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it guides tourists through the venue's three main studios. i think virtual reality's going to be taking over the world and you never have to buy a ticket to see anything again. gregg: absolutely. you can stay in bed all day. i vote for that. [laughter] thanks everybody. martha: buy eastbound. "happening now" starts now. jenna: well potential leaders with their eyes on the oval office crisscrossing the country, listening to voters and pitching ideas in three critical states today. good morning and welcome to "happening now," everybody, i'm jenna lee. jon: and i'm jon scottment we're watching the long and winding road to the white house starting in new hampshire where hillary clinton will be heading soon. new jersey governor chris christie also in the granite state this week. florida senator marco rubio former texas governor rick perry and former florida governor jeb bush all set to visit today and tomorrow. south carolina holds the first primary in the south, and former pennsylvania senator rick
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santorum and ohio governor john kasich will be there soon. wisconsin governor scott walker planning to visit iowa next week along with louisiana governor bobby jindal and former hewlett-packard ceo carly myrrhea. -- fiorina. you heard her just a little while ago. let's cover it with nina easton, a fox news contributor, jamie weinstein is senior editor at "the daily caller." welcome to both of you. >> great to be here. >> thank you. jon: it sounds nina, like the republican field is about to get a lot more crowded. we have, what, three declared candidates already, but everybody seems to be headed for new hampshire and those early primary states. >> and what's still fascinating, jon, is that there's been such an attempt -- by both parties -- to lessen the importance of these small states iowa and new hampshire. so we've seen these efforts the past couple years to move the primaries of other states, bigger, more important states
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up. but still once again we're in that cycle where these states matter. particularly new hampshire which has a storied history. remember john mccain, his campaign collapsed essentially, in 2007. he did not win iowa. mike huckabee won. but he came roaring back in new hampshire and new hampshire is really a place where you can make a mark come roaring back and get ahead of the pack. jon: chris christie, jamie has seen his nascent campaign if that's what it is -- i think we can assume that's what it is -- he's seen it sputtering, but he's in new hampshire. is he making inroads there? >> there's no question that chris christie has seen his political fortunes drop precipitously over the last but months and year, but i wouldn't discount a chris christie comeback completely. he's a formidable political talent. i think he's trying to use the john mccain strategy in new hampshire, focus his energies there, do town hall meetings which is what he became famous
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for and became a conservative superstar for, tried to be the tiller of hard truths on -- can teller of hard truths and just hope no more shoes drop in new jersey no more indictments no more economic downgrades in new jersey. and if he sees -- if you see walker and jeb bush falter, i think there is a shot for chris christie to rebound, but it's going to be a long slog, and he's going to spend a lot of time in new hampshire in order to rebuild his political fortune. jon: one of his messages, nina, caught a lot of political experts besurprise when he said, look, we're going of to have to reform social security means test it, raise the retirement age basically pay less money to certain people. that's not normally a very popular platform that gets you elected to the presidency. >> well, and it plays into the narrative that he's authentic and brave and tells us like it is. so that's clearly the road that he wants to travel. by the way, as you're looking at some of these men in the
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headlines let's not forget woman in the race, carly fiorina, who was just on fox a i few minutes ago. she, i interviewed her last week in front of a thousand people at csis, a foreign policy think tank here. she got tremendous response. and what she's doing -- and she's not so much on the radar screen. i realize she doesn't have the name recognition, but she's quietly going into these states like new hampshire, like iowa, and she's just back from south carolina, and she's building this network. and i think i think you're going to see her name start rising up in polls, you're going to see her have some real credibility coming down the road. jon: yeah. she had a really interesting conversation with martha, as you say, just a minute ago. >> yeah. jon: jamie, compare this with the kind of attention hillary clinton and her team are getting in iowa. the republicans on the one side, hillary clinton on the other. how do the two stack up? >> well, it's a different die page in, just the way you even -- dynamic, just the way
