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today. have a great week. and we'll see you next "fox news sunday." this week on "the journal editorial report," president obama promising changes to policing in america in the wake of two controversial grand jury decisions. will the reforms he's proposing make a difference on the streets in. plus, florida governor jeb bush inching closer to a decision on 2016. but could he win the republican nomination? and falling pump prices are giving u.s. consumers some extra green this holiday season. but could cheap oil undermind the u.s. energy revolution? >> we are not going to let up until we see a strengthening of
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the trust and a strengthening of the accountability that exists between our communities and our law enforcement. when anybody in this country is not being treated equally under the law, that's a problem. and it's my job as president to help solve it. >> welcome to "the journal editorial report. "that was president obama wednesday promising changes to policing in america in the wake of the staten island grand jury decision not to indict a police officer in the july death of a black man restrained in a chokehold. that decision, of course, followed last week's unrest in ferguson, missouri, after a grand jury there declined to charge police officer darren wilson in the shooting death of another black suspect, michael brown. the president announced monday the creation of a task force to come up with steps for, quote, building public trust in police forces nationwide." it called on congress to fund a $263 million community policing
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initiative including 75 million to equip police officers with body cameras. joining the panel this week, wall street journal columnist dan headinger, political diary editor jason riley, and columnist bret stevens. jason, first to the grand jury decision in new york. what do you make of the decision not to indict? everybody saw the video with the chokehold and frankly it was troubling? >> the video was troubling but that's not all the evidence. they have seen all the eyewitness accounts and we have to respect the grand jury process this in this country. i don't feel like i'm in a position to question it. >> i have to agree with jason on anybody else disagreeing with that? >> well, it was over 20 citizens. and they have 50 witnesses. they saw over 60. they took nine weeks to look at it. >> so there was a lot of detail in there that they heard about the nature of the confrontation between the two. and they are done in secrecy so
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the citizens are not intimidated by the outside. but that grand jury system does seem to be the element here that is under attack, even governor cuomo is saying he's going to start to address changes to the grand jury system. that is a very serious issue. >> but look, you don't have to disagree with the conclusions of the grand jury to find what happened with eric garner extremely troubling. you don't have to say that the officer has to go and face a trial to say that his behavior raises some very serious questions about the way in which the police go about some of their work. this is a very different case from the ferguson case. there was no question that mr. garner was not threatening the officer with violence or force. his life was not in jeopardy. he was committing at most a petty crime that probably shouldn't be criminal at all. >> selling black market cigarettes. >> yes, selling so-called loose
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cigarettes, the amount of force used against him was shocking. it was shocking to me. and we have a question about a police force that seems totally out of touch with the communities its intended to serve. >> in new york city or nationwide? >> well, i'm saying that just in new york city but also nationwide. look, william bratton, the commissioner of mr. is in new york likes to talk about his adherence to the nine principles of policing laid by robert peel. >> we are not going into all nine here. >> no, we are not going into all nine, but two key ones. the police is a function of the public and public trust is essential to effective policing and the use of physical force can only be used when there's no other option necessary. >> from the new york post in 1994, the cop shot 61 people and killed 21. last year they shot 26 and killed 8. all were tragedies and were as a result of physical force, but that dud not suggest an epidemic
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of police violence. >> no, on the other hand the amount of crime in new york is far down from what it was in 1984. >> last year there were more than 200 demeanor arrests in new york city. none resulted in a death. part of the problem i have here is taking aberrations like an eric garner or what happened to michael brown and turning them in topretend he was not the norm. the black homicide rate by contrast is more than 6300 per year. 18 per day. and almost all of them are black perpetrato perpetrators. people are taking exceptions, trying to turn them into the norm. this is not about common behavior. bratton also said the police are in the communities because that's where the 9/11 calls originated. and i don't like the idea of this narrative, the poor people in the communities need the cops
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there. >> brent is right, that is crucial to this. perhaps we can get collarly on exactly what the complaint is here. is the complaint that people occasionally get killed in confrontations with the police? is it about the techniques they use when get iting -- there are those who criticize the broken window model. the idea to target minor offenses because if you don't they turn into bigger offenses. there's a school of thought now that should stop and only go after a major crime. at what point will the police step back and the crime rates rise if you change from the motto we have been using.
