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one of the most highly charged cases to hit the courts since o'jay simpson's murder trial. well come to "american life." i'm megan kelly. with less than 72 hours to go, we are awaiting one more critical ruling at any point from the judge in the george zimmerman/trayvon martin trial. zimmerman has been a self-described neighborhood watchman that admitted to killing an unarmed teenager but he says he was acting in self-defense. before the trial kicks off on monday, the judge has to decide whether she is going to allow experts to testify about screams heard during a 911 call the night trayvon martin died. this is turning out to be a crucial part of the case. here is part of the call. listen in the background.
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do you need police, fire or medical? >> maybe both. i'm not sure. there's just someone screaming outside. i can't see him. i don't know what's going on. >> that tape is coming in but will the expert testimony about the tape come in? phil keating, live in miami. >> if these jurors are allowed to hear expert audio analysis testifying as to who zimmerman or martin is making the screams for help, that could prove decisive in the jury decision to acquit george zimmerman. it could be by 5:00 today or over the weekend or might be very early monday morning right before opening statements. inside the courtroom today, the very final pre-trial hearing in this case. just attorneys, the media and the judge who weighed in on what
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inflammatory language prosecutors will be able to use in their opening statements. the defense wanted her to prohibit six terms, including this zimmerman racially profile trayvon martin. the state objected. >> there are a number of ways a person can be profiled. they can be profiled about their age, dress, car they drive, location and timing they are in a certain place. so that is not a racially charged term unless it is made so. we don't intend to make it a racially charged term. >> so we will not hear monday morning the term racially profiled but the judge will allow the words profiled, vigilante, wannabe cop and the phrase, he confronted trayvon martin ruling that is essentially the state's case. after the jury was seated without a single black juror on the panel, the parents of trayvon martin released this statement, quote, this case has always been about equal justice, equal justice under the law is
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not a black value or a white value. it is an american value. zimmerman's attorney says his client is eager for monday morning after living in hiding essentially for the past 16 months. he will now finally have his day in court. >> phil keatinging, thank you we now know more about the jury, all six are women, five are white, one is hispanic. that is sparking some controversy. we will speak live to a jury consultant who was in the zimmerman courtroom for every part of this jury selection. wait until you hear the details she has on these jurors. you have not heard them yet but you will right here in just a bit. we also have breaking news on a murder in massachusetts. conflicting reports on whether there is an arrest warrant out for nfl football star, aaron hernandez. sources tell us that hernandez
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is wanted for obstructing the investigation into the murder of 27-year-old odon lloyd. we have been unable to confirm that. there are other reports saying explicitly, it is not true. his body was found, lloyd's was, in an industrial area about a mile from his home. in the last days, people have been searching hernandez' home and the surrounding area. sources tell fox that they were spotted together on the night lloyd was murdered and hernandez may have been caught on tape with the murder victim before his murder. hernandez' neighbors reported hearing gunshots that night. the man died of several gunshots. a video surveillance system at hernandez' home was reportedly seriously damaged when the police arrived. this is a developing story. we are going to take a closer look at it. reports about his cell phone and attempts to clean up what may be a crime scene and much, much more in just a moment.
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in a developing story out of washington where we are learning the details of a program, a federal government program that encourages federal workers to spy on each other, basically, to spy on their co-workers and to report to the boss if they see anything suspicious. we are not talking about, okay, it looks like what's his name, edwards, is downloading documents he shouldn't. we are talking about coworkers who may be under stress, have financial problems, frustration with their other coworkers. this is the stuff that now barack obama wants federal employees to start reporting to their supervisors about, with respect to their other employees. why? why would he want that? joining me now, chris, the host of power play on if you see warning signs in these federal agencies of
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stress, divorce, financial problems, frustrations with coworkers or with the organization, these in the eyes of our federal government pursuant to its insider threat initiative are cause for you to go rat out your employee to your boss and if you don't, you could get in trouble? this is new? >> well, this is a report from the mcclatchy newspapers. they looked across the different agencies and found in the national security apparatus where you would expect a lot of this kind of stuff going on. somebody is looking twitchy and downloading some stuff into a thumb drive to take to hong kong, you might want to say something but that this sort of behavior patterning about leaking and about leak and behaviors that might lead to
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leak applied to the peace corp, department of agriculture where you would think treason and those kind of leaks would not be possible. >> frustrations with coworkers. if you and i worked together and i'm like, stirewalt is really off his game. i don't know about that analysis. if we did that at the federal government level now, the person receiving that comment from me might have to go report to the boss, hey, kelly, kelly is frustrated with stirewalt, she is expressing frustrations with a co-worker. if that colleague doesn't, they could be in trouble. >> in that case, i would snitch on you first if i thought you were frustrated with me. i would totally rat you out. i would call eric holder and say, she is a risk, this woman is a threat, get her out of it. >> she would say, we've known that for a long time. >> we've already got her stuff. it is cool.
