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so we're actually going to post my old interview with baby lisa's parents on facebook for you. also we'll that piece with brit hume about how obama was passed. follow me on twitter @megyn kelly. this is "the kelly file i ". and welcome to "hannity." tonight they were warned damning new evidence has emerged that the obama administration knew the obama care web site was not ready for primetime, yet they went ahead with their launch date anyway. what else aren't they telling you, the american people? it time to get to the bottom of this national embarrassment. >> nobody's madder than me about the fact that the web site isn't working as well as it should, which means it's going to get fixed. >> they knew it would fail. >> as would any launch of a maybe web operation like this,
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there were going to be glitches and kinks. >> the warning signs were ignored. >> we've added more staff to the call centers. >> i listened to the president and called the obama care hotline. >> hello? >> thank you for calling the call center. how are you doing today? >> wait until you hear what the operator had to say. >> have you ever caught anybody that really likes it yet? >> no, not really. >> plus, spepeter schweizer exps vast new areas of corruption in his brand new book "extortion." "hanni "hannity" starts right here right now. >> in a moment i'll be joined by kentucky senator rand paul. he's pushing a constitutional amendment to prevent congress from writing laws with specific provisions for lawmakers. i want to share an experiment i
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conducted yesterday on my radio show. >> we updated the web site's home page to update more information about the other avenues to enroll in affordable health care until the online option works for everybody. you'll find information about how to talk to a specialist who can help you apply over the phone. >> since we demonstrated time and again on this program thanks to the co-host of "fox & friends first," it's nearly impossible to sign up for obama care online. i took the president's advice from yesterday, i tried to sign up over the phone. and i had, well, just as much luck. >> how is the phone volume? the president gave out your phone number zip did not know that. >> i've been having trouble getting on the web site. >> right now from what i heard, our system is down for like the next 42 hours. no one is able to get in but if they call us, we can help them fill out an application as long as they went online to create an
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account first. >> well, that's the point. i can't get online to create the account so how would i be able to create an account if it's down for the next 42 hours? >> you would have to wait until the 42 hours. >> did you create an account yourself? >> no, sir, i have mine through my employer. >> how come people are having so much trouble? >> we have a glitch in the system. >> did they tell what you to say? >> we have a script for that. >> 15 million of you don't have to call in because we've got all the help right here. and we'll get the script read to us immediately. >> are you ready? >> yeah, read the script. let's hear. >> it's saying thanks for your interest in the health insurance marketplace, we are having a lot
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of visitors trying to use our web site right now in is causing some glitches for some people trying to create an account or log in. keep trying and thanks for your patience. you might have better success during off-peak hours, later at night or early in the morning. we'll continue working to improve the site so you can get covered. that's it. >> so you went through a week worth of training to learn how to do that? you know they spent $634 million to get that web site up and going and they can't get it going right? what do you think of that? >> oh, my gosh. i don't know what to say. i did not know that. >> they're telling you to tell us to check back in on the web site and off hours. does that mean i should go on at 3:00 in the morning? >> it was saying early in the morning and late at night but some people say they do that and they still can't get in. >> so people are reporting to you the real deal? >> yes, sir, they are. >> yeah. have you ever caught anybody that really likes it yet?
