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out the website. no crassitude. thanks for watching us tonight. breaking tonight almost a full year after america is dragged into a national debate over race and policing and the white house says the president will now make this a priority for his final months in office. good evening, welcome to "the kelly file" i'm megyn kelly. over the last ten months a handful of controversial and contested cases fuelled an argument that there is no justice in many of america's minority communities and now the president is talking about taking new action. the argument started with events in ferguson missouri where a white officer shot and killed a black teenager. that cop was cleared by the department of justice after a grand jury determined much of what the country held as truth
in ferguson was in fact a lie told by a friend of mr. brown. up next staten island where a grand jury including five african-americans refused to indict a white police officer in the death of eric garner. and now we have baltimore. six cops hit with charges ranging from assault to second degree murder. after freddie gray suffers injuries in a police van that led to his death. the d.a. calls the arrest illegal and says there was no reason for the police's action. just yesterday "the kelly file" gets hands on a memo showing the d.a.'s office ordered cops to crack down on suspected drug dealers in that very neighborhood. now we know she knew she was the one who sent them out there to round up guys like freddie gray. she had an angry community
rioted. police are worried it is not just their lives in the line of fire but also their freedom. >> this is the result that you get. ultimately it does a disservice to the law abiding citizens. it does a disservice to business owners and everybody except the criminal element. >> joining us tonight fox contributor contributor charles krauthammer. kevin, good to see you. here it is. president obama will sweep in and make this a priority in his last months in office to try to crack down on what he may view as police who are out of control. >> well i mean if you are looking for a comment from that one thing i can say is that if barack obama is cracking down on police he needs to crack down on
what is happening in these communities. we have had another cop resign. i'm not going to comment about whether or not he should or shouldn't have. i will tell you thugs lose their job. when cops are not protecting neighborhoods thugs have free rein. that is the type of environment that has been created. it is not so much as you pointed out earlier about cops losing lives, they are losing jobs afraid to do things. i think you find out that if obama is talking about a legacy and i know charles talked about that earlier, his legacy will be the most corrupt, most crime ridden administration probably in the modern era. >> he views this -- at least people in the administration view this -- as a problem with out of control racist cops and they are going to fix it. we have seen case after case where a white cop shoots and sometimes kills an unarmed black defendant. >> it's absolute nonsense.
every time something involves a black person you have people who are waiting, literally waiting for the phone call to say go stir up trouble. these things happen. bad cops bad policing bad doctors, bad lawyers it happens all over the country to people of all kinds of colors. you will not see asians rioting when it happens to them. everybody realizes mistakes can be made. we have a situation set by the president, established down the food chain with eric holder and probably now with loretta lynch that says it is free reign over the cops. the fact of the matter is for decades we have been dealing with problems in inner cities
they are obviously going to be -- always going to be some bad police overwhelmingly they are honorable and courageous. we have been honoring them. we know what happens. the crime rate is out of control in baltimore and it is particularly bad in the neighborhoods where people are poor, they have no defenses. the rich can defend themselves they get the body guards and
they have the houses that have all kinds of guards. they have the gated communities, the poor don't have that. and that's what we are seeing. this is undermining law and order. it is a fact and the people who suffer the most are the people who need protection. >> the department of justice has been using these cases over and over in at least two dozen cases as an excuse to go in and essentially take over law enforcement. it has happened repeatedly. they use a case that is destined to fall apart as an excuse to go in and before you know it first eric holder and now loretta lynch are not in charge but close to it of the way the local cops are supposed to do their job. >> i suspect this would be short-lived. i suspect this will be the work of his administration over the next 19 months. they will try to do this. i think the fact that we see undermining of authority, undermining of law and order and
a spike in crime will make a big reaction in public opinion, not going to happen overnight but when people look around and realize that the streets are not safe the way they were before they are going to say stop. we go back to the old system. policing should be local, feds should keep out of it. >> charles, good to see you. >> my pleasure. z1yu also tonight a left wing media outlet attacking our coverage of this caught on tape controversy from mckinny texas. next on what they are claiming and has a response. jeb bush is accused of wanting to publically shame america's unwed mothers. dana perino joins us on what jeb said and what it means for the gop front runner. james rosen and his take on a "the kelly file" investigation into why one american embassy decided to move 4th of july
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under intense emotional restrain on the day he pinned a girl to the ground. the lawyer for police corporal eric says he had been called to the scene of two suicides earlier that morning and lost control of his emotions in responding to the pool incident. some of the left wing press continue to use this incident to dishonestly push their agenda. case in point a writer at a far left website that often descends into ugly hackry. ÷ went up with a piece suggesting that yours truly on monday night spent half the program trying to justify the police in mckinney before leaping to defense by saying that the teen was no saint either. here is what actually happened.
