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killers. investigators apparently finding dna of one of the two men after more than two weeks on the run as we say good morning on a monday. i'm bill hemmer live in america's newsroom *. martha: dna was reportedly found in a cabin in a town called cowlshead it's 30 miles west if you were walking from the prison to this spot. they are also looking in the area of a potential sighting near friendship, new york. >> we'll continue to search this area until all leads have been exhausted. as we have in other areas of the state, we'll search behind every rock tree and structure until we are confident that area is
secure. bill: rick, what's up with these two different locations? >> in owls head we see corrections officer local state and police setting up roadblocks and checking people's trunks. but also through the rural roads that wind through this mountainous stretch. we were here last night based on a tip from law enforcement involved in the search that there was a manhunt and we found a command post that had just been set up. we were the first camera there. as they began to search through the wood there there was a customs and border patrol helicopter flying overhead. we also followed a number of state police, got a winding dirtd road into the wood where they were going to check out more cab wins in those woods.
we learned from the press republican newspaper this may be based on a tip from a man who went to check on his hunting cabin. he said he saw a jug of water and jar of peanut buttner that cabin. yelled for whoever was inside to come out and he ran out the back door. according to my source, there was a dna match to evidence found in the cabin. so they are very certain these men were here possibly within the last 36 to 48 hours. that's why they are concentrating their resources so heavily in that area. they say the search in allegheny county was a bogus tip. >> reporter: there are a lot of people in this part of the
state that are ever nervous. we were driving through back road close to owls head. and we met a man walking down the street, a rural road, dressed head to toe in camouflage carrying a shotgun. he told me he was concerned about his property. concerned these men might be on his property and was carrying that shotgun to protect himself. he said he would give them a chance to give up, if they didn't he would fill them full of buckshot. martha: charleston, south carolina united by love in the faces of great tragedy. [♪]
so stirring, that whole ceremony yesterday. the historic a.m.e. church. >> for those of us here this morning, i want you to know because the doors of mother emanuel is open on this sunday. it send a message to every demon in hell and on earth. martha: obviously this week there will be the mourning as well. the funerals will take place for the 9 victims. thousands gathered to remember them with a solidarity march. mike tobin joins us live from charleston. the city continue to effort to stay together in the face of all
of this. >> it does, martha. in this attempt to divide the community we have a powerful image of unity. it was at the iconic ravenol bridge. you can see they got more than enough people to form a single file chain across that bridge. of course, it comes on the * same day the doors to the mother he menwell church were reopened. what we got was a bold defines of the attempt to divide. a faithful message of forgiveness. >> he expected us to do something strange and to break out in a riot. well they just don't know us. >> reporter: the first of the
burials of the victims is scengd for thursday. the owner of the carolina panthers donated $10,000 to each of the families slain at this church and $10,000 to the church itself. he he our hearts are one with those who grieve. martha: it's also spilled over the effects into the political realm as well. right, mike. there is a white supremacist organization and it's reported roof was inspire bid that organization. the person who head it up, he gave $8,500 to the senator cruz campaign. the campaign respond and said they will return that money as early as tonight. they say racism has no place in society and not a part of the
campaign. by more on the politic of this. byron york. a number of candidate are getting this question about the confederate flag. here are somewhat different and broad ranging answers. >> everyone i baited with this question as if somehow this has anything whatsoever to do with running for president. and my position i it most certainly does not. >> you can put up confederate flags or get rid of the confederate flags. it won't make a difference. what make a continues is do we change people's hearts and mind. >> my opinion is we should let the people of south carolina go through the process of making this decision. bill: you have got a number of issues in including state's right. >> i think what you see with
most of the republican candidate, they will do what senator santorum is doing. he will use the answer that worked for jeb bush in the elect in south carolina. a compromise was reached. the flag was taken off the dome. and i think you will see republicans say let's let the people of south carolina decide this. bill: i think people don't realize it's at a war memorial. that's where they went 15 years ago. yeb bush said we acted moving the flag from the state ground to a museum where it belonged. where does that go?
