tv Studio B With Shepard Smith FOX News June 18, 2013 12:00pm-1:01pm PDT
>> people are tweeting about this like mad. and a lot of them, most of them, are on that guy's side. where do you stand? >> i want to know why he was standing in the drive-through. >> maybe he had to get out of his car to make sure. >> i used to work in a drivethrough. if they walked up, i locked the window. >> did you see the loon tack at dunkin' doughnut? >> why i don't go there use, the employees were the victim. >> she myth be at my dunkin'. >> go to the drive-through. >> and don't walk. >> shepard: news begins anew on "studio b." the man that heads one of the most secretive agencies in all the world, forced to testify in capitol hill and defend a once classified surveillance program but the nsa leaker says the
administration is exaggerating its success and he has documents to prove it. plus, the white house getting ready for its first ever direct talks with the taliban. that group responsible for giving al qaeda a safe haven after the attacks of 9/11, and toasting all the pregnant ladies. a controversial new study reports, it's okay to get your drink on. a little bit. all ahead unless breaking news changes everything. on "studio b." >> first from fox at 3:00 in new york city, the nation's top security chief testified those government programs to track our phone records and what we do online have helped the feds foil not one but 50 potential terror attacks since 9/11. general keith alexander, the director of the nsa, spoke at rare open hearing in front of he house intelligence committee today. officials said some of the foiled plots targeted the new york stock exchange and the subway city and the office of a
newspaper that published cartoons depicting the prophet mohammad. >> these programs were approved by the administration, congress, and the courts. from my perspective, a sound legal process that we all work together as a government to protect our nation and civil liberties and privacy. >> shepard: general alexander added this type of surveillance helped investigators connect the dots. one lawmaker wondered whether the programs were actually essential in thwarting the plot. >> i hope you'll elucidate for us, case-by-case, how many stopped terrorist attacks were those programs, 215, essential to. >> i think you ask an almost impossible question to say how important each dot was. what i can tell you is, post 9/11, i don't recognize the fbi i came into 26 years ago. our mission is to stop terrorism, prevent it. >> shepard: president obama
called the surveillance program transparent in an interview with charlie rose last night. transparent, even though the court that approved the program does most of its work in secreted. catherine herridge is live in d.c. those officials revealed some more about how that's affects american citizens. >> well, shep, one of the most telling exchanges to get the content of american phone records and internet traffic you need a national security court to sign off. >> does the nsa read the e-mails of american citizens. >> same answer. >> does the nsa read the text messages of american citizens. >> again, we do not target the content of u.s. personal communications without a specific airporter in on -- specific anywhere on the earth. >> they don't have to have a court order for the phone records. that is a group of small managers in the nsa. critics say the him in could be abused. supporters say there's nothing
to wore about because no names or addresses are at least initially attached to the phone record. >> there's more to the plots the feds broke up. >> one case citedded to as a victory for the nsa program is that of david headley, an american citizen, who pro plotted to kill a danish car couldn'tist in 2009. what witnesses did not volunteer to lawmaker is headley's connection to the mumbai terrorist attack and headley's trip to india between 2006 and 2008 were miss bid the u.s. intelligence community, and within the last hour a statement from republican congressman and the ranking democrat, john conyers, who are introducing legislation to limit the collection of phone records and to force secret national security court opinions to be public. reason, in part, quote, we're a proud to be a broad bipartisan coalition. shouldn't matter whether you're a democrat or republican.
