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understand that. it's doing very well thanks to a lead-in from someone we know. i'm killing time here and getting in trouble. i'm bill o'reilly. the spin stops here. we are definitely looking out for you. >> i'm megyn kelly and this is "the kelly file." breaking tonight, my voice. along with the president's new effort to save his health care law. pl plus, what's the new push to defend the president from this now infamous broken promise. >> if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. you can keep your plan. >> and breaking developments in the rape case against a star quarterback heisman trophy contender. >> unfortunately sometimes one-night stands happen. >> and this marine may have saved a half dozen lives when he fell on a grenade. why doesn't the military want to give him a medal?
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we'll try to get through the hour together. bear with me. this is getting uglier by the moment. there is a lot of news. we'll get you through it. just breaking, the president making new comments on the problems for the health care law including whether anyone will be held accountable for failures thus far. first there is new reaction to the death of former south african president nelson mandela. he died peacefully at 95. over the last few hours everyone from the pope to our living presidents have reacted. he was born the son of a tribal chief later rising through the ranks of the anti-apartheid movement dedicated to ending the system of white racist rule in south africa. he was arrested and stood trial multiple times before being sentenced to the life in prison in 1964 plotting to overthrow the government. he became a global boll of resistance and was freed in 1990. listen.
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>> i stand here before you not as a prophet but as a humble servant. >> when nelson mandela left that prison, fox news political analyst juan williams was in south africa and spent days at the mandela home. juan, great to see you. what an extraordinary experience it must have been for you. your thoughts on his passing? >> he's one of the greats of the 20th century, megyn. i don't think there is a question when people think about figures that transcend freedom's struggle and inspire people no matter their race, religion. nelson mandela's name will be among them. i was just awed by this guy but in person he was more curious
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about the united states, the civil rights movement in this country than he was interested in talking about himself. again, that's evidence of what a curious mind is, what an open-minded person nelson mandela was. >> he got out of prison in 1990, well after the civil rights movement had undertaken in earnest in this country. he was fascinated by it. do you think he learned from it? >> he certainly did. one of the things that strikes me as you ask the question is that he was asking me about not only the civil rights movement. remember, there is a big difference in south africa the majority is black. in the united states the majority is white. mandela was fascinated with the idea that here in the united states black people were able to have a civil rights move lt and a nonviolent civil rights movement and achieve rights for themselves under the constitution. he was taken with the founding fathers. he knew about it. in south africa you have a majority black population, no
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constitution, no rights. he was curious how did that black american minority manage to get rights and freedoms? that's what strikes me. remember, he was a trained lawyer. he has an appreciation for the founding fathers. he had an appreciation at the time i was talking to him for people like thurgood marshall. how does a black person end up on the supreme court? he was curious about reagan who sent a black ambassador to south africa, edward perkins. he knew ro nald reagan fought with congress over the use of constructive engagement to put pressure on the south african government. he knew teddy kennedy would be a supporter of ending sanctions of overriding anything reagan did. he was surprised that bob dole, a republican white senator from kansas, was a huge supporter of
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the anti-apartheid movement and curious that edward perkins, reagan's man in south africa, shows up and is pushing the south african government for his freedom. he's curious about how does american politics work? you guys are doing things that are curious to me, is the way he would put it. >> one of your memories of him is his capacity to give. you wrote it would have been so easy to hate. >> there is no question. let me tell you something. he's a guy that made friends of the white prison guards. when he got out he was greeting people left and right. black and white. colored. everybody. he stopped in the home, in fact, of a white couple. they weren't expecting anybody but it's nelson mandela out of prison stopping because he was overwhelmed. but it gives you a sense.
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it's human nature to be angry and bitter after 27 years in jail, breaking rocks. here comes nelson mandela. this makes him so astonishing as a human being, as a man is he didn't have it in him. when he was sentenced to jail in 1964 to life plus five years he stands up and says, yes, i'm for using violence the to over throw the government. i'm not standing here for black domination or white domination. i am for racial harmony. imagine that. >> imagine that. juan, thank you very much. >> you're welcome, megyn. we'll have more on the death of nelson mandela when charles krauthammer joins us shortly. another big breaking story is a push from the president to save his health care law. in the middle of the troubled rollout and plunging poll numbers here is an interview tonight that read like an effort to win back support from
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liberals and young people. >> i understand why people would have been resistant to going on a website that wasn't working right. fortunately because of some very hard work, we now have it to the point where for the vast majority of people it's working well. my message to young people is look for yourself. >> even as the president spoke, a new poll and our cameras are finding a growing number of young people unhappy with the president and even more unhappy with obama care. our fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry is live on the north lawn. ed? >> good to see you. for the second straight day the president is dealing basically with what's become a rebellion from the base. yesterday he spoke to a liberal group about income inequality and attended a youth summit to fire up students. today, as you mentioned an msnbc interview at american university with till disillusioned students. we caught up with the disappointed students.
