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the factor next. >> laura: the o'reilly factor is on. tonight: >> george zimmerman is not guilty of murder. he shot trayvon martin in self-defense after being viciously attacked. >> laura: the george zimmerman, trayvon martin murder trial finally gets underway as the defense plays the dramatic 911 tape. >> 911, do you need police, fire or medical? >> maybe both. i'm not sure. there is just someone screaming outside. >> what is your -- --just heard gun shows. shots. >> we are following all the appropriate legal channels and working with other countries to make sure the rule of law is observed. >> laura: where in the world was edward know den. he was a no show on a
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flight from moscow to cuba. what happened to him. will he ever be brought to justice? we'll have the latest. >> i am here to say i am so sorry. >> laura: fans rally around celebrity chef paula deen after the food network fires her over a loaded racial slur. did the network overreact? we will have a debate. and a collective worldwide gaffe as dare devil nik wallenda. should a dangerous stunt like that be televised? we have analysis. >> laura: caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> laura: hi, i'm laura ingraham in for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. how moderate republicans are killing the party. that's the subject of this evening's talking points memo. in all my years of warning about the g.o.p. moderates, i'm certain that this
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senate immigration deal is the worst thing they have ever done. it's not good for the country. it's not good for the poor. it's not good for any of the principles they claim to support. and, of course, of the whole thing was a big rush job in order to prevent an all out revolt in the g.o.p. the more time folks have to read this mess, the more relearn about how it doesn't do what it claims to do, like the fact that border agents don't really have to be hired until 2017 and that it gives janet napolitano the discretion to knicks any part of the border fence if she feels like it it or that not only does the bill forgive past visa overstays but some future visa overstays are forgiven as well. or that they stuff the bill with so much pork it's unbelievable to appease senators who are last-minute holdouts. this is totally shady and it is shameful. this week the g.o.p. should have focused on the edward snowden debacle which is becoming more and more
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humiliating and which underscores obama's complete inability to deal with china or russia. we'll get into that later in the program instead, the g.o.p. will continue to infuriating its own base and affirmatively hurting the wage earning prospects for american workers with this toxic immigration bill. you know, i don't see how the g.o.p. coalition can really continue on this path. because of the priorities of the working people are either ignored all together or they are being openly dismissed. so, in other words, if speaker john boehner doesn't put an end to this nonsense, how can he expect an enthusiastic grass roots to rally around the g.o.p. in the future? to the senate democrats who never gave up on this issue, who and who played the g.o.p. brilliantly, i say congrats. and to all republicans who support this, he know that you are writing your own political obituary. i hope you know that you have just participated in the political equivalent of a one-night stand.
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once the democrat leadership has had their way with you, they are not going to love you in the morning. and that's the memo. we'll have more on this a little later on in the program. but, first, the top story. the most anticipated trial of the summer got underway today, as lawyers in the george zimmerman murder trial delivered their opening remarks. zimmerman shot and killed 17-year-old trayvon martin in sanford, florida last year and that is not in disputed. what is at issue is whether it was self-defense or murder. >> we are confident that at the end of this trial you will know in your head, in your heart, in your stomach, that george zimmerman did not shoot trayvon martin because he had to. he shot him for the worst of all reasons, because he wanted to. >> george zimmerman is not guilty of murder.
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he shot trayvon martin in self-defense after being viciously attacked. >> laura: joining me now from the courthouse in sanford is judge alex ferar former circuit judge and host of judge alex. all right judge alex, tell us what you saw today and we had the first witnesses come out, of course. but, let's start from the beginning just that mood and the feeling as you walked into the courtroom. >> well, it was a powerful beginning to the case. the prosecution got up there and did a really impactful powerful statement. took the jury to the location of the crime. using strong language that they say came right from george zimmerman's mouth. i think everybody who heard that opening statement said it had the desired effect the prosecution wanted. then everything changed. the defense got up there and started with what can i best describe a somewhat inappropriate joke in the murder trial involving a victim that was only 17 years old and whose father and mother were sitting in the courtroom.