defending the constitution and protecting american rights should be an effort we can all support, and similar legislation was tabled in the senate by senators udall and wide 'next. >> shepard: now the former director or strategy, mike barrett, also a former intelligence officer for the office of the secretary of defense. good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> shepard: i'm guessing critics agree these programs, this tapping program, is helpful, but i'm not sure it goes to the point of whether rights are being violated. i'm not sure that all critics would say, i'm good to go now. >> i understand that, shep, but you got to keep in mind we have executive branch, legislate tv branch, and judicial branch approval. so this is not a rogue person or members of one of the three branches of government thinking this is justified based on the threat information they received. it's all three branches. this is a democracy. we have the right to ask questions. i'm glad we have the right to
have this bee bait in public but the fact of the matter the threat is significant enough that a significant number of people who are there but -- whether appointed or elected -- decided that this is a legitimate approach to trying to stop the threat. >> shepard: those who argue under constitutional grounds might make the argument that just by virtue of the fact they're keeping and it not looking at it, doesn't mean their collecting it smooth some day a problem for those from whom they have collected it. what if at some point at later date this items are used in violation of our rights? the question is whether they have a right to collect them at all? could they put cam florida our houses and not turn them on until there's a pacific threat? under this logic many might suggest they could. >> what you're making is the slippery slope argument which is legitimate, but i think at the end of the day we have to say, how significant is the risk on the one hand and how significant the risk that people will violate the trust they're given by the american public as their
duly elected officials. people at the nsa and other branches of the government. so, for example, we allow police officers to carry weapons. i would love to live in a world where police officers don't have to be armed and we would never have to worry about somebody being shot by mistake. the reality is there's enough threat and crime, the police officers flood to be not only carling pistols but in some cases automatic weapons. as society changes, we continue to evolve, what we're saying is, when you look at the threat information, you realize that the potential grave, serious harm to loss of life, outweighs this notion that we should never have any information stored at all. >> all right, mike, it's an interesting argument. it's a good thing we're having the debate. it seems right and proper and the president agrees. >> yahoos is recording u.s. law enforcement agencies made 13,000 requests for data between
december 1, 2012, and may 31, this year. according to yahoo, the most common request involved fraud, murder, kidnapping, and other criminal investigations. it al reports that other requests involved foreign intelligence facebook, microsoft, and apple have already disclosed the number of d requests they received. so not everybody is about terrorism. >> lawmakers in the house taking 'the first and most controversial of four immigration bills now. it's known as safe act. among other things it would allow states to pass their own immigration laws, and enable local police to act as immigration officers. while it's a crime to enter the country illegally this bill would make it a federal crime if somebody stays beyond his or her series sample supporters say it would discourage future illegal immigrants from entering the country in the first place. opponents argue it would turn millions 0 illegal immigrants into criminals overnight,
leading to racial profiling. mike, this one -- what is the pitch for this particular bill? how are they making the case? reporter: well, shep, the argument for it is if you trust state and local authorities to investigate and then prosecute crimes as serious as murder, why not get them involved in immigration, violations? there's congressman trey gowdy making his case. >> the overwhelming majority of criminal offenses are prosecuted by the men and women of local district attorney offices, and the overwhelming majority of issues are resolved by state and local judges. we trust them with prosecuting child sex abuse cases, drug traffic, burglary, surely we can trust them to enforce immigration laws. >> gowdy told his colleagues, if you don't like the bill, don't vote for it, but whatever you end up supporting, make sure it is enforced. >> shepard: an emotional response coming into this, not
unsurprisingly. >> there were several disruptions at today's how judiciary committee hearing. definitely an emotional reaction. ultimately to the folks were escort it out by capitol police. but those against the safe act have done a pretty good job of putting a human face on those who would be prosecuted if this were to become law. >> in my particular case, they're the people that my daughter's brought home for dinner. they're my daughter's friends. they're part of our community. we sit in the same pews with them. we play in the say play lot with them. we work in the same communities with them. don't criminalize them. >> congressman goutieres is one of 25 house democrats to meet with john boehner tomorrow where we expect immigration reform is one of the topics. boehner says he is not looking just for republican support. he wants bipartisan buyin on an immigration reform bill in the
house. >> now the foreign policy challenge that is syria. the president said again today that syria's president has to go. that -- russia's president says his country may give more weapons to bashar al-assad and a regime kiming its own people. it's making for tense talks during the trip overseas. and later, teenage traveler says airport workers humiliating her, saying this outfit was too skimpy. that outfit. so when did the ts get to make such decisions? with thousands standing around. that's coming up. [ female announcer ] it's simple physics...
