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visiting today along with our entire fox news team here in d.c., we wish you peace and joy this holiday season. we also want to remember our courageous military men and women serving overseas who can't be home with their loved ones right now. we're keeping you close in our hearts and salute you. merry christmas, everybody. hello, everyone, good day to you. i'm kelly wright. welcome to a brand-new hour of america's news headquarters. >> i'm patti-ann browne, in for colby. millions are facing severe winter weather. we'll get the very latest from the fox extreme weather center. >> plus, three u.s. osprey struck by gunfire in south sudan. we've got the very latest on their conditions and why they were there in the first place in a remote region plagued by unrest. >> and major holiday headaches for millions of target shoppers.
the latest on the credit card security breach that puts so many people at risk. we've got some simple steps for you to protect your card. we've got so breaking news about what's happening up in space. two straurts conducting an urgent repair job, two american astronauts. hundreds of miles above the earth, they have removed a damaged pump on the international space station. you're looking at video of them operating there. and could finish fixing the crippled cooling unit next week. live in los angeles with more details on this critical and important spacewalk. dominic. >> yes, most certainly is, kelly. 260 miles above the earth's surface, u.s. astronauts are back safely inside the iss. this was at 12:29, just over half an hour ago. five hours and 28 minutes, 11 seconds exactly was their
spacewalk. seemed to go well. here's a look at them perform the repairs there. brief moment there when he struck some ammonia lines. some ammonia brushed his suit. ammonia is very toxic. he reported a steady stream of ammonia coming out. mission control was okay with it. it's a 780-pound pump about the size of a double door refrigerator. extremely cumbersome to handle. and full of that dangerous ammonia. both astronauts wore extra safety gear for this one as they floated outside in space. here's how the astronaut, who has made seven spacewalks now, really summed up the challenge. >> it's good news/bad news. the bad news is the station's having problems and we have to do a repair. the good news is, you know, as
we have the spare parts, we have the training, we have the skills. of course going out and doing a spacewalk is always very exciting, yet very challenging. >> certainly very challenging. now, that pump was disconnected today. it's going to be pulled out on monday. a fresh spare is going to be put back in. all of it has to be hooked back up to a new pump. that could be completed on wednesday unless they manage to do it on monday. now, after work is finished in those two spacewalks, a third won't be needed, but the russians are scheduled to go out on friday just to make sure everything is wrapped up. quite an undertaking. >> we should mention that stracchio holds the records for spacewalks so it's a sight to see. we'll continue to keep updated on that. thank you very much. meantime, so what goes into carrying out one of these spacewalks? former nasa shuttle astronaut tom jones will join us in a few moments.
we are tracking a winter storm that is affecting much of the country during this busy travel weekend. that storm bringing freezing rain and more snow from oklahoma and further on into the midwest, and they are preparing for it over at green bay's lambeau field, of course, the home of the green bay packers. you can see hundreds of people shoveling there, trying to get that stadium ready for tomorrow's big game. and we are meteorologist janice dean right now live in the weather center with more for us on the weather. hi, janice. >> hi, inches of snow, we could see inches of ice, and large destructive tornadoes. look at the temperature difference here. 72 in memphis. 27 in kansas city. 45 in dallas. 77 in new orleans. look at that powerful cold front as it slams into moist unstable air. very reminiscent of a string time storm. let alone an official first day of winter storm. so we have tornado watches.