we did two segments on mewckinney first on an eyewitness who defended the -- two of the three guests against the cops. i took mow position on the matter other than to acknowledge brutality of the actions and the decision making of the young woman that brought her into his focus. >> that is hard to watch. the real pushback on this one police officer taking down this 14-year-old girl african-american girl taking her down and putting a knee in her back in what is a shocking piece of video tape. what about the take down of the 14-year-old girl? you see her bending her limbs. the head of the naacp came out and said he treated her like cattle. the girl was no saint.
the cops told them to leave. i am not defending his actions. >> forgot to mention that last part or the fact that we under scored the horrific nature of what this officer did at least five times. several others went with the narrative. it is almost pointless to respond toñn these smears but this one struck me as an example of how drastically the press and the blogs distort comments to promote their own agendas. it is not just a left wing thing to be fair. too often it is done by the far left with glee and with total impugnity. joining me now with more host of fox news' media buzz. this is punching down. they describe themselves as abo tabloid. i accept that. over and over we see this done
where they take something, they distort it and repeated by left wing blogs and people accept it as fact. >> it gets into the echo chamber. shocking, brutal. that didn't sound like somebody rushing to the officer's p u @r(t&háhp &hc% the worst part of it is leaving out the comment you made seconds after you said the girl wasn't a saint because she didn't listen to the officer and said i am not defending his actions. this selective quotation is ago classic case of liberal writer with agenda who often rails against fox trying to discredit the interviewer because he didn't like what the guest said the guy you talked to who was an eyewitness. >> i pressed sean on every issue. he took issue for probing who said racist things to whom. my guest made an assertion that the people climbing over the fence were yelling racist things
at the residents. i challenged him saying what we heard is it was the opposite way around. my point is there is$x%k(y little desire on the part of the folks to get to truth. there is only a desire to get to agenda. and yet this seems to be an audience for that, a viewership, a readership for blogs and podcasts, what have you. >> it is what politicians call playing to the base. there is a liberal readership. i went back to the video tape and looked at it in slow motion like you do in sports. you were hardly a lawyer leading the witness. you asked this guy about every allegation made whether or not it was racist whether it was excessive force or residents used racial taunts against some of the black kids. you can't control what he says. he has different viewsltherefore somehow you are responsible
for -- but then as you say in the next segment you made clear your distaste and disgust at seeing the video. >> there is the rub is that we had the nerve to put somebody on who did defend the officer. that is what some -- i'm not talking about left wing. i'm talking about far left. that is what they cannot stand. the reason fox news channel was born is because so many television channels are telling only >í one side. there was a vision a different kind of vision where we have a news station that tells both sides. we the nerve to put a guy on who defended the cop and then two guys on and two guys who didn't defend and that is too much. if you do anything in defense of a cop in this situation you be a bigot. you must hate young women. >> we are all fair game for criticism who appear on television. the criticism should be based on
the facts and not some selective distortion. there is a point about media polarization now that we live in the age of cell phone videos where we see what happens in many confrontations with police it opens up a situation, cable news is a participant. media are a major participant where every local and this was a pool party and fortunately nobody was seriously hurt getsx blown up into national mellow drama. another headline says america's war on black girls based on the actions of one hot headed cop. >> and there was one who went back and looked he wrote something about you one time. this is what he attributed the çr duggar scandal reveals why we need more bigoted conservatives. attributed it to something you said on the show. >> i think i have been very fair
on my comments about the duggar family. that was another example where whether you were left or right or whether you had sympathy or not for a christian family that very much influenced the kind of commentary you did, sometimes honest, sometimes not so much. >> that's exactly right. thanks for being here. while all this attention has been focused on officer in the case what about the woman accused of starting the entire melee? the video of what she did, you are going to want to see this and the calls now for her not only to be criminally charged but fired from her job right after this break. plus as the search expands and intensifies for convicted murders one of america's most famous bounty hunters is here live and how he would get the fugitives back behind bars. ♪ it's a calling. a love affair.