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ireland. >> it's important to move toward a political transition inside of syria, to built a strong opposition that can function in a post assad world. >> even russia, one of syria's most powerful allies, backs the call for peace talks. still there are signs the relationship between the united states and russia is very tense. one day after the president met with the russian president vladimir putin, look at this picture. they look like best of buds-don't they? keep in mind, the white house revealed less than a week ago it had confirmed the syrian regime unleashed deadly chemical weapons on its own people but putin said they have no facts and he assuresou that far from everybody in the g8 believes they have been used. last week the obama administration vowed to ramp up military support to the rebels. the united nations estimates
more than 90,000 people have died in the civil war. are we hearing anymore specifics about what we are doing in this civil war? >> no shep, is the short answer. that is confusing. last week, the white house kind of billed this as an important policy shift of president obama, stepping up and helping the rebels in syria, but never gave details can the heavy arms that senator john mccain and others said would be pivotal to turn this around. president adding a little confusion, doing an interview with charlie rose and insisting this is not a policy shift. take a listen. >> let me turn to syria. define the new policy that you're articulating with respect to syria, and why now? >> i'm not sure you can characterize this as a new policy. this is consistent with the policy i have had throughout. >> so this puts more pressure on
the president to explain exactly how deeply the u.s. is getting into what has become a proxy war in syria with iran, russia and others on the one side, the u.s. and its alis on -- allies on the other. the president has a news cop friend tomorrow. >> the russians are now apparently onboard with the idea of peace talks. is that to suggest the russians might be able to help push assad get there and make peace happen? >> the u.s. has to be skeptical. vladimir putin, the russians, have been sending arms to president assad, clearly been on his side. the u.s., though, nonetheless is hopeful that ultimately what putin will want is stability in the region. doesn't want to see this explode out of control. and that eventually putin will support peace talks in geneva, litten to president putin. >> translator: al of us are happy to stop the violence in syria, stop the growth of -- and
to solve the situation peacefully. >> but the bottom line is your hey president putin through a translator saying all the right things about wanting to bring peace, but the communique you mentioned that president obama was touting about what the g8 leader were saying, it was watered down in part because putin blocked the other seven leaders from including a call for assad to step down. so it raises questions about how serious he is about bringing peace. >> ed henry, live at the white house, thanks. >> don't you love 7-eleven. the only place where you can get both a drink filled with air and a taquito. the person who sold you that last slurpey may have been working against their will, and prosecutors tell us what the discovered inside the 7-eleven walls look like something from the days of slavery.
>> shepard: another in the ongoing stories of tsa greatness. a teenage girl says a tsa agent in los angeles humiliated her over what she was hearing and here is the horrifying outfit. her father says the agent criticized her for having this, leggings, a tank top and a button down shirt. >> he was glaring at my daughter and mumbling, and my daughter is like, excuse me in and he said, you're only 15. cover yourself up. >> shepard: good grief. the dad says the family has filed a complaint with the transportation securities administration, and that his supervisor told them the agency has a zero tolerance policy for this type of behavior. not the clothing. the agent. tsa told is we regret this passenger had an unpleasant
experience and are in the process of -- [laughter] >> just trying to think of everytime you had an unpleasant experience and they send out a memo, all they'd do is send out memos. might be more productive. >> several poors accusing 7-eleven of running a, quote, modern day plantation system. they say at least nine store owners and managers have made tens of millioned of dollars by giving fake identities to dozen illegal immigrants, then forcing them to work hours on end for little pay and living in unregulated boarding houses. the feds say they raided 14 stores in virginia and long island, arresting the owners and managers. the group used stolen security number, including those of a dead child and three other dead people to pay illegal immigrants from pakistan and the philippines and then steal up to 75% of those wages. >> oh, my god. that's terrible.
i come here every day and i know all the guys that work here, very nice people. i can't believe it. i can't believe it. that's crazy. >> prosecutors say among the people agents arrested is a married couple oblong island originally from pakistan and they own most of the stores. the investigation is expanding to 40 other 7-elevens across seven states high lighted here in yellow. a spokesman for 7-eleven says it is cooperating with authorities and will aggressively odd the employment status of all of its workers. our legal analyst and fox news contributor, arthur is with us. slave labor is really what the allegation here is. that they gave them these illegal documents and then robbed them of their pay. >> right. what the u.s. attorney also said in her press conference was that they were willing participants. >> shepard: doesn't matter. >> no legally, opportunity matter. it's not like slave labor where they didn't want to be there. but how this case unfolded was
