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bill: did i guess wrong? martha: we'll save it for tomorrow. bill: it's not a bear in the tree. martha: the surprise i brought for you. we'll save it for tomorrow. bill: hot dog, can't wait. martha: see you back here tomorrow. have a good day. jon: fox news alert, princeton university's campus has beenee evacuate waited following a bomb threat to multiple buildings on campus. this is just underway right now. the university is asking everyone to go home unless otherwise directed, and not return to campus for any reasons until advised. here is the official statement from that school in new jersey. there has been a bomb threat to multiple unspecified campus building, please evacuate the campus and all university offices immediately. go home unless otherwise directed by your supervisors, public safety officers and princeton police will direct drivers leaving the campus. those without cars will be directed to evacuation sites, you'll receive an update later today. do not return to campus for any
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reason until advised otherwise. we will keep you updated on that evacuation underway right now at princeton university. also right now brand-new stories and breaking news. jenna: the nsa leaker may have gone underground but the journalist who broke the story is speaking out saying he has more government surveillance secrets to spill. the latest on that. also the federal snooping program is putting a spotlight on the high-tech company that holds so much of your personal information, so when you head to google today should you feel lucky or paranoid? plus, the man accused of holding three women captive for years in his cleveland home heads back to court. what to expect at today's arraignment, what a case it will be. it's all "happening now." agreeing uproar over the secret, the top secret nsa surveillance program that is not so secret any more and apparently there
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are no more secrets to come. what is secret now? glad to have you with us on this tuesday, i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. the american at the center of the leak in hiding overseas as washington vows to bring him to justice . his name you probably know by now, edward snowden. he faces arrest and possible extradition to face charges if he can be found before a country grants him asylum. he's previously mentioned iceland as one possibility, now russia is also throwing its hat into the ring. a spokesman for president vladimir putin saying russia would consider giving snowden asylum if he were to ask for it. meanwhile guardian newspaper journalist glenn greenwald who already revealed many state secrets says more are on the way. revealing via twitter, no den has way, way more than just some slides. meanwhile the fbi is on the case searching snowden's home and pursuing interviews with anyone who knew him. his former employer, booth allen
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confirming he was fired yesterday for violating the firm's code of ethics. the guardian's greenwald says he's been working with snowden for february before he was hired by booze allen. that raises questions about his motives when he first took the job. john boehner calling snowden today a traitor. >> he's a traitor. the president outlined last week that these were important national security programs to help keep americans safe, and give us tools to fight the terrorist threat that we face. the disclosure of this information puts americans at risk, it shows our adversaries what our capabilities are, and it's a giant violation of the law. jon: meanwhile calls for a public debate might not go very far because the details remain top secret. nina easton is a senior editor
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and washington columnist for fortune magazine, also a fox news contributor. glenn greenwald says he has a lot more information that he's going to spill. they must be awfully nervous in washington at at the nsa right few about what else is yet to come. >> nervous for good reason, jon. i mean, you look back at 9/11 and the biggest national security threat then when it came to intelligence was the so-called siloing of information, the agencies didn't share information. now flash forward and the biggest national security threat are the self-styled modern-day martin luthers, so to speak thinking it's in somebody's interest to release information that probably will hurt our national security. so this guy snowden, i mean what is he, he's a community college drop out turned agency security guard. his career path was made because he was good at computers, and it, and to show -- he wasn't
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even old enough to drink when 9/11 happened april just to kind of look at his judgment he decides to go to the people's republic of china, hong kong is part of the people's republic of china where he can be very well picked up by the chinese regime which i'm sure they would love to do and they would like to find out what else he has. now we hear that russia is offering asylum. it's real -- you really have to question the motives of somebody like this. i know he says this is all idealism, but we are letting somebody like this. he's one of 135,000 people who have top secret security clearance, and only a couple dozen were supposed to have access to this nsa order. how did he get access to it? these are real questions to be raised and real concerns. jon: yes, and we also know that he apparently joined the army or tried to lasted only a few months, and then was discharged. also this. the fact that glenn greenwald
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himself the journalist at the guardian who broke the story says that he's been working with this guy since before he got the job at the national security agency. that suggests that he wasn't some idealist who suddenly went to -- you know took this job and suddenly was inundated with information that he found disturbing. it suggests that he took the job knowing that he already had the top secret classification, took the job nothing he'd be able to get access to some secrets that he could later spill. >> yeah, and he went to work for booze allen, specifically which is a contractor to nsa. jon: correct. >> we've had to since 9/11 we've been contracting out more of these services. the number of national -- top secret clearances on down, there is something like 1.2 million security clearances total in 135,000 of those are top secret, and another huge number are right below that, so there are
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tens of thousands of people with access to top secret information, and, yeah, this raises all sorts of questions about the vetting process for somebody that was in his position. how did he get access to this information? how did he get that job to get him access? he was in a remote office of the nsa in hawaii, and he somehow got access. that's scary, that means how many other people have access to our national security secrets that countries like china and russia would like to get their hands on. jon: let's talk about the political implications of all of this. and for that i want to focus your attention on a segment that ran in "politico," it came out last night, it's in today's edition of that online political magazine, that he says it is a reprieve for president obama who is taking hits in the press from democrats and even some republicans for running a program they cried is too reminiscent of the george w.
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bush-era, a new storyline that take the focus off obama even briefly. snowden may even draw some of the fire away from the obama administration's other scandals, especially the i.r.s. targeting of conservative groups. then there was this kind of a surprising sweet from the former bush spokesman ari fleischer, here is what he put up on twitter, he says, drone strikes, wiretaps, gitmo, o is carrying out bush's fourth term yet he attacked bush for violating the constitution. hashtag hypocrisy. it certainly has rattled washington but taken away the attention from some of these other scandals that have been rattling the white house. >> well it's complicated. on 0 one level it's taken attention away but in some ways it draws and kind of pre vert -rs thperverts the attention open the nsa thing, they lump it in with the i.r.s. scandals where they see the abuse of power by a federal agency.