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the truth is how this works out probably ends up being ripe for abuse. that's the concern anyway from whistle blower groups is that not only will this keep people from saying what needs to be said to the press but also inside the organization, people won't feel free to express themselves. they won't feel free to question abuses. they won't feel free to say anything. now, you have this standard that says, well, you don't want to act like you are a potential inside threat, internal threat. if you do that, that could be bad for your career. >> this isn't the first time. they don't learn so well sometimes, chris. the white house got in trouble in 2009 because they put out this alert to people saying, if one of your neighbors reports something that sounds fishy about obama care, you need to report it. send it to
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if you get an e-mail or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to they got killed in the press for asking neighbors to snitch on neighbors about stuff that sounded fishy about health care reform. now, it is not neighbor versus neighbor. it is colleague against colleague in the federal government. >> as if it was not bad enough to be mired in the depths of the federal bureaucracy. department of agriculture, layer upon layer of bureaucracy. this is not a place full of high job satisfaction. when you add into that, you need to be watching your coworkers and they need to be watching you less the you be leaking, that is not going to make life a lot happier for the folks that are regulating arugala. >> two years after the 2009 thing, they did it again with the attack.comwebsite sponsored by the obama campaign, asking people to report information,
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the truth squad. this raised so many eyebrows that they actually prepared a parody of it mocking the attack watch from the obama campaign. here is a bit of what they did. >> is where can report an attack on president obama. if you heard a friend spreading rumors, let us know. atam watc attack watch. >> they have been mocked repeatedly. here they go again. >> secrets are dangerous. leaks are dangerous. paranoia, that is what's really dangerous. if you get a point where a government is so para nowed about leaks and so paranoid about those things, it starts to fog dow bog down. they have these scandals where they say, who said what, who
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knows what, you get to a point where a government freezes up because it can't function because they are so worried about who is leaking what to whom. >> if i worked at the federal government, you know what i would be doing, calling up about james clapper? if you are playing my james clapper bite, you want to know somebody who is under stress and has got frustration, not wittingly. here is exhibit a, mr. president. i am sure there would be accountability. stay tuned. thanks, chris. >> happy friday. well, new details today on exactly why a new england patriots player finds himself tied to a murder investigation. right after this break, the story about the surveillance system, the cell phone, and the crime scene and why they have police looking much more closely at aaron hernandez closely. we told you yesterday about one of the boston bombers now being memorialized by this anti-gun group as a victim of
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gun vile lep violence, the guy that bombed boston and shot to death a police officer, memorialized as a gun violence victim. he is not the only one. wait until you see who else is on this list being used as propaganda. >> new questions about whether the fbi is dragging its feet into the investigation targeting conservative groups as we hear new questions about the relationship between one of the tax agency's top staffers, mr. shulman. remember all the times he went to visit the white house. he wasn't the only one. wait until you hear how many times his chief of staff decided to walk over to 1600 pennsylvania. what were they doing? >> what would be some of the reasons you might be at the white house? >> the easter egg roll with my kids, questions about the
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fox news alert out of pass mass. we have received conflicting reports on whether police have issued an arrest warrant for patriots tight end, aaron hernandez. "usa today" is reporting that according to the district court, no arrest warrant has been issued yet. nothing in the court record to suggest this according to the district court in the relevant jurisdiction. there have been reports earlier this morning he was going to get arrested for obstruction of justice. there were reports yesterday he was about to get arrested for murder. right now, no arrest warrant has been issued. he is at the center of the investigation of the murder of 27-year-old odin lloyd. mr. lloyd's body was found in an
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industrial park less than a mile from mr. hernandez' home, he is a big football for the new england patriots. this area has been the focus of an intense police search. they are reporting that odin lloyd was killed. where the body was found was new information. originally, they suggested he was killed some place else and the body jumped there. joining me rod wheeler, former homicide detective and a fox news contributor. good to see you again. to me, the most explosive reports we have heard have originated with abc news, which reported that this surveillance system at mr. hernandez' home, the hard drives, we're being told, had allegedly been destroyed, that mr. hernandez' his lawyers to the prosecution. that also had been destroyed. then, we'll get to the possible cleanup of what may be a crime scene. let's just start with the surveillance system, the
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security system and the cell phone and your thoughts. >> with the security system and the cell phone, megyn, that's where the obstruction of justice comes in. if there is critical evidence on either one of those devices and the police believes there is some evidence on those devices and it is knowingly that this person or someone has damaged these devices, clearly, that's obstruction of justice. there is obviously, megyn, something on those tapes that hernandez or somebody affiliated with hernandez, does not want the police investigators to find out about. that's where the obstruction of justice is going to come in today hopefully as the form of a warrant. >> there are conflicting reports. one neighbor reportedly heard gunshots at his house on the night in question. the boston globe is reporting that the decedent was shot and murdered at the industrial park where his body was found. so if they are trying to set this up for aaron hernandez as the defendant, as the murderer
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in this case, how do you square those two reports? >> well, obviously, it could have happened either way. he could have possibly been shot at mr. hernandez' home and then maybe the body taken to where it was dumped and then maybe shot again. we don't know that. the police don't know that yet. the police may know that. let me tell you why. i found this very interesting after reading published reports. there was a rental car, megan, that was also recovered, not far from where the body was found. this rental car supposedly, according to published reports, had been rented by hernandez. why would hernandez leave a rental car not far from the body if he had nothing to do with it. there is going to be more evidence that we haven't heard about that's probably going to come out in the form of forensic evidence such as blood and things like that. time will tell exactly what they have. i think all of that is going to clearly play a role in this investigation. >> as somebody who used to investigate homicides for a living, rod, tell us what they are doing. the average citizen is saying, obviously, they are tightening the noose around the neck of mr.
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hernandez as a potential suspect. they seem to be really focused in on him. yet, no arrests. they are taking their time. what are they doing, do you think, behind the scene? >> here is what's going on right now. that's why we have heard conflicting reports already, that maybe there has been an arrest warrant issued, maybe there hasn't been. what i believe is happening is that the investigators up there in the boston area are putting together the case. there was two other individuals, megyn, that were with mr. hernandez and mr. lloyd at the bar on sunday night, early monday morning. these two individuals were stopped and questioned this past tuesday fanned you notice, we haven't heard much more about these two people. the question remains now, what are they telling law enforcement? i think right now, like i said, they are putting together this case. i honestly believe, megyn, within the next 24 hours, we are going to start seeing some substantial movement in this case. >> that's a good point about the other two guys. where have they been?
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if they aren't directly involved, they are probably singing like canaries, don't you think? >> being an attorney yourself for many years, you know that's the way it works. typically, what we do as investigators, we'll get those folks that have something or have some knowledge about what could have happened, we will take those folks aside and hide those folks and get information. we'll go to the prosecutor and get the warrant. within a matter of days, we typically arrest that person. that's what's going on with these other two individuals right now. >> we will see what, if anything, is recoverable from the destroyed hard drives. the cell phone, maybe you can get rid of pictures. you can't get rid of phone records. certainly, the low okcators. nearly four years after the ft. hood massacre, the judge has finally set a trial date. one of the ft. hood survivors who says, he is out of patience with this entire process and is very unhappy with the government
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a scare in the air as two planes loaded with passengers come within 200 feet of each other. take a look at this video. a group of men looking up, because something incredible is about to happen. we will show you what it was next.
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an incredible rescue caught on tape showing the value have o being at the right place at the wrong timt. a group of delivery men spot a 2-year-old girl tajjidangle fro window in china. they put themselves in a perfect position right before the little girl lose's her grip and plunges down from the fifth floor. right into the out stretched arms of the men who break her fall and save her life. look at this.