>> he's inching up to thed in of advocating removing the -- inching up to the idea of advocating moving the flag from the ground all together which is what mitt romney said over the weekend. tim scott from south carolina, very conservative. he said he's going to take a strong position on this but he will wait until funerals are over. i think when scott comes out and takes a strong position you will see republicans align themselves with senator scott regardless of what he decide to do. bill: tim scott his home district is charleston which is where he represented in the house before he was elected overwhelmingly to the senate. the junior senator from south
carolina. martha: the iranian nuclear agreement deadline is looming the end of this month. lawmakers shouting death to america as they vote to ban access to those involved in the nuclear program. >> will a candidate's name matter when you vote whether it's bush or clinton? martha: top superstar taylor swift send a love message about royalties. [♪]
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martha: a former white house executive chef was found dead in new mexico. he had been missing for a week when his body was discovered off a hiking trail. he worked in the white house for 11 years under presidents clinton and george w. bush. his girlfriend reported him missing. bill: iran's parliament league wrench in major negotiations. lawmakers voting to ban
inspectors from any potential site. quiet man is with me right now. good morning to you. i guess we have to agree to it, is that to turn around and leave now? >> the more i watch this administration negotiating with iran the more i'm reminded of the people who show up again and again. they can negotiate under this piece of legislation that has still not been passed and signed into law. but they can designate whatever they want as a military site. so they will keep the inspectors out of wherever they want. bill: here is what it says.
within the framework of the safeguard agreement the iaea is allowed to carry out cone vengsal inspections of nuclear sites. they want immediate sanctions relief once they sign a deal. >> the president is addicted to this negotiation. and the iranians know it. they keep putting their conditions on the table. we keep losing a slice of this and a slice of that. the deadline is a week away. they will move the deadline i'm sure and they will continue this process. i don't know why the president doesn't understand even if he signs the deal on paper the iranians will never stick to it. bill: when the lawmakers in iran are chanting "death to america," and they take this vote on the
same day what should the response be oh you hear something -- be when you hear something like this? >> the iranians won't accept a beth and final offer and then we'll end the charade. bill: they believe iran is the key to this entire region. >> they should talk to our allies the saudis and the israelis to find out what the region need. for this president to be cutting a deal with the iranians to define how the region will look the next generation is ridiculous. bill: does it happen? >> i think this administration is going through a self-induced coma. they will seen it and try to spin it as a great success and legacy for this president. but it won't be.
bill: is that a good thing? >> it may be good for him to think that but it's terrible for this country. martha: a travel nightmare for runs of airline passengers enduring a 30-hour delay. it was caused by one person on the plane who was not popular. bill: the search for two escaped murderers. we'll talk to a former homicide detective. folks in that region start to take their own precautions too. >> we have been in the country and we think we should be ready for anything like this. we didn't think we would be 50 cop cars you have and down the street but we are close connected down here. we all call each other.
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bill: passengers on an american airlines flight arriving 30 hours late. their flight out of rome diverted to belfast ireland because of an unruly passenger. passengers slept on cots at the airport. hotels were booked. united says we are giving you a refund. enjoy your summer break. an unruly passenger. they have to take the booze away from those guys. then they behave. martha: the police are vowing to search behind every rock and tree for the killers who escaped upstate new york in that prison. the authorities save the fugitives are masters of manipulation. so who is going to win?
let's bring in rod wheeler a fox news contributor and former detective. police can't believe these guys are still out here. the latest is there is a report of dna evidence found in a cabin in owls head, new york. >> it's been 17 days these two men have been on the lam. now it does prove those two individuals were there at some point at that cabin. what it doesn't prove is how long ago they were at that cabin. dna can hang around and we can get off certain items over a 2-3-week period. martha: why the reports it was between 24-36 hours. >> i don't know how they can say that. let's say the was saliva, if it
was that fresh of a sample. dna we can get off certain items over a period of time, but it's difficult to determine how long that dna has been there martha. martha: people are looking for these guys, according to rick leventhal the friendship, new york near the pa border was a bogus tip. >> it was said that was somewhat credible yesterday. where the two individuals were walk along the railroad track. someone else reported 30 miles away. what we have going on now because of the bounty out for these two individual, you have people calling in t there with been 1,500 tips that have come in and police have to do their due diligence and foul on each and every one of them. martha: if they were in this cabin and apparently he said he
saw someone running through the back door. what would cause them to stay together if they are still together? it seems like common sense should tell you they should split apart. >> because they are so yift 50s kateed triple nalds. look how long it took them to break out of that prison. by now, 17 days, they would be split apart but apparently they are still together. why would they still be together? because they are afraid if they do split apart one may get caught and they don't want that to happen. dwhraments they are together. if they are smart they would want to break apart. that means law enforcement would have to break apart it resources and it would make it easier for them to stay and the lamb. -- stay on the lam. martha: rod thank you very
much. bill: it seems like we are talking about this story every day. we'll find out whether or not -- new warnings on the danger of isis here at home in america. watch. >> we face the. >> i left threat level we ever faced in this country today. >> including after 9/11? >> including after 9/11. bill: is the terror group equipped? martha: high drama at the u.s. open. did you see this last night? two americans battle down to the final shot. what an incredible match. we'll be right back. when you travel, we help you make all kinds of connections. connections you almost miss. and ones you never thought you'd make. we help connect where you are.