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you framed it shows that. the republicans on one side, a million different candidates or potentially running for the 2016 nomination, and not the democrats on the other side, but hillary clinton on the other side. she right now is not if not necessarily a clear field, you still have martin o'malley and bernie sanders and jim webb and a i few others considering running, but she is the overwhelming front runner so all attention is on her while on the republican side it's diffuse and still not clear who is the overall front runner. you might have a few candidates who are leading others, but there is so much potential for other candidates to rise even from the depths of where christist city -- chris christie is. on the one side you have a royal rumble and on the other one candidate who looks to be core nateed but wanted to give the impression that she's campaigning when at this moment she's not. jon: and again, so many republicans yet to get into this race. it is going to be fascinating to
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watch. nina's on the, jamie define steven, thanks. >> thanks, jon. >> thank you. jenna: some new signs the situation in iraq may be worse than the administration is letting on. mass evacuations in ramadi today as isis closes in on this key city just 70 miles west of baghdad. ramadi was the scene of some of the most intense combat during the iraq war. and as we mentioned, the it was a key city, key to the anbar awakening, a success story of america's war in iraq. leland vittert is live live from the white house with more on this. >> reporter: jenna, the story of rah ramadi goes right to the core of the administration's strategy for dealing with isis and the longer it goes on, the worse it looks. we have a map to show you just how strategically important ramadi is, a microcosm really of the u.s. strategy. iraqi troops on the ground fighting isis, u.s. air power above supporting them, but these mass evacuations of civilians
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show that clearly isis is gaining ground and certainly giving a lot of the civil p januaries there reason to run -- civilians there reason to run for their lives. the iraqi military is simply not able to hold on the way the u.s. had thought and hoped it would even despite the airstrikes that are pounding the city right now. thaw say it's a contested city, about 50/50 give or talk, and right now the strategy by the iraqis is to try to cut off isis' supply lines. you might remember they did the very same thing in tikrit a couple of months ago. the iraqis said oh, we're going to have this mopped up in three days. it took them then weeks of brutal street-to-street fighting. shows you just how formiserable fighters isis is. formidable fighters isis is. the prime minister of iraq meeting with the president earlier this week on capitol hill, sees the vice president today, and we keep hearing the same thing from hem, oh, things
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are going well, this is going to take time everyone is beginning to work together. but as things on the ground continue to deteriorate a couple of things are happening. number one, iran is getting a bigger foothold there inside of iraq as it tries to get inroads into the iraqi military. number two, obviously, this is pushing the battle plan way off. there was talk of mosul being retaken by the summer. that certainly would now be in question right now. and also as this is going on and dragging on, it's giving isis a long time to regroup and also to dig in a number of the cities as the iraqi forces are clearly losing any momentum they had. jenna? jenna: an important story for us to watch leland. thank you. jon: we are waiting for the florida postal worker who landed a gyrocopter on the grounds of the u.s. capitol to appear in court. 61-year-old doug hughes flew the single-person craft through some of the most restricted air space
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in the world. the pilot wanted to protest the amount of money in politics. peter a doocy is following that story live from washington. peter? >> reporter: jon, across the street from our bureau yesterday the capitol police and the secret service say they were caught flat footed by this flying protester and norad says his light aircraft never pond up on their screens -- popped up on their screens telling us that low and slow aircrafts are tough to catch. it started at an airfield 80 miles away in gettysburg, pa, and ended with quite a commotion on the west front of the u.s. capitol. but down in florida where this pilot is from the plot, not much of a secret. in fact, the secret service apparently visited the 61-year-old daredevil mailman more than a year ago and the local paper where he lives the tennessee times had so much -- tampa bay times, had so much advance notice that a reporter was able to make the trip for the big geocopter touchdown.