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the child suffered a bruise on her face and that was it. two of the rescuers were also hurt. this can be dangerous for them, for the folks down below. you can see. not seriously. wow. good for them. thank goodness they were there. new details emerging about a close call in the skies above new york city. the faa says two planes loaded with passengers came way too close to one another. we have the details in the "newsroom." laura? >> we are still waiting to find out exactly how close these two planes came. one thing is for sure. if it is close enough to involve the faa, with e know this is no good. this happened at 2:40 p.m. above the skies at john f. kennedy and laguardia. a delta airlines boeing 747 came dangerously close to a shuttle america e-170 taking off from
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laguardia. in a statement released today, the federal aviation administration says the two aircrafts were turning away from each other at the point where they lost the required separation. both aircraft landed safely. tower control audio between the aircraft controller and delta pilot released today gives us a glimpse into the moment when the problem was flagged. the controller is heard saying, delta, 171 heavy, traffic, 12:00, 1,400 feet. embraer, 1600 feet. the pilot responds, okay, we've got them on the fish finder here. the controller says, okay, he is eastbound at 1800 feet. the fish finder is the equipment used to alert pilots that another plane is in the area and getting close. faa regulations require commercial planes be separated aby at least three miles or 1,000 feet. these type of air proximity
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incidents are routinely investigated by the faa. there were 102 reported near mid-air collisions in 2011. it does happen. you never want to hear about these sorts of things going on. >> no, you don't. you really don't. i share with the viewers, the one thing that brings me comfort when i'm terrified of the plane being gone down. you have a better chance of being killed by a donkey than you do of going down in a plane crash. i don't worry about that. >> i'll remember that. >> thanks, laura. i have said it many times, i'm not the greatest flyer. they say, picture the little ants walking by holding your emotions. they are holding signs that have your emotions. that will separate you from your irrational emotion of fear. i am going, fear, fear, fear, no, still there. i get to the donkey thing and
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itic mas it makes me feel better. alcohol when not pregnant can be of some assistance new controversy for an anti-gun group connected to new york city mayor, mike bloomberg. it listed one of the bos ton bombers as a victim of gun violence. they memorialized him as one of the many poor victims of gun violence, tamerlan tsarnaev. it emerges who else is on the list. you will not believe it. it's next major developments in the george zimmerman trial. there are no men on it, except as alternates and only one minority. while lots of people have been focused on the jury's racial makeup, we will ask a professional jury consultant who sat in on this jury selection about these jurors and she knows way more about all six of them than you have heard anywhere else. she is here live new details on one of the most talked about secrets in america. we hear reports that a
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a new call for celebrity chef, paula dean. the controversy began when she
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was recently questioned in a civil lawsuit alleging discrimination. she admitted while under oath to using racial slurs decades ago but denies being prejudice saying her views on these words and this thing have changed. this morning, miss dean apparently bailed out at her last minute on her scheduled appearance on the "today" show where she was going to address the controversy. kelly's court tarkes a look at this next hour new details on a controversy involving new york city mayor michael bloomberg's anti-gun group called mayors against illegal guns. we told you how that group recently read the names of victims of gun violence allowou. among the victims names of gun violence that they read was the boston marathon bomber, tamerlan
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tsarnaev, who was killed, yes, by a gun, also by his brother running him over, as he was trying to evade police. the reason they shot him, of course, is that he was shooting them and throwing bombs at them after he bombed the boston marathon and killed another cop. now, we are hearing he was not the only murder suspect on the list of so-called victims. also named and memorialized by this anti-gun group, cop killer, christopher dorner. the man accused in a series of deadly attacks on police and their families in california which ended in a fierce gun battle with police. he apparently killed himself with a gun as police closed in on him but we memorialized him as well. mayors against illegal guns told busby that the list didn't come from them. it comes from a website,, and is being corrected. they say attention should really be on the very real and personal cost of gun violence. joining me now to discuss the
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gallagher who is a syndicated radio host and fox news contributor. it is not just dorner and tsarnaev. we took a look at a couple of others, kurt meyers, from new york state. he shot two people, wounded two others. he killed four people. he killed four people in addition to a canine dog, police dog, who was the first venture out, shot him through a door. he has been memorialized through this group as a victim. also, kevin bailey, from ohio, who shot at cops and hit one before they shot in self-defense and killed him and dorner and tsarnaev. my question to you is, does this completely delegitimize this list? >> this is business for usually for the anti-second amendment crowd. the true numbers don't like. these guys like to lie about the numbers. i suppose and i don't want to speak for the left or for allen here. i suppose they think even bad
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guys killed by a gunshot are somehow still victims of gun violence. they are very real numbers that ought to get our attention. they love to throw around this 30,000 deaths a year due to gun violence. 18-20,000 of those are suicides. you can't give me the malarky, if they didn't have the gun, they wouldn't kill themselves. in a country like japan that only has 41% of our population, 30,000 to 35,000 people in japan kill themselves without guns. the whole practice is deception. it is to take numbers and twist and distort them in a way that offends everybody. frankly, this whole mayors against illegal guns, just title, enough is goopy. that ought to be eye-rolling. is that opposed to the mayor's illegal group. it is nonsensical. it is bloomberg's fierce agenda to take away gun violence. >> the mayor wants fewer guns to
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be out there. >> simply said, because there are some names that shouldn't be on this list that somehow obscures the real message we should be gleaning from this is a mistake. the list has some errors on it. that does not and should not ofuskate the number of violent gun incidents that have taken place, thousands of them. more people it seems have died in the war in iraq. we could use the same argument mike used on the other side with the no-fly list that came out shortly after 9/11. there were 20,000 people on the no-fly list. actually, 20,000 of them but 2000 people called the tsa to complain and say they shouldn't be on the list. that's 10%. >> the feds are not running around saying, because of these 20,000, something needs to be done. these mayors are using this group -- this group is using this list as a piece of propaganda to say we have had 6,000 deaths since newtown. it has to stop. it is all due to gun violence. the numbers are inflated.
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the truth, the circumstances of those deaths matter. >> if i could finish my point, point i was trying to make, we could make the argument that all the people on the no-fly list who were dangerous to increase the number of people perceived as dangerous to america. >> speak to my point, if you can. truth matters. >> of course it matters. >> the circumstances of these deaths matter. yes, of course. let's not minimize the number of people who were killed by gun violence. >> i'm not minimizing it. you know who is. mayors against illegal guns. was that willful? let me just speak to that. i am going to give him the mike. it wasn't willful. they said they got the list from we never called them victims. we said people that died as a result of guns. mayor bloomberg's office decided to do that. you are telling me nobody that got up there and took part in
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that's rallies understood when they say tamerlan tsarnaev, that they weren't talking about a list of victims? >> it is unconceivable that they didn't know that tsarnaev was on this list. again, this is part of the way these people feel in their heart of hearts. you were just questioning my buddy, alan, who managed to include people in iraq with gun violence statistics. these folks have this bizarre world view that we have to figure out a way to keep everybody alive and safe, which would be wonderful. the truth of the matter is, facts do matter. to pretend that violent, awful people should be included in a list. of course to your question, megyn, about the questions of mayors against illegal guns should be legitimate. they are legitimate. it is an effort to keep and bear arms away from american citizens. >> when they did it in concord,
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the reason this got attention, finally, people in the audience said, he is a terrorist. the people who were there who were anti-gun started getting ticked off saying, don't tell me tamerlan tsarnaev is a gun violence victim. >> what is illegitimate, saying there are some names that should not be on the list, therefore, the whole movement to get bad people off the street is somehow illegitimate. that's illegitimate to make that claim because there are some names that are on the list, therefore, the whole bloomberg effort is not credible. that's an exaggeration. >> the list includes other wrong doers, people that committed suicide, people who died in accidents and so on. it is not just true victims of gun violence. the numbers need to be properly categorized. i have to go. >> you are a victim if you kill yourself with a gun. you are still a victim. >> there we go. it is the gun's fault, alan, not the person's. blame the gun. >> thank you, panel.