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a joke that fell flat in the courtroom and then proceeded to give an opening statement that dragged on for three hours. was very much a cross between an opening and a closing argument. perhaps a strategy on their part to slow things down and perhaps a strategy to hit on every single point that they possibly could to get the jury's attention on the differences between the prosecution's case and the defense of self-defense. but it was a completely, completely different feel between the prosecution's opening statement and the opening statement of the prosecution of this case. >> laura: now you picked my curiosity about this joke. what could that be? that's sounds ridiculous it? >> was ridiculous. we have all heard the joke before. i have used the joke before when people have asked whether or not you could find a jury that had never heard of the case. i mentioned the joke about the o.j. simpson case knock knock who is there. ojoj who welcome to the jury. >> laura: that's not funny by the way. it was funny 20 years ago.
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they used it in front of the jury, which kind of sends to the jurors a message like we only picked you because you know nothing. not because you can be fair and impartial. really bad bad choice. and distasteful in front of the parents of the dead victim, of course. after that -- >> laura: i'm sorry. a couple of witnesses also testified today; is that right? >> yes, that's right. i think it was trayvon's young family member. i believe it's his cousin who was waiting for him to bring the skittles home who scefd first. and then after that they went to the person at the 7/11 who -- the clerk who actually sold -- in order to set the time line of what was going on, he left the house, he went to buy the skittles and the tea or the ice tea or juice or whatever. then they got to the 911 operator. when we were getting to the meat of the case getting ready to play the 911 case. was there any objection over the next three tapes that was going to be played. the defense said. no and apparently didn't realize they were going to go ahead and play them.
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all of a sudden got an objection the defense objected on run ground had not objected on one ground but intended to object on another ground. now we are at a stand still. rested for the day. most important part, the opening statement which is really a road map for the jury. kind of like the picture on the box of a jigsaw puzzle what's coming in case it doesn't come in chronological order. that was done now we move forward. >> laura: lesson of the day, leave the knock knock jokes at home. judge alex good to see you. next on the rundown, whistleblower edward snowden on the run searching for asylum wherever he can find it how america can get him back coming up.
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>> laura: in the impact segment tonight. where on earth is edward know den. the nsa leaker searching for asylum after were info
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about security program. he fled from hong kong to moscow and the white house isn't happy about it. >> we are just not buying that this was a technical decision by a hong kong immigration official. this was a deliberate choice by the government to release a fugitive despite a valid arrest warrant and that decision, unquestionably has a negative impact on the u.s./china relationship. >> laura: today president obama was asked if he spoke with russian president vladimir putin. >> what we know is that we are following all of the appropriate legal channels and working with various other countries to make sure that rule of law is observed. beyond that i will refer to the justice department that has been actively involved in the case. >> laura: according to the latest report, snowden is now trying to get to ecuador. he was expected to be on a flight from moscow to cuba this morning but ended up being a no show and u.s. officials believe he is still in russia. with me now is mark mukasey a former federal prosecutor
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who has worked on extradition cases. mark, this is amazing. we have all these issues outstanding with russia right now. syria, and russian adoptions. now. this we think he is still in russia but we really don't know, do we? >> we don't know. i will tell you this the best made extradition plans can go awry. i have extradited hundreds of people from colombia. this process can be laden with paperwork. it can be jammed up for years. in a case like, this you would think that they would streamline it. >> laura: so he this would get it right. >> it's an urgent case and there is exception in extradition cases. >> laura: in hong kong we hear the papers weren't quite in order. it all seems like the kind of excuse. they knew he was important us. and the fact is china and russia have no state interest in rushing this along themselves. they want to find out what this guy knows if they can. >> to get the paperwork in
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order it's easy. give me a copy the arrest warrant. translated copy of the complaint. give me a copy of the affidavit from the prosecutor i want to know what the charges are and let me understand what the evidence is that's the paperwork that you have to file. i'm sure that was filed. >> laura: there is some question mark about why it took them so long to revoke his passport. that was curious to me when i first heard of him and -- oh, his passport is yanked. it took like five days, six days? i might be getting it wrong. >> it took five or six days. the bottom line here is that there is a moment in time when this passes from the justice department to the state department and it becomes a matter of policy and it becomes a matter of foreign relations. the justice department part of this, i'm sure was done well. the office of international affairs does this every single day in matters that are urgent and in matters that are not so urgent. at some point this becomes a state department problem. >> laura: so this is a john kerry issue? he came out today obviously very concerned.