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and that reporter says many other agencies had a heads up as well. >> he sent an e-mail blast to all media outlets to barackobama.com to the secret service explaining his plan pointing to his web site and live stream video. so, you know, we were watching it from the starbucks up the road. everybody had access to it. >> reporter: lawmakers and staffers on the the hill say they never got a text or e-mail alert about danger outside the way they do frequently about suspicious packages. earlier this afternoon in a federal courtroom, the government is going to seek charges under the broad title 49 of the u.s. code. hughes was carrying a properly postmarked letter for each of the 535 mens of congress with instructions about how to fix the campaign finance system. and i spoke to one member of congress this morning who confirmed his letter still
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hasn't been delivered. since those letters are now likely ed they probably would have been delivered faster if doug hughes just put them in the mailbox. jon: even from florida. peter doocy, what a story. thanks, peter. jenna: we'll be talking more about that and security surrounding the white house and capitol hill n. the meantime, russian president vladimir putin holding an annual call-in show. why he says sanctions won't work against his country and what else he had to say. also a truck dangles from a major overpass, how it got there and its effect on morning traffic. and in the light of the beep of start con -- breach of security on capitol hill, go to foxnews.com/happeningnow to join the conversation.
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have captured not only a major airport, but also an oil terminal in southern yemen. the oil terminal, obviously, will afford them oil money that they'll be able to spend on other terrorist operations, assuming they can hold on to it. remember the president has pronounced yemen a success in terms of his administration's counterterrorism expertise. also said that core al-qaeda was on the run, but al-qaeda not on the run in yemen. they have captured a port an airport as well as an oil terminal. we'll keep you updated. jenna: breaking news on that. james carafano senior fellow at the heritage foundation, analyst as well. james, we're going to talk about russia in just a moment, but let me just ask you quickly this is just breaking from the associated press and our information is very limited. we do know yemen is in chaos we do know according to the associated press that official are saying this terrorist group has captured a major port in an
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oil terminal. what does that mean? what is the significance of that move by al-qaeda considering the chaos that's already taken place in that country? >> it's not surprising. the houthi rebels had enough power to overthrow the government and destabilize the country, but they don't have enough par to take over the country -- power to take oh the country. al-qaeda has long had a presence there. bin laden wanted it to be an operational base in caserthey were pushed out of pakistan. they are rooted in the domestic insurgency as well. so not surprising that they would take the opportunity of the country spinning further out of control to kind of take their peace of the pie. jenna: we're going to wait for a little bit more information on that. it is interesting to note just yesterday we had a report that according to al-qaeda that they are quote-unquote, their spiritual leader had been killed in an airstrike/drone strike, and there were fingers being pointed at the united states but catherine herridge mentioned
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to us we didn't know whether or not that was true or whether or not that was a signal of sorts within the terrorist group about what was actually transpiring there. leave that for a second, let me ask you about russia james. the russian president vladmy muten, disturb vladimir putin has this annual televised call-in show, and he answers questions on the russian economy, the crisis in ukraine. he talked about the big news of the week which was the sale of these long range missile defense systems to iran. but when it came to the united states specifically, he really talked about the need to compromise and that no one's an enemy the united states isn't an enemy, we just need to work together. what to you make of his comments about the west? >> i think what both the iranian regime and the russian regime believe they've seen from their treatment of the white house, the white house has really condoned their behavior. and that united states has accepted an aggressive rain grab foreign policy -- iranian
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foreign policy, and the russian policy is kind of the status quo and the new norm. i think both putin and the regime in tehran are happy with that and they're saying, okay, let's go with the status quo and win by not fighting. so yeah, it would make sense for putin to do that. get off the sanctions but hold -- keep the crimea, keep destabilizing ukraine, sure. jenna: right. basically, he's saying he's going to keep the current track. at the same time that he did this call-in show, there was an interview with one of his top generals, and an important military general said this, essentially, he accused the united states of trying to bring the i ukraine into quote-unquote our orbit. he says we think we've won the cold war and our nato moves are not defensive they're offensive. they're aggressive against russia. >> right. jenna: what do you think of that perception in russia and the propaganda that it represents as well? >> right. so this is one of the fundamental elements in addition to using force to destabilize
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these cups, and it's not just white propaganda, saying these things in public. it's funding fascist groups in western europe so russia can say it's pushing back against western fascism, it's environmental groups protesting against energy projects which compete with russian energy projects. this is classic old soviet-style kgb activity. there was just a hearing on this on the hill recently and the russians are doing this full bore and we have to push back. latvia just stood up a center of excellence of innovation warfare for nato because we've got to take that part of the war just as seriously as what russia's doing on the ground to destabilize countries. jenna: in a recent article you wrote that the best deterrent to vladimir putin is more of a military presence in western europe. do you still believe that considering that this is seen as aggressive by the united states? they're innocent bystanders to this aggression? >> yeah. that's just pure propaganda.