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there is immediately concern when nsa is collecting phone numbers and phone calls. so, in that sense that is complicating the issue here. as far as president obama goes, yeah, it takes somewhat it takes the spotlight away and this is havis a very bi-partisan issue, release of our secrets, it's very bipartisan. you are saying top parties coming out and criticizing snowden. he's also losing people on his left. heres got a lot of kreut risk, civic libertarian, aclu types that are furious at this administration over this and he's definitely leaking support on that end. i truly believe if he was not president and not having to protect the american people he would be on the outside throwing rocks through the door and, you know, complaining about the nsa procedures. i have no doubt about that. jon: nina easton from fortune
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magazine. thank you. >> thank you. jenna: the epa is under fire right now by a group of bi-partisan senators who are taking the agency to task for releasing personal information about 80,000 farmers and ranchers, information like names and addresses and phone numbers. the epa admits it released this data in response to a freedom of information request from certain environmental tal groups. those groups apparently wanted to know more information about farmers to take a closer look at water pollution. since it happened the epa admitted it was wrong but the plan to prevent it from happening again is unclear and that's what the senators want to know more about. joining us now is south dakota senator john thune, chairman of the senate republican conference and has been asking the epa for answers since april. senator thune, in april we didn't have the i.r.s. story about a government agency that was looking at a specific group. that is the big question here, based on what you know do you think this is a mistake, and
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honest mistake made by an agency, a mistake that they admit or do you think that there is something more malicious going on? >> well, the way i look at this. jenna, and really you didn't have the i.r.s. when we initially got this information. this was back in april we got a tip that there were 80,000 farmer ranch families that had confidential information released to environmental groups by the epa. it appears that the epa is trying to help these left-wing groups, help their friends attack in this case their enemies, which are hard-working farm and ranch families 4. and the information that they put out there was under -- at the request it was a four-year request but they put out more personal information and they've admitted now that they did. the information is already out there, that is the problem. they've asked the organizations to give it back but by then the damage is already done. it's a pattern and it creates i think a serious credibility gap for this administration when they release this kind of information to these left-wing
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environmental groups. jenna: let's talk about the real life effect of this information being out as a south dakota senator you have hundreds of farmers and ranchers who had their information released. what have you heard from them? have they had strangers showing up at their property? have they been harassed in anyway? what is the real life effect of this information being released? >> they are extremely disturbed about it because these organizations like earth justice and national resource defense council are constantly attacking ranching and farming and agricultural operations in places like south dakota. the fact that they would know names, address, phone numbers, geographic coordinates. personal information, confidential information on these farm and ranch families is extremely troublesome to the farmers and ranchers who are trying to go about their business and make their living. it's something that they are -- we've heard a lot back from those in my state as well as from those in other states. jenna: do you have any evidence that this was a directive given somehow by anyone high up in the agency, or even higher up in
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government to release this information, more information than really what was necessary or ken requested? >> we are trying to get an answer to that. i sent a letter. they acknowledged that they did it and it was wrong but they haven't responded to the letter yet. we don't know exactly where it came from. all we know is this is a government agency again working it seems to be hand and glove with the left-wing organizes releasing confidential information that could be used to target hard-working farm and ranch families across this country. and again, it's typical i think based upon what we've seen with the i.r.s. and the release of confidential information to propublic louisiana ka which is a left-leaning organization. this is a pattern in this administration and it creates agreeing credibility gap with the american people. >> the epa gave us a statement i'm going to paraphrase it. they admit they were wrong. they asked for the information back and apparently received it from these groups but to your point you say once it's out
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there it's out there. how do you hold them accountable, senator? what is the next step here in preventing this from happening again? >> well, i've not heard a response back to my letter, jenna, but we've also followed up now a group of sevens as you mentioned earlier with a series of questions, why did they have to release the personal informy consult with department of ago culture which would seem to make a lot of sense. a series of questions to try and get some oversight, some accountability, some transparency with regard to this. and so far we have not heard back. so we are still awaiting an answer from the epa, again, it's hard to know exactly what was behind this. who was behind this but i think those are all things we need to find out. jenna: we'll take a closer look as well, senator and we look forward to having you back. foxnews.com has been on the story since it first broke and we look forward to again following it and looking for the evidence of that pattern and what exactly is next. we look forward to having you back. thank you so much. >> thanks, jenna. jon: a dispute in a luxury
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jon: fox news alert, take a look at live pictures from ktrk houston, and what we are seeing there is the debris left after a home explosion this morning in dobbin, texas. several people were taken to the hospital by life flight helicopters there. this all took place at a home along fm1486 in dobbin, texas. initial reports of a fire as well. we don't know whether firefighters have been there to put out this fire or if the home simply exploded and defendant some smoldering ruins. several people taken away by
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life flight helicopters, hospitalized. no word on their conditions. when you look at the debris field this had to have been a huge explosion. for anyone to have survived such a thing would be nothing sort of a miracle. we'll get you updated information as soon as we can. this is taking place on the north side of houston, a community called dobbin, text as. several people hospitalized after a home explosion. we'll get you more as soon as it comes in. jenna: the government's electronic snooping program is raising new questions about our most popular websites especially the role in u.s. surveillance programs. tens of millions of americans use high-tech companies to community and do research and every visit to one of those sites leaves some sort of record, a digital fingerprint if you will of all of our behavior. google reportedly holds the greatest amount of personal data, which may explain why the company faces some new scrutiny as well. doug mcelway is live in washington with more on this and how it relates to the snooping
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case and the nsa. >> reporter: we are seeing a lot of this forming in the debates now on capitol hill. republican senator rand paul believes that the nsa casting such a wide net in part through information it gets from google and other search engines is a gross violation of the founder's intention. the aclu is asking the court to explain how it okays these kind of searches. >> that's really troubling here. that's why we are asking the fisa court to release the opinions interpreting the authority because there are real questions about how the court is interpreting the language of the statute, which on its face is at odds with the way that the order evidently is treating some of those terms. >> reporter: even without the nsa's involvement critics say search engines, especially google are simply too powerful. >> google has assembled more information on more people, more interest math lee than any
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entity ever. and so the risk of the intimate, the intimate profile that they could assemble on each one of us is terrifying. because every individual, no matter how pure has a secret they don't want somebody to know. >> reporter: one google critic psychgist has conducted a series of experiments in which he found that search engines could change the outcome of elections by pushing up complementary links of a candidate and pushing down links that are critical of a candidate. jenna: doug mcelway, thank you so much. jon: a court hearing for aerial castro the former school bus driver accused of kidnapping three women and locking them up in his home for a decade. he faces hundreds of charges. details on what lies ahead in tomorrow's arraignment. nly huma] [ ship horn blows ] no, no, no! stop! humans. one day we're coming up with the theory of relativity,
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jenna: now let's turn to the weather. new flooding concerns in the already saturated northeast, while hail and possible tornadoes are a threat across the northern plains and midwest. another busy day for maria molina here with your fox forecast now. >> reporter: hello, everyone. today we are talking about the severe weather that occurred yesterday and what we are expecting still yet again today. take a look at what happened yesterday. we had seven reported tornadoes, overall more than one hundred reports of severe weather. the biggest concern yesterday was damaging winds and indeed that's what happened across parts of the carolinas, tennessee, kentucky, and even into parts of the mid-atlantic. in the baltimore area multiple reports of tornado activity and winds in excess of 65 miles an hour reported. flooding was also a concern. take a look at how much rain we saw. some of the areas shaded in red and orange saw more than 4 inches of rain. you had to deal with flooding
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across parts of virginia all the way up into sections of new jersey. today the storm system not a huge concern in terms of severe weather or flooding just lingering showers across parts of maine even into upstate new york already throughout the day today. that will be clearing out tomorrow will be a beautiful day across the northeast, get out and enjoy it. take a look at the areas farther west. this is the plain states parts of montana, the dakotas as we head into minimum so the that and even into the great lakes, including the city of chicago, you could be looking today at severe weather, large hail, damaging winds being the main concerns but an isolated tornado cannot be ruled out. then this storm system continues to head eastbound and tomorrow we are still looking at very significant cities or largely populated cities like chicago, detroit, cleveland and pittsburgh included under th the today veer weather risk with hail, winds and tornadoes possible as you head into wednesday. we have a couple of days of very active weather in terms of the severe possibility and even flooding concerns across sections of the midwest. that is something we'll be looking out here, another busy day.
