tv Your World With Neil Cavuto FOX News July 8, 2013 1:00pm-2:01pm PDT
>> neil: was it the pilots or the plane? investigators aren't the only one who want to know. so does boeing which offered condolences on its web site today for the families that lost their lives on asiana flight 214. 777, a staple in the air for a decade,. >> welcome everybody, i'm neil cavuto. still so much we don't know about what caused the asiana crash. here's what we do know. a lot more about the guy who piloted the plane than the plane
himself. lee kang-kook, had only 30 hours of experience flying the 777 and never once landing the huge jet at san francisco's often treacherous airport. it's not the plane's maker taking the hit and the heat. it's the plane's pilot. claudia? >> right, neil. investigators with the national transportation and safety board say it too take a year or more to complete their report on exactly what caused the fatal plane crash here, already as you said there are a lot of questions about the pilot at the controls when this plane was coming in for landing. we know from the flight data recorder the plane was coming in too low and too slow, and we know from the cockpit voice recorder the crew tried to board -- abort the landing. we learned the pilot at the controls had never done this kind of landing here before. he had logged 10,000 airs flying
747 and other aircraft, he only had 43 hours on the 777 and this was part of a training session. he had a more experienced copilot by his side but the investigators want to know how well the two communicated with each other. take a listen. >> we're looking to interview all four pilots on the aircraft coming into san francisco. there were two pilots, and many of you all have talked about those two pilots. it was a captain, who was working on his initial separating experience in the 777. he was an experienced pilot and a prior captain but he was working on getting his rating on the 777 and getting initial operating experience in the the. >> disturbing information.one of two teenage girls might have tied. her body waistbands outside the slide but she may have survived
the crash, only to be killed by an emergency vehicle racing to the scene. her injuries are said to be consistent with having been run over, and her parents are on their way here now from china. more than a dozen people remain hospitalized. many said to be listed in critical or stable condition. better news to report here at the airport. three of the four runways are now open so more flights are able to get in and out and more stranded passengers are able to get where they need to go but no word yet on when the fourth runway will re-open. the wreckage of flight 214 will state out there until ntsb investigators have what they need. >> neil: i imagine that would give other folks passing by the creeps. if it was the pilot and not the plane, it is too soon to say the 777s's are out of the woods and the dreamline are won't be
running into the turbulence. too early to tell but what from you heard, what do you think? >> it is early but from all the indications the pilot was -- he had 17 miles straight in final, which means you have 17-miles to set up your landing, seven seconds before the touchdown is the first one anyone noticed the air speed and altitude were too low. there wasn't enough corrective action we know of yet, until the stick shaker goes on and at -- >> what brings the stick shaker on? >> if you are in imminent danger of losing the flight, if you're stalling arings and orderly that's accompanied with the stick pusher to get air speed but they too close to the ground. >> neil: home videos we have seen shows it was obviously very, very low coming in. what was the danger? the traffic tower was telling them they were very, very low.
what do you do, if you're trying to abort the landing, isn't it too late? >> with turbine engines it takes a while. even if you give it full throttle, they have to build up the air speed. >> neil: more difficult with this plane? >> oh, no. this plane has extremely good engines. the pratt and whitney engines are good and efficient, seven seconds they had chance if they reacted, but once the stick shaker went on, they were only two and a half seconds from hitting the wall. so, i don't think at that point, once the stick shaker was on, they had a chance. >> neil: you know, i was mentioning, as was claudia in the report, the wreckage is going to be there for all to see, lanking and taking off. -- landing and taking off. got to be somewhat of a concern. >> if was disconcerting. i was on the flight behind the crash in dallas in 1985, and we
had to come in -- they circled us for a while and we landed beside that, and that's a sight i will never forget. probably why i work in aviation investigation. >> how many died on that flight? i remember. >> well over 100. >> neil: the ibm executives killed on the flight. you know, we have the 787. the dreamliner, the successor to this aircraft, and ill know what they were saying about the pilot, he had very little, if any experience, on this 777. when it comes to the new 787, very few have any experience with it. so, should that give me pause? >> well, it shouldn't in the united states because, by the way in the united states you have to have 100 hours before you can take the plane in. so, you -- >> neil: before you can take the plane -- >> into a landing. >> neil: 100 hours of practicing? it's a new plane. >> but they're building hours. they built them in the stimulator in training and when
boeing sells the plane, usually training cops with it. >> neil: but it does make me think, this is a brand new one, this is new to the world, new to pilots everywhere so should i be nervous or should i just calm down and not be nervous? all taken into account. >> win you have a new plane model there's a period of time where they're working out the bugs and the 777 had it, too. it took a year, year and a half to work out all the bugs and when i was inspector general we were tasked to look at the certification, and sure enough, after kind of a growing period or a learning curve, then it became literally the most reliable and had -- until this accident -- >> neil: there were some bugs, smoke and wiring issues, might be the birthing issues of the plane. >> well, i think that most people if they're concerned bet it -- i'm going to give a little time but i'm anxious to get to try out 787 because i love airplanes. >> neil: i just never want to be
