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today we heard from the victim of that elevator attack, by baltimore raven's running back ray rice. in an instagram post, rice's wife defended her husband saying i woke up this morning feeling like i had a horrible nightmare. no one knows the pain that the media and one wanted options from the public has caused my family, to take something away from the man i love, that he has worked his blank off for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific, we also heard from
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rice himself in a statement to espn. questio quote, i have a lot of people praying for us. john harball briefly addressed the press last night. >> it changed things, of course, it made things a little bit different. >> the nfl has suspended rice in definitely, the league claims it never saw the tape and didn't even know about it. but tmz says that's not true. we are assured that someone from roger goodell, but there were people from the nfl who came and saw the video. >> i believe they actually turned a blind eye to it. and it's a shameful story that the nfl knew that the surveillance video existed.
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>> eric, there's no way that the nfl has not seen that video. >> can i just do this? look, believe me, i'm not defending anybody, roger goodell is a great man, i think he needs to get in front of the camera and explain this to everybody's that watching. he admitted he made a mistake, gave rice a two-game suspension. surveillance types. >> harvey levin, there's no one who came out and said, we showed this to a representative of the nfl. by the way, not only representatives. >> right, right. so my point is. >> would you lie with tmz sniffing around? >> in the absense of the video, i think there's they made a
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mistake, to the mistake and they're doing the right thing, they cut right. they said rice can't come back to the nfl, i don't know, who knows? maybe a year, maybe two. they need somewhere around 45% of all of their new viewers, 45% of the new viewers to the nvm, they need to protect women. it's not the old boy networks. we're going to take care of what happens in the locker room stays in the locker room. not anymore, this is a big, big business. >> i think it was a circle the wagons kimberly's good old boys club. until tmz came along. if tmz wouldn't have put out that video, apparently the first video wasn't enough. really? you needed to see the second video? are people that deposition out there?
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hello, she didn't knock herself out unconscious, obviously something happened and transpired in that elevator. >> if you development see the piece where he hits her, if you don't see that piece, you're an attorney. >> but there -- come on, i wasn't born yesterday, figure it out. they already admitted that something happened, that there was a physical altercation and in fact charges were brought against them. the reason why that had no legs was she wouldn't go forward and testify gagainst her husband or at the time her boyfriend about what happened. they didn't want to see any part of that tape, because it would have pushed them to the fire. >> i just want to ask kimberly very quickly. doesn't the prosecutor have -- wouldn't there be a detailed criminal report that the atlantic city police department has on this alter days? so he knows if he hit her
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already, we wouldn't need -- >> in all the domestic violence cases i have prosecuted, i never had one with a video where the perpetrator knocking the investigation out, it was all he said she said. so what jury couldn't find that persuasi persuasive. that's like the golden ticket in a dv case, that right there. what could she have possibly saidor done to offa beating like that. the da knows that, the coop cow that, ray rice knows it, the nfl nye it and now what? >> it's known as domestic violence cases going back four years. there were four last year and there were six the year before that, where these reports were brought before the nfl, and think didn't do anything. they're protecting their brand, protecting their players which is just ridiculous. the idea that this guy is going to get a two-game suspension, it
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should be a year or maybe more than that. >> i don't know why we insist these organizations be good at discipline? it's a crime. he punched a woman in the face, go to court, and if he's convicted, he should do time. >> he got the diversion program. the pti, pretrial intervention. so the judge decided that he was going to get a pretrial intervention, now he's married. i agree with this woman. we go to the nfl like they're a judge and jury? they're a private organization, of course they're going to circle the wagons. >> bryant gumbel says that maybe ray rice gave the nfl a different version of events. here's bryant gumbel. >> it hard to believe they didn't see it you. have to wonder, what did roger goodell think that she feinted. i think at best, the only thing you can say is that they were
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wi willfully ignorant. >> tom's right, yes, the police have -- the da and the da have to decide if they're going to prosecute, and if you don't have the victim who's willing to testify, it becomes a much more difficult, much more complicated case as you well know. by, with the informal. >> nfl is a brand, it is a company, what they are concerned with is making sure that the nfl, that logo. every time you watch an nfl game, no matter what, in the ads, at halftime, they have an nfl stamp in there. >> it should be those monkeys, see no evil, hear no evil. >> whatever. but if the place, if law enforcement is going to do their thing, the nfl is going to do theirs as well. roger goodell admitted he made a mistake. he said it shouldn't have been a
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two game, achkd a six-game second offense and then complete dismissal from the informal. >> when you have a private organization, first of all they are using the public air waives to send this stuff out and make al of money. whoem when there's been a history of this kind of abuse among your players, it steams to me that you have an -- >> i agree, bob. >> this action is bad for the brand because it shows they don't do anything until they're caught. but i think we the american people shouldn't be complaining about the nfl. if a crime is committed, you should be arrested. you should be suspended for as many games as you're in jail. that should be the policy. he canibility play, he's in jail. >> he should still go to jail and he should be suspended because he did something that was detrimental to the brand. >> what about michael vick who was convicted of fighting dogs.