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our goal ought to make and the next president ought to say how can we make russia irrelevant to us. if western europe is secure, russia really is irrelevant to us. so if we flood the market with energy, with crude oil and natural gas exports that marginalizes russia. if we put a stronger u.s. military presence there, that sends a message that we take our article v commitment seriously, the russians aren't going to start world war iii. if we build missile defenses, the russians aren't going to do anything about that. if we delegitimize them from western europe, they'll just beer relevant, then we can get on with the rest of our lives. jenna: that sounds good to me. [laughter] before we go on with rest of our lives, what would you ask, james? it's a pretty interesting, you know, propaganda as it is, it's pretty interesting that the leader of russia takes call-in questions. what would you ask vladimir if you had the opportunity? >> look, the guy's a kgb thug. look, i have no interest in
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talking to him. and what's really pathetic is not so much this russian propaganda but that you actually see groups in america, isolationists groups, left-wing progressive groups who pick up the russian propaganda and then kick it back as their own. oliver stone's statements for making a film about the death of jfk where he literally took the soviet propaganda line, and he said, oh, my god, this is true. so i think we have to be careful here in the west when we start parroting these messages back. it is not america's findest hour when people's idea of fresh hour is to parrot one of really the most pathetic dictators in the world today. jenna: something to think about. jake, always nice to have you on -- james, always nice to have you on the program. jon: a cardiologist arrested accused of plotting to murder a fellow doctor. what police found in his home. and tourists in washington see a sight they never expected when a gyrocopter lands right in
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front of the u.s. capitol. a former secret service agent will tell us how on earth this could happen in some of the most restricted air space in the country.
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jon: a fox news alert, and a nice picture out of the white house. president obama and vice president biden welcoming some of the wounded warrior project's soldier ride to the white house. they have pedaled there the eighth annual soldier ride. wounded service members and veterans ride those specially-adapted cycles to help them overcome physical or emotional wounds. the particular group has made it all the way to the white house they are being greeted by the president and vice president. we'll keep an eye on the ceremonies. jenna: a postal worker accused of landing a small gyrocopter in
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front of the capitol is due in federal court shortly. the craft landed in front of a stunned crowd on the national mall. the pilot wanted to make a point about money in politicses and his flight was a protest of sorts, but it's also raising serious questions about security in the air space over the capitol and over the white house which is supposed to be severely restricted. >> this is not good people. >> just violate so much air space, it's not even moneyny. the fact that -- jenna: this is not good, people. probably not. let's are bring in a former secret service agent for presidents george w. bush and president obama now an international security consultant. dan, it's great to have you back on the program. how does something like this happen? >> yeah, it's a good question, jenna, and we have two really important issues we need to break down here. first, on the detection front when was this detected, if it was defected at all this airborne gyrocopter vehicle? if it wasn't detected, we have a
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catastrophic security failure. secondly, this is a more answerable question on the use of force i've seen a number of people ask why wasn't it shot out of the sky, i don't think this was a case where that was necessary. this was a low and slow flying vehicle that didn't present at the time, at least in my opinion, any clear evidence of a threat to life or limb. jenna: but there was still a question about what was on that craft, we're seeing the pilot being arrested and led away. moments after this you had the bomb squad come out and check the plane. apparently not knowing if there was something more serious or sinister happening. >> right. and that's a good question. perfectly good line of inquiry. the problem with that is even if you were to shoot it out of the sky and it was loaded with some plastic explosive, you have to remember that ordnance, that projectile used to shoot it out of the sky has to go somewhere. also if you cause an airborne explosion at 200 300 feet above