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developing tonight new demands that police file criminal charges against the woman who allegedly prompted the melee at the mckinney, texas pool party. she is the blond woman -- not the blond woman here. she is the blond woman wearing the black bathing suit on the right side of the screen. [ bleep ] they want her charged and some want her fired from her job. kimberly guilfoyle, the co host of the five and author of "making the case" does not include whacking the hell out of teenagers in a pool melee but that is a snippet. what are we to make of calls for her to be fired.
>> we are seeing a few snippets. we don't know the facts and circumstances of what preceded this. right away this is rushed to make sure she is terminated to hold her employer liable. we don't know what preceded this incident. why was she there? what happened before that? we see one shot of it. as a prosecutor we would say just seeing this part of it show me what happened before. what is the lead up to this? >> they want her gone. not only do they want her behind bars but want her employer to immediately fire her. she has been placed on administrative leave. she lost her paycheck for the time being. >> that is what is happening. they spiral the support to make sure to find somebody to take down. we want you to be held responsible. we want you to be filed charges against and held responsible in every way. we want your employer held
liable. >> yet the police and d.a. have not told us if this] woman has done anything wrong. meantime calls for the cop whose lawyer came up today and tried to explain why he acted like such a hot head on that tape. watch. >> [ bleep ]. >> his efforts to gather information was hampered by some teenagers who were instructing others to defy police instructions. with all that had happened that day he allowed his emotions to get the better of him. >> they came up today, this group and said we are not going to stop or silence until he is charged for what he did in a racially motivated action. >> what charges are they going to bring against him? assault? i don't think they stop because they are not satisfied with the
kind of blood loss that they have. he already resigned. he stepped down. they tried to explain as to why he was amped up and had this adrenaline. there is also in the video two men coming in from the side not to excuse his overreaction. it is to explain it and give context to it. when did it becwgaih a crime to give context to a situation? to create understanding and to get all of the facts laid out? it's never enough it seems these days. >> he showed up to pool side an african-american general killed himself and he was there comforting victims. another young woman attempted suicide. he was there talking her down and then this happened. >> first on scene trying to create order obviously mishandled the situation. >> he is going to have to talk himself if he wants a pass. great to see you.
>> congrats on the book "making the case." jeb bush is accused of wanting to publically shame america's unwed mothers. dana perino joins us on what jeb said and what it means for his campaign. rchlths and rosen is here with a story behind one american embassy's decision to move its 4th of july celebration in order to make room for ramadan.
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from the world's headquarters of fox news it's "the kelly file" with megyn kelly. >> questions for the state department after reports surface that the u.s. embassy in jakarta moved its 4th of july celebration to another date out of respect for ramadan. james rosen is here with more. >> good evening. conservatives online are up in
arms'0@!ñ over this with pamela gellar asking why islamic supremeicism succeeds july 4th. it was started when it was reported by the jakarta post that the u.s. embassy in indonesia held the annual 4th of july celebration on june 4th. the paper quoted u.s. ambassador as saying this was done out of respect for the muslim holy month of ramadan. the state department explained these events are not designed to#e help americans overseas celebrate but rather a means of outreach and education for the native population. >> in other cases when you take into account the observation of ramadan in many muslim countries when people are fasting they may not be able to attend an event such as this that we adjust in
order to effectively carry out our role which is to represent the united states to all countries where we are assigned. >> last year july 4th events were held on june 4th at the u.s. embassies in morocco and at our embassy in cairo. our embassy has held in march because the heat in saudi arabia in july is not for the squeamish. no one could recall foreign embassies in washington bumping their days off!celebration in account of anything here. i say if those foreign embassies were as keenly attuned to our sensitivityies they would avoid their national celebrations on or around super bowl sunday the birth of the next kimye child and the anniversary of reese's
peanut butter cups because who would come? >> good points7all. great to see you as always. >> you, too. in other news 2016 contender jeb bush coming under fire for a passage from a book he wrote 20 years ago where he was talking about unwed mothers. first huffington post jeb bush 1995 unwed mothers should be shamed. and this afternoon the recipe for a better society, shame. joining me now former white house press secretary and cohost of the five dana perino. so i look back to see if he said it and he does have a book in which he has a chapter called the restoration of shame. and he says one of the reasons more young women are giving birth out of wedlock is that there is no longer a stigma