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very distressed about russia and china, kind of slow walking this whole process. when you look at this today, it says so much beyond the legal realm. it says a lot about the way other countries view us. whether they are a little bit fearful of us. they don't want to tick us off or frankly make us. what are we going to do about it? there is a subtext here going on beyond the niceties of the legal process. >> i think beyond the niceties of the legal process, at some point you have to say you know what? we didn't dot every i or cross every t 12 times the way you wanted it. at some point we are the united states. this guy has engaged in violations of the espionage act. get him here. i don't care how. >> laura: julian assange is in ecuador himself. he is at an embassy there, right? so he is able to -- in london. is he able to stay there in london. >> let me tell what you we should do with julian assange. >> we are concerned he should go to ecuador. >> snowden charged with two counts of violation of the
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espionage act. there is also a provision of the espionage act that says if you are harboring or concealing or helping someone who has violated the espionage act he should be indicted. >> laura: let's say he ends up flying to exqua door we have extradition treat with ecuador. >> we do. >> laura: our relations -- they have had political issue going on there as well. >> snowden is going to say, listen, i'm afraid of being persecuted, you know. >> laura: he is raising money there, too. >> i'm afraid of being tortured or worse if i get sent back to -- you are not going to be persecuted. you are going to be prosecuted as you should be. >> laura: thanks so much. directly ahead, how embarrassed shut the white house be that so many countries are helping snowden at this point. that debat
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>> laura: continuing now with the manhunt for nsa leaker edward snowden and the political implications of his game of hide-and-seek. last year president obama proudly said this. >> around the world the united states is leading once more. from europe to asia our alliances are stronger than ever. today we can say with confidence and pride the united states is stronger and safer and more respected in the world. >> laura: really, mr. president? if that's true, why are so many countries thumbing their nose at us by helping snowden avoid extradition. why does he seem to be one step ahead of u.s. authorities? >> is the administration embarrassed now that you can't track him down, this cat and mouse game going on for all the world to see? >> we have known where he is and believe we know where he is now and there are ongoing conversations about that.
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>> laura: okay. joining us now from washington with reaction, fox news contributors juan williams and mary katharine ham. let's start with you, mary katherine. i'm seeing this play out. i think it's a long way from that 200,000 person audience in berlin when it was the beginning of the globama he could do no wrong. we could all sing in perfect harmony. now it turns out that ecuador could thumb its nose. ecuador? what's going on? >> when it comes to snowden himself i'm sort of in the middle. i'm happy to examine his motives and acknowledge when you indulge? civil disobedience part of the risk is that you will be punished. on the other hand i am more interested in how the nsa spying goes down. i'm glad we know something about that and can examine it. the larger part of this run from the law here doesn't it sort of reveal ineffectiveness and ineptitude that makes me concerned about what's going on in the nsa and how they are allegedly able to
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competently able to deal with all the information in this system of doing things. where is the payoff on the smarted power that we have been edge gauged in all these years it doesn't make me feel great about the whole system. >> i mean, juan, i'm thinking we have snowden in hong kong. >> we couldn't track him down there. i mean, we even invested as mary katharine was intimating hundreds of billions of dollars on this high tech, you know, security equipment. we should be able to know where he is. we don't even know really if he is still in russia right now. aside from the fact that it's really embarrassing. it is an interesting question. are we getting a bang for our buck high tech surveillance information? >> you guys are way off in the weeds here that high tech surveillance information has been protecting us as americans from terrorism. edward snowden is like a gnat in your face at a summer picnic. is he irritating but let's not confuse the idea of why we have that surveillance with tracking edward
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snowden and besides even if we tracked him down in hong kong. it's not like we could do -- roust him out of there. that's illegal. we tried to do it through legal channels. and what's happened here chinese have thumbed their nose. >> why do you think they are doing that, juan? >> why do you think they feel like they can do that today after four and a half years of hope and change in the white house? why do you think they feel empowered. >> they would be doing it no matter if it was a republican or democrat in the white house. i think this is president putin for his part and you know the russians believe that the nsa was spying on dmitry medvedev back at the -- i think it's a group of 20 conference held in britain. they feel like it's pay back. the chinese feel like it's pay back because the united states has been pointing fingers at the chinese for hacking computers. american computers. >> laura: we couldn't pay them back if we wanted to for all the money we owe. come on, juan. i gotcha, i'm just teasing