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jon: it doesn't sound good. maria, thank you. >> reporter: thank you. jon: right now the ohio man accused of kidnapping three women and holding them captive in his home nor year for years faces arraignment tomorrow in cleveland on more than 300 charges, including kidnapping, rape and even murder. rick folbaum has that story. >> reporter: 3429 separate charges, jon. castro officially responds tomorrow at his arraignment that's when his lawyer says he'll plead not guilty to the charges, all stemming from the near decade-long imprisonment of amanda berry, gina de jesus and amanda knight. investigators continuing to go through the house looking for any evidence that might help them in their case. this was the scene just yesterday, seven different search warrants being executed at that house. the warrants are sealed. so far police have a sample of castro's dna, along with his phone and computer records.
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the two counts of aggravated murder that you mentioned, jon, are based on prosecutor's belief that he caused one of the women to have a miscarriage by starving her and punching her in the stomach. amanda berry escaped from the house last month with the help of a neighbor. the women along with berry's young daughter born during their captivity have kept out of the spotlight for good and obvious reasons. again, castro planning a not guilty plea. he is currently being held on $8 million bond. back to you. jon: wow that is going to be fascinating to see that when he ten rick folbaum thanks. jenna: the healthcare law is months away from full implementation. dr. marc siegl is joining us with questions you need to be asking right now. it's time to call your doctor and ask these questions. you don't want to miss what doctor siegel has to say. he's next.
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jon: the doctor is in and the clock is ticking with many new regulations under obama care set to kick in january 1st one doctor says now is the time to have the conversation with your doctor. no, not necessarily about personal things, but rather to ask about how obama care will effect you. can you really keep your doctor? what will it mean for your job
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and the insurance offered by your employer? dr.~marc siegl has been an outspoken critic of the president's healthcare law, a professor of medicine at new york university langone medical center and a fox news medical a-teamer. having the conversation with your doctor where do you start. >> 2014 is looming. you start with your doctor by asking her or him will you going to be still taking my insurance, are you going to be in private practice? can you afford the expenses of private practice? will you be moving to a hospital? will you be shrinking your practice, taking less medicare patients? if a patient is reaching 65 they may have a rude awakening. their doctor may be shrinking medicare. 2% under sequestration. a lot of the procedures are getting cut. doctors in the future are going to be reinforced for quality care, what is called quality care. that means if you're sick we may not get paid as much for seeing you if we can't show that we are getting you better. we are going to struggle with all that paperwork to prove
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quality, that is going to cause a lot of us to flee. jon: the last time i saw my orthopedic surgeon the guy who has been putting me back together over the years he told me he's not taking medicare pw-pbt patients any more because he can't afford to. >> even if i'm your primary care and your or the peed 'tis is in my neck work i might not be able to refer you, because he may not take the same insurance i do. jon: are the doctors aware? can they answer these questions? there seems to be as much confusion on the part of the physicians as the general public. >> i think doctors are aware now. i think doctors have understood what this law means and if you have them the questions they'll tell you what they are going to be doing. you can't just restrict it to doctors you have to ask your insurance agent. what about my insurance? will that grandfather in under obama care or will i end up with more comprehensive insurance that covers more but with exploding premiums. healthcare costs are going up 36%. that means higher and higher premiums. the state exchanges have all of
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these plans, cadillac plans . they have platinum plans, gold plans, bronze plans, they sound great but they will have very high premiums. can you afford the premiums? jon: the president has been bragging that obama care is working, and that it's not going to increase premiums. >> listen the topic of the week is the president gives great speeches but doesn't necessarily 0 born out in the facts, that is true with obama care. obama care we know is very, very expensive the it's going to lead to higher premiums and lead to policies that may give you more than you need. if you're over 26 years old, if you're healthy, if you don't have a chronic illness you may end up getting hit with a very high cost that you don't need for services you may never need. jon: one of the things that kicked in early in this plan, and the president again bragged about this a lot is the fact that 26-year-olds, or young people up to 26 can - remain on their parents insurance. that is kind of easy for the insurance companies because people in that age group don't generally need a whole lot of medical care. they are young and healthy.
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>> you just took the words right out of my mouth on that one. i would like someone up to the age of 26 to be covered too but i want a high deductible on them because they may not be sick. why should they contribute to the high costs when they may not need the coverage? if they got into a skiing accident as you have or got hurt god forbid i want insurance to kick in. but every visit to the doctor's office shouldn't necessarily be covered when you're 22 years old. you may not need that visit. jon: all right. >> preventative care takes place when you're exercising. it doesn't necessarily take place in a doctor's office. >> talk to your doctor, talk to your accountant and insurance agent. >> right now. find out what they are planning. your doctor will tell you what he or she is planning. >> dr.~marc siegl of the fox news medical a team thank you. >> good to see you, jon. jenna: we'll turn back to on of our top stories today the selfproclaimed nsa's leaker's allegation sound like something out of a hollywood movie for spy thriller. how accurate are they? is it possible that the man overstated the claims about the
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government's ability to snoop. we'll talk to a cyber terrorist analyst who taught for the nsa and separate fact from fiction. we are just learning shocking information about some of the people who could decide his fate, the jury controversy next. what makes your family smile?
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jon: other than saying president obama has been briefed on the nsa leaks the white house has
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been pretty tightlipped since edward snowden went public over the weekend. chief white house core respond denned henry joins us from the north lawn. why isn't the president talking a lot about edward snowden. >> it is curious because jay carney says the president wants to have a debate about the surveillance programs, explain it to the american people. he did speak out in california last friday. a lot has happened since then, in terms of edward snowden. yesterday at the people yum jay carney repeatedly refused to comment on the leaker. the sense is they kept referring it -- this is own ongoing investigation. they want to let the justice department take a lead on a possible prosecution. jay carney did defend the surveillance as a necessary tool to preventer or attacks. you've got republicans like rand paul saying that is not good enough. take a listen. >> this is what our founding father fathers fought the revolution over. they objected to general warrants. these were warrants that didn't specify who was going to be searched for the british soldiers could go from house to
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house. now we are going from computer to computer not of people who are suspected of being terrorists, of every american. >> it's entirely appropriate for a program to exist to look at foreign data and foreign -- potential foreign terrorists, but there are procedures in place, as the director made clear, and as the president made clear, both at the congressional, executive and judicial levels that provide oversight over these programs. >> reporter: the question of congressional oversight you'll remember the president on friday told the american people that everyone in congress had been briefed on this. it turns out we've talked to several democrats and republicans who say they were not briefed. the white house's answer to that is that briefings remain available. not every member of congress in both parties decided to get the briefing inks. there seems to be a dispute as to who is at fault on that.