attached to this behavior no reason to feel shame. parents and neighbors have become wyineffective. >> the left loves this. jeb bush is out of the country. he is doing a european tour before he announces his presidency next monday. >> i hope he is not planning on spending july 4th in jakarta. >> probably not. the left latched on to this because they want to try to find something. i think the democratic opposition groups might wantl to slow down because they have marco rubio's parking tickets. the book does exist before jeb bush became governor. he ran in '94 and didn't win and ran again. you go back to 1995 and the concerns about family values how many children were being born out of wedlock. that has continued to increase and everything where we talk about root causes of problems in america it does come down to the break down of the family and how
we can restore that. however, in 20 years later i think everyone can agree maybe the better way to say it is the toughest job in america is being a single mom. that is the kind of language he would probably use today. >> that's not going to work. somebody like me at a presidential debate will drill down on that. >> the response is that you are trying to shame unwed mothers who already have it tough enough and don't need jeb bush telling them and others that they need to be shamed. >> skpts rr i think if he gets that question in a debate i think he will have a good way to answer because they are saying look at the record when he is governor. the domestic violence went down 27%, increased penalties for domestic violence offenders. child support payments up 90% during his tenure as governor including:5 added a law toern garnish wages. education choice for low income
kids. most are in a situation where they have a single parent. >> those are things to improve family and help children. >> and what the left is going to do with candidates like jeb bush and mike huckabee and others who are big on conservativehñ values when it comes to social issues is going to say you are out of touch. remember binders full of women the comment mitt romney made. it got spun into this he has women in binders. so something like this is going to be used against him. so there is going to be the out of touch republicans. >> republicans have to factor that in. it won't be good enough to say three years ago hillary clinton was against gay marriage. that was three years ago. why isn't the left up in arms about that? >> she might have agreed on something. >> that was just three years ago. that is not necessarily going to work for republicans. if you look at the election now
you have to get to 270 electoral votes 46% already locked in for hillary and whoever the republican is going to be. so who is most important and those independent voters a lot will be women. he does have a challenge. i think on balance if he5r can communicate the record he!q.d íçnzw% had in particular on child support payments that specifically helps single unwed mothers or divorced mothers. maybe they got remarried. >> unwed for whatever reason. new developments on how two convicted murders escaped from a new york prison. federal marshals here and dog the bounty hunter next. hey pal? you ready? can you pick me up at 6:30? ah... (boy) i'm here! i'm here! (cop) too late. i was gone for five minutes! ugh! move it. you're killing me.
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they used power tools to break through prison walls, cut into a steam pipe and crawl through a man hole outside the prison. sources tell fox news joyce mitchell gave them the power tools to break out and was planning to be the get away driver before she got cold feet. her family believes if she did help she did it because she was threatened. there was a theory she may have helped because she thought there was something more betweenbs she and matt. everyone from detectives say when he cleaned is handsome and charming and a psycho path who chopped up his former boss. >> if you wanted to take a picture of the devil, that's the face that you would see. and yes i have seen him kill.
>> and matt's family is also quote freaked out by him. >> thank you. joining me now with more former commander of the u.s. marshall's new york new jersey task force. where do we think this vermont tip came from? >> i'm not sure where the investigators are starting. it is still an intense man hunt even in the area they have been in in new york. it is also a fugitive investigation. as tips come in we are0 going to react to them. we are going to send leads to different states. apparently they see priority and it is full-court press. >> how about this joyce? why? >> apparently it's out there and in the press conference if she supported these two guys i have no idea why. i'm hoping she is cooperating and at least giving what went on behind the scenes to support and help these guys. >> how do you begin to cast the
net? how do you cast the net at this point a couple days after? >> the premiere agency in the government and huntingww fugitives on the ground all over the country and around the world. so as leads come in whether friends family somebody who needs to be surveilled a conversation needs to be had it is a phone call ciy9away. >> somebody is going to spot them and call in. >> they don't necessarily have to be in vermont. there are leads around the country. i know leads two three or four other states. they don't have to be there. so i want the audience and viewers to know that if they see them in florida don't discard anything because we are saying vermont. >> they are going to have to commit a crime because they need money. >> if what is coming out about ms. mitchell is true and she didn't pick them up they have to go to plan c at this point. they could be upset, wet, tired. god knows what they are doing.