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you. juan, set aside who is in the white house. forget obama and forget the promise of obama and all of that a guy labeled a traitor. fbi director. nsa chief, by the president. mary katharine, we don't know if is he in russia. apparently the russians don't care if we want them back. so much for that reset button that hillary mistranslated to the russian leader. >> that's the deal. is he either a gnat or he influcketted all this incredible damage. if he in fact has the status of a gnat but can't inflict this incredible damage there something wrong with the system. i would like to address that but, yeah, first of all, they never apparently issued what is called a red notice in interpol that would have made him stoppable at various airports. so, the sort of level of inenthroughout of the federal government in tracking something like this brings concern to the
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larger operation whether they can safely or competently deal with large amounts of private data of american citizens. >> laura: is that too much of a stretch? she is leaking into the collection dragnet of data by the nsa. >> i think it's a leak, mary katharine. what i see is you can say listen, and i know you are very sensitive about the nsa program civil liberty. what i'm saying the conduct of that program, which is about stopping terrorism and detecting patterns of communication and the fisa court to try to keep it from being done domestically, that's separate from what's going on with snowden. and we couldn't have gotten and extracted snowden independently. >> it's the jacket same people dealing with it and they are bad at doing both. >> juan, if had you to grade the president in handling our relationship with china and china today, what grade would you give him? >> i hadn't thought about it i guess i would give him a b or c. >> laura: you are grading on a curve. i thought my alma matter was bad.
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>> i will take that grade. >> talking to them while this is happening. plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. paula deen sacked by the food network for using racial slurs. what does it say about our culture that nearly 13 million people watched a man walk across a grand canyon on appear cable. we hope you stay tuned to alec, for this mission i upgraded your smart phone. ♪ right. but the most important feature of all is... the capital one purchase eraser. i can redeem the double miles i earned with my venture card to erase recent travel purchases. d with a few clicks, this mission never happened. uh, what's this button do? [ electricity zaps ] ♪ you requested backup? yes. yes i did. what's in your wallet?
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>> laura: in the personal story segment tonight. fans of tv chef paula deen are rallying to her defense after the food network gave her the boot for using the "n" word. during a deposition for a lawsuit, deen admitted she used the racial slur. she has now publicly apologized several times. so did the tv network overreact or were deen's statements simply unforgiven. a mediaible a list and from washington bishop harry jackson pastor of the hope christian church in d.c. steve, let's start with you here. >> sure. >> laura: look, this happened in a deposition. it was very odd the way the whole thing came out. give a brief background. >> she didn't handle this well. more than anything else, people say stupid things. the question is about paula deen. she didn't handle it from ad media point of view. she was asked have you ever said the "n" word in a deposition her answer was
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of course i have said it that's the first problem. the second thing when you have a major network interview sign up for, she didn't show up for that and then she did what i call hostage videos. videos in which she tries to defend herself. she looked terrible. she looked terrible. it didn't come across really well. then what she did is added to it here is what i mean. she started talking about her great grandfather and he had slaves. she said they were workers. and he lost everything that he cared about when he lost his workers. she meant those slaves but she said you don't understand they were really like family. here is my point. when she wasn't talking about food, high cholesterol and high fat food and race and slavery she got in trouble. i'm sure she is a very nice person. she got into an area that got her in trouble. the sponsor of the network said we don't want any part of it. it's business. it's not personal with them. it's bottom line economics. she got hurt in this. >> laura: bishop jackson, what of this ability to fear give people? it seems like all sorts of celebrities that are forgiven for really
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reprehensible conduct. we have people that are forgiven after torturing dogs. people have been involved and accused of rape. i don't have to go down the list of bad actors there is a lot of it out there. this is certainly a horrible thing that she said. what do you make? >> laura, i think it is bad, but, we're not getting redemptive process from this. in south africa, remember the desmond tutu had a truth and reconciliation commission helped really transform the nation. here we have been fighting this, the nappy headed comment that we had from imus. things of that nature from been horrific. but i believe we could challenge a paula deen to go to just a little classes, i don't want to be really invasive. give money to various programs that could help african-americans shows on the heritage. i think there is redemptive side of this. the church has got to lead
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the way. i think we have been too passive saying sunday morning is the most segregated hour of the day in our church. we have 22 nationalities that worship together. and i believe that if we'll engage the culture together and actually talk and interact. >> laura: this is what happens you become radioactive. there is frankly forgiveness for all sorts of bad actions out. >> there a lot worse than this. >> laura: if you say something like this. does she have any history i must say i don't watch paula deen. >> i do. i will tell you. this she has absolutely no history of doing anything to be discriminatory. here is the problem when she says that she wanted her 2007, marriage of the brother to be a plantation-like event where african-americans she used the "n" word were dressed up. >> laura: does she admit saying this. >> yes, she did. dressed up in white shirts and black pants it would be a real southern wedding. here is the thing. i agree with you on the redemption issue. here is the problem.