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the white house claim that everyone got a briefing, of it doesn't appear that turned out to be true, jon. jon: what about the director of national intelligence? >> you've heard james clapper putting out statements about how it's doing grave damage to national security e. has to be worried personally, james clapper about what it's doing to him. if you'll remember back in march he was asked a question at a hearing by democratic senator ron wyden about any of the data mining was going on and he basically didn't tell a straight story. he said it was not happening and he's faced a lot of criticism from that. and in fact just this morning senator wyden who is a democrat said quote so that he would be prepared to answer i sent the question to the director clapper's office a day in advance. after the hearing was over my staff and i gave his office a chance to amend his answer. now public hearings are needed to address the recent disclosures and the american people have the right to express are straight answers from the intelligence leadership to the questions asked by their representatives. that is even more interesting. here you have a democrat saying this was not a gotcha question of james clapper back in march.
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he had given him a heads up he was going to ask the question. gave him a chance to amend it after the answer was made and james clapper didn't do that. a lot of questions coming in the congressional hearings that you can bet will be happening in the house and senate in the days ahead. jon: isn't there supposed to be a briefing for all members so that everyone finally can get briefed on all this? >> that is happening in the house today. you can anticipate senators will be getting similar briefing inks as well. they are obviously getting a lot of heat, a lot of questions now at the white house and they are trying to give congress a bit more information. jon:ed henry at the white house where things are certainly interesting. thank you. jenna: continuing coverage of one of our top stories, the nsa leaker, the reporter who broke the story says edward snowden revealed even more details about secret federal surveillance programs and they will come to light in the future over the next few weeks. in the meantime there are new questions about whether snowden overstated his claims about the government's ability to snoop. we wanted to fact check this a little bit, add a little context.
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morgan wright is a cyber terrorism analyst, a former adviser to the state department's antiterrorism assistant program and worked as an instructor for the nsa. morgan, a loot of us when we looa lot of us when we look for context about how the government is spying on us allegedly we look to hollywood or fiction. let's get a little about it real on what snowden said. he said that our government can reach anyone at any time. is that true based on what is technically available, our capabilities? is that the truth? >> well, look, the problem with dealing with classified information, jenna, is that it is so hard to separate fact from fiction. people can create legends, they can say things and the intelligence community will not come out and say that is wrong because the minute they specifically deny something they've given our enemies insight into our capabilities. if we say we can't do photographs from a satellite at this resolution we've just given some stuff away. you will always get this i can neither confirm or deny.
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my personal belief that at 29 years old at the level this guy was at he's more about creating his legend than he is actually about having the amount of data or the facts that he says he has. jenna: what makes you think that? >> look, i taught behavior analysis interview and interrogation out at the nsa. they rightly are a very paranoid agencies. the systems were locked down. when you look there is open scores information about how they look down their systems, how they do not code. one does not talk into the nsa insert a thumb drive and copy down national secrets. let me tell you this. the fact that this information has come out that he was talking to the guardian reporter before he went to work doing this. the fact that he's got access to this. a 29-year-old at his level it shocks me that he would have this kind of access. jenna: let me ask you something a little bit more technical. one of the things that we're talking a lot about in broad terms is the data that is out there that all of us have. >> yes. jenna: the government seems to
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be saying, or what we are gleaning from the government is, yes, we can collect data, but no we are not getting to the content. and morgan, can you explain that to us? is it possible just to gather data and close your eyes and say well i'm not really reading it? or is that not possible? because it seems so strange. >> yeah, no it's possible. back in the day as a detective we used to be able to do what we called penn registered or toll number records, we could see who they were calling, we could get that with an administrative subpoena, it did not require a search warrant. if you could hear what they were saying that required a higher level of review, much more authorization and the rules around it were much more strict. the nsa, the cia have got absolutely top secret tools. they have tools that we can't even begin to streu describe. so can they get to the content? yes. the question is are they following the policy in because the only difference between a policy and a rule is really do you follow it. the yellow line only keeps that car on the other side of the
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highway because of trust. people have trust. are they doing their job. jenna: that is something it seems like we don't have the answer to that right now. that question is being raised in general by lawmakers and the public. a quick final question for you. we've shown this video and we'll show it again of a storage facility being built in utah to store data. again we don't know a ton about it but we know it's a storage facility. taking a look at that how vulnerable is that do you think to steupb a sister forces? not the government but to our enemies having one big or several big buildings in one area of the country that is storing all of this data? >> well, you know, there's things called physical and logical security. from a physical standpoint it becomes a massive operation to get the gates, guns, guards, necessary to secure this. the access controls in and out. and then there is logical security. how do we protect the information? is it attempting target, yes but it's in utah for a reason. it's going to be very hard for an adversary, somebody with the capability to destroy it to get there. i'm concerned once you start
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centralizing information, put it all-in-one place it makes it easier for analysis and it makes it easier for traffic analysis but it makes it easier for one person if they get the right key to be unable to unlock a lot of stuff. jenna: we have a whole lot of questions you. you will be in studio later on this he can with. if we can secure the information and make our emails more secure and text messages and everything else we want to teach our viewers how they can do that this week in case they are concerned. we'll see you on thursday, morgan in studio. >> see you thursday, jenna. jenna: we'll be ready with all our devices ready to make them all encrypted. thank you very much. >> see you thursday, jenna. jon: nobody knows this stuff better. there are break being details in the trial of accused gangster james "whitey" bulger, what prosecutors are saying about the jury pool and all the latest in a live report coming up.
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>> breaking details in the trial of accused boston gangster james "whitey" bulger. rick is live where more. >> it gives a new meaning to jury of your peers. 13 out of the 70 people in the pool of potential jurors wound up having criminal backgrounds themselves. one and has four felony convictions even though he claimed on his jury questionnaire to have none. people who have felonies are not h eligible to serve as jurors. people who commit misdemeanors can. james "whitey" bulger is accused of participating in 19 murders in the 70s and 80s. he was on the run from law enforcement for 16 years before finally being captured in 2011 in california. even with the not so pristine jury pool we've got gotten word a jury has been chosen. no word if any of the folks on the jury have a criminal backed. jenna: very bold.
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lie on your jury form? >> reporter: i think you can get in trouble for that. jenna: you would think. >> reporter: you would think. jenna: rick, thank you. jon: that is a new one. and then this high profile case, it is day two of jury selection in the george zimmerman trial underway right now. so far it's a painstaking process. attorneys only getting to question four potential jurors yesterday. only one topic too. their knowledge of the february 2012 shooting of unarmed teenager trayvon martin. phil keating is live outside the courthouse in sanford, florida. so, phil, attorneys are moving along today are they? >> a little bit faster than yesterday, jon. already this morning four more prospective jurors have been inside the courtroom answering questions by the attorneys. inside the courtroom here at the seminole county courthouse again sitting at the defense table george zimmerman and also for the second straight day after coming out of hiding for more than a year yesterday there is his wife, shelly zimmerman sitting next to her bodyguard.