>> even to change their appearances if they haven't already they need money to do that. thank you. here now with more is the bounty hunter. what would you do to try to fjét these guys? >> i would be doing probably exactly the same thing the cops are to wait until they make a mistake. everything has changed now because now the girlfriend has admitted that she was the accomplice. i thought that they had a very elaborate plan as soon as they got out of the man hole they put the sticky note and took off. now that she admitted it that means they are in the area because she was supposed to pick them up. the sightings might be them. their wholesé.éñ plan changed. now the luck is not on their side anymore. everything has changed. now they are on the streets. now they become victims of the
u.s. marshals and bounty hunters. now is when we can catch them. right now is when we can catch them. >> what are the odds they stick together as opposed to splitting up? >> because they were in prison together and because they got away together i think they stick together for a little while if nothing else because of luck. i didn't know -- i would like to see where they got the sticky note. i didn't know they had those in prison. i would like to see which pen he used to write have a nice day. it looks like he was waiting for her to show up and she didn't show up so they took off. bloodhounds now i can see why the cops have bloodhounds trying to get a trail. now is when the cards have turned against them. now is where we will be able to catch them. >> now is when the american people need to keep eyes open but steer clear. they could not be worse criminals. thanks for being here sir. >> thank you very much. up next, a federal appeals
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a federal appeals court upholding a tough new texas law that may close all but seven abortion clinics in the nation's second more popular state. critics say it threatens the constitutional right of women to have an abortion. rick perry is a champion of the law. did you sign this law? >> i did in 2013. >> this is when wendy davis wore the pink sneakers and said this will deny women in texas a right
to an abortion which has been recognized by the supreme court as an existing constitutional right. the right to privacy. and so on in their bodies. i assume you think the fifth circuit got it right. what do you say to those that this effectively eliminate abortion in the state of texas? >> it limits to 20 weeks. i think they're wrong about the making that statement. and those facilities there were three things in that bill. limiting it to 20 weeks. making sure the standards were up to ambulatory surgical clinic standards. and the physician had to have admitting privileges at that facility. >> let me jump in, critics say that's not necessary. the last two things are not necessary. as a result of that the 17 abortion clippics will go to seven. they say nearly a million women will by 150 miles from the nearest abortion provider. >> what i would say in response
is that the people of the state of texas, we discussed this at length rather lengthy debate. this is getting down to about women's health. the idea that you don't want a facility to have the same standards as a ambulatory surgical center, i think really goes counter to women's health. admitting privileges of a physician makes sense as well. this is really about the issue of women's health. and making sure that they do have if something does go wrong at one of the facilities i think you would agree that you want to have pretty high standards in place to take care of them. if something did in fact go wrong. >> obviously the critics say it hasn't been necessary, this is a back door way of limiting abortion. which prolifers say great, do it t. prochoicers say this is controversial. they'll take it up if they can to the u.s. supreme court. where do you stand on the issue of abortion in terms of exceptions for rape exceptions for incest obviously to save
the life of the mother? >> i'm prolife on all of those. and but i think, you know the real issue for me is this has been settled in the state of texas. and people may not agree across the board. obviously they don't. from my perspective we need to find things we can work together on to bring the country together. i think we all want to have an economic climate where people can have a job. we want to have a country where our borders are secure. a country we feel safe and secure. those are the big issues i think the bulk of the american people want to focus on. >> governor rick perry always great to have you. we appreciate it. >> thank you, i'm, so long. in addition to our gop primary debate on the evening of august 6th. fox news channel also has bill hemmer and martha maccallum hosting our forum later in the
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