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he later on got -- shouldn't the culture in nfl where crimes are submitted, it should go unacceptable. they should have a standard of conduct, you do not commit crimes against women, against children, there should be a higher standard of play for these guys. >> atlantic city, it's not the most above board town. why didn't the prosecutor throw the book at him? do you think maybe somebody intervened in this? because really ray rice should be in jail. i understand the nfl, they're quaking in their boots because ray rice isn't the first player to be accused of come messic dialed. i'm sure goodell is thinking what about all the other prairs? why didn't this brute prosecutor throw the book at him when all the facts are there? >> i would love to know, was the prosecutor hiding under their desk? because this is ineck cruisable. i'm telling you what you have a victim that's cooperative or not. you can bring in other witnesses, there's ways to do this and you can play the tape.
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maybe they shied away from it. they didn't want to do it because they didn't have the explaining victim to come forward and take the stand. or per them on the stand, you put them on the stand, they won't talk, you put them on the stand, they recan't. she can't take that when you have a video. >> that's why i think you let this go in a courtroom and if you don't get the conviction you want, then you have to move on. i don't like people being convicted on social media and we have been running this tape and everyone's going crazy and then the nfl has to take action. >> nfl has dabbled in other issues like breast cancer, where all the players are wearing pink. it doesn't have to be solely focused on business issues. are they really going to give the most powerful sports organization a pass on this? >> no, they'll see what other causes they want to embrace. >> clearly they realize they're cleaning, i don't want to have a sign hung always defending the nfl on this. they screwed up, they admitted
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they crew screwed up and they're fixing it. they also need to fix their drug policy. if a player tests positive for marijuana, thc, he's either out for a half year or a full year. so you're actually punished more for hitting a joint than beat yourg wife. >> really? >> i agree with you. >> the prosecutor screwed up by not going after ray rice, but certainly let's not say that the nfl isn't going to do anything, they made a misfake, they admit it. >> are they like the king of cannabis? >> they don't dory drug testing, there's no set number of drug tests in the course of a year and there's been some indication they don't give it at all to certain players. >> i do think that's right, i rick, if they're going to punish six months for marijuana and two games for hitting a woman, they clearly have their priorities messed up. >> we shouldn't have considerations to it.
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i think go to the courtroom. >> can he come back, ray rice? steven a. smith was on with hannity last night and he was asked that question, will he have the redemption, allah vick? >> nobody will touch him right now. but you have to consider that michael vick with the whole dog fighting scandal, serving 18 months in the federal penitentiary, is back in the nfl. they ended up back in the league. >> is this different, eric? >> yeah, i think this is different. i think this case, especially with the video, kind of woke everyone up to what's going on, what the nfl has or hasn't been, whatever, the point is, going forward, this is a brand that's an extremely profitable brand and they need women going forward to continue the brand and my guess is that there will be a team that wants them. there's going to be some dumb team that says you know what?