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even as they defended them they said they know nothing about the law. listen. >> promise to bring the cost of health care law. unemployment is an issue in our generation. when i graduate from college i want a job open in the marketplace for me. >> i try to keep up with the news. i couldn't tell you what the affordable care act does. >> these are the young, healthy people they need to sign up to make the the math for the law work. some of them on the campus of american university where the president was today is saying i follow the news and i don't know what this law does, three years later. this is why white house officials say the president is out there making a more aggressive case. they are optimistic that the website is getting better and young healthy people will sign up but so far not so much. meg megyn. >> the numbers aren't good. joining us with more, host of power play on fox live. i even read that long intro
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despite this voice. >> you should be on honeyed tea, not plugging internet television. >> just so the viewers know, honeyed tea, something without medicine in it. something with honey in it. rikola. that's all i've got. >> you're going to be a bumblebee. >> let's talk about the polls. i get it. some of the polls from harvard university. do you disapprove or approve of his job performance? 54% disapprove. do you approve of obama care? 57% disapprove. are you likely to enroll in obama care? 45% unlikely. 22% likely. is that what this is about, chris? >> it is. one of my favorites in that harvard university and student politics poll is where 47% say they would recall the president from office if they could. they would take him out of his job today if they could.
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by the time we got to the obama care crash, we had six months of the worst beginning of a presidential second term since richard nixon. it was bad. this presidency was off on the wrong track. it was off on the wrong track on the nsa which was a massive breach of trust. this much spying was a massive breach of trust with the voters. young v those issues. they live online, on the internet, on their devices. the president was snooping. he deceived them about that. that breach of trust might have been forgiven because it was related to national security. when that's compounded and amplified by a deception about people's health insurance and then, ironically for the internet president, the guy who was so good at spying on the internet now can't even build a website. it was too much and the bottom
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dropped out. >> on top of the fact the employment rate for the millennials is really dreadful. it hasn't been going in the right direction. this week he's done outreaches to the group. is this about getting them to enroll in obama care. >> no. >> or getting them to vote democrat. >> it almost doesn't matter who enrolls in obama care. the president made it clear this law, with grim determination, would be dragged forward into existence. they have laid the ground work for bailing out the insurance industry. they have done things to say whatever the case this law is going into place . that was about keeping the 30% of his base together he needs for this not to turn into a crisis. >> i wonder if this is how demi moore feels? like every word is an effort to get out. >> i hope you feel better, counselor. >> thanks, chris. >> you bet. >> i'm curious. is it irritating or saucy? has it crossed over to
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disgusting yet? let me know. follow me on twitter @megyn kelly. coming up, president obama made interesting remarks about why he wants to see a return to one party rule. charles krauthammer reacts. did the obama white house quietly pass a rule giving unions a huge tax break under obama care? that investigation is next. later, a bus full of kids so out of control the driver had to call the cops. wait until you hear who wound up in trouble. >> [ bleep ] focus on what you're doing. what if you hit somebody? you think it's [ bleep ] funny, look at me like a man. you want to grow up and be a man? look at me like a [ bleep ] man. ] i better take something. [ male announcer ] dayquil cold and flu doesn't treat all that. it doesn't? [ male anner ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast-acting antihistamine. oh, what a relief it is!
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from the world headquarters of fox news, it's "the kelly file" with megyn kelly. well, for several weeks now we have seen reports about unions complaining over a new obama care tax that is reportedly pricey. we are trying to learn if this administration has quietly passed a rule giving unions a very big break on that tax. trace gallagher has the story. >> reporter: the tax is called a reinsurance fee. it's on nearly every health plan for the first three years, meant to raise about $25 billion over the three years to help pay for people with pre-existing conditions. if the change is approved nobody would be exempt next year.