this one until 6:00 p.m. local time. and this one has just been issued within the last several minutes. good until 8:00 p.m. local time, including the city of memphis. we could see large destructive tornadoes with this. no tornado warnings. but we do have severe thunderstorm warnings. so things are starting to fire. north of that, that's where we've got that icy mix. travel is dangerous, if not impossibl impossible, on these roadways that stretch from oklahoma all the way up to the great lakes and then into the northeast. the severe threat is going to be ongoing this afternoon into this eveni evening. the storm prediction center has issued a moderate risk in towards tennessee and kentucky. we are going to see tornadoes on this 21st day of december. tracking it for you, louisville, 64. north of that, heavy snow, 6 to 8 inches possible. d.c., 71 degrees, 65 in new york. we will set a record all up and down the east coast for very, very warm temperatures. 30 degrees above average in some
cases. winter weather advisories. we've got a loaf of them. winter storm warnings, as well as ice storm warnings for much of the state of oklahoma. stretching into illinois, where we have freezing rain advisories, up towards upstate new york and new england, where we have the potential for a very devastating ice storm, unfortunately. this is the ice accumulation. oklahoma, in towards arkansas and the midwest. we could see over an inch, over an inch of ice on the roads and the power lines and the trees. this could be devastating, crippling for this area. so obviously, a lot to cover in the fox extreme weather center. we are talking about holiday travelering, travelers. people need to stay inside if they can. you really shouldn't be on the roads. >> a lot of people have to be on the roads. very bad timing. janice dean, thank you. the pentagon confirming that four u.s. service members on a rescue mission in south sudan
have been injured by gunfire. military officials say three ospreys like the ones you see here were hit by small arms fire by unknown forces while trying to evacuate american citizens from an area that has seen some of the worst violence in that country. all four service members were taken to kenya for treatment, and they are now in stable condition. a key deadline for the health care law comes monday, but there is still confusion over eligibility and the obama administration continues to tweak the policy. doug mckelway is live in honolulu where the president is on vacation. >> reporter: we're quite sure the president is thrilled to be getting away from the political battles he's been fighting in washington to this island paradise. one of the big stories here in oahu is not obama care but the huge surf on the north shore. that's where the president has been vacationing. this is lending itself to a lot of excitement for the bravest of
surfers but also a lot of water rescues by lifeguards. still, there is no respite from the woes of obama care. the president arrived here last night to a delegation of hawaiian dignitaries including the governor. he'll be vacationing in a private rental home on the northeast coast about 45 minutes away from the press center here in waikiki. president obama, in his press conference yesterday, struck an optimistic tone, saying how 2014 is going to be a year of action and he defended the progress made with health care.gov. >> more than half a million americans have enrolled through health k healthcare.gov. in california, a state operating its own marketplace, more than 15,000 americans are enrolling every single day. >> reporter: but the website continues to come under unrelenting criticism. it crashed again just before the president's press conference
yesterday. and thursday's adjustment has given opponents more fuel for the fodder. this adjustment on thursday, which grants people who lost their health insurance, a waiver from the individual mandate. insurance company say it throws their lives into further chaos and also political opponents, you can guess, are lambasting it. >> young people helped put the president in office. with this health care law, he's pushing them into years of less choice, fewer opportunities and larger bills. this isn't how it was supposed to be. and everywhere i go, people come up and say we should do something to stop this law. and they're right. >> reporter: obama care faces another deadline on december 23rd, just two days away. now for people to find a health care plan, to enroll in a health care plan. insurers again say this throws their lives into further chaos. in addition to that, it will likely create another surge of users which we know in the past has taxed the website.
so we shall see, december 23rd. patty-ann, back to doug mckelwa. thank you. new developments in a horrific car jacking in new jersey. four men charged with murder, conspiracy and other counts in the death of a 30-year-old man outside an upscale mall. we are live in new york city with the latest details of this sad and tragic story. >> reporter: the four men were arrested last night and early this morning. they are charged with the murder of 30-year-old dustin freeland. freeland was shot in the head in the parking garage of the shorthills mall in new jersey in front of his wife last sunday night. while they were just finishing up their christmas shopping. now, the four suspects have been identified as 29-year-old hanit thompson, 31-year-old karif ford, 32-year-old basin henry. in addition to murder, they face
several charges, including car jacking, possession of a weapon. if convicted, they face up to life behind bars. police say the four men targeted the 2012 silver range rover in the mall parking garage on sunday night. freeland was about to get in the driver's side of his suv when he was approached by two of the men and shot. they fled the scene in the range rover which was later found about ten miles away in newark, new jersey. now, the attack is just latest in a string of car jackings in essex county, new jersey. it's actually an epidemic. 450 this year, an all-time high. according to the crime bureau, car thefts around the nation in 2012 increased for the first time in eight years. and that number's also supposed to increase in 2013, which could lead to more violent car jackings. >> the old days of hot wiring a car are pretty much just that, the old days. you can't do that in a lot of new cars today. your only option is to get the
key or the device that starts the car from the owner. and then you've got the car. and if you can only do that when the owner is present at the vehicle, you've got a setup for a car jacking. >> reporter: now, there are some steps to take while shopping. be aware of your overall surroundings. when you're parking at a mall, make sure you park near the entrance or where there's light. if you feel like you're being watched, don't walk directly to your vehicle. if you are being confronted do not struggle, give up your keys. at the end of the day, your life is more valuable. kelly. >> that's so true. there's no reason to even shoot this guy in the first place. they had the upper hand, they should have just taken the car and left the family alone. thank you. well, coming up, an amazing survival story. how two men were rescued after their boat sank in the ocean. >> plus, nasa astronauts competing a marathon emergency spacewalk. they did that at the international space station.