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i need a running back. and the team will step up and say i don't care if you -- >> they need to police and baby sit their brand a little bit better. you know what? this is america, everybody loves a fallen guy to come back up, say i'm sorry, make amends, he it's going to have do works with 2k34ersic violence organizations. >> they're going to go out, she's going to support tichl, it's going to take some time but she will support him and he will come back. >> it still amazes me, when he gets battered, and battered. they go back, you almost have the sense, this is not the first time and she seems to -- i don't know i'm not suggesting that she like this is, but i have seen enough battered women who think they can go home and fix this. >> she basically said we're
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whipping this catastropontroverr ratings and trivializing what she went through. >> it's like blaming president obama for being on the golf course when. >> blame the five. it's all our fault. it's my fault that i have to cut bob off. ahead on the 5, president obama is going to deliver an address on isis in prime time tomorrow night. will he finally have the strategy to present to the american people? stay tuned. what if a photo were more than a memory? what if it were more than something to share? what if a photo could build that shelf you've always wanted? or fix a leaky faucet? or even give you your saturday back? the new snapfix app revolutionizes local service. just snap a photo and angie's list coordinates a top-rated provider to do the work on your schedule. the app makes it easy. the power of angie's list makes it work. download snapfix for free.
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pressure is mounting on president obama as he is set to address the nation tomorrow night about continued action to combat isis. his speech comes as the american public is losing confidence in the american president. a new "washington post" abc news pool show just 40% to be a strong leader, the lowest of the his presidency. the president must articulate his plan. >> what i'm hoping to hear from the president today is a strategy that goes after isis and destroys it. we have a very serious problem, what we need is a strategy, until there's a strategy, there's no reason to talk about
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any of the specifics. >> the same "washington post"/abc poll shows 65% of americansbombing into syria, so what is the president waiting for? >> me says he will degrade and eventually destroy isis, but with no use of the u.s. coalition and with no use of ground troops. ask yourself this question, if you were about president obama and you were asked to participate in a campaign and your ground troops and none of his will be the infantry, how eager would you be to sign up? >> let's see, show of hands for the international coalition to get in on this one, anybody? mueller? oh, bob, of course. what do you think? >> run through the numbers very
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quickly, 45% of isis -- 71% support air strikes. 68% air strikes? syria. meanwhile 39% of people think president obama is handling syria right. he needs to change tacks here. which means adding syria to the air strikes. the one thing for me, like iran involved in saudi arabia, but the one thing, the most important thing in this whole puzzle for me is if turkey says we're on board. turkey for some reason is saying equal on this. i know they have the kurds and peshmer peshmerga, saying we're going to alou you access to this. you look over the border and you look right into the isis training camps. the axis is right there, and a lot of it. the royal routes and the smuggling routes literally go right through turkey. >> follow the oil, follow the oil, follow the money and
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somewhere turkey help you. and i think that helps solve the problem. >> i think they've got sunni and shiia in their politics. and their president is not in great shape. tell you what this me. the american public was not for this two weeks ago. the power of seeing those two guys get killed in those videos and being sat afternoround can public opinion. it doesn't surprise me. it's everywhere. >> what do we need to hear from the president? >> i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and wait to hear what he has to say tomorrow, if he has built a broad coalition of ally ps and he arctic lates a very clear strategy for it's skis, i mean we can't even differentiate their threat level. then i think he will have done a pretty good service. but long-term, probably not.
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i talked to my sources on capitol hill today, the white house skram blgs to come up with plans. he says we don't have a strategy, the dod has had a strategy but they enraged, they have been warning about this threat for a long time. and you see them trying to manage a new cycle and put on this press conference and i think in reaction to these two beheadings and he should have done it a long time ago. and he should go to congress and get their authority, and republicans, they can't make a big deal about him u surping -- i think they have to be consistent. >> and ted cruz is on the record saying he's not an emperor, he needs to follow -- >> and this could be long-term action. >> correct. >> this isn't sustainable. he needs congress to buy in on it. >> i agree with andrea, he should get something. but he's not going to. it helps him to be ambiguous
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because hen he will never be wrong. he can always say, i thought that from the very beginning, it seems to be that's his plan. i don't think turkey is going to help. they haven't been think help to us, since, what, the first gulf war. >> we're all waiting to hear from turkey. >> in their defense, i think there's some 49 turkish officials that are being held by isis right now, as political hostages. so they may be playing that game right now. >> we sir couple vented -- >> instead of he's going rerace his own red line and go to congress and ask to attack syria. he was going to do it. but then after the last moment, he went to the american public and read this speech and said, i'm going to ask congress, knowing that he wasn't going to get approval from congress.