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>> we should ask for not spray paint i painting these things but there is a reason to behave this way -- >> i think everybody agrees with that. agree, do you in this case? >> the problem again, i believe, is that why do so many young men turn to a life of crime like eric garner who had an arrest going back 30 years? why do so many young michael brown like-men have to be
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i kind of i kind of know how a republican can win, whether it's me or somebody else, and it has to be much more uplifting, much more positive, much more willing to, you know, to be practical now in washington world, lose the primary to win the general without violating your principles. >> that was jeb bush at the wall street journal ceo council this week. he's facing criticism from the right for those comments. and there's little doubt that his embrace of immigration
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reform and common core educational standards could put him at odds with some gop primary voters. so as he nears a decision on running for president, can the former florida governor convince conservatives he's the man for the job? we're back with dan henniger and bret stevens, and james freeman also joining the panel. bret, we don't know if he's going to run, only he does, but he's getting and making all the right signs if he were going to run, how forward of a candidate will he be? >> he'll be the clear frontrunner from the beginning and probably at this moment the only republican candidate to defeat hillary clinton. >> tell us how you really feel about that, bret. the only one to beat hillary clinton? >> the only one who doesn't have, i think, a fatal achilles heel in his record. maybe not the only one, but certainly the strongest one. a ten one who has, frankly, the best record in a purple state that is going to appeal to
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strong conservative voters and also to middle of the road voters who don't want a tea party conservativism that took over the last few years. >> if that's true, why would he make the statement that you have to be able to lose the primaries to be able to win the general in that's not a message the primary voters like to see, that they have to somehow be overcome in order to win a general election. >> yeah, i think what you saw in that comment is whether there's the fire in the belly, which is obviously a critical ingredient if you're going to win this thing. >> crucial. >> crucial. and i also -- in terms of his message, he -- you think about last time, i'm not saying he would be bad as romney, but romney had a big problem in that you're setting the bar. given his health care reforms, he couldn't attack obamacare in a way that another candidate could. this time, the big argument against hillary clinton would normally be she's representing the past, that's another era,
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let's turn the page. obviously, that's not a comment or attack that a candidate bush can make. >> but it would neutralize the dynamic concern, they both would be family candidates. >> yeah, i think the substantive question for him is if you're a conservative who thinks you need a period of reforms to undo a lot of the obama era damage, is this really a reformer or a mainstream establishment type who is not going to make really fundamental change. >> his record in florida for a reformer particularly on education and taxes and other things, it's a conservative record. >> it was aative record in florida. he cut taxes like ronald reagan did. he passed a gun law that was not to crackdown on laws but to liberalize the use of guns. >>. pushed vouchers. >> vetoed hundreds of spending bills and cut spends in florida. by any measure, he was an
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extremely conservetive governor down there and popular when he left. 60% approval when he left. so, you know, if conservatives generally are going to say this, because he said something about supporting the common core or don't like what he said on immigration, therefore he can't be the nominee and the republican party will have trouble succeeding. >> and he won 60% of the latino vote in florida. i think republicans have to get wise to the idea that that is a very important consideration if they are going to retake the white house. >> >> i like where he's going on immigration, but if you want the conservative reformer, you think of scott walker. i would say he went further in terms of pushing reform and more recently in again a swing state like florida is. >> let's talk about immigration and common core, educational standards. how big of a barrier are those two, james, to jeb bush getting
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the nomination? >> i don't think immigration is because i think you can make a great case on how this strengthens the company. you talk about high-tech, you drive around silicon valley, you can't find a company that was not funded by or hugely helped by immigrants in this country. so i think there's a good case there, in common core there's a structural issue conservatives will not like. we can debate, it's still kind of tough to tell what it is doing to education, but just this idea that this aught to be a national issue and a focus is a fundamentally requirement to make it state standards in charge of -- >> he does have a problem because anyone, myself included, who have young children going through common core math and find ourselves tearing out our hair at the new math, for us this is kind of a gut-level issue but it shows we have to
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pander or ponder this. >> you have the islamic rampaging in the middle east. putin is seeking iran. and the question is whether the president should be right on common core? >> dan, thank you. when we come back, lower pump prices give american consumers a boost and deal a blow to some of the world's dictators. is there a downside to oils plunging? mhere's our new trainer! ensure active heart health.