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attorneys are basically focused on three primary questions here, what have you heard about this case? can you be impartial? will serving be a hardship? across the board every single person knows about this high profile case. >> i just figure that maybe they went wrong at one time. things went wrong and they disagreed, and something happened. i don't know what happened i wasn't there but i don't think it was racially motivated. >> of course the judge precluding the immediate yeah of showing the identity of the jurors. that i can a look at this. george zimmerman this morning during a funny answer by juror b7 cracked a big smile across his face. that is the first smile i've seen in the past year on george zimmerman who of course has been enduring quite a trying 12 months, jon. jon: what are the attorneys from both sides aiming for here? 0. >> well, a lot of strategy is in play. the clerk of course here sent out 500 summons to people in seminole county to possibly serve on this jury. the defense generally speaking,
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>> reporter: hi, everybody, we're here in the "happening now" control room, and brand new stories coming your way over the next 60 minutes including the question of hero or traitor as the debate over edward snowden's disclosures continues. one of the operates he leaked to says more bombshells are coming. we'll have the latest on that. also, major changes on the plan b birth control pill. why the government is saying any woman can buy it, regardless of her age. and what next for the faithful football player tim tebow? we'll tell you which nfl team is praying he can help get them to the superpole. all of -- super bowl. all of that and breaking news as the second hour of "happening
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now" starts right now. ♪ ♪ jon: we are awaiting new revelations in the nsa surveillance controversy with the whereabouts of the leaker unknown right now. hello, i'm jon scott. jenna: welcome to the second hour of "happening now," everyone, i'm jenna lee, and the justice department now weighing charges against edward snowden, the government contractor who was fired after disclosing classified information about the government's programs. he collected telephone records and e-mails of many americans. but that bombshell may just be the tip of the iceberg, or so says the journalist who broke this story. glenn greenwald says he has more documents that contain significant revelations about the nsa. in the meantime, as jon just said, snowden is nowhere to be found after checking out of his hotel in hong kong, so the story has many twists and turns. catherine herridge is live from washington with more for us now. >> reporter: thank you, jenna, and good morning.
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there's growing evidence that the posting of the snowden video by "the guardian" is carefully choreographed and executed. the journalist at the center says more are coming. >> we're going to have a lot more significant revelations that have not yet been heard over the next several weeks and months. how fast we get the next one out is something we're deciding now. but there are dozens of stories generated by the document that is he provided, and we intend to pursue every last one of them. >> reporter: fbi agents visit the pennsylvania home of snowden's parents, and greenwald says he's concerned about his source who he describes as savvy. >> he's a very rational, smart, intelligent person who made this choice with full recognition of what he was like willing bringing upon himself -- likely bringing upon himself. so i don't feel sorry for him in any way, he's fully ready for
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whatever it is that's coming his way. >> booz allen hamilton, the national security contract where snowden worked this morning confirming that he's been fired for violating the company's code of ethics, adding that his salary was $122,000 a year, not $200,000 as previously reported. and with two briefings on the nsa programs coming up shortly on capitol hill, both are classified and closed to the public. democratic senator ron wyden this morning called for public hearings after this exchange with the nation's intelligence chief in march. >> does the nsa collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, sir. >> it does not? >> not wittingly. there are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps, collect. but not wittingly. >> reporter: in a statement this morning, senator wyden's office confirmed that clapper
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was, in fact, given that question in advance so that he could answer it fully in a public setting and then after that exchange, he was given the opportunity to amend his answer. the implication from wyden's office is that clapper's statements were not direct and truthful given the kiss closures -- disclosures of the nsa program this week. jenna? jenna: more questions yet to be asked, catherine. thank you. >> reporter: you welcome. jon: a government agency rocked by the benghazi scandal faces another big one. a memo sent by a top internal auditor at the state department to his colleagues contains bombshell allegations about eight internal probes of employees' conduct that the higher-ups at the department of state supposedly worked overtime to cover up. the eight cases involve allegations of criminal misconduct by state department employees including things like prostitution, sexual assaults and even a drug ring. chief washington correspondent james rosen live from the state department with that.
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james? >> reporter: jon and jenna, good afternoon. this story has many moving parts. it is unfolding literally as we speak as just this morning a u.s. ambassador accused by internal state department investigators of committing sex crimes is now responding to those charges. ambassador howard gutman, who you will see on your screen, in brussels with secretary of state john kerry just two months ago. gutman is the united states' top diplomat in belgium. the october memo that you mentioned written by an official with the state department's office of inspector general said that a special agent had, quote: determined that gutman was, quote. routinely ditching his protective security detail in order to engage prostitutes and solicit minors for sex. >> reporter: gutman adds:
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>> r eporter: now, the october memo further alleged that the special agent who made this determination about the ambassador was blocked from setting up a surveillance operation by undersecretary of state for management, patrick kennedy. kennedy, quote: directed diplomatic security to cease the investigation, unquote. >> these are allegations in a memo. so, obviously, as i say at the beginning, all these cases are being looked into. they were already in the process of being looked into prior to the memo. and, again, i don't have any update on status, or i don't want to break down what is happening internally. >> reporter: another bombshell contained in the october to memo from the office of inspector general was its assertion that the use of prostitutes by the diplomatic security agents protecting then-secretary of state hillary clinton early in her travels abroad overseas was, quote, endemic. >> last year alone the detail
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accompanied then-secretary clinton to 69 countries with more than 10,000 person nights spent in hotels abroad. so i'm not going to speak to specific cases. as i said at the onset for obvious reasons, but it is hardly endemic. >> reporter: in all, the october memo from the office of the inspector general here at the state department listed eight cases that were supposedly disrupted or halted altogether because of undue influence from higher-ups in this building. jon? jon: james rosen at the state department, thank you. there are new questions about the irs scandal and its investigation as a top democrat in congress declares the case solved and is urging house investigators to move on. talking about congressman elijiah cummings. he says new details should absolve the white house of blame. republicans are pressing forward anyway. house oversight committee chairman darrell issa released excerpts of interviews with irs
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staffers suggesting washington orchestrated the program. while michigan congressman dave camp is working with democrats to try the get to the bottom of the scandal. let's bring in byron york with the washington examiner and a fox news contributor. to elijiah cummings first. over the weekend on one of the sunday shows he said, look, he's read some testimony from an irs manager in the cincinnati office, a self-described conservative republican who said he is the guy who started the investigation of tea party groups. now, congressman cummings has taken that testimony, you know, taken that excerpt and said case closed, let's move on, the white house is not to blame. what do you make of that? >> well, what's been going on while we've been seeing the hearings in public, the staff for this committee has been interviewing irs people in cincinnati, pretty much everybody in that cincinnati office. and what we saw over the weekend was representative cummings, the ranking committee, and darrell issa, the
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chairman of the committee, kind of cherry picking those interviews to make the points that they want to make. elijiah cummings, obviously, a lot of democrats believe that the irs scandal was the most damaging one of several scandals besetting the administration right now, wants to declare it over, case closed, it's all set. what darrell issa is saying, though, is that we've got a lot more information from these interviews that we need to get together and to get out. and i think as a member of the public, i think we all need to see all of these interviews so nobody's just cherry picking this part or that part. jon: yeah. so what are the prospects of that? how long is it going to take until we get to see all of these people who tell congressional investigators? >> well, it'll happen sooner or later. elijiah cummings threatened to release this interview, the one with the so-called conservative republican. he threatened to do it by the end of this week if darrell issa doesn't do it himself. but i think one reason the chairman is waiting a while is
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they want to finish all of the interviews. they don't want to release one guy's and another guy's, and then you have a partial picture. we can look at them all and get a picture of what was going on in the office in cincinnati. jon: well, is cummings' approach going to fly? is he going to get his wish, and will this investigation just sort of die on the vine? >> absolutely not. [laughter] the majority party controls things in the house, and republicans are in the majority. darrell issa is the chairman. so elijiah cummings can say as many times as he wants to that this investigation is over, time to go home, and it's not going to stop if republicans want to keep continuing to pursue this. and right now we still have not heard from a number of people both in cincinnati and in washington to find out what was going on at the irs office here in washington. so there's absolutely no doubt in the world that darrell issa is going to continue this for a while. jon: so it's not time to close the book just yet. >> not gonna happen. jon: all right. byron i don't york, thank you.