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new questions today about whether the fbi is dragging its feet in the investigation into the irs's targeting of conservative groups. this as we get new reports that the top aide to the former irs commissioner, doug shulman, who has been at the white house scores of times, oh, i was for the easter egg roll. guess how many times his chief of staff is listed? it dwarfs the time mr. shulman went? he knows nothing about taxes. he is a political guy. what was he doing there? we will look into that. up next, we will speak to a jury consultant that was in the zimmerman courtroom for every part of the jury selection. wait until you hear the facts she has about these jurors next. is this jury panel acceptable to you, sir? >> yes, your honor. constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. live the regular life. phillips'.
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>> back now to our top story. the george zimmerman murder trial. he is the self-described neighborhood watchman that admits to killing an unarmed black teenager but says he did so in defense. the prosecutors and defense have selected a jury. it is all female. five are white, the other is hispanic. there are four alternates. some critics zeroing in on race and gender. is that really a factor? are both of those factors? what went into deciding that these six would hear mr. zimmerman's fate. susan constantine is a jury
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consultant that was in the courtroom throughout the process. she watched the prosecution and the defense go through the jury pool and select these six. give me your overall thoughts on how we wound up with this jury? >> reporter: well, with 40 jurors, they have opened a pre-trial publicity. it went general voir dire and then after that, they selected six jurors. there were 40 in the pool, 80 or 90 some were already removed from over 500 people being summoned for the jury selection that day. >> how did we wind up with six women on the jury and no african-americans? >> well, if you would see how they were seated, there were really only two males in the first row. there were only a few in the second row. we had 70% females and very few african-americans and just a select few of hispanics. when you look at these jury
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poles, it was heavily weighted. the entire pool was white female. >> what is your thought about having these six women adjudicate this case? >> well, you know, when we're looking at women, there are two that are real strong caretakers. they are rescue lovers. they could bond with the defense because they are moms and a lot of them have children. >> five out of the six have children? >> yes, exactly. but, you know what i was also looking at. most of them are egal ittarians. they are middle class citizens. the defense looks more for egaltarians, middle class citizens, with sales position, common laborers, someone in the service industry. also, too, we are looking with people that may have had a little brush with crime possibly. they would look at zimmerman and say, i can totally get this. i have been there before. there was actually one of them on the jury pool, one or two that had been arrested before.
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one was the blonde juror i was speaking with earlier. >> there is a blonde female, very attractive. she was very back and forth. she had been arrested before. >> arrested before, how does that play? that sounds to me like somebody the defense attorney would probably want. >> they loved her. that's what i'm saying. then, she kind of vacillated back and forth. she was leaning forward the entire time. i call it peacocking, fluffing her feathers up. she asked a lot of questions. she really wanted to be chosen but she vacillated a lot. it wouldn't have been a juror i would have selected. she would be an easy target as a sway juror, someone ha could be easily manipulated. there is one very strong person on the jury pool that i think is going to be a strong anchor. i think this other juror might be easily swayed by her. >> hoist strong juror? who is the strong one you like?
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>> well, she is about 70 years old. she has been a supervisor/director over 1700 people in her past. she is very articulate. she is veryshe's got great critical thinking skills. she's a great listener, just her overall demeanor, she's very polished. when she speak, she speaks with authority. she's also -- i believe she's served on a jury -- or called for jury duty. anyway, i think she will be a strong anchor there and probably the foreperson. >> there are two of these jurors who the prosecution wanted stricken and they got on nonetheless because mr. o o'mar the defense attorney said make the prosecution give a non-gender reason why he wants to strike those jurors. the prosecution couldn't do it. so these two women who the prosecution did not like got on the jury anyway. i want to ask you about them and i want to ask you about the fact that jose baez who got casey
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susan is back with me now. she is a jury consultant in the courtroom clougt the zimmerman jury selection. the two jurors the prosecution tried to get strick in unsuccessfully were b 76, we're using them by number, a middle age white woman, she said there was a struggle and the gun went off. that's what she heard about this case. why do you think the state didn't want her? >> the state didn't want her because we're talking about guns number one and her son is an attorney, number two. also her age demographic.
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she's 50 years old, really would side more for the defense. she's a female, siding more for the defense. when you -- her overall appearance, you'd have to be there to see it, megyn, she's colorful, all i have to say. she is truly a defense juror. i can understand totally and completely why the state wanted to remove her. >> what about e-6? she's a young white woman and mother. she used this case as an example to her two adolescent children warning them not to go out at night. the prosecution did not want her. >> that's a good question. from this personal experience, she did. from that personal experience, let me finish that, she wanted her children to know how important it is to be safe. keep in mind, she also is the same juror that had issues with domestic violence. this is the one i was telling you was doing the peacocking, fluffing the feathers and wanted to be noticed.
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in my opinion, i will share with you. in my opinion, she was a bit flaky. i would not have wanted h her -- quite frankly for the defense or the prosecution. i don't know why -- >> before we let you go, 30 seconds before a hard break, quickly, do you agree with jose baez this is a slam-dunk jury for the defense? >> nothing is ever a slam-dunk and he knows better than to say that. nothing is a slam-dunk. >> you never know what a jury will do and if you try to predict it you wind up looking foolish. susan, thanks so much. >> you're welcome. thanks. we're getting word paula deen is expected to release a video statement any minute now over this controversy of racial statements that have come to light. stay tuned for that. why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours.