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>> no, not really. >> oh, you're cracking me up. >> joining me now with reaction, it's fine but it's sad, kentucky senator rand paul. i mean, the woman was very nice, by the way. she was being very honest and nobody likes it and all they're doing in the calls is sending you back to the web site that's not working. you can't make this up, senator. >> you know, it doesn't surprise me. i've dealt with government for over 20 years in the practice of medicine. if we have a question we want to ask medicare, it can sometimes take an hour. the people in my office would get on speed dial and just keep dialing over and over and then they'll only answer two questions. so the government is just not very efficient at handling this. that's why it's a big danger turning a sixth of your economy, our health care is a sixth of our economy, turning all that over to government in one fell swoop. i think the glitches are going
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to last quite a while. >> the other thing is, i was on the air today, we made another call-in. first we got hung up on. then i made another call, got put on hold, played nice music and then got to a supervisor and the supervisor said "shut him down, shut him down," that's what the phone line did today. >> i don't think this is going to resolve itself soon. the big thing people will discover, if you mandate what is included in your insurance policy, it has to cover all kinds of new things that haven't been covered, it has to be more expensive. there's no way it can be cheaper. it has to be more expensive if you mandate what it includes. >> we're going to put up the heritage foundation study, state by state what the premiums are going to increase, forbes
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magazine says 92% for men, 68% for women. if that's the case, why did we do this when the president said that would not be the case? >> see, i think you've always had two competing problems in health care. one is access, people didn't have insurance, and the other is cost. i think they are really going after the access. they're trying to give everybody insurance, but they ignored the cost of the insurance. in my 20 years of practicing medicine, the biggest complaint i got from people who paid for their own insurance or who were employed or who were employers was the cost of insurance. i think this reform has done nothing, in fact i think it will elevate the cost of your insurance. >> they've put together these propaganda ads. they can't just be honest about it so they get young people, this is the greatest thing ever. we'll run them during the show tonight. here's one of them.
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>> i couldn't wait for the health insurance marketplace to open. i knew my husband and i were going to save money. we've been spending a fortune on health insurance each month. the site was very easy to use and the customer service representatives were patient and helpful. the plan i picked will save us hundreds of dollars each month. it has better coverage, lower deductibles and lower co-pays. i couldn't be happier that my family and i are covered. >> you can be covered, too. >> they're telling us something -- that to me is like old former soviet union propaganda. doesn't it sound like it to you? >> the thing about it is if it's so good and it's free and it's going to be so easy to get on the web site, why do they have to advertise to get you to do it? why do they have to go door to door to convince people that obama care is so great. why do we have to convince
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people to buy it? i think they're deathly afraid that young healthy people are going to look at this and say this isn't better than what i've got currently and may be more expensive than what i've got currently. >> the laws and burdens, we place on we the people, they must apply to them as well. what a great idea. >> martin luther king wrote from a letter in a birmingham jail said a just law is a law that applies to everyone, has to be binding on everyone. if you exclude a group, that's an unjust law. there have been a lot of times in our history, originally congressional members were exempt from social security. that's not true now because people got mad about it. but really the law should be applied equally to everyone. i think that's a basic precept of the law. i think maybe we'll get some
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bipartisanship on this and maybe we'll get it passed. >> this is the president, jay carney, kathleen sebelius, who i think should be fired. this is them in denial about how bad this is. listen to them. i want to you respond to them. >> it's not failing. hundreds of thousands of americans are submitting their applications successfully to get into the system and enroll in obama care. >> all this person has to do is fill in their name and the computer's like what are you doing to me? why is it so hard? >> it's better today than it was yesterday and it will keep getting better. >> all tolled, more than half a million consumers across the country have successfully submitted applications through federal and state marketplaces. while the web site will ultimately be the easiest way to buy insurance through the marketplace, it isn't the only way pip wa way. i want to emphasize this. even as we're redoubling our efforts to get the site workings
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as it's supposed to, we're redoubling our efforts that you can buy plans the old fashioned way, off line. >> here's the president, saying it's as easy as buying a tv on amazon. >> just visit, and you can compare plans side by side, the same way as you'd pie a tv on amazon. you'll be presented with a list with clear descriptions of what each plan covers and what it costs. you'll find more choices and competition and in many cases lower prices. most americans will find they can get covered for $100 or less. >> it's all not true. >> the thing is about this, sean, is this is a fundamental misunderstanding. liberals have no idea how capitalism works.