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>> thank you, jon. jenna: turning overseas, former south african president nelson mandela is spending a fourth day hospitalized with a reoccurring lung infection. the 94-year-old remains in serious condition, although doctors say he is stable. family members arriving at his bedside as security has been increased at the hospital. greg talcott is live from london following this story. greg? >> reporter: hey, jenna, yeah. the latest word we are getting on the condition of nelson mandela is no change considering the unconfirmed reports we're getting on his health, maybe that is good news. this latest report comes from a statement out of the office of south african president jacob zuma in addition to saying the former south african leader remains in serious but stable position, zuma also says he met with the medical team handling mandela, he is satisfied with what they're doing, and this is important -- has no immediate plans to visit him in the short range at least. that could be good news too. there is some speculation that zuma was going to visit. we were seeing police and
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barricades set up outside of the pretoria hospital where he is being treated for that recurring lung infection which stems from his very long years in prison following his opposition to the apartheid regime in south africa. he has been getting other visitors today though. again, his ex-wife winnie was there as well as his daughters, but as we understand, he is in the intensive care unit, so it's a very careful condition that they are visiting him. again, some reports that he has pneumonia, some reports that it is more serious than that. this as the vigil continues in south africa, of course, they consider nelson mandela the father of the nation. this is the fourth time he has been in the hospital since last december, so a lot of people are concerned this could be a very serious moment for this national icon. some are saying he's approaching the age of 95, we should just let him go as some say, others are concerned considering the challenge, the state that south africa is in right now politically, economically,
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socially. they're worried about a period after mandela. he has been out of the public spotlight, jenna, for several years. this should be a little bit of an easier transition, but, of course, everyone knows it won't be for south africa, maybe even for the world. jenna: and we saw those little children, they were singing outside his home? >> reporter: exactly. they were outside the home, his former home, and they were also outside the hospital too. the whole nation is outpouring. jenna: the whole world paying attention to this story as well. greg, thank you. jon: ending the age restriction on emergency contraception. what the obama administration's reversal means for plan b. and a great find in the great lakes. we told you about this story yesterday. how hunters located what they believe to be a shipwreck from more than a century ago, more than 500 feet underwater. it's an amazing story. ♪ muck i do a lot of research on angie's list
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for a body in motion. jon: the white house clears the way o sell emergency contraception without any age restrictions. the justice department dropping its legal challenge to the fda's plan that would make plans like plan b available over the counter to girls pretty much of any age with no restrictions. molly henneberg live in washington. so why did the justice department all of a sudden change course like this, molly? >> reporter: well, jon, first of all, this applies only to plan b one-step, that's the one pill emergency contraception that will be sold over the counter without a prescription to anyone of any age. now, the justice department said the makers of plan b one-step had data showing that a younger adolescents were able to, quote: understand and follow the directions for safe and effective use, and that's part of why they changed course. pro-choice groups hailed this decision.
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jessica air reasons with the center for american progress said, quote: >> r eporter: like, for example, having to show an id. the federal judge who ordered the obama administration to take this step has to officially sign off on it now. jon? jon: but the critics are saying that the justice department is really caving into political pressure from the left here, right? >> reporter: yes, and they point to the president himself. president obama said that he was concerned, this was back in 2011, that if 10 or 11-year-old girls used it incorrectly, the drug could have a, quote, adverse effect. that's what the president said. and pro-life groups say doctors should be in the loop when preteens or young teens take such a medication. charmaine yoest with americans
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united for life said, quote: >> r eporter: life ending in that plan b one-step can prevent implantation of an embryo into the mother, but it's meant to prevent conception in the first place if taken correctly. jon? jon: i have to give permission to the school nurse to give my daughter an ibuprofen at school. it would seem a little regulation would be a good thing here, but we'll see. molly, thank you. jenna: edward snowden is allegedly on the run, and lawmakers here want him extradited, house speaker john boehner calling him a traitor who put american lives at risk. how much more at risk are we this week than we were last week at the same time? well, the mother of all
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jenna: welcome back, everyone. new fallout from one of the most explosive national security leaks in american history as the justice department weighs criminal charges against the man on your screen, edward snowden. this after he disclosed classified information about the government's sweeping surveillance activities. some republicans in congress are now calling for his immediate extradition, labeling him a defector. speaker of the house john boehner taking it even further. take a listen. >> he's a traitor. the president outlined last week that these were important national security programs to help keep americans safe and give us tools to fight the
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terrorist threat that we face. the disclosure of this information puts americans at risk, it shows our adversaries what our capabilities are, and it's a giant violation of the law. jenna: peter brooks, senior fellow for national security affairs at the heritage foundation and former cia officer. speaker boehner says we're at risk, so let's take that to a very personal level. how do you think the security of the average american family is affected by this latest information? >> well, look, jenna, i mean, look back to usama bin laden and in 2001 when our troops went into afghanistan. shortly thereafter the trail went cold for almost ten years, because he found out that we were intercepting his satellite and other phone calls. same sort of thing here. the bad guys, whether they're terrorists, whether they're nation states, whether they're
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nuclear weapons proliferaters, now know that we're collecting this information and have some idea how we're collecting it, and they will try to go around it, they will try to find other ways to communicate that we may not be able to pick up on and get the information we need to prevent acts from potentially happening that would impersonal injury negatively on our -- imming negatively on our national security. jenna: like what? besides the e-mails, the phone calls, the text messages, what else is out there? >> couriers. how did we run down usama bin laden, right? it was a courier. how many years did it take us to find him? ten before we brought him long. you could do that sort of thing. there are other ways of going around this. they can also, you know, they can also put out disinformation. jenna: so you really -- >> they know we're listening to it -- jenna: so you really think that we're really personally affected by this use, that this is not -- >> absolutely. absolutely, jenna. why was this kept top secret?
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because it masks important intelligence sources and methods. if you're in intelligence collection, you never tell the bad guys how you're picking their pockets, because they do something to prevent you from doing it in the future. we may have had important streams of information here. i don't know this for sure, obviously, i'm on the outside like you are. but we may have had important streams of information that will dry up. we've seen this time and time again in the history of intelligence whether it's code breaking or whatever. and we know how important that sort of information is. you think about the battle of midway, the campaign in world war ii in europe. once they find out that you're reading their mail, they find a way to work around it because they know that you're reading it, and you're getting the information they don't want you to get your hands on. jenna: the concern, of course, from the public is why we should trust the government with all this information, right? we had some information about usama bin laden before the attacks of 9/11, and just because you have the information doesn't mean you're using it in the best way.