the first one. >> exactly. but they'll have a growing period, and i combed the air witness directives and the records on the 777 to see if there were any clues that might explain this and there was one air worthiness directive back in january, to check the transducers that control the air speed indication and the altitude indication, but presumably they did that. i didn't find anything in the directive on the 777 to cause alarm. >> is there any way we as passenger ares can check would was flying the plane? if somebody told me the pilot never had much experience flying it, and none landing it at san francisco, it's up to you, cavuto, i would say, well, maybe i'll try the next one. >> that's an issue that has come up from time to time after various accidents and consumer groups say we have a right to now how new the pilot is, but there is no federal regulation that require citizen information about that and the first time you hear who your captain is it
when your strapped in and they say, hello, this is can't whomever. >> neil: i remember one flight the captain says, this is my first flight, but the doors were locked. thank you very-very much. always indull knowledge my idiotic question. >> the president is praising a smarter leader. didn't get the memo on the new 600 page rule for his healthcare law. we did. let's just say, not so mart. not -- not so smart. for the taxpayers, downright mean. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004.
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that leave a lot of spending wiggle room because there's no room for checks and balances, at least in the initial draft. no way to check a person's eligibility for health subsidies or whether he or she already has subsidize or benefits. no cross-checking checkings no check, save the big ones the taxpayers are writing to fund this. we're told that will not be the case, but the checks will be there and everything will be verified. >> but they're not there and they're not set up. listen, just like the other day they said they were going to postpone employers that have more than 50 people, not to obtain health insurance. now it says that there's no way to verify. we're going to use the honor system. so, basically, if you -- >> neil: the honor system? >> just we do on the income tax. the honor system. if you make $45,000 or less, you might be eligible for some tax
credit to get insurance, but it's just your word. >> neil: what troubles me, most people are good people, they'll be honest, but there are a lot of people who won't be, and that's double dipping and gouging the system. >> of course. happens in medicaid, happens in food stamps. >> neil: i thought this had all the provisos. >> at the end of the day who is going to do the checking? the irs. imagine how convent prior to the 2014 elections, how convent for you to get a phone call from ther is and is say, by the way, mr. neil, i see here you are asking for tax breaks for your health insurance. we need more information. we need more -- >> neil: wouldn't the irs already know that? >> not necessarily. not a question they have. and basically you're sort of -- the irs just goes with your income, what you make and all that, and it's predicated on moneys you paid last year, not
the year you're currently in. and the irs -- this will be an audit -- don't wants a out did during an election year so how convenient. we're going to take your record. >> neil: means there's no way to check whether someone is gouging the system. >> no way. >> neil: down the road there will be but in the meantime, if you're shrewd and you want to take advantage of this to the max and be covered on m m.r.i.s. how many do you think would do that? >> i think a lot of people would do that. people are still confused. everybody is confused about the health insurance issue. they don't know what is going on. >> neil: do you direct bill them? >> my patients are 100% -- people have different insurance, and we take everything. and -- >> neil: are you more avers to not taking them on if they're going to look like it's a federal labyrinth? >> what is going to happen in
many marketness the u.s., the federally funded programs, medicaid, medicare, things like that, or any hybrid in between, you're not going to find a hospital or the doctors in private practice that may take you in. so, ultimately, this is going to create health systems where you basically cannot choose your doctor, you can't -- pick up the phone and call an 800 number. we have a two tier system? america and it's going to get worse, and ultimately, you call the 800 number. i need an elbow operation. they give you a number -- >> neil: what you're saying, the costs for a lot of these operations and/or procedures, which were supposed to go down under this system, would in fact go up? >> when this legislation came out they said, this not going to cost a lot of money. we got this covered. basically what is happening right now is your adding different costs and now you may have subsidies you might be
giving away that you don't know it's going to get down to your bottom line. so the federal government is basically giving things away to bring you in, in a preelection area, and at the end of the day, this is the system that is completely broken, not going anywhere. but it's going to create chaos, chaos, it's going to create for both doctors, hospitals, consumers, you name it. >> neil: of course the president said that's not the case. the president is welcome on this show to clarify. fair and balanced. when we come back, remember when the government was all over these guys? now it's look looking like it's folding its tent. do you think that is fair? after getting dragged through the mud, charlie on where jon corzine goes to get his good name back. l! the tide's coming in!
