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we've got you can back, we think your money is important and when it comes to something like this, all this money they're just in reruns and if that's fine for you, that is fine. i care for you. i don't want this to happen to you. >> hello everyone. i'm dana parrino. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." president obama laid out a wide ranging agenda during his sixth state of the union address last night in remarks some say may further strain relations between him and a gop control congress. the >> my plan would make child care more available for every middle class and low income family with
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every family in america. i'm send thing congress a bold new plan to lower the cost of community college. to zero. i'm launching a new medicine initiative to bring us closer to cures of diseases like cancer, diabetes. i intend to expand the internet to every classroom, every community. >> the president focused on a message that resonated with voters in 2012. a fair share economy. >> we believe sensible regulations would prevent another crisis and encourage fair competition and make sure everyone gets their fair shot. everyone does their fair share to give working families a fair shot. they're not just free, but also fair. we can achieve that together. >> we know what word tested well before the state of the union.
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that would be fair. so on friday night, the white house released a plan that would increase taxation of earnings on all college savings plans. they're called 529 plans. so if you save for college, you would be penalized. but then two days later, he says they're going to have community college free for everyone. >> he pointed out all the things he wanted to do including cure cancer. we're all for that, there's only one problem, he failed to mention there's no way we can pay for 80% of the stuff. he has already tacked on $7.5 trillion of debt on his watch alone. when he leaves office he will leave the next president with as much debt than the whole 1 through 43 incurred and 44
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doubled. he did exactly what we thought he would do lay out a lot of politics and not much policy. >> our friend and former colleague governor huckabee said that's two sure things about the obama administration debt and taxes. interesting cute phrase. the lead-up to the state of the union considered some great pr. you have all this attention how smart it was. i think the coverage was betterof the leadup was better than the speech itself. i'm wondering in all of the things he listed, knowing most of the people that are new to congress were sent there to slow stop or reverse some of policies, do they think the measure of success is accomplishing nothing significant in the last two years of this congress? >> he sounded optimistic and proud of himself and taking credit for the economy. this is what he does best, santa
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claus. let me pass it around. let me hand out more entitlements. get me give you credits for college. whatever it takes to make people more dependent on government. he feels he knows best how to hand it out and redistribute it. so if you believe in that philosophy and that ideology, you're going to say last night was a tremendous success, because you see the country going in a different direction. but if you're for free markets and free enterprise and you believe in a capitalist society and growing things from the ground up, with the money that the people at the top are making spreading it out for more opportunity you're going to look for reform. >> greg the other day you predicted there would be 62 applause lines. there were actually 67 lily 76.
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>> i wasn't far enough. i was clapping but for different reasons. good speech, actually. i thought it was one of his better ones even though it was still awful. that wasn't just pie in the sky he promised everything that wasn't going to happen. the thing that drives me crazy about him, this thing that he does when he relies heavily on this manufactured ernest voice. it's like he's mimicking the straining engine of a plane gaining altitude when he's trying to make a point. he's got sent mental software and it turns on and it sounds so damn fake. it was phony. phony, phony, phony. the other thing too, all of his proposals are based on straw men. if you disagree with president obama, you hate women, you hate children, you love cancer, you're against fairness. this is what causes the polarization.
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that if you're not with him you're against all good things when republicans and democrats are both for good things, they just have a different way of getting there. the republicans believe they have a superior approach than he does. when he says you are not for my approach, he's saying that you are, in a sense, evil. and then he decries polarization. he says, why can't we all be together after he says, you hate children. make sense? >> yeah, it does. in the leadup bob said the midterm elections we talked about what could happen in a divided congress. could things can happen. people talk to 1996 when bill clinton and newt gingrich and the rest of the republicans worked together and signed welfare reform. we all thought that would be a good possibility for this president and this new congress. after last night do you think that's still possible. >> you have to look at this two ways. was it a political speech or a policy speech? it was a political speech obviously.
