roosevelt a way to bring economic development to apri appalachia. even though it hasn't received a dime of taxpayer money it has a
lot of debt. president obama would like to get it off the books. the problem is according to steve smith with the southern alliance for clean energy the utility might not be worth as much as its debt. here is what he told us. >> if president obama is looking for money for the federal treasury it's not clear that the assets will actually exceed the debt here and additional services will have to come back on the federal payroll as taxpayers burden. i don't believe this is actually going to work the way it's being proposed. >> reporter: not only that, bill but the tva looks after the tennessee watershed, sports fishing, native species that costs a hundred million dollars a year. the federal government would have to absorb that cost if it with are to sell. bill: the republicans, what is their arguments. >> reporter: some of the opponents of selling it are republicans like lamar alexander. he thinks it's a bad idea.
he excore kwraeut efl excoriated the president for even mentioning it. a junior senator from tennessee believes the tva is losing its competitive edge and needs to have some other form much management. we'll see if it sells. bill: thank you. martha: disturbing new revelations in the i.r.s. scandal today raising serious new questions about possible ties to the white house and its role in targeting political opponents when we come back. blah -
martha: a lot has happened. lots going on today. bill: now we got radio. martha: we do. we'll talk to brian kilmeade. which is one of the best parts of our wednesday. we'll see you back here tomorrow. how's that? listen in coming up. jenna: now a fox news alert. at any moment attorney general eric holder will be speaking at an awards ceremony being hosted by the justice department's office of inspector general. the timing somewhat awkward as mr. holder faces fire on several fronts including his personal involvement in seeking e-mail and telephone records of news reporters. the house judiciary committee is investigating to find out if mr. holder misled congress during sworn testimony when he claimed to have no knowledge about the potential prosecution of journalists. now while there has been no prosecution of any journalists by this administration we now know there have been