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people who want to take ownership of their investments, like they do in every other aspect of their lives. fox news alert, breaking news on celebrity chef paula deen. welcome to a brand new hour of "america live," i'm megyn kelly. we just got word on twitter a short time ago to expect a video statement from paula deen. they say it's coming any moment. she has been the focus of a growing controversy this week that began when the well-known chef was recently questioned under oath in a deposition in a civil lawsuit filed against miss dea deen and her broertsthers allei gender discrimination. she's admitted to using racial slurs, including the "n" word but it was a decade ago and says
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it was a different time and denies being prejudiced. this morning, she bailed out being on the "today" show where she was going to address this controversy. matt lauer saying they hadn't heard from her. she didn't show up. and next, a look at the potential fallout from miss deen. and the minute we get that statement we will bring it to you. another fox news alert. a new fallout from the ft. hood trial. it has been nearly four years since major nadal hasan allegedly opened fire on soldiers and civilians at the ft. hood military installment in texas, killing 13 and injuring dozens of others. now, after several delays and set backs, a military judge has at last set the date for the start of the trial of this accused shooter. in the years since this massa e massacre, some of the victims have gotten fed up with this process, with the military and with the administration's
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handling of it and they're not happy about how this case is now poised as we head towards a july start date. one of those is retired staff sergeant alonzo lunsford, one of the victims hit five times that day including once in the head and lost his eyesight in his right eye. he joins us now. great to see you. thanks for being with us today. this judge sets the trial to begin in july. that's just jury selection. the actual trial won't begin until probably sometime in august. major nadal hasan has been trying to maneuver this process to his advantage in ways expe expected and unexpected from the beginning. your thoughts on it now. >> well, when i found out i was really upset about it because basically we were all geared up for everything to get started on the 1st of july. not only the victims and the survivors but also our families because we were, in our mind, we
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was thinking now we'll finally get a chance to close this chapter and justice will be served. once again it was a setback thrown our way. the question we're asking is when this decision was made, did any ever think about consulting us? the families of the fallen and also the survivors and survivors of this decision-making process. >> have they not? >> no, they have not. >> i know you view this as the latest insult because, of course, our viewers have been following how they dubbed this shooting by nadal hasan, in contact with the terrorists and was screaming god is great in arabic before he shot you and all the others, they dubbed it workplace violence and refused to call it a terrorist attack although the president seemed to come close to that in remarks earlier this month. he officially will not call it a terrorist attack. your thoughts on how the
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administration is inching closer to the terminology you want but not officially. >> well, matters that present themselves to support exactly it being a terrorist act. one by major hasan trying to present defense of others for his reasoning of defense of others saying he was basically defending the taliban and al qaeda and omar muhammad against u.s. service members. now, you tell me how you can twist and say that's workplace violence opposed to it being a terrorist act. >> now, you're in a situation where if this trial does go forward in july and gets started in august, you may have to take the witness stand and be cross-examined by the man who shot you five times. your thoughts on that, sergeant. how do you get through that? >> well, it is a very tough process. but with the help of my triad through the v.a. system and other supporters of the ft. hood
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incident, we have a strong support system. also with our families. there again as time has been progressing on, a lot of individuals that were in support of us or say they were in support of us have basically been showing it really doesn't matter. it's another incident and they want it to hurry up and be over with. >> you are going to have to be cross-examined by a man who is a psychiatrist. he's trained in psychiatry. you and so many of the other victims who survived that day have talked about how you suffered post-traumatic stress after being shot repeated lin an unexpected setting. how do you feel about this man who will have counsel behind him but he'll be doing it, will try to manipulate those skills to get you into a dark place? >> well, my response to that is the mind's a terrible thing to
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waste. when i was in the hospital, when the commander came to see me, one of the first things i said to them was do not let my rank fool you. the beauty about our nation is everyone has the opportunity to be educated. and what i would do is i would use my education and also my mental wit to go step for step with him because he is an army psychiatrist, but basically, common sense will win above all. >> it could be just a matter of weeks before this takes place. any nerves on seeing him? having a direct exchange with him? >> i am a bit nervous. but there again, will not show any fear in the face of the enemy, because in his mind, he knows that what buttons he can push and he will want us to be nervous, so much to the point we will play into his hands. i am not going to allow that to happen. >> sergeant lunsford, you were not awarded a purple heart because they say it was
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workplace violence. you were given something called an army aecom daccommodation me. your thoughts on that. >> i was given army accommodation medal for 22 years, seven month, eight days of service for my command i retired out of. gut feeling and heart feeling that was an embarrassment. basically, it was given to me for the years in service and everything i have done with my 34i89 career. an arcom is typically given out for buffing a floor or doing a small task. you would give that award to show your appreciation. from my wounded warrior command at ft. bragg, north carolina, they basically told me for out of 23 years and seven months and 28 days of service j i only rate an arcom for everything i accomplished in my career. >> wow. sergeant lunsford i speak for all our viewers when i say wee appreciate your service and thank you for coming on today and all the best for you as this
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trial goes forward at last. >> you're welcome, ma'am. >> unbelievable. to this date the victims of the ft. hood massacre have been denied the purple heart and combat medical benefits they would be entitled to if only we would recognize this event as terrorism and not workplace violence. that's because the defense department says there's just not enough evidence to call this attack an act of terror. instead it's been called workplace terror and the administration stands by that. the attorneys for the victims here are still arguing there is evidence this was terrorism, including nadal hasan's announcement earlier this month he was preparing a legal defense claiming the reason he shot all these folks because he wanted to protect the taliban over in afghanistan where some of them were about to be deployed. the judge has shut down that defense. his own lawyers, backup lawyers came out and said we want off the case if you're going to let him argue that.
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the judge, the military judge said, no, he can't do it. they still have to select a jury and this case will be tried by a jury in a military installment and we shall see that proceed again in early july. fox news alert at the white house. president obama announcing his nomination for the new head of the fbi. take a look live at the rose garden. mr. obama is about to announce he is going to name jim comey to replace outgoing fbi director robert mueller. wait until you hear what mr. comey's claim to fame is. our chief white house correspondent ed henry live on the north lawn. >> reporter: good to see you. you remember that dramatic moment in the hospital back in march of 2004. jim comey was a justice department official in the bush administration. john ashcroft the attorney general at the time was very ill. what was happening was top white house officials in the bush white house were trying to race over to the hospital and get john ashcroft to sign up on the
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warrantless wiretapping program the justice department just ruled was illegal. you remember james comey was the person who intervened with robert mueller's help, the fbi director then. comey pushed back on all of that. you see the president coming out introducing comey. >> forgive me. >> for more than a century we have counted on the dedicated women of the fbi to keep us safe. that time the fbi's been led by six directors. and the second longest serving director of the fbi, for the last 12 years, has been an exemplary public servant, bob mu moeller. by law, fbi directors only serve 10 years, back in 2011 when bob's term was up, i asked congress to give him two more years. it wasn't a request i made lightly and i know congress didn't grant it lightly but at a time when transitions were under
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way at the cia and the pentagon, and given the threats facing our nation, we felt it was critical to have bob's steady hand and strong leadership at the bureau. 12 years is a long time to do anything, and i guarantee you that bob's wife, ann, agrees. in addition to asking congress, i think we needed approval from ann as well for those extra two years. today, as bob prepares to complete his service, this is a wonderful opportunity to -- for all of us as a nation to say, thank you, to bob and ann. but also gives me a chance to announce my choice to be the next director of the fbi, jim comey. everyday our fbi special agents, analysts and professional staff devote and often risk their lives keeping us secure from the streets of our cities, to the battlefield of afghanistan.