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if you are a sponsor, and just smith foods, smithfield foods just dropped her. qvc is going to drop her. you can understand the network and sponsor saying listen, we will forgive her later we are not going to put our economics on the line. >> laura: i see it but all i'm saying there is probably another chapter here. >> counsel the -- down the road, yes. there should be. >> laura: a lot of professional sports players. >> a lot worse than this. >> laura: criminal activity and bishop, do you hope she comes back if this is it for her in television for a while? >> no. i would hope she would come back and i hope, again, she would walk out of this redemptive process for our benefit 50 years after the marchionne washington still got race problems. even with a black president. it's time for us to collectively to take action. >> laura: something good may come of it. that would be a nice thing. reminder about the factor's mission to get our wounded veterans high tech track
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>> laura: thanks for staying with us, i'm laura ingraham in for bill o'reilly. in the factor follow-up segment tonight, the senate immigration bill still
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causing deep divides. the supporters dig their heels in for a fight. earlier today president obama offered his support. >> all of us, i think, recognize that now is the time to get comprehensive immigration reform done, one that involves having very strong border security that makes sure that we are holding employers accountable to follow the rules, one that provides earned citizenship for those 11 million so that they have to pay back taxes, pay a fine, learn english, follow the rules, get to the back of the line. >> laura: joining me now from washington is frank sherri. he is the founder and executive director called america's voice. a pro-immigration reform group. frank, great to see you with us tonight. the bill is about 1190 pages. the amendment is about 100 or so pages. and when i had my staff print out the early bill the gang of eight bill and then you try to cross-reference all of the other new sections with, by
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the way, handwritten changes in the margin, if you look at the pdf you can see handwritten changes, it is quite an undertaking to cross-reference one change to page 72 it's not easy. okay? i have been reading both documents. did you know about this sort of -- it's called the salmon sweetner. are you aware of what the salmon sweetner is in this bill? >> i'm not aware of the salmon sweetner. >> how about the crony sweetner do you know what that is. >> not. >> make work provision? do you know what that is? >> all this stuff make up right wing world. >> this is hollywood give aplay. these are all the things inserted in the bill get support from senators on the bench. >> lisa murkowski and den in nevada. needed to get these votes. all these little goodies thrown into the bill. >> thee argue manies,
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laura, guts of this bill is is the most massive expansion of immigration enforcement in american history. a doubling of the border patrol. a doubling of border fencing. a mandatory everify system and entry exit system. should be something you should be celebrating as the government finally getting serious about something i believe they have been serious about for the last 20 years. but this is designed to get republican support on a bill that also modernizes our legalization system and path to citizenship. what's not to like? >> you like the bill because it increases border enforcement and that's why you are supporting it? >> no. i like the bill because it finally gets the policy right and fixes the problem once and for all. >> you know we passed a border fence bill back in 2006 which mandated exactly the type of fencing, exactly a little more stringent being mandated in this bill 700 miles of fencing. you know that wasn't done, right? >> 647 miles were built. litigation that stopped it from 700. >> you know that a lot of the stuff that we are
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hearing, have you been around a long time, frank. you know most of the stuff isn't going to be done. janet napolitano will get a hang nail one day and she will decide no, we're going to have the border patrol pass out water at the border backpacks or whatever. the idea that they are going to be stopping people you can't come in. we are going to send you home. you really believe that? >> this is what you got in the deal. what conservatives got. >> we got to track the citizenship for people violating our laws, that's what we got. >> 11 million people agents in place. >> it's a hard trigger called. >> the hard trigger was not agreed to. they got rid of the hard trigger because they didn't hard trigger. defeated in the process. >> laura: do you think in hillary clinton becomes president if she does or another democrat do you think it's likely in a
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presidential debate hillary or the democrat nominee look at that republican candidate and say you wanted these people to be second class citizens wait for several years i want them to be citizens on january 21st, 2017. do you agree with me? do you think likelihood in the next election? it would be. this whole thing is stupid. >> let's do another hypothetical. let's say laura ingraham gets who she wants and the bill craters candidate clinton will saleh teen know vote. >> laura: i have this idea people no matter where they came from and what their background want better wages and higher wages. i think this bill will keep their wages suppressed. i think you can get people to vote for you if you thank you very much. coming up. a florida university has reinstated a teacher who made a student participate in a exercise deeply offensive to christians. we are going to bring you the latest when we return.