neil harwell corzine, cohen, who just dodged bullets. charlie just predicted they would months ago, largely because charlie had a sense the government didn't have the criminal goods on corzine or cohen and looks like neither will face criminal charges after all. not corzine, whose firm imploded on what many thought was a bad bet on interest rates, and not cohen, whose customers bolted on what many feature would be an insider trading charge firm. didn't happen. hasn't happened. doesn't mean it can't happen. but charlie says his central thesis in a crackling good book, the government is circleing around the wrong guys. what do you think their criminal
court futures lock like? >> the criminal charges were highly unlikely. nonexistent, meanus some new information that came up -- minus some new information and never really was. when they charged them with the civil case last week, securities -- the commodities futures trading commission, absence of fraud charge -- >> neil: the dye was cast. >> cohen is a totally different situation, and as i point out in the book, circle of friends, this is a seven year intense investigation of his activities. >> neil: obsessed with it. what's going to come of it? >> the people doing the investigation, mainly the fbi, and the securities and exchange commission, the fbi agent, are pretty determined, smart, investigators. i can't tell you what's going to happen. i do know on a very narrow charge, it's unlikely that steve hoe -- cohen is charged because
there's no witness that needs to flip that hasn't flipped. he has been indicted as well. >> neil: this is years of this and the worst is maybe a couple slaps on the hand. >> they are looking at a potential -- they are convinced -- what the book brings out, they're convinced that -- i'm not saying this. this what they believe, meaning the feds. that the capital runs something like a criminal enterprise. they believe that the guy in the middle. steve cohen, is insulated from the bad stuff. they believe bad stuff occurs around him at a very high pace. >> neil: money has been flooding out of there since the innuendo. >> it's been flooding out because there's a grand jury investigation. you can never say this is over. i think the press got ahead of itself. >> neil: you're saying he's not out of the woods. >> no way. but that doesn't mean -- innocent until proven guilty. >> why do we focus on this?
sometimes we lose the forest for the trees and chase the wrong guys. we miss bigger things. like what? >> one of the central themes of circle of friends -- >> neil: very good you keep repeating the title joshes a lot of my liberal colleagues in the media don't like this. i point out, as they've been going an insider trading which i don't believe is a high crime but grew to jail as if it was a high crime. >> neil: you don't make much money on it. >> a tiny part. but i think, while they were going hog wild on all these other guys, bernie mado was going on. the financial crisis was going on, and they did not want -- guy through this in the book -- not once divert resources and when it came down to it, when they did not have a case in the financial crisis -- another point i make in the book -- they needed something because the public wanted -- >> neil: they want their pound of flesh. >> guess what was sitting there?