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they embody the core principles of fidelity, bravery and integrity. bob moeller has embodied those valleys through decades of public service and lived them everyday as fbi director in an extraordinary period in our nation's history. bob was sworn in justbefore 9/1 played a key role in response to those attacks, he began one of the biggest transformations of the fbi in history, to make sure that nothing like that ever happens again. like the marine that he's always been, bob never took his eyes off his mission. under his watch, the fbi joined forces with our intelligence, military and homeland security professionals to break up al qaeda cells, disrupt their activities and thwart their plots. i'll say it as clearly as i can. countless americans are alive today and our country is more secure because of the fbi's
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outstanding work under the leadership of bob moeller. all the while, bob and the fbi have been tireless against a whole range of challenges from preventing violent crime and reducing gang activity including along our border to cracking down on whited collar criminals. today, there are many in the fbi who have never known the bureau without bob at the helm. and like us, they've admired his tenacity but also his calm under pressure, his devotion to our security and his fidelity to the values that make us who we are. it's a trademark, a tribute to bob's trademark humility that most americans probably wouldn't recognize him on the street but all of us are better because of his service. bob, i can't tell you how personally grateful i am to you and to ann for your service. i know that everyone here joins me in saying that you will be remembered as one of the finest directors in the history of the fbi. and one of the most admired
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public servants of our time. i have to say just personally, not only has it been a pleasure to work with bob, but i know very few people in public life who have shown more integrity, more consistently under more pressure than bob moeller. [ applause ] >> i think bob will agree with me when i say we have the perfect person to carry on this work in jim comey, a man who stands up very tall for justice and the rule of law. i was saying while we were taking pictures with this is gorgeous family here they are all what michelle calls normal height.
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the grandson of a patrol man who worked his way up to lead the police department, jim has law enforcement in his blood. as a young prosecutor in the u.s. attorney's office in manhattan. he helped bring down the ga bm n flow crime family. in virginia, he brought down homicide rates and saved lives. he has been relentless, whether standing up for consumers against corporate fraud or bringing terrorists to justice. as deputy attorney general he helped lead the justice department with skill and wisdom, threats we know about and staying perpetually prepared for ones that can emerge suddenly. jim is exceptionally qualified to handle the full range of challenges by today's fbi from threats like vils aolence and organized crime to civil rights and exploitation for children and meeting international challenges like terrorism and
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cyber-threats. just as important as jim's compare experience is his character. he talked about how as a young boy he and his brother nearly lost their lives. they were at home and an intruder bleak in aintrude er broke in and held them at gun point. jim understands at his core the victims of crime and what they go through and made it his life's work to spare others that pain. to know jim comey is to know his fierce end dense aindependence integrity. like bob, that rarity in washington sometimes doesn't care about politics only cares about getting the job done. at key moments when it's mattered most he joined bob in standing up what he believed was right. he was prepared to give up a job he loved rather than be part of something he felt was fundamentally wrong. as jim has said we know the rule of law sets this nation apart and its foundation. jim understands in time of crisis we aren't judged solely
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by how many plots we disrupt or criminals we bring to justice we're also judged by our commitment to the constitution we have sworn to defend and values and civil liberties we pledged to protect. as we have seen in recent days, this work of striking a balance between our security but also making sure we are maintaining fidelity to those values that we cherish is a constant mission. that's who we are. it is in large part because of my confidence not only because of his experience and kill and in teg g integrity i'm confident jim will be a leader who understands how to keep america safe and stay true to our founding ideals no matter what the fort worth may bri what the future may bring. to bob and ann, i want to thank you for your incredible service and thank his wife and children here today. kathryn, brian, claire and
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abbey, for supporting jim as he takes on this important role. i know he couldn't do this without you and he is comparativecompar extraordinarily proud of all of you. i can see why. this is a 10 year assignment. i make this nomination confident long after i have left office our nation will be in good hands with public servants like jim comey. i urge as usual for the senate to act promptly with hearings and to confirm our next fbi director right away. i'd like now to give both of them a chance to say a few words, starting with bob. >> if you care to listen to those remarks, you can do so at fox which is streaming the event live. how about that? james comey, widely known as a mostly apolitical. they said southern district of new york u.s. attorney basically the top federal prosecutor for the southern district of new york the biggest district here in the new york city area for several years and then the top
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deputy under john ashcroft. a controversial attorney general under president bush. that was comey's claim to fame and president obama picking him to head up the fbi a 10 year assignment as you heard the president say. and taking over the job for the director who had it since 2001 and the president asked it be extended. now mr. comey will need to be confirmed by the senate. that does not appear to be any trouble according to initial reports. i want to move on to other news now. major developments including a murder investigation around new england patriots star aaron hernandez. police seemingly appear to be zoning in on this football player. we are seeing conflicting reports whether police of issued a warrant for his arrest or not. reuters reports they want hernandez for interfering in
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this investigation. obstruction of justice into the murder of his friend, odin lloyd, his associate and others saying that's not the case. once again, cops visiting mr. hernandez' home today in north attleboro, massachusetts. joining me the reporter from the "boston globe" who covers the new england patriots joining us by phone. thank you for being here. first, let me ask you, if you and your paper have been able to resolve these conflicting reports about whether there's an arrest warrant issued or an arrest is pending? >> caller: the last i saw from one of my colleagues at "the globe" is there has not been a warrant issued just yet. it is expected there will be but not one issued. >> they're clearly taking a close look at him and been at his house several times and conducting several searches and so on. we talked in our last hour about some evidence that may be pointing the police in his direction. you actually got your hands on some draft reports from nfl
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scouts that paint a picture of a man who has a very short fuse. tell us. >> caller: yes. nfl teams spend tremendous amounts of money and tremendous amounts of time and man hours researching the players that enter the draft each year. they're trying to figure out what kind of people they are, character concerns. obviously other things as well. the report that i was read about aaron hernandez was that he had low self-esteem. he had a short fuse. he wasn't jittery, though, which i guess some guys who have those characteristics are jittery. but hernandez doesn't have that characteristic. and that he's on edge a lot. you know, teams knew -- teams saw there were some, you know, character issues, personality issues when they were researching this kid coming out of the draft. >> you report in your article today, citing the nfl scout, self-esteem quite low, not well-adjusted emotionally.
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not happy, moods unpredictable, not stable, doesn't take much to set him off. it goes on from there. you know what, we're going to take a quick commercial break, if you will bear with me, we will pick it up on the opposite side of the break. dad. how did you get here? i don't know. [ speaking in russian ] look, look, look... you probably want to get away as much as we do. with priceline express deals, you can get a fabulous hotel without bidding. think of the rubles you'll save. with one touch, fun in the sun. i like fun. well, that went exactly i as planned.. really? to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him, he's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol.