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in 2015 and 2016 groups that act as their own insurance companies and their own claims processors would be exempt to unions that self-insure would greatly benefit. republican senator orin hatch says it certainly looks like the obama administration is looking at a special deal for unions which is deeply concerning given the problems that all americans are facing due to obama care. now the unions argue this is not aimed at them. it's not nearly enough. the laborers union says, again quoting, as the new regulations offer no substantive relief for our health care plan the laborers union will continue to look for opportunities to fix this egregious tax on our members and their families. remember, the unions fought to help the president get elected and fought to pass the affordable care act. when the president extended employers from joining obama care until 2015, the unions felt left at the altar. the unions demanded tax breaks
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and subsidies, arguing that health care would result in union workers losing both hours and jobs. remember this? listen. >> we'll be damned if we are going to lose health insurance because of unintended consequences in the law. it needs to be changed. it needs to be fixed. it needs to be fixed now, brothers and sisters. >> the administration said no to the subsidies and now very quietly, megyn, they are pushing the new fee reducing tax and it could give them a pass and pass the costs on to somebody else. megyn? >> all right, thank you. joining me with more senator rob johnson from wisconsin. he cosponsored the union fairness act which would prevent the administration from doing this. we talked about this before. they might do it. now it appears they are doing it. can it be stopped?
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>> we are hoping so. last time i was here, this is senator thune's bill and i'm a cosponsor. last time they were just hinting about doing this. they have just proposed the rule. 255 pages long. this particular section starts at page 70. this is the time for americans to make a comment to the centers for medicaid and medicare services. hopefully we can make sure the rule doesn't get issued. >> the problem with this is not only does it give the unions a big kiss basically in the form the of dollars. the rest of the people who are supposed to pay the tax is meant to cover the pre-existing condition coverage. the bill will go up and hhs was asked about it. they said it's true the fee will be higher for the other plans that still have to pay the fee. is that fair? can they get away with it?
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the average person isn't going to call and object to the rule. >> it's not fair at all. that's what's going to happen. everyone will be doing more in terms of their reinsurance fee. this is a political payback, trying to rally his base which he's losing. it's simple cronyism. he's rewarding his cronies. i think senator thune had a good title for the bill. union tax fairness act. we need to insist this president treats it is unions fairly. actually treats all americans fairly in comparison to the union. >> is this another example of the law being set up to work one way and then the president under pressure from his base by executive fiat just saying, basically a line item ve the to saying i will change it. >> this is something they had to issue rules on. they will hide behind that
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process. this isn't the first time he's granted special treatment to the unions. they granted 1700 waivers and half the people affected by those were union oh members. oddly enough. this will continue. you have the cadillac fee that will be coming in the future. i'm sure the unions will rail against it and try to get an exemptions from that as well. we have to be very watchful. that's what we are trying to do now is raise the profile. appreciate the fact that you are raising the profile so we can make sure the ruling doesn't become permanent. >> people need to know what's going on. they need to pay attention. senator, good to see you. thank you. >> have a good night. i hope your voice heals. >> thank you very much. getting recommendations from the viewers which i appreciate although i don't think i can take prednisone during the break. does anyone have that? i'll get back to you.
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thanks, john. also tonight what's behind a new push from the democrats to defend the president on his promise about if you like your plan you can keep it. we'll show you how harry reid is now trying to explain this away. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. it's not the "fumbling around with rotating categories" card. it's not the etting blindsided by limits" card. it's the no-game-playing, no-earning-limit-having, deep-bomb-throwing, give-me-the-ball-and-i'll-take- it-to-the-house, cash back card. this is the quicksilver cash card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere, every single day. so let me ask you... at's in your wallet?
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new reaction to senate majority leader harry reid attempting to explain away president obama's broken promise that you can keep your health care plan if you like it. even as almost 6 million americans now have seen their insurance cancelled under obama care. still, senator reid says the president was telling the truth. >> that was so damaging a lot of people said for the president to go out and say you will be able
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to keep your coverage if you like it. thousands of people found out that was not possible. >> but, but i still go back and say what i said earlier. what he said was true. >> okay. >> if you want the to keep the insurance you have, you can keep it. >> former democratic congressman and ceo of the american congress action fund. i know you voted for the law. to a lot of viewers that sounds like crazy talk. >> voting for the law or what senator reid said? >> what senator reid said. >> the statement has been proven not to be true. the president apologized for it. i think what the american people want to know is what are the options going forward? >> let me stop you here. i think we agree. so why is senator reid saying the opposite? why is he saying that? what he said is not true. >> i don't speak for senator reid.