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they have no idea why when you go to walmart products are cheap. imagine we took obama care to walmart and you had a $10 co-pay. they don't understand the efficiencies that go into distribution and trade and how you can get something, a t-shirt now for $9 because of global trade, efficiencies in the marketplace. the government can never duplicate that because the government is inherently inefficient. >> well said. senator, good to see you. when we come back, we have new information tonight that they knew this would fail but they decided to launch anyway. plus, you've been voting on day for tonight's video of the day. your first option, the man who
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and welcome back to "hannity." in yet another stunning example of the administration's arrogance and mismanagement, according to a report in "the washington post," days before the launch of president obama'sline health insurance and marketplace, government officials and contractors tested a key part of the web site to see if it could handle tens of thousands of consumers at the same time.
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it crashed after a simulation in which just a few hundred people tried to log on at the same time. quote, about a month before the exchange opened, this testing group urged agency officials not to launch it nationwide. take a look. >> i'm not familiar with the testing that was done. i would refer you to hhs for that. what i can tell you is that we are fully aware of the fact that even though it's getting better every day, the web site has not performed in the manner that we expected it to perform. we knew there would be glitches. we did not expect the volume and did not expect the kinds of problems that we have seen. that's why at the president's direction, we are addressing this problem 24/7. >> it seems like a big deal that days before the launch this test is done with hundreds of people and the system crashes. my question is was anyone at the white house informed of that? was the president informed of
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that? >> i don't know any specific test. would i send to you hhs. >> i'm confused. is the hhs not part of the obama administration? because of all of this, the more the white house should delay the individual mandate immediately. frankly, we'd be best off without any of this. joining me to help try and sort through all the spin, the democratic strategist trying to heap upon you, our guests, three years, $26 million, a 12-year-old could build a better web site. >> i hardly doubt that. this is about demand. this is about the million who is came online trying to find health care. >> that's not true. >> and if anything they undershot just trying to test it -- >> they couldn't get 300 people on. >> they were saying coding was the issue, it had nothing to do with the traffic. look at all of these privately run web sites that somehow don't have these issues. now, you know, i think i'm going
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to call barack obama the absentee president. everything that happens on his watch somehow isn't his problem. he didn't know what's going on with respect to benghazi. every issue, whether it's targeting conservative groups at the irs is how detached from him. >> let me ask you a question. if there's a private corporation, they spend $634 million and they failed this miserably, what would happen to the person responsible for that task? >> they'd get fired. >> let's talk about the private corporations who were in charge of health care. >> answer what would happen in the private sector if somebody had this big a debacle. >> the shareholders would get rid of them. >> so with why isn't sebelius fired? >> the free market failed us on insurance. 3 million people left uninsured. >> i don't want your spin.
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why does she still have a job? if the private sector would fire somebody, why is she still working? >> i think the administration does need to go through. >> needs to what? i want to hear you say it. >> i at this he needs to go through and figure out where the fundamental breakdown is. >> she's in charge. >> i don't know where the buck stops with what happened with the web site. >> she should be fired. >> i think there needs to be some analysis around that. >> this drives me nuts. the worst part is they can't admit it. now they put out these little ads to make you think everything is so simple and so easy. watch this. >> my name is daniel. i'm going to college for computer science. i enrolled on a plan on i already had insurance answered want -- and i wanted to see if i could get a better plan and i did. because of my income as a
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student, i only pay about $70 a month for it. getting insurance this good at this price, i'm thrilled. >> they're lying to us. >> people aren't stupid. people are actually trying to get on the web site and can't. they're looking at this and saying why are they insulting my intelligence? in the same way can you talk at obama care and see how much great it is. but when people look at their checkbooks and see costs have risen, they're not fooling people. they're a lot smarter than people give them credit floor. >> people are frustrated. the web site flaws are significant but they're not fat fatal. >> the liberals aren't giving up. >> the consumers aren't. >> we were told it was $900 billion.
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it's three times that. you look at forbes, the average male is going up -- >> i would like to see those numbers. everything i've seen, particularly in a state like new york, we're cutting our rates 45, 50%. a lot of states have not bought into this at all, which is complicating the whole process. there's free money sitting on the table to help people get access to health care and their state legislatures won't buy into the program. >> there's no talking to you people in the left. >> all you're doing on the right -- >> it's the difference between listening to rhetoric and looking at the facts. you look at this web site and look at the glitches and i would like to ask barack obama if you were warned this site was not ready for primetime, why did you have release it?