it cass very sexy. i got interview the former investigators. they had this very sexy case sitting there with big players like raj and steve cohen and all these guys, wire tapps. steve cohen, they wire-tapped his phone and didn't fiend anything. they now have a sexy case to -- >> neil: but they created the case out of thin air? >> these are real cases. i just don't think they merit when you have bernie madoff going on, insider trading. >> neil: what about guys who have bun the system for bigger amounts. >> that's the bernie bernie -- e madoff, an attorney says i hear your writing a book. insider trading is not that big a deal. i said you you put people in
jail for years. that is a big book. you were going after steve cohen, better investor than warren buffett. that's a story. my point is, do you -- the u.s. government, there's political motive to this. did not have scouts coming out of the financial crisis. i've done a lot of research and people admitted this, off the record, needed a sexy case to appease the public, and here it is. but i will say this. there is a law, an insider trading law, people who did violate this with impunity, steve cohen's firm, steve has never been charged but a lot of people at the firm that have. they believe there's -- where there's smoke there's fire. >> neil: bottom line, mean, it is, as you point out in the book, still a lopsided -- small investors -- >> even of you take insider trading out of it, she small investor should not be going out there rolling the dice against
the big guys. >> neil: do you think is a rigged? >> if you invest in index funs it's not rigged. why roll the dice when these guys we you can invest in these things. >> neil: charlie, the book is great. circle of friends. phenomenal book. puts everything in perspective. the reason why he is the best on the planet. that book the latest example. in the meantime, first the crash and now the courts. >> we're approaching the airport. i'm seeing a column of smoke. >> we're being escorted in right now. we have three ambulances and four -- coming right now.
>> neil: let me ask you something. if you knew the guy flying your plane had not had much experience flying that plane, would you still get on that plane? that could be the basis of what is likely to be a flurry of lawsuits facing asiana airline. a pilot over his head and the airline knew and didn't care. is that fair or right? the lawsuits already are in the works. >> i think they definitely have a case, and there's going to be liability issues with regard to why the airline allowed the pilot to fly with such little experience, and i understand you have to get your training somewhere but not at the expense
of lives and that's going to be the big issue for negligence. >> also look at three other crew members, three other people who we would assume had the power to fly the plane or were, obviously, one of them was still waiting for the -- what do you make of that and whether any of that comes out? >> it will come out. the fact there were more experienced pilots right there imposes more liability on the airline and not less. the airlines going to say, we had people who could jump in if there was a problem. >> neil: we have to decide how they decided that. >> precisely. the fact they had available pilot with the requisite amount of experience there and didn't use them, makes it worse for the airline. there's liability -- potential liability all the way around here from the airport to the airlines and the aircraft to the emergency vehicle that perhaps ran over one of the decedents. >> neil: if that's true, that's
a whole other disaster. the issue that invery my -- invariably comes up, as horrible as this was it could have been worse. so the airline can say, thanks to maybe that pilot orthos other pilots, you know, 150 plus other lives were saved. >> right. when you look at the pictures of the aircraft, it obviously was bad, and i read an article that they say that at it probably miracle only -- not only -- but more people were not killed. >> neil: i hear you. >> i think the airline is going to say, under the circumstances, this pilot did the best he could. it was out of his control. >> neil: but they can't blame it for now on the aircraft manufacturer, can't blame it on boeing. maybe they will but early on it does seem to keep going back to pilot error and that often changes, but an airlines responsibility for said pilot.
>> ultimately the airline will have the most culpability but they have $22.25 billion to pay damages. >> neil: who do does? >> the airline, 2.25 billion in insurance, so those who are injured will be compensated and there is no limitation of liability for the two decedents. sometimes there's a cap on how much you can get when somebody dies. >> neil: it's going to be way beyond this. apparently this was viewable from the airport windows, kids traumatized watching this when they realize it what was going on. a lot of people can join in this. >> all the family members. >> who were waiting. >> right. and the thing -- >> neil: how much does that factor in? >> i think it factors in heavily. when you're dealing with personal injury type cases you name all the possible defendants and all possible victims, whether it be the spouse now without that injured or deceased husband or wife, and one of the other things is that there were
small children on the plane, and there's a whole bunch of factors that come into play. >> when somebody gets injure -- let's say you're on that plane and you're injured and your wifes at home. she can join you as a plaintiff for loss of consortium, and she didn't have to be anywhere near that flight. if you can't be the husband you were, she is entitled to compensation, too. this is a wide ripple effect. >> neil: but we haven't had a serious plane crash in quite a number of years. the commuter crashes and the like. but we have gotten spoiled by the relatively safety and remains very safe. so we're sort of brushing up on how to handle something like this right now. but there is a procedure. what would the immediate procedure be? just count up those who feel -- the victims and the -- then what's the next step? >> the family members are going to seek -- lawyers are going to try to reach out which they're not supposed to ethically but the lawyers will try to
determine -- >> neil: every carrier tries tro make an offer. >> it's the responsibility to prove there was negligence and who is responsible, who breached the duty. >> neil: you have to prove it was neglect. he had 43 hours of experience flying it, not landing it at this airport. it that enough -- >> landing is pretty important. i think, it is per se negligence? they might have a fight on their hands because he had 10,000 hours in other aircraft. >> impeccable track record. >> the aircraft was one of the reasons i would so many people lived, because it was built to withstand low speed, low crashes, which is great. but i -- personally if i'm representing any plaintiff, i'm going to say that pilot -- it was negligent to put him behind the wheel, so to speak.