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i don't know the full context of the interview. but we know the vast majority of people who are going to be able to keep their plans, that insurance companies cancel plans every year. in many cases this is because we are preventing insurance companies to stick it to people in unfair ways like kicking them off insurance. >> are you disputing that the reason most of the plans have been cancelled is because of obama care? >> the reason is insurance companies like to play tricks on people over the years. we are limiting the number of tricks they can play. one of the ways they are now dealing with that is to try to move people off the plans. >> no, no. >> we are not going to pay for preventative care. >> here's what karen ignomi -- and i continue to mess up her name -- she's with the insurance group that worked with the white house on obama care. here is what she said about the cancelled plans. >> the only reason plans are
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sending notes to consumers about losing coverage is because of the requirements of the new legislation. >> seems clear. >> the insurance companies are are there to maximize their own profits, not protect consume rs and patients. that's been both part of the system and part of the problem. we continue to say there will be a competition of private insurance companies but we'll set forward certain rule that is people who work hard and pay bills don't get kicked off insurance when they are sick. that's something people agree on. >> you are getting back to the plans were no good, right? >> in some cases they were junk plans, true. and they were plans that were rotating over. >> in a lot of cases they were great plans that people liked, right? >> and in many cases they are offered new plans while the old plans are being cancelled, a breach of the promise that was made. they are getting offered new
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plans and subsidies as well. >> you understand there are millions of americans who didn't understand their insurance policy was at risk who were told it was not at risk who liked their plans, who have seen their plans cancelled who now have to go on health whiches has been a disaster and is only now working well according to the president for the majority of oh people. when they get on there, up to 30% of people who think they have enrolled are about to find out in january that, in fact, the system was messed up and they didn't enroll. can you understand their frustration? especially when harry reid says it was trul tru all along. >> frustrating for those who were supportive of the bill as well. americans never thought they lived without threat of losing health care. part of the problem has been a system where people are one pink slip away from losing health care. people have been insecure about
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that. there is going to be an exchange. there is an exchange where you can buy affordable health care where private sector companies have to compete for your business. that's why you are seeing tens of thousands of people sign up. we had a system that threatened families with tremendous insecurity. you can buy at the same rates as the big guys even if you are a small business, self-employed. that's why you are seeing people go. >> the reason people may have been thinking they cocould have kept the plans may have to do with the repeated assurances from president obama. it may have been connecteded. now harry reid, his newfound assurances may be confusing them further. it's good to see you. thank you for coming on. >> thank you very much. good luck with your health. >> thank you very much. i liked my plan. i didn't get to keep it. i desperately need it. i hope i can keep my doctor. next what the president said about who should be held accountable for the rocky health
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want to check in with what's happening after the death of nelson mandela. this is the scene live from johannesburg. it's early morning there. many folks aren't sleeping. our fox news producer paul tillsley joins us from johannesburg by phone with more. paul? >> reporter: on the streets south africans are pouring out love for nelson mandela in songs
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and dances of the revolution he led. they are pouring out grief despite the late hour. it's nearly dawn here. brandishing the south african flag which was introduced when the democracy he fought for came to this country. some outside nelson mandela's last home in northern johannesburg and his former house in sueto are in pajamas. hundreds of people in all colors and ages. one with a sign saying "it's in our hands now." megyn? >> paul, thank you. more now on the breaking news tonight as president obama attempts to resell his key health care law to a group of young people saying what you need for washington to work is basically one-party rule in washington. listen. >> yes, i've got a strong chief of oh staff. but i'm holding every cabinet member accountable. the challenge we have going forward is not so much my
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personal management style or particular issues around white house organization. it actually has to do with what i referred to earlier which is we have big agencies. some of which are outdated. some of which are not designed properly. in our history, usually when we have made big progress on issues it's been when one party controlled the government for a period of time. the big strides we made in the new deal, the big strides we made with the great society. those were times when you had a big majority. >> joining me with reaction, charles krauthammer, fox news contributor. you heard the president talk about two things. how i am holding every cabinet member accountable, said in spontaneous to a question about obama care and the problems. and comments about when we have made big progress on issues one party had a big majority. >> on the first, the claim is
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farcical. we have benghazi. nobody has been held accountable. surely not the secretary of state. the only person who was demote sd the number two ambassador in tripoli who was sent the to a desk job because he spoke out. as for the botched rollout, nobody has been held accountable in hhs. then you have the attorney general. was he held accountable when he deceived the american people over the eaves dropping on the associated press reporter and on james rosen? no. there was no accountability. but i thought the second claim the president made was interesting. he's right. the big strides were made when you have big majorities. but there is one big difference. in the new dieal and the great society though fdr and lbj had great majorities they always took care to make sure the big socially revolutionary pieces of
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legislation had some support, in fact large support, from the opposition. social security did, medicare did, medicaid did, civil rights did. obama, in an act of what i would call constitutional indecency because it is legal to do it, but it isn't traditional in any way, he passed obama care without a single member supporting him in either house from the other side. against public opinion. after we had an off year election in massachusetts where the candidate for the republicans ran on a platform of opposing obama care. so they shoved it down the throat of the american people, through congress on a lenl sl legislative maneuver called reconciliation. he's standing in the wind as obama care collapses around him. he didn't do what fdr and lbj did. they understood that these majorities are temporary. obama seized on the temporary
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majority in 2009 and 10 and passed something the american people rejected. now he's reaping the whirlwind from it. >> he seems to be confused or indignant. i don't know what the word is. that the republicans aren't rushing in to try to sal vanl the -- salvage the law as opposed to criticizing it. they don't like the law. they have never believed in the law. do they have an obligation to do problem solving here with the reality that we have a democratic president in the white house for at least another couple of years? >> not if you believe as the republicans do and as i do that the the law is in and of itself a disaster. that the architectural law, the intrusiveness of the law, the contradictory nature of the law is such that it cannot work. it's going to hurt overall the american medicine which is the finest in the world and you really have to start over.