two guys went up to -- one went to a state police officer, one to a police officers saying i have been welcoming all this time and they're not paying me. the process goes back to 2000, with a chain as big as 7-eleven, they had no internal checks of their almost 10,000 stores, whether -- >> shepard: 7-eleven doesn't own all the stores. some are opened by individual franchiseees. >> yes, but got to go back to the mother ship and they were going back to the mother ship with the exact same social security numbers from three or four different people, and 7-eleven never picked up on it. so, the fraud was blatant, obvious. ujust had to do a minor investigation and you could see it. and what was happening they were putting in payroll for x amount of dollars, the owners were keeping a majority of it and giving a member amount of money to the workers, and they were giving them some form of housing that wag -- that was probably
inappropriate and inadequate. holding them without bail right now which is not typical of this type of fraud investigation. >> shepard: i want to back to the beginning of this conversation. you said, they were willing participants. >> i didn't say that. the prosecutor said that. i didn't. >> they don't have documents so in exchange for the documents you're going work in a slave-like fashion for us. i'm guessing that is the reason they've not given them bond, because they have done what they said they've done, they have in >> the owners -- these >> shepard: don't have enough money to get housing. they can't get another job. they don't have documents. they stuck there. >> the owners of the 7-eleven have all the leverage. these people need -- again, shepard, that is what the prosecutor said. you must understand, a lot of these people come from countries where the minimum amount of money they're making at 7-eleven, they're take caring of
a whole family. >> shepard: we have rules about highing. >> they're in big trouble. haven't been granted bail. >> that one 7-eleven looks familiar. i tell you, the 7-elevenssen long island, if you need help around your yard, they'll stand around out there on the weekend and you pay them to help you in the yard. i thought this is what this was orangely about. who knew they were doing this inside. >> people who are actually working and putting the ice in the bags and -- >> shepard: i think a taquito and a big gulp slurpee is six bucks. they can afford pay them. >> flay will now and this is a big warning sign across mrs.. that if 7-eleven gets caught, the mom and pop stores will get caught, too, and better wake up. >> shepard: thank you, arthur. analysts say the u.s. could get its hands on the guy who says he
leaked those top secret surveillance documents but won't be easy. whether a form of kidnapping could be the next move. really? >> look at this. this is not turkey. this is brazil now. the same nation that is supposed to host to the 2016 summer olympics and next year0s world cup. looks fascinating. that unrest coming up as we approach the bottom of the shower the top of the news on "studio b." [ male announcer ] running out of steam? ♪ now you can give yourself a kick in the rear! v8 v-fusion plus energy. natural energy from green tea plus fruits and veggies. need a little kick? ooh! could've had a v8. in the juice aisle.
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intelligence world needs a cleanup on aisle 9. how the charm of the house intelligence committee mike rogers describes the leaks. just yesterday the self-professed leaker, ed snowden, suggests he has no plans to leave hong kong. the british newspaper "guardian," said he answered questions, writing over a couple hour period. the u.s. government can't cover this up by jailing or murdering me. snowden said he had more information to leak. so how can usual officials seek justice? the analysts point out the feds have engaged in forms of kidnapping us. julian is with us from the -- professor of law for the international program of hofstra university school of law. kidnapping? is that the right word for this?
>> they like to use the word abduction but it's kidnapping. picking him off the street and bringing him back to the u.s. >> shepard: there's a delay. >> even if they did abduct them, which could be illegal in some countries, it wouldn't prevent them from trying him in the united states. i they capture him and bring him back, the courts have held it doesn't make a difference. >> you can send in a crew of people, maybe some special forces or some spooks or something and, boom, pick him up and,way away we go? >> people who they really want, really willing to take risk for. so, for instance, guy they thought killed a u.s. drug enforcement agent. they abducted him in mexico. or in past years, israel many years ago abduct it nazis in argentina. usually only extreme cases would this be tried because obviously it causes problems.
shepard smith to you as on on server feel like this might rise to that level? >> i can't really tell. i mean, it's not quite because he is -- not like he is about to kill someone or kill lots of people. usually that's when you -- or he has killed someone in that circumstance he has a nuclear launch code, get him. about if you don't reach that level, i'm not sure such extreme action is necessary. >> the government makes the case that, because of this action, our safety has been harmed, but to be fair here the government always says that when some of its secrets get out. >> yeah. i mean, look. they obviously have opportunity this in the past. usually for terrorists or people who they're about to kill a u.s. citizen. i don't think reached that point unless he has something dangerous on his hard drive. >> good to see you, sir. >> thank you.