>> and because he was acting within the scope of his employment it would fall on the airline and that, too, has all the money that will pay out for the victims and plaintiffs. >> well, the good news is it could have been worse. the bad news, it probably doesn't matter in the meantime, can you hear me now? the senate says the snooping scandal may go all the way to the men and women in black. i want to make things more secure.
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share on revenue. 5.83 billion. here is what is getting folk's attention and why the stock is up. it's optimistic this growth will continue when it comes to bread and butter like aluminum, aluminum prices will summer after -- rise. and factory activity is up, and we have hundreds more to come. alcoa typically gets first crack. >> in time for the guys in black to shed some light. a privacy group asking the supreme court to put a stop to it, and one of the lead attorneys for the group. very good to have you with us. >> thanks for having me. >> do you think the court would take this up? normally they try to have a hands-off approach to this sort of thing, especially when it
involves government agencies. >> we think the court will seriously consider our petition because there's a really important legal issue which is the interpretation of the foreign intelligence surveillance act. >> neil: but by interpreting the act doesn't mean -- you're saying just get rid of the nsa period or police it better? >> we're saying that the -- the fbi and the nsa have to follow the law. specifically the provision that limits the records that can be obtain from businesses to those that are relevant to an authorized investigation. >> neil: so grabbing 115 plus million americans phone records is going way beyond the scope and intention of the law. >> correct. >> now, the supreme court might not want to take this up for the very rope these are national security issues, and it doesn't like to second-guess what is being done in the guise of national security. although it does have a history over indicationly reviewing such
policies. >> correct. we believe that on this important question of the breath -- -- the breadth of the law, the supreme court is primed to take this opportunity to consider it. do you think there's any risk that the supreme court would be wading into risky waters here, getting the details on how our security officials deem who is a security threat? in other words, they're spilling state secrets. >> i don't think that's a problem in this case. i think in this case they can decide baited on be current public records whether broad orders under this provision of the foreign intelligence law are allowed or not. they're really interpreting a statutory term here, relevance, that's in the law and their job is to interpret the law. >> neil: okay. you're arguing the nsa exceeded the parameters of the law. do you think the court might then say, let the agencies
police themselves? >> well, our argument is that the court, the lower court, exceed its authority when it granted the order. >> neil: alan butler, thank you. >> is this what happens when you push somebody out of power? forget whether the government is the one shooting. is any hope of egypt ever getting its act together now just shot?
>> a long and hot indeed. we spoke to an eye witness at the scene of this latest incident. he said it was ugly and bloody. happened outside the military barracks where some think mohammed morsi is being delane evidence islamist muslim brotherhood activityists say soldiers fired live ammunition at their followers, and describe it as a massacre and several eye witnesses back up their count. security officials say terrorist groups in the crowd fired first. the soldiers were just defending the building. it has pushed the two sides further apart in this ugly, ugly duel, an islamist party yanked for the military backed interim government. a leading muslim figure here warned of a civil war, and efforts to try to assemble some kind of transition government
seem to be stalled. this does seem to be achieveing, the perception on the ground is that washington, the united states, is mishandling the situation. the pro morsi camp think the white house must have backed what they broadly branded as a military coup. an antimorsi group says unpopular lead are for too long. it's tricky and dangerous terrain here for washington and the folks on the group. >> neil: please be safe. let's just say you're the muslim brotherhood and you figure you gave the political process a chance and you were booted out, forced out. time to go back to the violence for which you used to be known? let's have former top diplomat casey. >> i think now is the critical time. i don't think these threats of, we're going to launch a civil war, going to fight the egyptian military.