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was it a way to protect his own legacy in terms of obamacare and other things he doesn't want to see touched? yes, it was. he leaves some openings where there could be some negotiated relief as a taxpayer. i think there was. i think it was a very good speech. i was a little surprised how political it was, and i think that the most important thing of all was how times change. that audience was overwhelmingly republican, and you could tell from the applause meter that this was a president of one party addressing an overwhelmingly republican party. >> it didn't have to be that way. that was a choice. >> maybe. >> he disarmed the republicans fairly quickly with that ad lib one liner. >> can i move on to your next favorite topic the economy. i have something to read here. president obama issued a number of veto threats last night.
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one caught the attention of members of both parties. >> our diplomacy is at work with respect with iran. there are no guaranties that negotiations will succeed and i keep all options on the table to prevent a nuclear iran. but new sanctions passed by this congress at this moment in time will all be guaranty that diplomacy fails. and that's why i will veto any new sanctions bill that threatens to undo this progress. >> we're going to do the economy after we talk about iran. kimberly, president obama last night issuing a number of veto threats, one on this iran piece. that veto could be the first veto that is overridden for this president, because you have a congress including democrat chairman of the foreign relations committee ranking chairman, bob menendez of new jersey saying today that it sounded like the president's talking points came straight from tehran.
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this is not setting up for diplomatic success. speaker boehner invited benjamin netanyahu to address the full congress, which the white house is not happy about. >> that was a bold and courageous move. it seems the president is out of step even with members of his own party and his global view of a national security in the united states, and who he really sees as our enemies and who he does not. who he's more interested in appeasing than setting a firm line with. that's a fundamental choice that people can make going forward, especially as it relates to 2016. this was a precursor and a setup for that platform. >> good transition. one more question on iran. i'll give it to bob. that is everyone is sort of looking to see what hillary clinton might say about the entire state of the union but on iran she says the congress passing more sanctions even if
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they were a slap back one, she said it would be disastrous for foreign policy. >> i think she's probably right. what none of us don't know is what is going on in the negotiations. there's a lot of back door negotiations. >> that's the problem. you just nailed the problem, bob. look, you have a congress that wants sanctions, a senate that wants sangions, and they're going to send it to the president's desk. however, one man stands in front of sanctions because what, he's going to call the shots for all of america? when the people elected their representatives who want sanctions on iraq. but the back door deal on iraq, you said it. there's a lot of back door dealing going on. we don't want that when you're dealing with terrorists. >> you're dealing with trying to get a country to say it's not going to use and develop nuclear
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weapons, i think you have to take into account that our partners in those negotiations have been quiet about this which means there is probably something going on. >> let me -- you want to do iran? >> no, i was just going to say one of the big points that president obama said is that we have to break the cycle of old patterns. this is what he's been saying. he said it and then he unleashed more punitive taxes. he talked about government bloat and appeasement of our enemies. this is the music of progressivism. >> a little thing that is new, there has been more good news about the economy. let's take a look at that clip. >> tonight, after a breakthrough year for america, our economy is throwing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999. the shadow of crisis has past,
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and the state of the union is strong. at this moment with a growing economy, shrinking deficits bustling industry, booming energy production we have risen from refregs freer to write our own future than any other nation on earth. >> they didn't agree with a lot of what the president has to say. >> the job, the labor participation, we heard this, the lowest in 40 years. but a lot of the reason why things are better is because of low energy prices low gas prices, lower oil. he's taking credit for that. he was against a lot of the things, a lot of the reasons why our energy production is up. he wasn't for fracking everywhere before. he adopted that later, he wanted
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higher gas prices. if you build a coal plant, we'll necessarily bankrupt you. steven chu saying we need to get prices at european levels to reduce demand. so to take credit for that is disingenuous at the very best. >> he continues to point out there are fewer people participating in the labor force. since 2007 7.45 million people have gone into retirement on social security. that's the difference. >> if you put all the people back into the labor force that were there -- >> you can't do that. >> you know what the rate would be? 10% unemployment. >> people retire every year. >> but bob, that's not the entire story. >> people also enter the labor force. they become 18 years of age. your number is wrong.