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>> laura: in the factor flashback segment tonight, back in march florida atlantic university instructor instructed his communications class to write the word jesus on a piece of paper. put it on the floor and then stomp on it there was a huge public outcry over this offensive exercise, especially after one student, ryan row tell la was punished for refusing to participate. the teacher was placed on administrative leave. but now he is back. sau -- fau just reinstated dr. pool who is the vice chair of the palm beach county democratic party. bill spoke with the controversy kristen powers and kate obenshain when it first happened. >> this was just stupid.
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and it's a really bad advertisement, unfortunately, for liberalism. i consider myself a liberal. i don't think this is the type of behavior most liberals would endorse. it was -- it wasn't just insensitive it was intolerant. we can do a quick experiment and say would the professor ever say write mohammed on a piece of paper and jump on it and the answer is. no. >> bill: objection, well, be that as it may, whether it's stupid or dr. poole is a genius and we just all don't understand his intellect, what bothers me about this, powers, is that they hired a democratic activist, a person currently working in the democratic party now we have investigated the school. they don't have any republican activists on the staff. he shouldn't be in the classroom in a communications classroom. if he wants to retire from the democratic political machine, then fine. but not while you are working there. do you see that as a problem, powers? >> not in itself.
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if it's disclosed. i don't think because someone has political views they can't be a professor. >> bill: even if they are working, actively working as a vice chair of the democratic party in the county that the school is in? come on. >> no. like adjunct professor. >> bill: then you have to balance. and there wasn't any balance. >> that's fair. there should be balance. >> bill: well there isn't. how do you see, this kate? >> i think the problem is more institutional wide in our colleges and universe universities in that this sort of liberal activism in the classroom is sort of protected by the university structure. it's protected by these absurd campus speech codes and diversity policies where you can't say anything that would slightly offend somebody which is ironic given what happened to this ryan who was deeply offended. but photographers can do or say whatever they want. but if students step outside the leftist orthodoxy even slightly, they are subject to these sensitivity training classes, to being kicked out of classes to even being expelled. that's sort of the lockdown
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of intellectual diversity and the free and open exchange of ideas. the whole point of our university system and then we're see what happens, the chilling effect that's happening on public discourse in general where you can't say anything hurtful or offensive. so there is no conversation anymore. it's just a hurling. >> bill: you can't >> you can't say anything hurtful or offensive on the right. you can on the left. you can call christian as bigot. if you don't believe in global warming you're a traglodyte. the left wing orthodoxy will protect you. if you go out and challenge that then you're in trouble. we've established through surveys and everything else that at the nation's university systems it's heavily weighted towards democrats and liberals on the faculty. on the faculty. do you see that as a troubling
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situation, powers? >> well, i see the results of that. itself, i don't look. i think a liberal can be a great professor. it is a problem what kate is talking about. i agree -- >> no, no, but the numbers are so overwhelmingly left. is that a problem? because you know you're not getting, if you're a college student at many of the major universities you're not getting any balance in the presentation, it's almost indoctrination on sheer numbers. >> i disagree somebody who is liberal or conservative indoctrinates. >> did you go to college? i had those loons all day long. >> i said it's a problem in our universities but i don't know -- i don't think just in itself a person who is liberal or is conservative is going to indoctrinate. >> do you see it as a problem, zma kate.