but the difficult work to fix broken cooling pumps is far from over. nasa shuttle astronaut tom jones is going to join us just ahead. >> also, one photo journalist uses his success as a platform to help many children. we'll have that story coming up. [ coughs, sneezes ] i have a big meeting when we land, but i am so stuffed up, i can't rest. [ male announcer ] nyquil cold and flu liquid gels don't unstuff your nose. they don't? alka seltzer plus night fights your worst cold symptoms, plus has a decongestant. [ inhales deeply ] oh. what a relief it is. ic with sleigh bells♪] no mom in the history of moms has ever turned down a handmade ornament. that's why we've set up santa's wonderland at bass pro shops. where kids can get their picture with santa and this week make a reindeer gift bag, all for free.
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time now for a quick check of the headlines. harry reid was released from the hospital last night. reid's office said he was not feeling well. doctors diagnosed him with exhaustion. a federal judge has overturned utah's ban on same-sex marriage. the judge calling the ban unconstitutional. now gay couples are rushing to get marriage licenses. utah's attorney general has already filed a notice of appeal. two fishermen rescued in australia after their boat sank. they spent 15 hours clinging to a cooler in the ocean near new south wales. the men were later taken to a hospital. they say they're happy to be back on land.
two astronauts completing a spacewalk high above the earth during which they removed a broken cooling pump on the international space station. the damaged system has hampered operations aboard the orbitalant could be finished next week. here is tom jones, author of "sky walking, an astronaut's memoir." tom, it's good to see you. >> thanks, merry christmas to you. >> let's talk about this. this is a very critical mission for the astronauts on board of international space station. today's walk, spacewalk, took five hours and 28 minutes, so they completed it a little bit ahead of time for what they were originally scheduled to do. what did they specifically do that will help them on monday when they have to go back out? >> kelly, they've broken the tasks down into two or three separate parts. today was chapter one where they removed the bad pump module from
the pump station's structural truss. they had to disconnect all the fluid lines. they got that pump out of its receptacle and out of the cooling system and parked it in a temporary parking spot. they'll go back monday and retrieve the spare cooling pump that will be removed, put on the robot arm and put into place and reconnected. if they get through all of that on monday, they won't have to go outside on christmas day. that's sort of a christmas gift if they have to do a third one. >> let's talk about the critical nature of this. if they do not repair this, what kind of hazards will this cause for the international space station? with regards to its cooling system? >> yeah, there are two cooling systems. when they're both running, you can power up all three laboratories, the u.s., the japanese, the european research labs, and run all their experiments. when you lose a pump module like this, it was chilling the
ammonia too much which reyacrea the danger of freezing the cooling systems inside the lab. that means you cut off half the science at the space station. over the long run, that can have a significant impact on its research output. the other vulnerability is while you've got one loop down, one cooling system down, if something happens to the other one, then you get into a really critical situation where you have to really shut down most of the space station. >> which is not good at all. if you can see the monitor, we're actually looking at the actual removal of that one pump that they had to remove today. tell me what goes on inside an astronaut's mind when they're out on a mission like this conducting a spacewalk. because they've got to think about safety. so they have to keep a cool head and yet stay cool within that suit. as you know, there is a problem several months ago with someone going out in a space suit and actually nearly drowning in the
fluids from that space suit. >> right, last summer, an astronaut almost choked on water that had made its way into his helmet, obscured his vision. it was a very dicey situation last summer. the astronauts have that failure on their minds it their suits have been modified so they can absorb any water that gets into their helmets with absorbent pads and they can feel that happen so they can abort the spacewalk early. they've even put a snorkel in place where an astronaut can breathe through a tube down to his waste area where the water would not reach and he would have a clear air pathway if you ever had this flooding problem again. what you're focusing on outside is probably the most intense concentration of your professional work life. you don't want to make a mistake. you want to stay ahead of schedule. you know that you're doing work on which the entire space station's future depends. you don't want to be the guy that makes a mistake and causes more damage. it's always possible to make a