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>> it's not wrong. >> how many people entered the labor force? you don't have that number, do you? >> no. >> they're all unemployed and living with their parents. >> we've got to run. coming up next, president obama issues a dire warning about climate change during his address, but doesn't once mention al qaeda. greg will tell us whether he thinks the president has his priorities in order when we return.
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so i wonder if no challenge
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poses a greater threat to future generations than climate change. >> no challenge, no challenge poses a greater threat to future generations than climate change. the best scientists in the world are all telling us that our activities are changing the climate. i will not let this congress endanger the health of our children by turning back the clock on our efforts. >> you've got me mr. president. i hate children. they're so child-like. so the man who hates polarization claim it is you disagree with him, you want kids to suffer. no doubt he cares he calls global warming the national threat a slap in the face to isis and al qaeda. he claimed 2014 is the warmest year on record failing to mention we're talking about a
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hundredth of a degree. so his lie reveals the warming pause. but he knew that and he still said it assuming like jonathan grouper, america is just too dumb to question his bull. he's like car dealer who doesn't tell you about the body in the trunk, then blames you for not asking when you're arrested. so obama exaggerates one threat while avoiding the name of a real threat like al qaeda. why is that? for lefties only america can be at fault. and the war against climate change provides the right villain, america. the right of islamic terror requires leaders to condemn a foreign toxic ideology and you can't do that because if there is no american culprit, there is no american punishment which is a big bummer. so it's no wonder he used bad data. without it he would be struck with the truth. that's the scariest thing of all.
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so kimberly he actually used this piece of data, shows that this was a difference of 0.02 celsius. this makes no sense. this is what he based this on. idiotic. >> bad math. he wants to be global czar. he's thinking about his next job after he's done trashing the country and scaring everyone. why was this even in the speech? wow, that's the biggest threat to our national security? he just doesn't get it. six years in and he still doesn't get it. if that doesn't paint the picture for you about his priorities and lack of focus on real problems in this country, you're never going to get it. going to want to
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support him in general because you like his ideas and don't want america to be coming forward in life instead of this nonsense with global warming. >> bob, even you've got to admit when he says this is the key top national security factor, his priorities need to shift. the apocalyptic threat is not climate, it's terror. >> in the current situation it does amaze me that he hasn't yet used the word islamic terrorist. i'm still at a loss to figure that out. secondly, i think in the immediate situation, it's certainly not -- climate change is not the biggest national security threat to this country. certainly terrorism is. in the long run and here is where we have our disagreement. in the long run it clearly and persuasively and without question is the largest national security threat than terrorists. but that's a difference of opinion. >> i've got facts.
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>> i've got facts you got facts. >> 1998 was 0.3 celsius warmer. the probability that a different year was warmer was 62%. those are facts. >> if you take fortune out of the last 14 years, it's been warmer. >> global pause. >> climate models have been compromised. they have. >> if you buy into that, you're suggesting that all these scientists and others have made this decision in a conspiracy with obama to make it the biggest national security -- >> not a conspiracy. there's certain organizations that create these poorly sourced data, because their careers rely on it. >> sure. >> everybody does that. we talk about that with security. >> he's citing the national oceanic administration and a lot of universities. >> there's plenty who disagree and they have facts.
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>> so do our people. >> i love this topic. >> can i answer kg's question? certainly not to have this debate we've had a bunch of times whether we're getting warmer or cooler. the reason why president obama brings it up in the state of the union is two words, tom stire, the billionaire who love to throw money at people who believe climate change is the biggest threat to america. president obama has to worry about when he leaves office, what is he going to be doing. >> so you agree with me? >> totally. he's going to lead office and say, look what hewe've done. i'm your spokesperson for this, let's go make this big.