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of course, it's always 20/20 hindsight, right, on an issue big as that. >> right. jenna: but there's now calls about getting information that's already been released, and one of them has to do with this top secret court. the foreign intelligence surveillance court that many of us didn't know about that is the court that decides in secret whether or not surveillance can take place. and we have a bipartisan group of lawmakers, of senators, in fact, that are calling for some more information about that to tell the public how the determination is made about whether or not your phone calls or text messages or e-mails are dipped into or not to. what do you think about that just with your background, peter? what do you think about that call from the public and what's in our best interests? >> well, unfortunately, this is all being caught up in things hike the irs scandal, right? benghazi. because now people are already worried about this administration, worried about trusting government, and now they have even additional questions here. so it's snowballing, it's compounding. look, this is the reason we have a congress. this is the reason we have
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members of congress with security clearances and their staffs on both sides of the aisle to do due diligence, to do oversight of these sort of programs. we have to be very careful about the information that is let out. i mean, just think about a criminal case, jenna. if you don't want to tell the bad guys that you're listening to what they're doing or watching what they're doing because they'll stop doing it. jenna: but do you think -- >> and that's exactly the same when we're talking about national security. jenna: but one of the themes of those stories is big government and whether or not government has gotten so big that oversight by lawmakers is not something they can even do because there's just so many contractors and agencies. what about that part of it? >> well, i mean, i'm not trying to go roughshod over civil liberties. you know, very important, but i'm not a constitutional scholar, and i'm not a lawyer. but from a national security standpoint, yes, this is a very vast organization, the intelligence community, that people are trying to, you know, do oversight on. i do think that we probably need more members on the intelligence
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committees on the hill. they're some of the smallest committees up there. very critically important that they are, that they get the appropriate oversight. but, you know, i mean, if you're talking about hundreds of thousands of people, billions of dollars, very big programs, there are certainly some challenges there. but once again, a lot of it really comes down to trust. jenna: uh-huh. >> just in the snowden case, can you trust this individual to protect classified information. jenna: and there's a big question about that. well, not now, obviously. a big question about how we can trust, and that's one of the big themes. peter, even though you're not a constitutional attorney, we'll take you as a former cia guy. [laughter] >> thank you very much. jenna: thank you. look forward to having you back. >> great to be here. jon: time to close the barn door, but the horse is already out. we are awaiting two key briefings on this nsa program. we'll go live to capitol hill one hearing for a senate committee, the other for all members of the house. what lawmakers will learn, we're live on the hill with that. and new developments in the space race.
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jon: live on hill awaiting two key briefings. this as all the members of the house get ready to be briefed on the nsa's controversial surveillance program. rich edson with the fox business network live in washington with more on that. >> reporter: good afternoon, jon. some lawmakers are already calling for curbs on how the federal government collects and uses phone calls and emails. others want hearings. some say edward snowden the contractor who leaked the top secret information is a traitor. in response to these leaks a spokesperson for the national security agency says the continued publication of these allegations about highly classified issues and other information taken out of context makes it impossible to conduct a reasonable discussion on the merits of these programs. from here lawmakers and lawyers will debate whether the government is going too far. meanwhile investigators are
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reportedly examining how snowden as a federal contractor in hawaii, had access to such sensitive information. some in washington are questioning whether the government relies too much on contractors and one security expert says a government worker could have just as easily leaked this information. >> contractors exist for a lot of reasons. if you have a limited budget under sequester you can't hire people for ten years. you don't know if the money is there. so you hire people under a shorter term contract. a civil servant can blow the whistle just like a contractor can. i don't see that as the relevant distinction. >> reporter: snowden worked as a federal contractor with booze allen hamilton. the company says it fired him yesterday. in an interview with th "the guardian" newspaper he said he was in a hong kong hotel. reports say he has since checked out of that hotel. back to you. jon: all right, rich edson in washington. going to be an interesting day on the hill. thanks. jenna: right now what's happening in florida, the task of picking a fair and impartial jury in one of the most khraoes
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lee watcheclosely watched and polarizing cases in year. jury selection in the george zimmerman trial in the second day as potential jurors are asked what they know about the death of mart ran and whether they can keep an open find. lis wiehl is a former prosecutor. doug burns is a defense attorney. i picked up one of the quotes from one of the men in his mid 60s, this is what he told some of the lawyers about how he felt about the case. he said there was fault on both sides as far as i can see. two people being in the wrong place at the wrong time. two people who instigated something that could have been avoided. i picked that because it reflects the sentiment that there are two wrongs here that don't justify a killing but that there is no quote unquote winner in this case. >> exactly. that is a great defense juror wrote -pbt you say, doug? >> absolutely, yes. >> that is someone you want on the defense. all of them, the four, six who have bee have been questioned
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said they could be fair and impartial. they are just like we don't want to be there, we can be fair and impartial. but these people want to be on that jury. >> are. jenna: they asked the guy if he wanted to be there. jenna he said he would be playing golf otherwise. >> the point is here they want to serve. as far as seating a jury you need people who have not formed any preconceived notions of what happened, and can start with a completely clean slate. how can you tell if they are being truthful? >> it's naive to think -- they've definitely listened to the media, heard discussions about everyone talking about it. they've seen things especially because they are in the neighborhood right there. but that is not the legal standard. the legal standard is, even if you've heard about this case from whatever media source you've heard about it from friends or whatever can you still be fair and impartial? so far when i'm looking at all
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the questionnaires coming back from the jurors they are all saying they can be fair and impartial. >> the metaphor is can you look the defendant in the face and despite what you've heard, seen or read about him you say i have no idea about anything about this person and he is innocent in my mind until i hear or see evidence that proves he did a crime. >> in florida we only have six jurors they have to pick. every juror is even more important, just such a narrow focus. jenna: there's been a lot of questions about what is going to be allowed into the trial and what is not. looking through all of that it seems like the central debate still of this case, even though we've looked at the issue of race and we've looked at the issue of stand your ground which is now not part of the case any more, it's who started the fight. there doesn't seem to be -- we have phone calls, emergency calls, 911 calls, that really what this case is going to be about? >> yes and no. and i'll tell you why, because you know what it's it's worth clearing this up right now. just because the defendant may have followed him, right, or
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admonish kwra*eufte initiated the encounter doesn't mean he's prohibited from using self-defense. >> wait a second there was one person carrying a gun that night. >> that is a good point this would be a completely different case if the victim had a weapon. and it would be a completely different case by the way if zimmerman had some kind of life threatening injury and after he killed the victim he was raced off to the hospital. be that as it may jenna's point is if there is a deadlock in the ability to determine, was it really a fistfight and a killing or did he reasonably think he was going to die? if you can't determine that then the defendant must be acquitted. >> those are the things where things come in like the 911 call comes in where we don't need you to follow him. we don't -- jenna: he does anyway. >> exactly. jenna: there were questions about have trayvon martin was tracking him or how it all went down. as we are looking through all the different dynamic -gs o die nam dynamics of the jury and
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what they have to deal with does it come down to who threw the first punch, and if we don't know the answer to that can be the tried fairly? >> that's sort of like we can't really tell what happened. >> that juror is not on the juror necessarily. jenna: we'll see what happens. three weeks is that typical, three weeks you think. >> it's going to take a while. >> a little less. jenna: then we are onto the case. lis, doug thank you so much. jon: some answers in a century old maritime mystery with the discovery of a shipwreck in lake superior. we'll speak to the man who says he found the henry b. smith near here one hundred years after it disappeared. and tim tebow getting a new life in the nfl. the quarterback cut from the new york jets in april. find out what colors he'll be wearing as well as our producer, when the season kicks off.