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if it was reparable i would say to repair it. it is not. you have to start over, address the uninsured as a discrete problem. you have to address the problem of pre-existing conditions as a discrete problem. you don't call for remaking one-sixth of the economy on the grounds of experts who think in washington that in 20,000 pages of regulation they will remake as complex an eco-system as american medicine. that was the wrong approach from the start. it's a principled position to say it won't work. it cannot work. let's do something else. >> charles krauthammer, great to see you. >> pleasure, thank you. >> up next, the gop campaign lessons on how to talk to women. is that necessary? plus, a bus full of kids so out of control they had to call the cops. wait until you hear who got in trouble.
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he's a college student and i'm sure you all know that college students may engage in sexual activity. unfortunately sometimes one-night stands happen. all i can say is he did nothing that was improper. it's nothing that was unconsensual. >> joining me now, democrat i didn't think strategist julie raginski. and ellison basher. you have defended high profile people including star athletes. >> i think he's flippant. he got away unscathed. it was gated by the police. >> some people say he's a big star, a contender for the heisman trophy. >> in my experience it's just the opposite. they go after the guys harder because they are under more scrutiny. the prosecutor office and law enforcement is under more
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scrutiny to go after the guys in a way they wouldn't -- one of the stars i represented never would have been arrested if he wasn't a star. >> who? >> a star athlete. these guys are under a ton of scrutiny. the dna came back that there were two people involved. it was a year-long investigation. they said we thoroughly investigated it. we cannot prove this. >> she was apparently intoxicated. they found the dna of two men. her memory was fuzzy about the night in question. let me ask you. i don't know whether she's a victim or not of. not to put the blame on her if she is a victim but it's something young women need to be concerned about before they get so sbox intoxication indicated that their memory is fuzzy about what happened. >> for me, i don't know whether this guy is guilty or not. i take a few broad questions i think are worth having a discussion about after moving from the situation. one is the atmosphere on college
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campuses. the hook-up culture or the common excessive drinking. that's a conversation worth having. an issue for me is it was 11 months before anyone said anything. surely the people in charge, his spear kwors or coaches knew about it. there is a broader question that needs to be asked about the culture in football schools if they are giving them special treatment. >> to keep quiet. >> it is a connected social world and gossip gets out quickly. i find it odd. >> they could not make a case if they didn't believe he would be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. they have an obligation not to bring the charges. in georgia, a woman is driving the school bus. kids are so unruly she called the cops. in a strange twist the officers have been suspended. watch. >> [ bleep ] you're doing. what if she flipped the bus over
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or hit somebody. you think it's [ bleep ] funny. look at me blilike a [ bleep ] . i have no tolerance for this. she expects more. you want the to ask like crazy [ bleep ], do it at home. that's the cop yelling at the kids. he niece trouble now. is that the right result? >> he probably shouldn't drop the f-bomb around little kids. that's never advisable. but kids are out of control. if the bus driver has to call the cops the kids deserve a talking to, punished. fine the cops got penalized for cursing, that's right. >> what curse did they say? he said the s-word. you had a guest who said it on your show one time. >> it was you. >> me? i would never use harsh language in front of you. when we were kid it is the cops would grab us, kick you in the butt, curse you and say get out
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of here. you were happy they didn't put you in jail. >> look how well you turned out. >> we didn't worry about cops putting handcuffs on us, but the kids are out of control. if they were so out of control they need to be punished. >> the cop got a two-day suspension. >> there is a way to be stern without stepping over the line. i don't think you talk to children that way. it detracts from the situation at hand. >> even the bad ones? >> you don't think they have heard the words everywhere? >> a police officer. >> suspended? >> a police officer is supposed to be better than that. >> you're right. >> what message does it send to the kids that only the cop got in trouble? not the kid. >> terrible message. if the school won't punish them, the parents should. >> do you know what happened when the cop got off the bus?