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clinton has the global initiative. my guess is he's going to be right up there lobbying. >> or he'll go to the u.n., which will be great for traffic. >> i have a short thing. >> you have a short thing? how appropriate. i was going to ask you, the fact that they haven't looked at the cost and benefits of it is even more frightening. >> they might be able to get to a reasonable solution if they did a comprehensive energy bill. but where president obama should really give that speech is not in america. our emissions have gone down. our businesses are being more responsible. our consumers are demanding it. and it's probably because we're better at it. where he should give that speech is in china. >> they'll love it. >> they will dwarf our emissions and if it's a global problem, if you do something here and not there, it won't matter. >> he's auditioning.
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>> when we return, is vice president biden gearing up for a potential democratic showdown with hillary? uncle joe with some candid words this morning. that's next.
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that decision and i will make that decision in that time frame. >> dana? >> of all the democrats, joe biden is the most experienced and the most likable. i think that he could actually be a good candidate for them. the problem for him will be it's very unusual for a party to hold the white house for three terms. it's only happened since 1948 and that is when george h.w. bush won in '88. but i think he has a chance. i like him. >> what do you think? >> i don't think he has a chance, but it will be great for us. >> the gift that keeps on giving. >> he's so likable you just want to pull for joe biden. here's the only thing i saw during the speech, i saw elizabeth warren standing up quite a bit. i think he's going to be the one. i never saw this coming, a lot of people said she's a viable candidate. but the more and more you hear about her, she seems like the
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right one. >> she's like oh. >> i think joe biden would be a better candidate than elizabeth warren. >> better than hillary? >> i think he would be a better candidate, yeah. i think that she's going to -- look she's going to get somebody against her. biden is a logical guy to get in. for a guy his age, he looks pretty good. >> yeah. sure when you swim naked -- >> whoa! >> did you make that up? >> no, it's true. >> way tmi. >> we have facts. >> really. >> you saw pictures, by the way. he's kind of like your buddy on open mike night. he's somebody that you humor with phony encouragement. he hasn't found his ideal job. i see him running like a giant space zoo. it seems like he's always excited about something.
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>> he would love that. >> for those of you at home sitting there grewed edglued to the tv, what about the gop side and how did they react to the president's state of the union? take a listen. >> the problem with the president's speech tonight is his goals and policies don't match up. >> i heard a lot about free stuff but not much about how he's going to pay for it. >> it was disappointing to see the president refusing to acknowledge the overwhelming sentiment of the american people that we want a different path, we want robust economic growth, we want people to be able to achieve the american dream and that's getting harder and harder right now. >> we'll begin with bob and go around. >> i didn't hear much, except with ted cruz was right on point with his message. again, the republicans have got to have a message here that is clear and concise and given by somebody who has some standing to say it and they don't.
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my guess still is that there's a possibility that somebody from the outside, a ben carson or somebody, that will come out of nowhere and grab the republican nomination. i still think ted cruz and sarah palin are the best two candidates. >> you saw the post state of the union, the response all the talking points. >> did you hear anything you like? >> you like all this stuff, and everything that rand paul, ted cruz and who was the firstco rubio. it just feels like everyone is clapping for him and loves him, and then there are sound bilttes from candidates who are going to run on the gop side. maybe it would be a better thing not to do those. maybe the gop response, maybe do it another day. >> because he has the homefield advantage.
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>> so not an enviable position to be in. i think the best response, i agree with eric. if somebody asked me, i would have said no, i'm not going to respond. it's not that important. but then i would think about how i can sound like him. i said this before the left makes bad ideas sound great and the right makes great ideas sound old and wooden. you had joni ernst last night a great person, but she came off like a toll free recording from your bank, because they took the life out of her. conservative values are like the car you don't have to sell, because it all works. liberalism requires your best salesman because it's lemon. but it's new world now. conservatism is competing against amazing salesmen on the other side, and they have to
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find their obama. >> i would say the fact that jeb bush weighed in late, as usual he was exactly the right time. everybody else put their stuff out and then take an accumulation of everything they said. >> on facebook yeah. >> well, sounds like bob is trying to get a job from jeb bush. >> that may be my only choice. >> it's looking that way. directly ahead, what nfl watchers have dubbed deflate gate. league officials have found evidence the patriots have broke the rules. new details and that coming up. no chest-beating monologues about engine size, horsepower, or performance. no anthemic soundtracks to stir the soul. just a ram heavy duty that can carry more weight than any other heavy-duty truck.