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skwraop it i jenna: it is official they said his career is over. jon's favorites, the show's favorites really tim tebow is now a new england patriot. banjulie banderas is leer with a loolook at the fox 411. a sports version of it. >> reporter: who knew i was a sports expert. i only play one on tv.
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after a disappointing 2012 season with the new york jets tim tebow one of the nfl's most polarizing players has found a new home and like it or not beantown as most of you know tebow seen here on the cover of the "boston herald" has been singled out for his strong christian beliefs. his performance on the field had led to talk whether his f would end his career in lack the nfl. the pats announcerred they have signed tebow to a contract and twitter has gone hysterical with tweets like tebow going to england makes me so happy because let's be honest this means he'll never may again. i know we are all ragging on tebow but that guy still makes more money sitting on the toilet than the rest of us do working actual jobs. here is one from jose canseco. tebow will start against the jets and win bella check will become the master troll. the coach who is loved by
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patriot fans and is arguably the greatest coach of his era woupd up wound up with a news conference talking about him. >> he's a talented player who work works hard. we'll see how it goes. >> reporter: unlike the jets who signed tebow after great fanfare and rarely even used him. belichick has been rig to gamble on players in the past and the patriots will most likely take their time developing him. stay tuned to find out what happens there. tebow is expected to participate in the team's mandatory mini-camp today as a quarterback for now anyway. jenna: we are fans, we admit it, right, jon? he did well for my broncos. jenna: we are routeing for him eufrpblgts they have he. we have to wait and prove his critics wrong like he did on the broncos. jon: more than 500 feet under
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the surface a remarkable discovery. the henry b. smith sank in lake superior nearly 100 years ago. it went down after sailing into what would become known as the great lake storm of 1913, it bank a bunch of other ships as well. a group of shipwreck hunters say they located that ship 25 miles off marquette, michigan. jerry is one of those hunters and joins us on the phone. it's my understanding you were ready to retire from the shipwreck hunting business but decided to give this one a go, what persuaded you? >> well i hadn't committed to retiring from shipwreck hunting until we found the u656. i had been telling people i was going to retire from shipwreck hunting once me found the boat off newfoundland. that was the first u both used by u.s. forces in world war 2 roam row. i didn't think there were any great findable wrecks left in
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lake superior. jon: what about this one that made it such a mystery? >> well it's in what is referred to as a class of wrecks called went missing wrecks. they are ones that disappeared without any witnesses, and all that remained of them is a little bit of wreckage that came ashore. so those are the really tough ones to look for because you don't have a location to start. i estimated that it could easily have been anywhere within a thousand square miles, and it would have taken us about 250 days to search that area. then there would still only be a 90% chance that it was within that thousand mayor miles. jon: i know you're not revealing your methods here. there was some computer models made, you did some freedom of information requests, other things like that that helped you locate this ship, right? >> yes, my wife is the real hero, or the real person who --
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jon: credit goes to the woman and good of you to give it to her right now. go ahead. >> yeah, she has some skills that i don't have. i'm not much of a computer person, but in my head i can think of what i wanted to do with this data to potentially reveal ship wrecks. she was able to take the data, we wrote the formulas she grafted it and -p all of all of a sudden these anomalies started sticking out. we could see where there was a nice a tphol le, a nomalaly. where we knew there was a shipwreck. >> jerry, congratulations and we'll check in with you again as you learn more about the wreck. >> okay. thanks so much. we hope to go out and get the bow on camera so we can see the name. okay, talk to you later. jon: all right, thank you, sir. jenna: we look forward to hearing more about that story.
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speaking of exploration a new space race is heating up. our space shuttle may have known for the last time but today china just launched. a live report next.
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jenna: china is celebrating a successful space launch today, the rocket blasting off with three chinese astronauts on board. china's president just returning from his meeting with president obama to watch this launch. it comes as morning's space program relies on russian rockets to carry our astronauts to the international space station. steve harrigan is live in miami with more on this. >> reporter: china has shown it can do something when it comes to space that the u.s. can no longer do, send up its own astronauts into space and keep them there. three chinese astronauts blasted off from the gobe desert, two
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men and one woman. this will be china's longest man spaced flight, two weeks in its entirety. most of the time the chinese astronauts will be on a module in space. it's in preparation for china's own space station. china through this achieve the is showing the world that it prepares to go-it-alone when it could manies to space. >> i this i that china is showing the world that it has the ability, it doesn't need other countries, that it's really not interested, necessarily in other countries, working with other countries, kpefp o except on its own terms. >> reporter: china has been able to increase its spending on spacex phroer ration year to year. we've seen increased cuts in the u.s. program. the shuttle of course ended in 2011. since then u.s. astronauts have had to hitch a ride from the russians to the international space station. the price of that ride has gone up from $65 million now to $70 million for a round trip and inventory creasing lee the u.s. is relying on the private sector
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foremanned space flights. already u.s. companies like space-x have shown the ability to send a cargo ship to the international space station. they say they will be able to by the year 2017 to send passengers there as well. jenna: steve harrigan live in miami. thank you. jon: has kobe bryant met his match? the toddler who put the nba star through the paces in a hoops showdown. [ male announcer ] this is kevin. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him,
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well, he is a youtube sensation, the toddler basketball phenom. you played some hoops in school. >> i did. yeah. >> anyway, took down shaquille and then he turned his attention to nba superstar kobe bryant facing up with him on the jimmy kimmel show. each got 30 seconds to shoot as many baskets as they could. kobe scored four. how did titus do? >> we have a tie. we have a titus. >> a titus. >> let's bring him into the studio. he can take you on. >> he's pretty good. i don't know if i could beat him, you know? >> that's great. >> very good. >> let's keep an eye on him. >> good coordination for a 4-year-old. >> very good. >> we'll see what happens to him. we'll be following him. >> more than i ask sink. >> thank you for joining us today. >> "america live" starts right
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now. fox's alert a global manhunt on the way for the high school dropout who orchestrated one of the biggest intel leaks in american history. welcome to "america live," i'm megyn kelly. he's checked out of his hotel in hong kong and we are waiting to hear from the state department on what it knows about snowden's whereabouts. this as we're learning more about his background. despite never finishing high school and dropping out of the army, he had access to some of the country's deepest secrets at the nsa where he originally worked as a security guard before moving to the cia in a series of career moves that would land him diplomatic cover and a high security clearance. while we wait for state, we want to bring in our host of power play on foxnews.com. chris, many are asking the question whatever you think of edward snowden, how is it

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