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the ground, you could actually be causing more problems rather than by just letting him land. jenna: sure. what defenses do we have in place? what can you tell us about at least that is protecting our lawmakers and also the president? >> well it's a pretty vibrant network in what we call, you know, the flight-restricted zone. more designed for, say, a 777 coming in post-9/11 but there are a number of mechanisms they can use to take these things down without disclosing the details. even on low and slow vehicles, there are mechanisms. but, and this is the key point, was this even detected and when? if you don't it's there, you can have the greatest security mechanisms this the world but you're never going to be able to use it. jenna: it's a really good point. we're seeing the story in the context of something we've seen in the past, something more recent, for example, a small drone landing on the white house lawn. but then you can look back several years as well to 1994 when a small plane crashed on the white house lawn trying to
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crash into the white house. i'm just going to read you a line, two lines from "the new york times" the day after. this is what "the new york times" said. shortly before two a.m. today a small red and white plane flew low over 17th street in the heart of the capitol downtown. banked left in a u-turn near the washington monument and headed straight towards the president's bedroom and the white house. no one tried to stop it. >> right. jenna: and that's eerie because no one tried to sop this small craft -- stop this small craft either dan. what do we need to do? what do we need to improve? >> i'll tell you jenna, this is a vexing problem, and i wish there was an easy answer. reagan airport national as we know, is right in the white house's backyard. you get an errant pilot who makes one hard left turn when i say you have seconds to make a decision, i mean it. you know i wish there were an easy answer but there isn't. there are a number of ways to take that thing down but again the time that's the critical issue. you really don't have a lot of
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time. reagan literally, is right in the backyard of the white house. jenna: again, the story's not even 24 hours old yet but you leave us to focus on detection and some more questions we have to ask. dan always great to have you on the program, thank you so much. >> thanks jenna. jon: a jump at the pump. what is the driving force behind the higher gas prices we're seeing? a live report on that. and after months a jury is finally seated in the colorado movie massacre case. what we are learning about the men and women who will decide the fought of james holmes. and a heartbreaking 911 called in the smoothing death of an australian alt at least in -- athlete in oklahoma. our legal panel weighs in. >> he was standing, and he fell over, and as i came back he just fell over in the ditch. >> is he talking to you right now? >> no, he's just -- that's all he's doing, making a noise. tell them to hurry!
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jenna: well, right now oil prices taking a bit of a breather. yesterday they hit the highest price all year, and that's not saying a lot because really we've seen really low oil prices for most of 2015. but that little tick up in oil prices does impact gas prices and the national average for a gallon of regular is $2.40. with more on this, lauren simonetti from the fox business network joins us. >> we get nest when we see a jump at the pump.
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be you're filling up today, jenna, you're hikely spending a bit more than -- likely spending more than yesterday. minneapolis, chicago philadelphia, they are seeing a huge spike overnight. i'm going to give you two reasons, the first is the price of oil through yesterday -- so not today -- the price of oil had been up five days in a row. it hit $56 a barrel, that is the most expensive of the entire year. the government said we still have plenty of oil supply here in the u.s. thanks to the shale boom but last week was the lowest in 2015, and some traders got worried. the second reason is the weather. it is getting warmer outside which means more of us hit the road, that boosts demand. so the question is should you be worried that gas prices will return to where they used to be last year and the year before? the answer is probably not. not only is production strong in the u.s., but it's strong overseas as well. opec has not cut back not even by a drop. despite the fact that it's pumping into one of the worst bear markets in years.