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yes, andrew yarks i think he should for once go ahead and do it and stop asking congress. 91% of people would goagree wit him doing it. >> the people who would potentially be a coalition, those countries are much more in harm's way than we are right now. they're right by the border. in europe, they've got a huge muslim population. and secondly, i would say this is not supportive of obama at all, he rang as a domestic president. he never liked foreign policy. >> that's pretty clear. that's actually transparent. >> and i think he's a democrat that does not like to see the engagement of american military j overseas. >> he can blame them if something goes wrong with the military campaign. >> i am really loving whoever
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shot bob beckalle up with the truth sir rule today. >> i always tell the truth. >> why did it do that? >> will the head of the dn drrks denounce the real perpetrators of domesticic violence in light of the ray rice video? next on the 5.
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welcome back, everybody. time for -- seven blazing myths vnl timing is everything. debby wasser man schultz-
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>> scott walker has given women the back of his hand. the republican people extremists by scott walker are doing is they're grabbing us by the hair amend pulling us back. >> well, it's two days later and video that you're watching right there, making the chairwoman's comments look even dumber than they already look. >> worst timing in the world. >> worst timing, worst situation, worst comparison to domestic violence, i don't know. it's not the first instance of bad comments by a waszerman shulsz. >> she ignores me but she makes me happy. how long do you stay up at night writing that open 7 series host or whatever. >> 7 serious host? >> i still condemn, no matter who you say, i didn't think she was talking about domestic abuse al all. she was trying to talk about keeping the ceiling on for
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women. >> shouldibilitibility she thin about -- >> that's just an exercise that's crazy. she heads the dnc, she's a party leader, eric. and the party believes there's a war on women. the democratic party feels they should control every issue about women down to their oaf varies. why didn't she say something? i mean they have butted their nose, the democratic party, including the president into sports for concussion, medication and trade marking should we believe that debbie wasserman-schultz? >> i askeder if she cared to make an apolicy.
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>> she routinely says terrible things, she's not nice. she's a national figure but she doesn't run nationally. she's head of the dnc, her job as a republican, which she does, she's on every right wing blog she's doing just fine. >> the republican national chairman ask -- >> i want to bring this one up, you ready for your blood to really boil now? megan kelley save the 155 a tra of her interview with professor warren churchill. >> how can you draw an ekwif lechblt between 3,000 dead americans and a murderous nazi. >> i described a core which is a group within that 3,000. >> you naulgt the dead americans were just like the nazis, however you had nothing but
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praise for the 9/11 hijackers. you called them gallant? those guys that flew those jet into the world trade center? >> you got to weigh in on it. the guy's got bad hair and a bad mind. the fact that the guy was a professor somewhere i find mind-boggling. >> that was one of the biggest issues for me as well. that these professors are teaching our kids. >> they're actually teaching bob's child. >> wait a second. this is not another -- he's not here to say every college is all for warren churchill. >> your daughter goes to a school where he was a professor, a ten-year revered professor. he dumped him for plaguerism and other issues. he had a whole list of things. he's a bad guy. >> a lot of my college professors were like this guy, with the hair and the attitude. a lot of them are like this, he
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should do a weekly segment. have a professor on, we can ski how these guys think. >> i won't how much they charge for one of their classes. >> plenty of opportunity to bring weekly profess stores on. >> he got exposed even further for the horrible human being that he is. and he was taken down kelley style. i like it. >> i think there was another portion of that interview tonight. the video that captured daniel -- -- beating the 2k8s out of a kroger clerk. note the woman yelling, hold on they got a white dude just before they unloaded on the innocent victim. >> they got a white dude. [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> okay, so blood and much kins,
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that's how one eyewitness, you know, discussing a group, two pull out, one guy goes out to help a shopper. >> disturbing video, obviously. they hold on they got white dude. that's like -- i mean it's terrible to laugh at this, but it's ridiculous. i don't know how to react to it. i have seen it once, now i'm watching it again, it's terrible. >> now i believe either we contacted the police department in the area, or they made a statement saying this was not a hate crime. i'm sure why they classified it not as a hate crime. but nonetheless, it's still disturbing video. >> it's incredibly disturbing but they must have some other statements or facts 1r0u7 s sur it to make that kind of determination, it is hard to bring a hate crime prosecution, they' they' they'
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they' they' they're actually pretty rare. >> 100 to 125 people beating up one. >> they would go in there and do the wild thing in the stores. why they haven't arrested for, i don't know. >> you don't need a hate crime, it's a crime. >> well, the hate crime is a sentence enhancement, but they're going to have a huge sen tension anyway. we're talking about it on the fastest 7, but where is the rest of the media. they cover certain issues when it fits a narrative much better than -- >> very disturbing to see a video like this. awful. >> makes your blood pressure go up. apple's long-awaited announcement on the iphone 6 today. does the product line live up to the hype? we're going to show you ahead.