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>> yes. the liberal course offerings, liberal professor, they bring leftist speakers. it's epidemic. stamford are getting rid of their class on capitalism. university of chicago, 100 professors there didn't want a milton freeman institute despite the gender studies they offer. it's systematic within our universities and it's troubling with what's happening we're churning out these thinks being told what to think. >> 60% of them under 30 voted for the democratic party in the recent presidential election which shows you the indoctrination is working. ladies, thanks very much. coming up on the factor, a death defying stunt is watched by a jaw dropping number
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in the back of the book segment tonight almost 13 million americans tuned in last night to watch daredevil nik wallenda, he walked across the grand canyon on a two inch thick cable. >> praise you god. praise you jesus. how is that reacting now? >> not liking it. >> i can see it. true artiste. >> i don't know about that. [ applause ] >> he's the first person to make that quarter mile trek, 1500 feet in the air. joining us now from boston to explain america's huge appetite for this kind of entertainment is psychiatrist and fox news contributor keith ableu. i missed this i was on a plane.
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i have a fear of heights. i can't even watch that. what is it about us, not just americans it's the world. they like to watch this kind of stuff. is at any time rubber necking syndrome, when you pass an accident on the road you kind of want to see any blood or guts possibilities or what? >> well, look i think there's the rubber necking syndrome but it's more than that because now people are looking for an anecdote to not being human. they want real risk. that's why extreme fighting is crushing boxing as a sport. why? because people want to see real courage, real possible peril. why? because we're addicted to facebook and internet and entitlements that make you less human, less alive, less grounded in your own sense of self. this guy crossed the grand canyon for real and there was no faking it. >> yeah. i guess there's no mirrors.
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are you sure there's no mirrors. there's a reflection. look closely. i'm just teasing. think about it, old evil knievil. you always wondered if there was a stunt double or a bunch of mattresses at the end. you're right. we're looking for something that's not phoney, where there's no strings, where there's no net and i think a lot of people in their lives, dr. ablow feel they are walking on a tight rope. they make the wrong step financially they can lose it all. they are living in this constant state of falling, falling off the wagon if they are addicts. it's an interesting peril. to some competent we're all on the high wire. maybe we don't die if we fall but it's a high wire act. >> sometimes we might. look anybody who knows what it is to start a business, or to start a family, knows that you
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invest. and there are perils. here's somebody saying, no net. identify trained for this. this is a skill i really have. i'm not on steroids. doesn't look like he is. i'm not lance armstrong, i'm not faking it. this isn't the wwe. i could really die. and it's an anecdote for everything in reality. >> i loved hearing him praying. i thought he was going to do the alphabet backwards. if he said the number pi as he could while going across. next time he'll juggle or have a cat on his back. he's got to do something. because this is just too easy at this point for him. dr. ablow, it's great to see you as always. >> that's it for us tonight. before we go, though, bill would like to remind you if you buy
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this, new overnight. lightening strikes a boy scouts camp injuring 2 dozen scouts. we will have details of how they are recovering. >> the irs completes an investigation of itself concluding it did nothing wrong. conservative groups weren't the only ones targeted by the agency. >> can't get to sleep on sunday night? you are not alone. the real reason that day out of all of the others is the worst to get a good night's rest. f "fox & friends first" starts right now. >> we be long in new york city giving you the news this morning. i am angsly air heart. >> great song so start the morning. thank y
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i am heather childers. thank you for starting your day with us. the top five stories making news at this hour. late last night a fun trip turns into a nightmare for dozens of bow scouts in new hampshire, a 23 -- 23 had electric shock burns during a massive thunderstorm. fire officials say the group was taking shelter under the canopy when lightening hit the canopy or the ground. none of the injuries are said to be life threatening. >> the mystery is deepening over where edward snowden is. it's believed the nsa leaker is still in moscow but could board a flight to cuba. secretary of state john cuba says russia and china aren't helping the u.s. but one former prosecutor says the state department should look in the mirror. >> there's a moment in time when this passes from the justice department to the state department. it becomes a matter of policy and it becomes a matter

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