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some people actually say that opec is trying to drive newer american shale companies out of business by keeping oil prices so low. that means they can't compete. jenna: a story we're going to continue to watch. lauren, thank you very much. >> thank you. jenna: don't miss lauren on our sister network, and if you don't know where to find fox business in your area, log on to foxbusiness.com/channelfinder. jon: new details about the jury selected this the murder trial of accused colorado shooter james holmes. the group is made up of 12 jurors and 12 alternates, 19 women, 5 men. holmes, as you probably know, is charged with murdering 12 people, wounding dozens more in july 2012. he faces the death penalty in colorado if he's convicted. wendy patrick is a trial attorney and a veteran prosecutor, brian claypool is a criminal defense attorney. before we get to these jurors brian, you say that the prosecution has a tough job ahead.
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why? >> oh, absolutely jon. believe it or not four states don't even have insanity laws and the insanity law in colorado is very relaxed. it puts the burden of proof on the prosecutor, not on the defense, on the prosecution to prove that holmes was legally sane at the time of the shooting. not just that, but there are two ways in which holmes can be deemed insane. one is if his mind was so diseased and defective that he didn't know right from wrong jon. the other way, which i think the defense has a shot at here is if holmes' mind -- he had a mental illness, but he wasn't able to carry out or form the culpable intent. so he really wasn't able to to carry out the intent of the shooting. and that's an easier burden for the defense to prove. so they do have a daunting task here. jon: you have been involved wendy, in some cases in which people pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. that is the holmes plea here.
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does he stand a chance? >> i think it's a great case for the prosecution. i mean, this is a guy who planned this over a series of months, ordered weapons, ordered ammunition culminated a strategy to get into that movie theater to carry out this plan, and mental illness does not equal insanity. that is really the bottom line here. if they can find, the jurors can find he suffers from some kind of mental illness but did he know right from wrong at the time he committed this massacresome that's the question that makes him either sane or insane. and all of the evidence they're going to have shows that he knee what he was doing, and he knew right from wrong. jon: fascinating. a jury pool -- we don't know their names obviously brian -- but a woman who's a lawyer actually left on this panel, another middle-aged white female who has a drug-addicted son, a white female physicist with degrees in mathematics and
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psychology can. this is an astounding jury pool. >> well, it is jon. i would be, i would be fearful of the lawyeren on the panel -- lawyer on the panel because a lawyer can take over in the jury deliberation room. jon jon maybe not against a woman who has degrees in mathematics and psychology. >> well yeah. she might she might be nitpicking every piece of evidence in the case. that deliberation might take longer than the aaron hernandez deliberation with her on the panel. my concern was that the prosecution was allegedly dismissing or using their preemptories in colorado to dismiss prospective hispanic jurors. if i'm holmes' lawyer, i want -- i'm happy though, with the women. you want women. they're generally more.com passionate sorry, jon than you and i would be. [laughter] and i also would have wanted minorities on the panel and they didn't get a lot of minorities on the panel. i think all in all it's a pretty fair mix for both sides.