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>> you want to know why? because this is the holy grail of liberalism. >> course. it's falling apart in front of our eyes anyway. we're seeing it anyway. >> see you want -- then help solve the problem. don't shut down the government -- >> purchasing insurance across state lines. >> the president wouldn't negotiate. >> because you were trying to completely defund obama care. >> no, after defund they say delay. the president wouldn't delay and it's not ready. >> which he may have to do now. >> you don't care that the president promised you a $2,500 savings and it's going to cost you $7,500 more a year? >> oh, as long as yours going down --
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>> no r, there are other americs as well. >> coming up, peter schweizer will reveal how much extortion and corruption is going on inside washington. and alan grayson is now comparing the tea party to the kkk. will he get away with this? and later, you've been voting all day for tonight's video of the day. option number two was the attempted cab robbery. the female robber threatens the male dr
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and welcome back to "hannity." my next guest is here to unveil his explosive new book, which exposes corruption in washington which will blow your mind. it addresses charging for committee assignments, so self--loan loopholes for cash, pacs for laughic lifestyles and the doj.
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>> the facts led to members of congress and self-enrichment and the schemes you were talking about earlier. i think the fancts are the fact. i think the facts are undeniable. >> these are republicans and democrats? >> these are republicans and democrats. it's a little like the squeegee men that used to be in new york city, they'd walk up to your car and say i want to clean your windshield, they have a brick in one hand and a cloth in the other hand and you have is to allow them or they'll break your windshield. >> all these guys have their own little pacs, which is different because campaign finance rules say they can't use their campaign money so they set up a pac but they can use that money for their own lifestyle. >> that's right. literally they have a couple of pockets in which they can
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deposit cash. >> and rob andrews went to a wedding overseas and used pac money. >> that's right. it's not just about winning election, sean, it's a lifestyle subsidy. it's a way for them to live large beyond their budgets. >> you have a congresswoman, napolitano, 18% interest? >> you loan your own campaign money and you don't pay it off for 15 years and you charge 18% interest. so she bagged hundreds of thousands of dollars that contributors were putting in her pocket. >> maybe it's me or maybe it's lad they did it up on "60 the piece because people need to know this. a big part of your book deals with the obama administration. they didn't focus on that part. >> big problems with the obama
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administration. eric holder is the squeegee guy holding the brick. >> explain. >> there's a couple of things going on. first of all, literally there are companies being told they're subject to department of justice investigation, criminal and civil and literally those companies are solicited to donations to the obama campaign and now to obama political committees and there is statistical evidence in the book that literally you cut your chances of going to jail in half if you make a contribution. the other this evening is after 2010 mid-term elections where they had that stunning defeat in congress, they targeted the industries that financed the tea party candidates that got elected. that was the independent oil and gas sector, for example. they literally days after president obama made that famous statement "we're going to punish our political opponents," they sent out an industry sweep letter which said you are subject to criminal investigation and you better share and cooperate.
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it was a clear intimidation tactic used. the top financers in 2012 were all subject to department of justice criminal charges. >> you're describing like a banana republic here. you're describing corruption at every level of government. >> the world bank and these are not anti-obama entities, they do a study every year on competitiveness of countries. since 2009 in both of these major studies, the united states has gone from being in the middle of the pack among advanced industrialized countries and perceived corruption to know in 2013 we are at the bottom of the pack, now seen as the most prone to corruption of any industrialized country notice world. that's how far it slipped and how quickly is slipped. >> the worst part is you're telling us in this book is the justice department is right in the middle of it.
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>> they are. you have the top five positions at doj beginning with eric holder were all campaign bundlers for the obama campaign. so much you had fund-raisers raising money to put him into power who you now making decisions about who they're going to prosecute and who they're not going to prosecute. so you see this melding of the doj and the obama campaign. >> i want to make clear here, the book is right here, it's an excellent book and excellent reed, 600 footnotes. you really dotted your eyes and crossed your ts. >> this is not opinion, it's fact. "60 minutes" reported on it, the "new york times." >> though they didn't talk about the obama part. >> i was saving that for you, sean. >> peter, great work as usual. >> thanks for stopping by. a lot more coming up here tonight on "hannity."