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♪ time for -- the fastest six or so minutes on television. first up the afc champions face
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fines and sanctions for using deflated footballs that some say make it easier to throw and case. the nfl will issue their findings within days. espn's mike wilbon went further. >> i would say to the new england patriots, if this is found to be true in the next 72 hours, you know what? you're forfeiting your spot in the super bowl. get out. you ore a cheater you're a lying franchise. if true if you can prove it get out. >> bobby the patriots what -- >> i think it's ridiculous to call for them to lose their title. they got there legitimately. this is the second major issue concerning the patriots in three or four years. they have to learn to play by the rules or learn to play without playing the game. >> you want to get in there?
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>> i have something funny. >> there's some rumor now and this is unconfirmed but bill belichick might be pulled for the super bowl if they find out he had knowledge of that. >> that wouldn't be good. >> your thoughts? >> the players will find a way to get around that. is that sufficient? if you cheated and screwed up the whole game and the outcome and changed nfl history and who was going to the super bowl? i don't know. i find this to be an interesting legal dilemma. >> they think he's that good of a coach? >> i totally get that. you've got other people who stepped in and they know what they're doing. and you have tom brady. what is he going to do cry in a corner because he doesn't have his coach? >> i was going to ask what will they do with all the t-shirts? >> i don't think they're going to get to the point where they pull them. >> what did you call it?
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>> they're already going to be punished enough. katy perry is performing at the halftime. that's enough for anybody. >> not a katy perry fan. >> who is? >> i am. >> this one hiltts close to home for me one of football's greatest players saying, if he had a son now he wouldn't let him play football. >> if you had an 8-year-old kid now, would you tell him you wanted him to play football sh >> i wouldn't. would you? >> no. that's sad. i wouldn't. my whole life was football. i think the risk is worse than the reward, i really do. >> all right. i spent many a sunday after at soldier field, and i watched you crush line backers and now you're afraid of the game? don't be a wussy iron mike!
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>> that's terrible. >> i don't know. >> terrible. >> i guess if i had a son now, i would say who are you? where did you come from? it is unusual that a legend would disown his own universe. this is like al sharpton rejecting hoaxes. i don't know. that's it. >> it's like hollywood that says violence in movies is not a good thing. >> they did a definitive study what happens with concussions from football and that's what he's reacting to. if you love your kid -- >> my kid is in high school and if he said he wanted to play football, i would be all for it. >> i think you should let your kid play what they want to play if their passion is football, so be it. >> would you let yours play?
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>> i would let him play, but what mike ditka said is true, there's tremendous injuries and damage that is long-term, traumatic brain injuries with football. i've seen it happen with friends of mine that have played over the years. >> what if he wanted to enlist? the military? >> more dangerous, right? >> well they're not 8 years old. >> some of them could be. >> how about this one, super bowl xlix is ten days away, but toyota is out of the blocks first with this ad. >> it really didn't matter what surroundings you're in to become a good dad. i think it's where you want to be and how you see life. if you see life in a negative light, a lot of things can happen and you can go down the wrong path. if you can see positivity and sort of blossom into an opportunity to where you wouldn't even fathom where you would end up. >> being a dad doesn't have anything to do with blood. it's not biological. it's about a choice you make to
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hov your children. >> what kind of dad do you want to besome >> very quickly, $4.5 million for an ad like that. >> i love it. you said to be quick. i love it. >> i thought it was brilliant. >> dana? >> i like it. >> greg? >> i don't have a father. i'm deeply offended. up next can you guess bob's favorite moment from state of the union? here's clue. it made republicans very angry and the media and left thought it was a burn. the answer when we return. thanks for the ride around norfolk! and i just wanted to say geico is proud to have served the military for over 75 years! roger that. captain's waiting to give you a tour of the wisconsin now.