situation worse. that was the astronaut's motto. they want to be very careful. hurrying actually puts you further behind schedule. you'll miss a step or make a mistake. you'll want to be very slow, methodical. >> the bottom line is being calm, cool, collected and critically thinking, which is always a good way to go. tom jones, thank you for joining us. >> if you're lucky, you'll be able to look out and see the earth as well. >> i'm sure they did. tom jones, good to see you. again, have a good christmas, it's always good to talk to you. >> thank you. the salvation army is now struggling to overcome a double blow to its holiday fund-raising efforts. recent icy weather conditions have cut into the amount collected by the organization's red kettle campaign. and the later than usual thanksgiving reduced the number of days the campaign can receive donations as well. >> we knew we would have a problem because of the five fewer days.
we knew exactly how much money that was going to be represented. $22.7 million. from the very beginning, we've said to people, you know, it's important that we get the kettles out there and that everybody be told it's important to go and give. >> folks interested in helping out can host their own online red kettle at online red kettle.org. you can also text the word kettle to 80888 to donate $10. time to tell you about a great story. linda is an international acclaimed photo journalist. her career has enabled her to enjoy living her life and the american dream. but linda believes in using her success as a platform to help people, particularly children. so, for this christmas season, here's a look at how linda is helping kids see their sights -- or set their sights, i should say, on some day living beyond
the dream. >> my hope is to take care of my mom. my dream is to have a big house. my dream is to love people. my dream is for love and help. my dream is to get knowledge. my dream is for god. my dream is to keep people safe. my dream, my hope is to save people. >> my dream is to help orphans. my dream is to help other homeless people. my hope is for abuse to stop. my hope is for me to stay close to my family. my hope is for child abuse to stop. >> these are kids who represent the growing number of children who are homeless. throughout america, so many of them are living in poverty. it's heartbreaking to know that many of these children will spend their christmas living in a shelter without ever receiving a gift. ♪ rudolph the red nosed
reindeer ♪ ♪ had a very shiny nose homelessness is a nagging problem that plagues life in america. there is no single reason for its rise. and there is no silver bullet for curing it. >> i just know that so many children are homeless due to economic hardship. and that is the reason. and so often people see someone homeless on the streets an adult, and they think, well, this is the picture of homelessness. well, it isn't. it's a photograph of a child who's right here today, who's living in the salvation army, who only dreams to one day have a home. and so many of the children have captured that dream. >> linda solomon is an award-winning photo journalist. through the lens her camera, she has captured golden moments in the lives of numerous celebrities and events. solomon's eye for taking great pictures opened the window of her heart to the plight
america's forgotten, homeless children. she launched pictures of hope. app aa sponsors the program in 12 cities to provide a unique way of making people aware of children in need. linda teaches them how to use a professional camera and how to take pictures as a photo journalist. >> all of their dreams are for others. so many of the children are dreaming for homes for other people who are homeless. they're dreaming for their mother, s to be happy. they're dreaming for their dad to be happy. they're dreaming for god to love them. >> the hopes and dreams expressed by these children are then developed into holiday greeting cards which are revealed during an unveiling at participating chevrolet car dealerships. and out of the mouths of babes comes pearls of wisdom. angelina writes, my hope is for people to know that even though you're in a dark situation, there is always light to guide you. and damion writes, my hope is to have a house.