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still with me now, shalize. the report talks about somebody with a short fuse that doesn't take much to set him off. the other piece you reported was a man not hanging out so much with nfl colleagues but friends from his former life who are reportedly gang members. is that speculation or is that confirmed? > >> caller: i don't know for sure
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they are gang members. i don't know that for sure. they are people he's known much of his life. he grew up in bristol, connecticut, not far from foxboro where the patriots play. i think that's part of the problem, he's not physically far enough from his past. it's easy enough for him to go back and forth between bristol and the foxboro area. from what i've been told they're shady guys, not given definitive they're gang members but people have been leery of him going back to his days at the university of florida and the patriots. >> do we have any affiliation of him with the victim in this latest shooting, this 27-year-old man? >> caller: odin floyd, the 27-year-old man killed said odin was dating the sister of hernandez's girlfriend. that is the tie established between the two of them. >> what of this other civil lawsuit we now learned has been brought against aaron hernandez by somebody else claiming they
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got shot by him. >> caller: that's an interesting situation. down in florida, it allegedly happened in february that he and what appeared to be a friend of his had gone to a club in miami. they argued as they were driving after they left the strip club. aaron shot the man allegedly in the face, whether it was on purpose or accident, where the gun went off or something like that is unclear. apparently everyone involved was highly uncooperative with police, which is why there was never any criminal charges brought in the case. he is facing a civil suit now. it was pulled after a couple days because apparent there i there was a mistake in the wording of the lawsuit and that has been refiled and that is something else he's facing. >> i have to go. i want to ask you this. as the reporter who covers the patriots for the "boston globe," that would have been something highly newsworthy. you would have followed that. is there a reason that's only emerging now, the fact he
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allegedly shot someone else? >> caller: because there was not a criminal case that came out, if nobody was cooperative and criminal things are a matter of public record we would have found out about it and it certainly would have been a big deal back then. if everybody was unkrooptive and the police weren't able to file charges or anything like that, that's why it flew under the radar. the only reason it's come up now because there has been documents filed for a lawsuit. >> wow. there will be more news in this one in the hours perhaps to come. thanks for being here. >> caller: thank you. >> want to let you know we're watching breaking news this hour on paula deen. she was the one who took to twitter under her own twitter feed about an hour or so ago and told her followers she would be releasing a video statement very shortly about the trifrs surrounding some racial remarks she admits she made. we'll have more on this in a moment. plus new revelations in the investigation into the irs's targeting into conservative
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groups as we learn one of the agency's top staffers, the assistant to this guy, shul mma remember him, he had gone over to the white house scores of times and when asked why, said it was an easter egg visit. his staassistant's number of ti he went over dwarfed the number of times he went over. what were they doing there? >> i think it's too slow. you can always have the agents we're reviewing our records and getting it together. somebody needs to find out what the problem is. talk to the people and find out what the problem is. >> i can tell you there is a sense of urgency with the investigation.
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fox has an alert out of greenville, north carolina. we just got word of an arrest after four people were reportedly shot in and around a local walmart. "associated press" reporting a man with a shotgun wounded one person at a law firm before entering the store where he is said to have wounded an additional three people. no word yet on the extent of their injuries. we are told the suspect was arrested after turning the gun on police and was subsequently shot. more information on this as we get it. new developments on the investigation of the irs's targeting of conservative groups. it's been five weeks since president obama vowed to find who is responsible and twice now, twice in just the past few weeks we have seen the fbi
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director grilled in congressional testimony about why they haven't talked to any of the victims. why haven't they interviewed any of the people and groups who have been targeted? we're going to look into it. not sure. we just confirmed moments ago as of this afternoon investigators still have not spoken to any of the victims. their question in the slow role in this investigation, this as there are new revelations today the top political aide to the i irs, doug shulman is listed in the white house visitor log more than 310 times. 310 times and over 100 doug shulman went himself. joining me now the former advisor to senator frank lautenberg and fox news contributor and laura larson, radio host. the video log doesn't mean the person showed up but shulman didn't bat an eyelash when
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questioned why he went to the white house over 100 times and now find his deputy listed on the log over 300 times. that guy is not a tax guy, lars, he's not a tax expert. he's a political aide, a policy guy. the question is does this tie the irs to the white house more intimately than we knew and is it going to raise even more questions about who ultimately is responsible for this? >> of course, it is. megyn, that's a great grab on fox part to find out those 300 visits. you're right. the white house visitor's log doesn't necessarily indicate he went there. there's smoke here and i have a feeling there's fire down below. for decades americans have been scared to death of the irs. ask anybody if they want a visit from the irs. finally, we've got the relationship back where it should be. the irs is scared to death of what the public's going to find out about how this agency was used politically by the white house.
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i think the obama white house is afraid, too. you think about it this way, most of the people in the middle of the federal breaks are lives. they will be there no matter who's in the white house or in the cabinet, they will be there for life. they depend on agencies growing and government getting bigger. they will carry some of the water for the obama administration but in this case, the president is in no hurry to pick up the phone and call the treasury secretary and have him pick up the phone and call the folks at the irs and say, produce those documents now, produce those witnesses now and pick up the phone and tell the fbi. >> congress called a bunch of them to testify. it's not going to be hard to track them down, not like they're keeping their identity as secret. julie, i want to ask you, because we just saw that the new actsing -- the new head of the irs danny wuerffel, one of his major acts as the new irs commissioner was to give $70 million he's approve iing $70
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million in bonuses to the irs employees. 70 million in bonuses. meanwhile, the same guy, when he was over in a different part of the administration is the one who signed the order on behalf of barack obama saying no more discretionary bonuses while we're in the middle of a sequester. he gets sent over and the first move is give bonuses to these people. where is accountability? we're not the talking victims, giving bonuses to irs employees who may have conducted this. it leaves the american people saying where is the accountability? >> on bonuses, you're a lawyer so you probably know better than i would, these are contractually obligated bonuses. i think they have to give them out. >> let me jump in and stop you. i don't know the status but i do know the irs initially told the employees you're not getting them because of danny wurfel's earlier order and something happened to switch danny wurfel and people are asking is it hush money? >> i don't know that. i will say i don't understand
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how if they are contractually obligated i don't know how bonuses are in a contract. that's a separate issue. to me, a bonus is for a job well done not necessarily in your contract and getting it regardless of the job you've done. that's ridiculous. to go back to the earlier point laura's made. i'll get outraged about white house involvement when there's evidence there was white house involvement. right now i see no evidence. right now a lot of people are trying to make that connection based on no facts. >> oh, please. >> where are the facts? you can imply whatever you want but there's no evidence showing any white house connection. >> julie, have the president explain why the irs commissioner was there 150 times as often as the irs commissioner was during bush. >> i'll tell you exactly why. obama-care. the irs is having involvement in obama-care and they're trying to implement this broad new policy. i suspect he has to go there for obama-care. 150 times and internet and e-mail. >> why is then his chief of