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>> there was one line i loved last night. want to hear it? >> i have no more campaigns to run. my only agenda -- [ applause ] i know, because i won both of them. .
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>> the republicans got stunned on that one. >> he nailed them. i don't know if they saw that coming or had that line set up. >> obviously off the top of his head. >> he looked of at the republicans and turned to the democrats and said i know, because i won twice. . he said you want to get the job done right hire a veteran. that was my favorite line of the night. why didn't we think of that in 2008? >> i think that he showed he can be provoked by three clappers. but it's not the first time he has to remind everybody that he won. remember with john mccain when he turned to senator mccain and said elections have consequences, john and i won.
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and he didn't do anything to recognize that republicans cleaned his clock just three months ago. >> you don't want to admit that you got bit. greg, did you love it? >> he won, but his party lost and the country lost, as well. . the republicans should feel the sting, so they go out and try to win. i think that's helpful. i agree with eric. i do think this was planned. it was a game of joke chess. he had that first line and knew that was going to get a heckle and he had the second line ready and it's very clever. >> you think he planned it? >> of course. he knew that line was going to get that response. i thought it was clever. >> except for the fact that he gutted his own party. there were 83 fewer democrats listening. >> do you think it was planned?
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>> yeah it was planned, but it was good. >> republicans need to be that clever. they've got to be that clever. >> i just want more decor rum. . >> one more thing is up next. in my world, wall isn't a street... return on investment isn't the only return i'm looking forward to. for some every dollar is earned with sweat, sacrifice, courage. which is why usaa is honored to help our members with everything from investing for retirement to saving for college. our commitment to current and former military members and their families is without equal. start investing with as little as fifty dollars.
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time now for "one more thing." it's bob's lucky day. >> you know that i am a big teddy cruz fan. we worked last night on teddy
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getting ready to respond. teddy made a mistake. you can't make mistakes like this. let's take a look at what happened. >> tonight america received a powerful demonstration that it is time to move on beyond president obama. medium incomes have stagnated for over a decade. let me start over. tonight america saw a powerful demonstration. >> he didn't follow my advice. >> i hope he doesn't get ahold of our out takes. >> greg, your turn. >> i'm very excited because i say to the director, should we plan this shot? don't worry, i can handle it. i'm a pro. you are not even close. these are unicorn slippers.
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>> that is awful. >> these are awesome. somebody sent me these unicorn slippers. they didn't leave a name or return address. you have to tell me what package did this come in so i know it is you. this is made out of real rabbit. they just gutted a rabbit. what is wrong withplace? >> look at those slippers. >> way to ruin it people. so very quickly and the rich of the rich the elite of the elite are gathering to talk about everything that is important on the plan including climate change apparently. they fly there on their g 5s. al gore announced a world tour that will feature 100 artists and hit all seven continents, broadcast in 190 countries called live earth to raise awareness on global change with
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his g-5. >> big carbon footprint. >> looking forward to that concert tour. >> you will probably go to that concert. i think it is important because they have not been forgotten, the two officers that gave their lives protecting our community here in new york city. a very nice thing has been done, great for the children, family members, two brooklyn streets renamed in honor of those murdered cops on the line of duty. that is pretty exciting. it passed unanimously at the city council park committee. they will nod be forgotten. i got a reading assignment for you. go to "new york times" magazine website you can find a new article that just posted about megyn kelly.
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so you can spend your evening watching that. i will be on at 9:30. >> you don't want to be involved. >> when you get caught for being a you know what. set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is next. political war over iran's potential for nuclear war. republicans pursue sanctions. president obama promises a veto and now another world leader is involved. this is "special report." welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. the senate wants a say in the president's negotiations with iran. the president is promising to veto any new or increased sanctions and basically telling republicans to stay out of it. that is a recipe for a political mushroom cloud here in washington. chief congressional correspondent tells us tonight republicans


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