>> shepard: more than ten years after the war in afghanistan, president obama's administration is set to start direct talks with the taliban. the taliban are 'opening offices for the purposes. negotiation are said to begin in a few days. so, good. uh-huh. the taliban are the former hard-line rulers of afghanistan, gave appreciation to osama bin laden, allowed al qaeda to use bases in afghanistan to launch attacks in 9/11. we're told president obama was personally involved in the opening of the taliban new political office. officials say they will push the taliban to break ties with al qaeda, end the violence, accept the constitution, including protection for women' minorities. the announcement comes hours after the afghan government forces took over responsibility for national security from a u.s.-led night to coalition. the fox report's jonathan hunt has been following through. we not about the taliban, how
they feel about sequim the united states. now we're negotiating with them and peace should ben us. >> we know they are still the in the process right now, extremist elements, of the taliban, of attacking u.s. troops still in afghanistan, but most experts would point out that most wars come to an end through a negotiated political solution, and that is what u.s. officials say has to happen here. with some very clear conditions put out for the taliban to adhere to. listen. >> most notably our concerns about taliban connections to international terrorism, and we're in afghanistan, as you well know, because the attack against the united states on 9/11 was manned there by al qaeda, under shelter offered by the taliban. an important focus for our meetings with the taliban will be' for them to completely and very identify my break with terrorism. >> and president obama himself said at the g8 summit in northern ireland today, this is
the first step, long process, and he anticipates there will be many bumps in the road as he put it. >> shepard: makes sense. we're 12 years into this thing in afghanistan. this who do the observing on this matter, is it there sense we left at it better place? >> i talked to mark jacobson today about this. he is a combat vet from afghanistan. also nato deputy representative for afghanistan for a couple of years. he says, yes, we are leaving it in a better place in the sense that we have designated the taliban. we -- decimated the taliban, giving them problems in staging attacks. they do not the power, he believes to take over the country now. he also says there are now two very important states -- steps the afghan people and government must take, listen. >> first, they must have successful and -- elections next year viewed as fair by the afghan people. and secondly, there must
continue to be this battle against corruption. without a free and fair election in the eyes of the afghanistan peek, -- afghan people and without an assault on corruption, then all the gains made the security arena will prove to be efemoral. >> ow and fair elections and assault on corruption. a lot of people say those or two very bill ifs. >> they're down to one cash crop, opium, and that supplies 90% of the world. much of the top soil is gone in the wake of the wars and tearing up the ground, and history tells us that after we left there in 1990, the taliban came right back in. >> the opium trade drives a lot of this and there's all these war lords in afghanistan. the soviets found after they left, after their invasion in 1979 afghanistan went straight back to the way it was before this: the brits tried to change
afghanistan and it went straight back to the way it was above. a lot of people'm would say, push on. >> shepard: fascinating. thank you. don't grew the chunnel again. protesters in brazil are planning to hit the streets following what are said to be some of the largest demonstration necessary country in decades. some of the processes clearly turned violence last night as what is described as hundreds of thousands of people upset over government spending, rallied across the nation. demonstrators in rio stormed the steps of the state legislature building, setting fire and fighting with cops. reports indicate at least 20 officers and nine demonstrators were hurt. all of this is happening at brazil is set to host the federation cup, soccer tournament. lead ares say it's raising security concerns for other up coming events, including a visit from the pope, and then the world cup next year, and then in
2016, the olympics in rio. steve hardpan -- steve harry began covers that part of the world. >> the spark that set off the protests was something very small, a ten cent increase on the price of a bus ticket. this upset students and the police response made things worse. they used rubber bullets to quiet things down. brought out more crowds. there's some -- jung lining anger again the government spending billions for the olympics and the world cup when you have overcrowded schools. the president says these protests have helped brazil become a stronger nation. >> thank you, sir. >> a single protester has drawn a lot of attention in turkey. where recent violent demonstrations have challenged the government's authority
there. that protester, the guy on the right here, in white shirt, stood alone in istanbul's square for hours lastneath, completely still, tearing at the portrait of the leader who founded turkey as a secular state now 90 years ago. word quickly spread and hundreds of people showed up to see it for themes the man's demonstration came after turkey's government banned gatherings at the square at the center of recent protests. moms to be have long heard that alcohol can hurt the baby. but a new study could change that thinking. and wait until you hear just how much wine scientists say might be safe for you, the pregnant mom, to drink. >> a teenager who kept his cool even as a shark chomped on his leg.