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staff going there over 300 times, perhaps, who is not attacks expert? he's a political aide? >> because whenever a member of the senate or house or anybody else goes to the white house unless it's a secure briefing or any member of the administration, chances are their chief of staff probably goes with him. that's how it's done. >> he has maybe twice the number of visits as doug shulman. >> or he's the one working on behalf of his boss. i don't know the answer to that. i know there's no evidence whatsoever the white house is involved in this and nobody can produce that. >> what you said is absolutely true, there is no evidence linking this to the white house. that begs the question this has evolved day-by-day. when it first started the lawyers representing the tea party said they're being targeted, the answer was, no, they aren't, you're full of it. we had doug shulman go before congress and say we are not targeting conservatives under oath. the american people have been lied to before. they have been told there's no
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fire where they saw the smoke. with all due respect they have questions and not taking people at their word. >> legitimately they should have questions and conservatives were targeted. no excuse for that. whoever did the targeting should be held accountable. so far i see no evidence this was directed by the white house. >> julie, what about the letter? >> what letter? >> the letter from the groups targeted saying from cincinnati we can't act until we hear from washington. somebody in washington knew about it. >> no question it's tied to washington. there is a question about whether it's tied to 1600 pennsylvania avenue, to the white house. that remains to be seen. >> have the president -- >> even the presidejulie is say need accountability and they're not talking to the victims. you saw that embarrassing testimony by bob mueller twice, we will get the
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investigators -- that gives question we're giving bonus, don't know who the lead investigator is and don't need a special counsel because the government is going to self-investigate. >> megyn, they're not capable of self-investigating and the president knows it and american people knows it. all the president has to do is pick up the phone and call some top agency chiefs and say we need the information right now but the president doesn't want this out. you're right. he's slow rolling this. the irs is slow rolling it and the fbi is slow rolling it. the american people ought to be outraged this agency has been used as a weapon and now the government that was just re-elected is refusing to look into it because -- there's no other conclusion i can reach. if president obama truly isn't involved then it's in his best interests to demonstrate it. if he is involved then there's every interest in slow rolling it. since it's being slow rolled i have to conclude that obama or somebody in the white house knew about this and wants it kept under wraps. >> we'll have to leave it at
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we're going to let this cook for three hours. there is no box of macaroni and cheese that's going to taste that good anywhere. look at the steam coming off of that! >> oh, paula. kelly's court is back in session on the docket today. it is getting hot in this kitchen of celebrity chef paula deen. she backed out of a tv appearance on the "today" show this morning, following racially charged remarks she recently admitted to making decades ago. the admission was recent but remarks made decades ago. a short time ago today she announced on her twitter feed she will release a video statement. we continue to await that. joining us now, former prosecutor and defense attorney a fox news legal analyst. what happened was an employee of hers sued her and her brother,
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who run as restaurant of hers for discrimination. what kind of discrimination? >> two types of discrimination. racial discrimination and apparently some sexual discrimination, sexual harassment as well. the plaintiff is alleging there's a lot of "n" words being bandied about at that restaurant and a lot of dirty joke telling apparently much to the offense of the people who work there. this would be under title 7, megyn. >> and porn watching. she's accusing the brother of watching porn at the office and apparently paula deen said, well, i wouldn't persecute him for that if somebody sent it to him and he pulled it up on his computer and there it was. in the context of this civil lawsuit against her. listen, people sue celebrities like paula deen who have a lot of money and a lot of success all the time. >> big target. >> that doesn't mean they're valid that a lawsuit has been filed and just because you sit for a deposition doesn't mean it's valid. in the context of the deposition
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she gets asked what. >> she got asked if she made these "n" words. here's the rub. the plaintiff is caucasian. she is not black. i have a 33 page complaint in here. this is about i don't get paid the same as my male colleagues and the bubba d. her brother, tried to kiss me a few times. he watches porn. he's disgusting and makes these cescist remar i sexist remarks. where is the racial discrimination? it's just an add on. >> how is she suing for racial discrimination if she's white and paula deen is white. >> she said i saw my colleagues called the "n" word and some of that affected my emotional psyche. >> the work environment? >> it's not even there. it's what she called intentional infliction of distress. i was so emotionally distressed, an add on. call paula deen a racist or bigot and give me more money at
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the end. >> they get paula deen in a deposition under oath and asked her whether she ever used the "n" word in her life. let me set it up. she talked about how -- hold on. don't confuse me with the full screen until i'm ready. she talked about how she got held up one time back in 1986 and she said after that encounter she went home and told her husband about it. she used the "n" word and here's that part of the deposition that made all the news. lawyer, did you use ne"n" word to describe him as he pointed a gun at your head and face? >> absolutely not. >> when did you use it? >> probably telling my husband. this was back in 1986. as she went on, another segment, number two. look, that's just not a word we use as time has gone on. things have changed since the '60s in the south and my children and brother object to that name being used in any cruel or mean behavior as well as i do. they went on to ask you, what do you mean in a cruel way? she kind of seemed to say, well,
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if it's in a joke, maybe that doesn't offend as much in her view. >> that that's what make hers the worst kind of racist. there's no nice way to use that word. dean is putting her foot in her mouth. if she isq joking around using the word, or, oh, my god, planning a slaved theme wedding handsome, that's notqqqñr racis? >> she can't come forward and say, i'm white,lpi] but becausei don't like the way my black colleagues are treated, i'jb[5ñ h"sn't work thatxd wayíd >> shee1 can -- 4y#p>> for this intentional -- u psychically damaged. thatfá is aned a on. i'm going to get more money ifqi
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>> one of the most talked about secrets in america now revealed. the name of the baby girl of kim kardashian and kanye west. the game they chose gives their baby some direction in life. >> you could say that. leaved to kim kardashian and kanye west to find a way to surprise in this world of
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outrageous baby names. one network is reporting they decided to name their baby girl north, as in the direction north. seen her on he birth certificate, which would make her full name north west. no middle name they'll call her nori. the family left the hospital after an emotional week. little nori was premature and just weighed under fine pounds. her name does not start with the letter k, and that was kim's wishes at the virgining. their name choice joins the ranks of celebrities pick ewing instinct baby names, such as holly madison who named her daughter rainbow aurora. >> or moxie crimefighter by penn jill gillet.
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my favorite is -- -- came up with the nick nick loon ya. kardashian went on the -- talked about another name, easton, she liked easton west. >> megyn, -- >> as my nana said, going to be 98 in october. she doesn't approve of our name -- they have to live with that name. >> i know. >> i hope the next baby is named wild, wild, and then followed by twins. >> i just hope he admits --
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>> megyn: north west. thanks for watching. here's shepard smith. >> you know the middle name, right? by. >> megyn: i prefer wild wild. >> shepard: i guess they want the kid to hate 'em. >> megyn: good start. i chose unusual names so i'm not one to judge, but this is -- there's unusual and then there's just mock me. southeast may be the little one. >> have a great weekend. >> shepard: news begins anew on "studio b." this is getting weird. police are once again at the house of an nfl star after one of his friends turned up dead. new information coming


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