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jon: let's turn our attention to another story we've covered over the years. testimony's continuing in the murder trial of an oklahoma teenager accused of shooting an australian athlete in the back while he was out jogging. chris lane's family cried as they heard the 911 call describing the last moments of his life. >> is he talking to you right now? >> no, he's just that's all he's doing making a noise. >> is he breathing? is he conscious? is he talking to you? >> he's not conscious. is he still breathing? >> barely. >> bauerly. jon: how do you handle this case? khan city luna is 17 years old, on trial for murder. his defense team says he didn't really mean to kill the guy, he just was having some fun with a gun. is that going to work? >> i don't think so. this sounds like a thrill kill, and the defense has made it not a who dun it, but a what is it. a gun is a lethal weapon, not a
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toy. so fact that a gun was used and his client -- luna shot this guy, really shows that was his intent. you remember, intelligent can be formed in -- intent can be formed in an instant. doesn't have to be preplanned. that seems to be what the facts show here. jon: one of his cohorts that night has already pleaded guilty to second-degree murder, brian. can that be used against chancy in his trial? >> no, it can't be used against him in the trial, but i i think what you argue for the 17-year-old here is his age. he is 17 years old. he's still technically a juvenile under the law. and kids will be kids, he's engaging in horseplay. i'm not condoning the horseplay but i think this is a tough one for the jury, jon, because they've got to weigh do i put away a 17-year-old kid for the rest of his life, not giving him a chance to rehabilitate himself -- jon: he pointed a gun at another human being and pulled the trigger for fun, bruin?
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brian? >> well, look, you've got to come up with a defense. i think the best defense you can make jon is he's 17, he's not mentally mature and, quite frankly, i would have argued some kind of diminished capacity defense for this kid, that he has some kind of mental impairment so you can dilute or defeat that intent and enter into a plea bargain. his lawyers might have fumbled ball on this one. jon: his lawyers are going to earn their money, that's for sure. brian, wendy, thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. jenna: well, imagine some of your most personal information in the hands of hackers, why they find your health care data so anything else you have and what you can do about it.
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jon: let's check out what's a ahead on "outnumbered" at the top of the hour. >> i thought you were going to say let's get ready to rumble. >> that too. >> yeah. are the media covering hillary clinton more like a celebrity than a candidate?
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what ever happened to asking the tough questions? >> miss the teacher whose -- plus, the teacher whose third graders sent get well cards to that convicted cop killer, she's blaming her students, and she's getting support from the left. should she be fired? >> and remember those dea agents going to sex parties? their boss says she can't fire them. >> it's crazy. >> seriously. >> all that plus our #oneluckyguy who's so fascinating, the government spies on his parents. >> let's get ready to rumble ooh! laugh- >> i love it. jenna: new information on a troubling report on the growing problem of medical id theft. hackers are going after your id records. according to one report, the health industry is the number one focus of hackers, more than any other sector. let's bring in morgan wright cybersecurity analyst. this is really surprising when you think okay, shopping online, we've heard about the
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big breaches at target, for example. why are medical records the focus of hackers? >> because jenna, they are the goose -- her the golden eggs that the goose has laid whereas your -- and you know what? the market drives this. when you go onto these black market sites to buy records credit card records sell for 50 cent toss a dollar medical records sell for $10-$50 because it has your name, your date of birth, physical scripters, even credit card data. so these have become the one place where the most information about you is usually collected. you don't get date of birth on your credit card information but you get all of that in your health record. jenna: you know it's not even just about the hacking going into a system and -- >> right. jenna: -- infiltrating it and getting your information. apparently, medical professionals are arying around our -- carrying around our data in little thumb drives, and people are able to steal that morgan. what can consumers do? we're not only vulnerable online, but we have people
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carrying around our information and we don't even know they're doing that. >> look, albert einstein said there's only two things that are infinite, the universe and stupidity, and i'm not sure about the universe. when people are doing stupid things like this, and i do mean stupid. you're carrying around people's medical information on unencrypted thumb drives, unfortunately for consumers, they can't do anything until after the fact which is usually sue. there's some things they can do proactively which is have good identity theft have good monitoring restoration, but unfortunately because they have to give that information to get services, there's very little they can do until after the fact. but what they can do, and you'll see it, there'll be lawsuits probably legislation that's what happens after the fact. that's what consumers do when they're wrong, but preventing it beforehand becomes tough. jenna: we were talking to an identity theft expert a few months ago who reminded us we really don't have to give our social security number to our doctor, which i thought was interesting. >> right. jenna: what about paying for services that are supposed to be
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watching your identity, morgan? do you think that's -- is that valuable to the consumer? >> it is. and it depends on what you do. look, i mean i've got identity insurance through legal shield because it has restoration. it's not just monitoring, because you have to monitor more than just your credit cards. it's your medical identity theft, your bank accounts, your passport, all of this different stuff. unfortunately, you know look, one of the things before i always come on air, i always want to do some research. a couple of days ago a report health care attacks were up 25%, you're saying targeted more than any other industry. that's what forms the basis for a lot of this identity theft because the more breaches there are, it only means right now one out of every two seconds somebody becomes the victim of identity theft. that means this year one out of every 18 people in the u.s. will be a victim.