i wouldn't give that too much credibility. they've got advanced weapons, the muss lick brotherhood won't. i worry that some in the muslim brotherhood are going to an arey go forth to perform terrorist attacks, and try to stop shipping in the suez could you argue, look, we are democratically elected. a lot of folks -- a lot of folks were but we are duly elected. now we are being forced out. we give elections in democracy, whatever you want to call it. and we are getting shot. >> these guys -- hitler was elected too. he started dismantling democracy. >> here's what was going here m. >> you bet. what morsi did initially, he
tried to crush parliament and persecuted -- >> they must know that then, right? >> but most importantly, it is the economy, stupid. in egypt and america. >> economy going well without it have tolerated. >> it i think maybe. the economy has just cratered. violent crime something like 500%. the poverty rate in egypt in one year increased 100%. half of the egyptians, the only thing they have to eat the subsidized bread they get from their government. the government is running out of money because, guess what, in foreign investment in egypt. wealthy egyptians getting their money out of egypt. egyptians abroad normally would send back at home, they are not doing that. >> how do we -- stay inside? >> that's worse than we can do. i think we played it wrong every step of the way. at this point we should have pulled aid from morsi when he was starting to trample on democracy. we didn't.
we stood silently by. now that we have a second chance, a do-over in the revolution, the united states should not pull a. we should realize -- >> given the aid. >> that's not a gift. it is a tool. and i'm always interested in giving aid if it advances my country's best interests. in had case, if the united states -- >> i mean, for tall money we spend -- >> we have that lever and don't use. >> it we have a history of giving money to the wrong people. too much, too little? >> what we don't do is use it like you and i would use allowance was our kids. it is a reward if you do well and if you don't do well, we are taking it away. we have never -- >> i don't buy that. >> i thought your kids were perfect. >> you are saying that we -- at the very least we better be more scrutiny towards every time we give out here. tweend have a bad track record. >> look what we did with morsi when he was squishing democracy.
we didn't cut aid. we gave him additional military equipment. >> we wanted to him like us i don't care if anybody likes us. do stuff that advances our own interests. it is in our interests to have a stable egypt. it is in our interest to have a trade of the suez canal continue. >> who steps in? >> well, then maybe nobody steps in. hope reply if we help out the gulf -- gulf states step in as well with food and assistance. guess what, nobody steps in, and this economy continues to fall. by the end of the year you will have food rye not egypt. you are going run out of food. world's largest importer of wheat and without currency to buy that wheat on the world market they don't have enough to feed their people. once you have that, then you undo what henry kissinger did 40 years ago which is to take egypt out of the equation. >> speaking of whom, he will be my special guest tonight on fox business. henry kissinger on what we do about the growing mess in egypt
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have you ever, ever wanted to run for office but afraid of what dirt they would dig up on you? don't be. because these days i'm telling you, anyone can run for political office. eliot spitzer and weiner to thank because no matter what you think of number mine and number ten, these guys are back. which means anyone can have their shot. i mean -- their chance. because i have been keeping abreast of this. i have been -- on top of this. i mean, i have been following this. here is what i concluded.
no matter what you have in your closet, chances are it doesn't -- i mean it doesn't compare to what these guys have h in theirs. it could explain why the love gov is gunning for new york city comptroller. that's also true. spitzer figure he has nothing to lose at an election of no names but pretty much everything to win. and he can look to no less than mark sanford for inspiration, south carolina governor, given up for dead after he took up with a girlfriend in argentina. now he's going to congress and even if his former wife is not. who are we to judge? just as it appears we are very forgiving when we do which i guess is good. and for former senator really good. look at bill clinton. he's a rich elder statesman. model to young people everywhere. i can remember when he was just a catch chasing a young intern. back thrown the brink of getting thrown out of office, now a rock star, might help the very wife
that stayed with him get into that office. i'm told this is because issues matter and apparently being horny does not. so -- all you kads out there start your engine and run now. just don't text it. do it. i mean, announce it. because you keep your clothes on, you will lust to the top of your limp competition in a new york minute. seize the day. just make sure you don't seize anything else while you are running up the poll. i mean, running up the charts. i mean -- good luck. have at it. boy, this copy just came flowing to me today. i was -- so many easy ones. all right. we are going to be exploring that and phenomenon of who may be back and what to make in this country and what it says about this country and whether anyone pair game to run for the highest office in the land and whether our next stop. that's coming up on "fox business." you get the kind of news you can use. everyone else is just hard up
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