xavier writes, i hope is to have an opportunity. and this card states, my hope is for love. >> i hope for my family and i wrote my dream because i want to get knowledge. >> wow. and we'll end this story on a positive note. the child you just saw there is seeing one of his dreams come true this christmas. he always wanted to have a house for his family and i'm happy to report that linda has just informed me that a generous benefactor is making that happen. giving shaheed's family a home. which means shaheed can actually sing "i'll be home for christmas." >> that is awesome, wow. thanks for those great stories. we're just a few minutes away from a special memorial for the victims of pan am flight 103, the bombing at arlington national cemetery, the ceremony will be there, marking 25 years
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it is the bottom of the hour. time for the top of the news. four u.s. service members on a rescue mission in south sudan have been injured by gunfire after three ospreys were hit by small arms fire from unknown forces. they were trying to evacuate american citizens from an area that has seen some of the worst violence in that country. all four u.s. service members are reportedly in stable condition. holiday travelers are
bracing for bad weather across much of the nation. as winter storms bring rain, ice and snow. about 95 million americans are expected to travel by road or air during this holiday season. and four men are charged with murder and other counts in that deadly car jacking in new jersey. they're accused of killing a 30-year-old man outside an upscale mall on sunday. today marks 25 years since the bombing of pan am flight 103. memorial events taking place here in the u.s. at arlington national cemetery and across the uk. the bombing over lockerbie scotland remains the deadliest terror attack on british soil that killed all 259 people on board, along with 11 others on the ground. molly hennenburg is live in washington. >> reporter: attorney general holder will lead the memorial service today at arlington national cemetery. he's expected to be joined there by fbi director james coupme an
some victim family members and friends. the flight left on the evening of december 21st, 1988, headed to new york, but it exploded over the scottish town of lockerbie less than an hour after takeoff. all 259 people on board as you were saying kelly were killed. many of them were american college students heading home for christmas. today in lockerbie, there was a ceremony marking the 25th anniversary of the bombing. 11 people were killed there on the ground in lockerbie, scotland. one mother of an american college student spoke about why she attended the event in scotland. >> i wanted to come here not only to honor thomas but the other 269 victims, and i wanted to stand in the place where my son took his last breath. and say a small prayer. >> reporter: one libyan intelligence officer, abdel baset al magrhabi was convicted
of 270 counts of murder. he planted a suitcase bomb on the plane, prosecutors said, and was sentenced to life in prison in scotland in 2001. scottish authorities decided to release him in 2009 on humanitarian grounds when he was diagnosed with terminal prostate cancer. then expected he would not survive long after he was release and returned to libya to a hero's welcome, but the man lived another three years. help d he died in may 2012. >> no one can forget, whoever witnessed that, no one can ever forget what happened 25 years ago. a key deadline for the nation's new health care law hits next week. but there's still a lot of confusion over who is eligible. before going on vacation in hawaii, president obama talked about the troubled rollout of his signature law. >> the fact is, it didn't happen in the first month, the first six weeks, in a way that was at
all acceptable. and since i'm in charge, obviously, we've -- screwed it up. >> where are we heading with obama care as the deadline nears? thank you both for joining us. >> thank you for having us. >> we want to show the latest fox news poll. we asked, what should happen to the health care law and 53% said it should be repealed. just 41% said keep it in place. doug, the majority of americans don't want this. why not just scrap it and move on? >> well, actually, that's not entirely accurate. most polls, if you actually ask americans if they want to epcoup t make fixes when necessary, that's what the president's trying to do with some of these extensions. i have no problem with that because he's working -- he's trying to make the law work and
that's what american people want out of their politicians in washington, make government work, find solutions, work together. i think that's what the president's trying to do with some of these extensions. >> the day after tomorrow is the deadline to sign up for coverage. federal health officials are actually asking insurance providers to honor policies starting january 1st, even if the customers sign up after monday's deadline. is this thing anywhere near ready? >> no, it's not ready for prime time. i'm glad to hear the president being humble saying he screwed up. doug, you saying that the people on the left want to find solutions because that's what the american people want. that's what the american people want. they want solutions. but this is a problem. this law has had chaos and confusion since the vote on the law, since the creation of the website, since the implementation of the law. you and i both know, any time the executive body, the president, or the regulatory body has to tweak it, fix it,