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not everyone can be a foster parent, but anyone can help a foster child. after years of rising oil prices, u.s. well, after years of rising oil prices, consumers are now getting a break. we are hovering near $2.75 a gallon and falling below $2 in one city this week. that's welcomed news as
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americans head into the holiday shopping season, but is there a downside to the plunge? we are back with dan henniger and james freeman and mary anastasia is also here. mary, why have prices fallen so fast? >> they have fallen but they are not down to the $10 range that we have in 1999. like most, this has to deal with supply and demand. so we are drowning in isle, we have this big revolution in the u.s. and on top of that, we have a global recession. a big slowdown, and we have success with a lot of the conservation in the developing world. you put all the things together and effects are on the downside. >> what are the good things about this plunge? >> it's a giant tax cut.
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in fact, i'm already eyeing and thinking of raising the gas tax so you know what is going on there. but the problem potentially is for some oil fields, they will still be able to bring up oil at a profit. but i think the investment going forward will slow down until we find an equal ibrium in what we're doing. they have lower breaking points than where we are now. >> i think it has to deal with manufacturing and using energy, which is all manufacturing, but
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the other benefit is you're putting a lot of pressure on a lot of bad dies in the world. dictatorships are build on $100 million bare barrels of oil. >> your point about putin, watch it. they are so dependent on revenue from oil vat pir putin could facilitate more on this. >> none of this energy revolution was planned by government but it happened because people saw the price go
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up and said, let's find new ways to get the oil out. secondly, there are no such things as a people saying we are going to run out of energy. the answer is, no we are not as long as you have a market to allow prices to float. >> i think it is also important to wear out, what it costs to bring up a these things. >> when we come back, the hits and misses of the week. omes creeping up on you... fight back with relief so smooth... ...it's fast. tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue ...and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum, tum tum tum... smoothies! only from tums.
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time now for hits and misses of the week. jason, start us off. >> paul, this is a miss to the city of chicago for raising the minimum wage to $13 an hour in the name of helping out the
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poor. we know raising the minimum wage is an inefficient way of targeting poverty. most of that goes to middle-income households, teenagers, retirees, but what poor households need is jobs. when you increase the cost of hiring someone, fewer people get hired. >> few people understand that logic. mary? >> this is a miss for the grim reaper for taking from us this man at the age of 56 in november. he was a molecular biologist who got rich in the privatization in russia but became the finance minister in the soviet state of georgia, the former soviet state of georgia. and when he became the finance minister, he cut taxes and abolished a lot of other taxes. he abolished permits and lots of regulation that georgia went from being the 147th most difficult place in the world to
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do business to the 11th. and he was in line to become the finance minister for the ukraine and he passed away in november. >> he will be missed. dan? >> as an ohioan, i'm going to give a miss to ohio senator rob hortman who announced he will not run for the presidency. let's make it clear, you have to respect somebody's decision to get into something like that, but people are worried about gridlock in washington and things not happening. no one knew more about why that was happening and what could we have done about it in the area of taxes, health care, trade, even national security. so not having the senator's contribution to the presidential campaign will be missed. >> possible vp choice? >> i think that's entirely possible and he would be good. >> okay, dan. remember, if you have your own hit or miss, be sure to tweet it to us at jer@foxnews.com. that's it for this week's show. thank you so much to my panel and to all of you for watching.
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i'm paul gigot. hope to see you all here next week. the u.s. now says it released six detainees in what is the largest transfer from the prison in five years. welcome to "america's headquarters." i'm arthel neville. leland vittert has more now from washington. >> reporter: arthel, no question this has major political implications on two levels. first, it gets the obama administration closer to the magic 100 number where the president feels he can keep his campaign promise to close the guantanamo bay prison. second, at least one

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