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they resumed. did it again. they didn't learn anything. >> the wussification of america. there is no respect. no fear. the kids don't have the fear that either the cop will do something or they will come home and be told the cop went after these kids and dad will give you a whack in the mouth. >> these parents are so coddling their kids. teachers are afraid to discipline. >> they can't. it's not allowed. >> they are afraid to say something to the kids. kids now walk around with impunity because mom and dad are so concerned making sure billy gets into the right college. >> they're cup cakes. >> horrible. >> i used to have a friend and she didn't speak to her mother respectfully. my mother said, you may speak to your mother that way when you are in her house, but you will
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not speak to her that way when you're in mine. she was on the phone. i never spoke with my mom that way. >> do you ever get hit with a wooden spoon? >> no. i got, stop crying or i will give you something to cry about. >> all the time. shut me right up. >> thank you. >> speaking of my mother, this is how she sounds. but it's permanently. it's scary. still ahead, the story of a marine who may have saved half a dozen lives when he fell on a grena grenade. why won't the military give him the medal of honor. plus, "hannity" at the top of the hour. >> the different between this scandal and many others is this is affecting millions of people personally in their bank account now losing their dock the tor the, losing their health care. this is just the beginning. just wait, sean, until employers have the option. >> it's happening. >> of dumpi ining their insuran and throwing people on exchanges. all week for amazing daily
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join the nation. ♪ baby... ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ a new push to give the medal of honor to a marine witnesses say fell on a grenade trying to save lives and lost his own in the process. the pentagon says no. but why? >> he's fighting for the sergeant. good to see you. here's the biggest thing. apparently he said no and it was reviewed. another no came down the pike. we don't know if chuck hagel is reviewing this. the medical examiner reviewed an autopsy that conclude thad the sergeant was probably dead and almost certainly blinded before he jumped on the grenade. they say that's why they are not sure if he should get it.
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they think he may not have knowingly jumped on the grenade. what do you say? >> secretary gates under president obama, not a single living person was given the medal of honor from the start of the iraq war and the afghanistan conflict until the end of president bush's term. there have only been living medal of honor winners from president obama. that's the con text this is in. it took a great guy that works for me, joe casper, to find video that secretary gates didn't look at to give toyota the navy. the navy approved the medal of honor. the marine corps leadership did. but secretary gates for the first time in american history brought together an oud board to cast doubt on the medal of honor process in this case. it had been approved up to him. he convened the board for the first time ever and tried to cast doubt on this. here is the problem with that.
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people do extraordinary things in combat. you can't sit here in the united states safe and sound in the pentagon and say that young marine didn't do what he did. there were seven marines who are arrive now because he did that. >> it's marine eyewitnesses. we are short of time tonight because of nelson mandela. we'll continue to follow this. we'll be right back. as your life and career change, fidelity is there for your personal economy, helping you readjust your retirement plan along the way, rethink how you're invested, and refocus as your career moves forward. wherever you are today, a fidelity i.r.a. has a wide range of investment choices to help you fine-tune your personal economy. call today, and we'll make it easy to move that old 401(k) to a fidelity i.r.a. [ male announc ] your eyes.
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lotses of great suggestion from the viewers on how to cure this voice from saltwater to hot toddy s to, my favorite, just stop talking. see you tomorrow, i hope. [ applause ] a surprisingly large number of young people are signing up. >> the president may want to rethink that comment. new polls show the millennials are turning on their faithful leader. >> will you sign up for obama care? >> i don't know. >> i'm not planning on it. >> not something i'm doing at this time. >> fast food workers protest the federal minimum wage. how much do you want to pay for a cheeseburger? >> i look at obama as a perfect american. i felt this tingle up my leg. >> the president obama lovefest. "hannity" starts here, right now.


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