delay it, there's a red flag on the play. so should we repeal it, no. but congress and the white house should work together to fix it. >> what about what angela's saying? lots of changes. millions of consumers whose individual policies have been canceled will be allowed to buy bare bones or catastrophic plans but in many cases those plans are going to cost more and offer less. so it's a rotten deal for people who can't go back to their better deal. what recourse do these folks have? >> let me clarify one thing. the 23rd deadline is actually for health insurance to cover -- to start on january 1st. the open enrollment period for health care coverage ends march 31st. so many people -- people still have very long time to get insurance. it may not start on january 1st but it will start next year. as far as the hardship exemption announcement that the administration made, that is for a very small amount of the population, estimates up to
about 500,000 people who saw consolations from -- who got cancellations from their insurance providers, and are looking for an alternative to the exchange plans, and this catastrophic plan -- let me finish -- >> go ahead -- >> -- is intended to give consum consumers, a small number of consumers additional choices as they make their way through the health -- >> you know what's so sad about this, this is becoming so convoluted like the irs and our tax system. so now people are going to have to hire people to help explain how they can get affordable care. how they can get -- >> i actually think you're -- >> -- to actually explain it, for the website to be -- supposed to be simple but it's not. and any law that would depend on younger healthier people to pay for older people or people who are unhealthy, it is flawed. >> we have to leave it there. >> back to the drawing board and fix it. >> i think i took 45 seconds to explain it, that's not long at
all. >> -- convoluted -- >> i think americans are smarter than folks are giving them credit. they'll be able to figure out these changes -- >> very small -- >> thank you. >> merry christmas. a massive security breach involving some 14 million credit and debit cards striking fear into customers of the retail giant target. what target and other u.s. companies can do to better defend against this type of attack in the future. >> i refuse, i will never swipe my card in target ever again. [ male announcer ] this is george. the day building a play set begins with a surprisewinge of back pain... and a choice. take up to 4 advil in a day or 2 aleve for all day relief. [ male announcer ] that's handy. ♪ ♪
you've heard about this story, the retail giant target now facing a class action lawsuit after a data -- after data from some 40 million credit and debit cards may have been stolen from black friday through december 15th at the height of the holiday shopping season. could target have done more to protect its customers' information? and tech specialists say yes. that goes for most other american financial and retail institutions as well. joining us now to talk about this is a financial adviser and president of diversified financial consultants. the real story here, dominic, is really why this even happened in
the first place. and should people be using their debit cards and credit cards in that swipe at these stores? >> look, the truth here is that the focus has been on target. 40 -- potentially 40 million credit card and debit card information was stolen out of their computer system. but the real story is it's a much larger problem in this country. it's a much larger problem. the irony is we consider ourselves so technologically advanced and hip. the rest of the world is way ahead of us in this type of technology. >> i'm glad you brought that up because the rest of the world, our european allies, africa, other countries, they're using those cards that -- >> emv technology. >> explain what that is because we don't use it here. >> we're talking about literally the rest of the world uses this technology. they embed a chip right in your computer. that chip is encrypted. it has security features on it when they scan it, that single
transaction goes through that chip and protects your card. it's much more difficult to get that information off one of these chips. so what happens is we don't use that technology in this country. >> why don't we use that? >> we're going to come to that. primarily cost. less than 1% of the 1 billion cards in this country have this technology. so we are the target. the united states for hackers. we have a bull's-eye on our back because it's so easy to take this magnetic strip technology, read the information off of it, and copy cards and make new ones out of it. >> here's a question o one then. should we be using these cards or is it better to shop online? >> well, the truth of the matter is, we don't have much of a choice, right? if you go and gas up your car, you put -- you put the little card in the machine, you go to a target or you go to a store, you know, most americans, there's a lot of online shopping but most americans still go to a store and they look at the sweater and this is what they want to buy.