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>> at this point the tea party is no more popular than the klan. >> if you think those words are bad, wait until you see the picture that goes along with that. the left has achieved a new low thanks to congressman grayson. >> and some very lucky fisherman whose boat caught fire after the coast guard put out an urgent message to all ships in the area, another boat came to the rescue. you can join us at twitter @sean hannity and we'll continue.
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supporters yesterday, florida congressman alan grayson included this picture with a burning cross for the "t" in tea party as you see here. it read, quote, "now you know what the "t" stands for. earlier today we reached out to the congressman's office for a response. we received a bizarre rambling diatribe from the congressman service about what unidentified tea members have allegedly said over the years. he say "there is overwhelming evidence that the tea party is the home of the bigotry and discrimination in america today." this comes only a few days after the liberal lawmaker said this -- >> they're appalled by the tea
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party tactics where they come to the president and congress and say if you don't let us steal your car, we'll burn down your house. they're appalled by the way the treat party cheered down the shutting of the government and put our credit at risk and costing almost $24 billion. frankly, they want their money back and they want the tea party out of their lives. at this point, the tea party is no more popular than the klan. >> gentlemen, welcome to the program. nyjer, i'm a proud member of the tea party. i've been at rallies. most tea party people i know, they clean up after themselves. i've never heard any bigoted statements. there are people of all racial backgrounds in the tea party that i know and that you know. what's your reaction to that? >> i'm a leader within the tea
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party movement and i'm a rock star in most places where the tea party operates and i come out to speak. there's no question about it. sean, you know this, for years i've been talking about this phenomenon called the al sharptonization of the democratic party, which ironically al sharpton doesn't even do anymore, but these guys are into racial demagoguery and to the the most coarse race baiting possible and i want your views to go to my web site and sign the petition to end race baiting racism because it is racism, end it now. >> what do you think, richard fowler? are you going to stand by what members of your party are saying? >> i think there are a lot of people who have called the tea party names over the past couple weeks, including former lily onf their own, john mccain.
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>> answer me question. are you going to stand by al and grayson? >> he's been clear to say the tea party has held people hostage. >> i'm not sure what you don't understand. i'll say it slowly if you need it said slowly. do you support and agree with and condone what he said? >> i think there's a lot of people calling the treat party names. >> i didn't ask you -- let me say it slower. do you agree and support what alan grayson said? it a yes-or-no question. >> i agree that the tea party as popularity rating is close to that the of ku klux klan. >> he doesn't want to answer this question, niger, does he? >> i understand why richard is doing what he's doing. he's trying to distract the american people. the democrats want to make the tea party the issue and they want to destroy the tea party. i wish there were not
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establishment republicans helping to do that. i understand richard is trying to distract from the fact that we are $17 trillion in debt, that there are nearly 50 million americans on food stamps, that women employment is the lowest in 24 years, and this is after seven years of a democrat-controlled senate, after five years of a democrat presidency. and check this out, richard. i'd like you to comment on this. in a poll last summer, democrats believe -- democrats -- believe the american dream is dead. so with those types of abysmal statistics under democratic leadership and a neolism that exists among democrats, i don't blame you, richard, for trying to make the tea party the issue. >> wait a second. the reason why the american dream is in peril has to do with the fact that this republican
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party trampled on women's rights and refused to pass the violence against women's act, not renewing the voting rights act. >> the reason the economy is not doing well is because republicans have trampled on the rights of women. is that what you're saying? that is dumb. that is ridiculous. >> i'm going off the point he made that he said the american dream is dead. >> i didn't say that. democrats are saying that, richard. >> that's not true. >> john boehner and members of the house can't get the work done. >> let me go back to the rhetoric. the president says the republicans want dirty air and dirty water and they want to throw granny over the cliff and we see all those ads. the president also lectures on discourse in this country. and i ask you a simple country about alan grayson calling tea party members -- comparing them to the klan and you don't have the moral strength and fortitude to say that's just
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inappropriate, that's not true and that's wrong. are politics that important to you that you just -- you cannot just state the obvious, that that was dumb of him to say it and it's inaccurate and untrue? do you have the integrity to just admit that? >> wait a minute, sean. the argument that i think is very clear here is that democrats aren't the only ones throwing names at the tea party. john mccain is throwing names at the tea party. >> give me an example. >> john mccain -- john mccain called the tea party out and called them derogatory names last week. >> give me a comparable example where some conservative in this country is referring to the president -- >> john mccain called the tea party hobbits last week. >> john mccain is a republican and he's not a conservative. most conservatives doesn't even agree with him. perception shapes reality. >> you answered our question. you don't have the courage to do it so i got it.