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that was the legendary u-2 helping celebrate the launch of the iphone 6 today. the company unveiled two new phones, the 6 with a 4.7 inch screen and the 6 plus with a 5.5. it also deviced a watch that can supposedly do all kinds of different things. whybsessed with apples? >> apples are fun and tasty devices. i love it, i'm a recent convert to apple. >> there's no reason to camp out. >> i think it's so good. it's user friendly, you've got
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your little ipad, you've got your iphone. >> i already have the apple watch. >> really is that true? >> yes. >> how did you get that? >> that's a ribber band. >> but it's a good watch band. >> i can't see, that's another reason, it's a bigger screen. >> this is an i watch, you can wear it on your wrist. i'm dioing fine. >> i love everything about apple. i'm definitely going to get the 6, i have got the 5. the thing about the 6 is, if you know these products, the camera is one of the biggest problems with the on. >> it's a great camera. >> why? >> i don't think it's a great camera. i think galaxy blows the apple camera out of the water. but the new 6 has higher megapixels and stuff like that. it's going to be a bigger size.
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it's going to be great. >> there's two sizes. i love all these now. >> bob, what are you doing? >> i'm taking pictures here. >> is is that a back berry, bob? >> it's anticipated, like i used to anticipate the "sports illustrated" swimsuit. >> it's -- it was great. i mean everybody waited for it. because you saw the best looking women in the world. i'm telling you that, we don't wear it anywhere. >> this is an apple product. >> that is but ugly. >> what is so great about the new apple feature? the only person what's given me a really compelling answer is josh who said it comes in gold. >> gold color. >> that makes it great. >> this one comes in gold. >> i love apple products but i want to know how they stied
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cool. i remember windows 95, when they had the steone, i thought that' ridiculous, they're uncool. >> why can't they do what the galaxy does? different the galaxy remind you of someone's birthday? why can't they do that on this phone? >> they k can. >> that's why -- not why you got divorced. don't make me tell it. >> you've been divorced five times. >> no, i haven't. just one. so sorry. >> a couple of those were done in vegas, weren't they? in wombimini? >> if only the iphone could get you a quick divorce. >> the apple as well. i hold stock in apple. do you think it's going to do well? >> i'm sure this is.
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>> bring on the bacon. they're an absolute monster now, but they're still hip. >> exactly. >> but don't wear that watch, or you won't be. >> we have, coming up next on the 5, we have breaking news, nfl commissioner roger goodell has just broken his silence on this new ray rice case. you're going to hear what he has to say about it straight ahead.
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nfl commissioner roger goodell just spoke about the ray rice tape, here's what he had to say. >> did you know that the ray rice video existed? >> we asked for video, we asked for anything that was pertinent. but we were never going to get that opportunity. >> i find it very hard football that they asked for it and they couldn't get it. they didn't convene a grand jury until 6 weeks after this took police. why would they not give it to them? >> they probably asked for it from law enforcement to see it. >> isn't that the question, it is unclear because there's going
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to be different standards that are going to apply. did he ask the police department, did he ask the casino to turn it over. who did he ask afbnd what specic occasions. >> this is what i said in the a block, he needs to get in front of the camera and say this, and he did. roger goodell, like him or not, is a stand up guy, not only that, he makes a ton of money, being commissioner of the nfl. he wouldn't get up there and say something that wasn't true, get caught in a lie and get thrown out. >> what he said was -- >> we have not seen it, is what he said. >> we, is this the royal we haven't seen? the royal we here at the nfl? did anybody in the ravens organization see it? did anybody outside the nfl? i these they're playing games here, because i don't think that anybody connected with roger goodell didn't see that video.