the technology at the store, the reader, the technology at the gas station, cannot, for the most part, cannot read this new technology. the united states literally is ten years -- this is not new technology. we're ten years behind the loop of the rest the world. >> so when is the united states get a clue and start doing the right thing among these retail giants? >> i'm getting different numbers. somewhere between 2015 at the earliest and 2020 is the estimate of -- >> that's a long time. in the interrip, what's your advice to people, to consumers, who actually go out and shop? >> unfortunately, we're really at risk. there is no viable solution. you can call your credit card company. if you shop at target and say listen, i use my credit card there, please put a watch or security link on my card. you can subscribe to one of these services that activates your credit report and pay money. but make sure that's protected. and be a little bit careful how and when you use your card. >> let's show the hot line real quick people can call.
the hot line's showing up. it's actually for target. but as you've mentioned, other stores can be guilty of this as well. >> it's easy to pick on target. they're going to pay dearly for this. think about lost sales alone. it is going to be huge. count the lawsuits. they're going to pay dearly for this. the truth of the matter is, this could have happened just about any giant retailer. because these hackers are brilliant at getting -- if they're doing it to the nsa and defense department, what hope do these department stores have? >> it's true. nsa is there for our protection. >> one last -- you have to call your credit card and ask for this kind of technology. demand it. and you know what, they'll be faster at sending -- >> all right, have a great christmas too. >> great christmas, happy holidays. kelly, you'll want to hear this health story coming up next. what some doctors are now saying about high blood pressure. their recommends are causing some people to scratch their heads. we'll have a doctor joining us
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blood pressure. they're causing confusion. recommends raising the blood flashy target for when folks over 60 should start receiving medication. that's just for starters. joining us now to explain is dr. nina radcliffe. thank you for joining us. we'll put it up right now for you. currently, medication is prescribed for a blood pressure of 130 over 90 if the patient has diabetes or kidney disease, 140 over 90 for all other adults. this panel is recommending raising the target for those with diabetes or kidney disease to 140 over 90 and raising the threshold for adults over 60 to 150 over 90. we should stress, they're not saying that high blood pressure is now okay for these groups. what they're saying is the side effects of the drugs have to be watered against possible benefits and lowering blood pressure. >> correct, and change is hard for everybody. this number has been etched in our heads forever years and years. when we have change, we're going to ask questions.
>> this panel, it's called the eighth joint national committee. their quote is there's a lack of evidence that using drug, to get pressures lower than that will reduce a person's risk heart attack or stroke or increase life expectancy. medication really isn't having an impact below those targetings. >> that's what the argument is, they feel the group of people they looked at, there's something missing in that. we always say when it comes to these statistics there's lives and statistics. is this the right way of doing it? that's what people are doing, they're going to ask questionings. we don't want to make a change and not give somebody a medication that could save their life. >> on the other hand, the argument they're making is the blood pressure medication does have side effects. it can make you tired all the time. it can make you light aheaded every time you stand up. it can cause fainting spells. they're saying they would prefer patients in that range they're changing it to focus on lifestyle changes, exercise more, eat better. and isn't that a better way to
go anyway? >> it's not even just in that range, it's for everybody. everybody should have lifestyle changes. if you can do it without medication, that's the key. exercise is important. take in less salt, always an important thing to do. try not to stress. let it go. live life, be happy, don't stress about things. >> we want to move on to the stress point and others for the holidays. there's short-term stress and there's bad eating habits, drinking, et cetera. what are some strategies for epcoe keeping your blood pressure low during the holidays? >> should we wait until the new years or start now? my suggestion is why put off till tomorrow what you could do today. so i say go for it, reduce your salt intake, start cutting back on the cigarettes. they increase your blood pressure as well. exercise. at least get 15 minutes in, get 30 minutes in, get something in during this period of time. again, try not to stress. it is the holidays. keep your stress levels low.
enjoy it. >> don't wait until you neither ye new years resolution, right, kelly. >> i'm going to make sure i practice all those too because it's important. that will do it for us. i'm kelly wright. >> i'm patti ann brown. the journal editorial report is next. on the u.s.s. saratoga in 1982. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve current and former military members and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve.
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