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jenna: wow, and, you know, when it come toss the medical records, not only birth date cans, social security numbers but also just the content of it, morgan. >> yes. jenna: is that valuable to hackers? >> absolutely. jenna: and how so? >> because a lot of times people want to get services so they want to get medical services so the more they know about you, one lady that i know when her husband died unexpectedly they found out his identity was used ten times to go to local area hospitals to receive services and he had to have more information than just the name and the date of birth. this creates identity theft because it takes longer to investigate, it's harder to detect, and those services cost you far more than a $200 pair of shoes. jenna: it always mes me nervous to talk to you, morgan. [laughter] the top to you cans are really unnerving and it's important we just kind of raise awareness, if you will that this is actually happening. great to have you morgan, thank you. >> you bet jenna. jon: yeah, scary stuff. individual rights or public health? that's the debate as lawmakers
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in one state push a plan to force parents to vaccinate their kids if they want them to go to public schools.
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jenna: right now traffic getting back to normal in boston after a crash left a truck dangling from an overpass. it crashed i through a barrier earlier this morning and to make matters worse, was hanging over railroad tracks below for about two hours so train service was also suspended in the area. crews used a crane, no word on the driver's condition or what exactly caused the crash. ♪ ♪ jon: an update now to a story we've covered a lot on "happening now," some california law lawmakers pushing a bill against vaccination. opponents say it violates
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parental rightings. chief correspondent jonathan hunt live from santa monica, california, with that. jonathan? >> reporter: jon, california's one of 19 states nationwide that allows parents to cite a personal belief exemption if they want their kids to go to a public school without being fully vaccinated, but some lawmakers in a lot of school districts across the state want that changed. it's obviously an emotional debate, frequently pits religious freedom against the rights of parents not to worry their kids might contract dangerous diseases while at school. here's the bill's sponsor, listen here. >> what about the rights of those families that bring their children to school without being at risk of potentially catching a serious disease? >> now anti-vaccine advocates argued at the senate health committee meeting their kids should not be forced out of the school system. listen here. >> you gave me a choice to
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abort, you should give me a choice to vaccinate. >> it's a violation of religious freedom and human rights. >> reporter: now the attempt to get this bill on the books taliban began in a sense that disneyland, remember that measles outbreak there back in december at the theme park? 40 people were infected. it spread further, 130 infected in total. pro-vaccine advocates blame that outbreak on the growing number of unadvantage vaccinated kids in california. that outbreak will be officially declared over if there are no cases before tomorrow. the debate about vaccines in schools likely to go on longer. jon: jonathan hunt, thank you. jenna: some new stories we're working on for the second hour of "happening now," a new study that links snoring and other sleep troubles to memory loss. plus with baseball season underway, we're looking back at a time when america's star athletes changed their uniforms and served their country in world war ii.
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>> i have a report in the second hour of "happening now." imagine our sports playing goes off to fight in the war. >> i can't wait to see it. >> this is "outnumbered." i am harris faulkner. andrea tantaros is here. and kirsten powers is here. and #oneluckyguy i have been waiting for chis fox news chief james rosen and he is "outnumbered." >> i have been watching the show since it debuted. i totally get the con am so excited to be the the "oneluckyg

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