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roger goodell had what video. it's not exactly the gold stand of. i just cannot believe the most powerful sports organization said we asked but they rebuffed us. >> he said we asked and we didn't get that opportunity. someone saw that tape and they said we saw it and you don't want to see it and he say okay. >> plausible deniable. >> this goes to my point. we shouldn't expect these companies, they're there to protect themselves. it is a big cya thing. that's why when there's a crime, you don't expect these people to deal with it. >> why would you allow him to stand up there and say basic, we probably could have go gotten it but we didn't get it. >> that's not a deflated football. >> that's what i'm saying, bob, you let the law take over. if someone commit a crime, it
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goes to the law and don't expect these people 20 be law men, they're not. >> they have processes, all these leagues do. >> i don't think they should have processes. they don't do any good. we know they're covering their butt all the time. >> the problem is they do have a process, the only time they came to a conclusion about a more sfrikt process is when tmz had the guts to take on the nfl. if it wasn't for tmz, we wouldn't be having this conversation. the nfl wants to keep all the money in its pocket. money is at the crux of all of this. >> you see what we have just set up right here? we have on one hand, tmz says we think the nfl jose seen the video. the nfl says we haven't seen the video. it's going to be very interest fog find out where this plays out. did the nfl see the video and if they did, why is roger goodell
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lying on tape. and if they didn't see the video, why is tmz accusing the nfl? >> it ain't over yet. >> up next, it's been a long time.
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time now for one more thing. >> let's talk got how isis is financing their terrorist organization. isis oil revenues. they have 30,000 barrels per day that they have taken from iraq. they have 80,000 barrels a day from syria. that's a total of 80,000 barrels per day. the black market price for a barrel of oil, $3. 40 bucks a barrel. that's $3.2 million per day in revenues to the terror group. that's $96 million per month.
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that's why we can't wait. we can't wait another month, we can't wait two or months. >> they can make the case just like you did. that's pretty easy to understand, hello, congress, check it out. >> they use all those revenues, they go buy more terrorists. there's mercenaries will come over and join. >> this is a really cute photo that the white house put on their flicker account. so respect to the oval office, a kid taking a nap or just looking fire intelligence. feast your eyes on this munchkin. the president took the time and his wife, and there's the little boy. hey, what do you do when you're in the oval office? anyway, it's pretty funny. this will follow this kid for the rest of his live. >> scotland, one of my favorite
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places, i have gone there four or five times and it never rained. a vote on september 18 to become independent of england. and, the result of that is very serious, because first of all, england took it unfairly and they -- the scotts have always wanted to be free, and if it happens, david cameron could be out as prime minister. >> i think that's a very good -- >> think it could happen. >> i think it's a very big margin. >> i was just in scotland, so this is great. i took some i known video. i had my family out there, i was performing 24 shows in a row in edinburgh. and we were able to visit edgecoleman islanedg edgecomb island. i was in edinburgh. it's fantastic. >> very cool internationally.
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our own greta van sustren has stayed on the case. he has a trial that's set to resume at 7:00 p.m. eastern. let's not forget about one of our american heroes that's still in this prison. they're going to decide if he really did make that wrong turn. please get the attention of the mexican government. kudos to greta for staying on this story. and >> it's wednesday, september 10th. a fox news alert. while you were sleeping republican scott brown wins the
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new hampshire race. >> playing defense over the ray rice video. >> we asked for video, anything that was pertinent but we were never acquainted that opportunity. >> why he didn't go directly to the source. >> first it was tweet now it's the meat. >> schools forcing kids to go meatless on monday. we report, you decide. "fox & friends first" starts right now. ♪ >> good morning, you are watching "fox & friends first".
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i am heather childers. >> while you were sleeping scott brown declares victory in new hampshire. >> the former massachusetts senator with a crowded field in new hampshire gop series. he was against democrat jean shaheen. he went out swinging during his victory speech. >> nobody in the senate is more invested in the policy of the failures of president obama than senator shaheeshaheen. he vote withed obama 99 percent of the time. >> browndowns i s -- brown join live at 7:15. martha copley the man who lost the special election to scott brown wins the democratic primary for novrn another with

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