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>> richard, i hope you join the millions of americans that are six of this race baiting racism that's an insult to our heritage of next elections. >> to and be the first to sign on to the petition. >> i won't do it. >> we appreciate your talking points. you did a very good job of reading them. >> coming up, a push for schools to close on muslim holidays in this country. will that controversial topic soon be coming to a town near you? and later, you've been voting all day no matter how busy your morning you can always do something better for yourself. and better is so easy with benefiber. fiber that's taste-free, grit-free and dissolves completely.
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welcome back to hannity. there is a growing movement calling for new york city schools to recognize muslim holidays by closing on two of
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the holiest days of the muslim calendar year. two mairl candidates have come up within support of the care initiative saying it's a matter of resuspect and schools should treat the days as they do christian and jewish holidays. do you think this is a good idea? here to debate it is michelle shields. explain why you want this. mr. mr. abbas. >> this is an effort by the american muslim community as well as the school district, as well as -- . >> i have an article here that actually says care is in fact pushing new york schools to recognize muslim holidays so it's right there in this article. i've got. >> well, you're right that care is part of a group that has -- has.
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>> glad we clarified that. >> sean, what is important to understand is that this is a effort that is recognized by both city council in 2008, 2009, and resolutions that it's passed and also, this reflects the wisdom that school district takes to acknowledge that -- hold on. >> no. answer the question. listen. no filibustering, what percentage of the kids in the school district are muslim? >> almost estimates between 12% and 13% of the school autos 12%? that sounds thigh me. >> that is what the new york daily post is reporting. >> it's not a newspaper in new york. there is no such newspaper called new york daily post. >> as well as rate of attendance tuesday fell from average 97%. down to 87%. and i have to -- . >> let's bring michelle in. >> what happens is that the school district is limiting
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resources. i was a former teacher, sean. >> i get it. we have another guest on the program. let her talk. >> as a teacher -- . >> come on. come on, not funny anymore. >> teachers and other students. >> what kills me is that politically correct police came out and told us they didn't want schools to recognize religious holidays. so that why we don't celebrate christmas or easter. now, it's easter break, spring break. now they're back saying we changed our minds we want to recognize religious holidays but only muslim holidays. so crazy. >> what is your reaction to that mr. abbas? >> not true. new york schools do take off for the primary jewish holidays. they do take off for the -- . >> they don't celebrate it. >> it's winter break. >> the school district responsibility isn't to celebrate religious holidays. >> you don't know anything about it. i live in new york. let me educate you.
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>> let me tell you, sean. what the purpose of the school district here. >> they don't celebrate christmas and haun caw. >> the school district isn't responding to a celebration. the school district is saying is the school district is acknowledging that 10% more of the population that the school is attending needs to have that day off. >> my question to you is how do you justify giving holidays and special days in accommodating one group not another? this is a slippery slope. where does it end? who do you give it to? not give it to? >> the city council disagrees with you. >> they want votes. obviously. come on. >> also, the parents union also disagrees with you. and remember, when 10% -- this is important point, sean, when 10% of the student population missing school, that creates more work for teachers.
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