it's okay for expecting moms to have a glass of wine a day, and it won't hurt the baby one bit. that's according to i guess a controversy new study. researchers looked at data born in 1990s and they concluded the children of mothers who drank moderately, up to seven drinks a week, develop just as well as children of moms who did not drink. u.s. health officials say there is no amount of alcohol known to be safe blah blah blah. mayo clinic says drinking may
result in birth defects called fetal alcohol syndrome. the new study from the uk could spark debate whether pregnant mothers should be drinking at all. the study is almost encouraging drinking. >> it is, because the study isn't just saying that moderate drinking won't harm babies. the study is saying moderate drinking well actually help babies and they tested by taking these ten-year-olds and testing their balance, and all the kids who performed better on the balance beam, their mothers drank moderately. the dids who didn't perform as well, their mothers drank too much or didn't drink at all. but dr. manny alvarez says hold on one minute. listen. >> you have a catchy headline that says alcohol may be beneficial to your pregnancy, and in reality, it's, no, that's not -- that should not be the
message. the message is if you happen to have a glass of wine with your dinner in an otherwise healthy environment, you don't have to worry about it. this -- there's no negative impact on that. >> and also as a footnote, the kids who performed better on the balance beam, their fathers also drank moderately during their wife's pregnancy. how it fits in, i don't know. >> shepard: a balance beam is to decide the course of human events in good grief, britain. >> yeah. a balance beam and then they tested them on theground as well. they tested them blind-folded on the balance beam. and here's the thing. this has a big catch. the problem is, all the women who either drank a lot during pregnancy or didn't drink as all, they were from lower economic households and those who drank moderately were from upper to middle class households so the doctors are sag they had social advantages anyway, so maybe none of this has to do
with the alcohol and all has to do with the fact that these kids come from better house holed, better schools, they perform better. maybe it's not about the alcohol and all about your social status. >> shepard: it's not usual live what i inform after a lengthy report of two minutes. in this case i might say just ignore everything we said in the last two minutes. do you think? >> yeah. good advice. >> good, trace. a brave 15-year-old boy is in the hospital. this kid fought off a shark and had not been drinking moderately. happened yesterday afternoon in waist deep water on the gulf. police say the shark bit the teen not once but twice. once on the left leg, once on the left hand, and local cops say this is the first shark attack within the city limits in 25 years. it's not clear how the boy is feeling today. officials at a local hospital in houston say the boy's family
wants privacy but he was brave, the shark came back around for another bite and the emergency worker said he was calming me down. i want this 15-year-old kid in my family. >> a man accuses four young boys of tearing apart his father-in-law0s home, causing tens of thousands of dolls in damage. now he is the one in trouble. we religion -- we'll talk to him live next. hi. i'm henry winkler.
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>> this guy is in trouble. we're hearing from a man who says he busted four young vandals trash his father-in-law's empty home. yet he finds himself in hot water with the cops. they report yesterday that the man in upstate new york says he caught the eight and ten-year-old boys ripping apart the walls with hammers, smashing the windows and fixtures.
the guy put the kid tuesday in a closet, holding the eight-year-old and ten-year-old in the closet until the cops could get there now because of that he is facing child endangerment charges. he says he and his father-in-law were remodeling the home. jesse daniel joins us, along with his lawyer. good to see you both. thank you. >> good afternoon, mr. smith. >> jesse, what did you do to these boys? >> well, when i walked into the home, i just immediately grabbed the hammer from one of the youths, and startled them, and they all looked at me and dropped their hammers and the first thing i could do was suggest for them to go into this closet while -- >> shepard: suggest? >> while my dad was calling the police. >> shepard: you suggested it to them? >> yes, said would you guys please go in the closet wheel my wife is calling the cops because the police are on their way.
>> i do not doubt you because i don't know you that sounds weird. if i weren in an in-law's house and four-under chins had broken in, please would not be in my current vocabulary. >> it was a little bit more than please. it was -- >> family saying he has a mark on his arm and they're getting these charges. what is that? >> these marks these children had, mr. smith, were actually created from shards of glass, ceramic fixtures, they were completely covered in oil based lacquer paint, where they actually tried to ignite the house and god forbid this they didn't because they would have been torch evidence right there. when the showed me these cuts i assured them they were that dangerous and that the prognosis -- police will tend to them.
>> if i had been one of the eight and ten-year-olds my dad would have attended to me and the marks would have been much more severe. counselor, i'm guessing your opinion is they protect in the house and tide tens of thousands of dollars in damage and my client is in trouble? >> in new york we have laws that protect home owners and people have a right to be on a premises when they encounter people committing a burglary, attempting to commit a burglary, damaging premises, my client acted completely response my. contacted the police right away. he did nothing to those boys other than briefly detain them, and the fact that he has been placed under arrest and charged with miami miamis -- misdemeanors is astonishing. >> hope you've get the house become together. i hear it's a bit of a mess. >> it is a mess and thank you very much, mr. smith. >> you bet. >> shepard: we'll check in on the dow and toss it over in a
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