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there is a lot of nervousness as we watch word out of greece. late word a moment ago that talks have broken off with the athens government in putting together a bailout plan that would prevent greece from going into default. analysts calling the talks a last-ditch evident. watch that story in europe. watch at home, too. 100 point to the up side. martha: officials work tirelessly to combat recruitment of isis online. one lawmaker is warning they are not stwoopg is seen in this country as an imminent threat. >> we face the highest threat level we have seen in this country. >> including after 9/11? >> including after 9/11. one is the flow of fighter that went from europe and other
western countries like the united states to fight in iraq and syria who have now come out. we don't know the people who have come in or the people who are back and on the street in the youth. martha: they are very concerned. k.t. macfarland is a former deputy secretary of defense in the reagan administration. they feel there is something out there and it is perhaps imminent. >> the state department issued a record friday night saying we think that isis is a bigger threat than al qaeda. the problem is not on the are they saying something is going to happen and we are in more danger than we have been since the end of the cold war. but what worries me i there is no sense we are getting ahead of this threat. isis died, have proliferation
in the middle east. it's not just that it's there. we are losing and the's upsetting especially as we go into the 4th of july weekend. martha: they talk about how they are recruiting for al qaeda. these guys are so good at it. isis has a hot appealing ability to bring people online and then they get surrounded by recruiters. once they are treating something and they think have have a live wire a hot one who will pull something off in this country they circle them in social media. it's an everywhere threat that is very different isn't it? >> it come in two way. the congressman said one way is americans and europeans go to the middle east and train come home. the other way is the one the fbi director warned about recruiting on social media. they are recruiting on social
media and it's almost like the devil sitting on your shoulder saying several times a day kill kill, kill. and we haven't figured out how to counter that. they get online and on social media and get surrounded by the people who want to recruit them and go kill. but that should be an opportunity for to us say we can find you now. you are online, we can track you down. martha: they keep shut down these twitter account and they pop up again. they couple with a new name in no time. but we had 9 fairly significant arrest. you have got garland, boston and new york, fort lee area. there is one 20-year-old who appears to be very central in all of this. he's an aeronautic student from queens. it's encouraging that they seem to be zeroing in on some of
these people. they have to. >> they have to be right 100 per of the times. the bad guy only have to be right once. after september 11 we didn't have a lot of teg we now have. we didn't have the meta data an d analytics. we now have al gore rhythms and metadata analysts and not worry about 90% of the population in the united states. let's zero in on the small percent and of people -- small percentage of people who are friend of friend. with the boston attack they had been looking at this guy. what we need to do is stop the
political correctness and let's ferret out the small percentage of people that are at risk of becoming terrorists, and then really track them and follow them to prevent attacks. martha: maybe these recent arrests are evidence we are getting better at tracking these people and we are embedding people in some of these groups. do you think our domestic intel in terms of that kind of work is getting any better? >> we don't know. we don't know because it's not like we see -- what we hopefully see is one or two arrests. maybe what we don't see is all the ones they shut down. as you look at the number of people coming up, the number of attacks being planned the number of people who go potentially operational it's on the increase. i'm not comforted by the fact we are treating this like every american is alike. what do these nine have in common? they have all been in chat
rooms. they have been in chat rooms and are all pretty well educated. martha: they match the brothers in france that pulled off the "charlie hebdo" attacks. k.t. thank you very much. good to see you as always. bill: 23 minute before the hour. jordan spieth is your 2015u.s. open champion. but only after dustin johnson hiss on the last hole. it was no sure thing right to the very end. johnson could have won it with an eagle putt on the 18. but he missed it. and then he missed a birdie putt. he could have forced a playoff
with spieth. so spieth is halfway to golf's grand slam after also winning the masters back in early april. wow, was this interesting. huge ratings for fox broadcast. martha: they made it interesting in so many way in terms of the graphics. this course was very unusual. i thought it was fun to watch because it was so tricky. it was phenomenal. also to listen to the caddies and the players how much they talk to each other through every single thing. hearing jordan spieth's caddie saying now visualize it. he's pretty good at visualizing. what a superstar he is. bill: there is a lot of debate on the course having the championship there on a course
that's only 8 years old. so there was a little bit of pro and con to that. but seeing these guys work so hard to make the precise shot is captivating. martha: you can tell he felt so terrible for dustin. he said it happened to me on 17. he had a putt that was the same sort of miss. he wanted to win but not necessarily that way. bill: it's great to see two americans here at home. we are going to go work for the golf champ. martha: that was interesting. how about this? two presidential candidates from families that are already lived in the white house. do voters really care about that issue in the end? bill: a woman stuck in floodwaters on her way to work. now she is the one facing
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martha: a woman is facing charges in texas after driving into a closed off area and getting stuck it was more than an hour before a truck could reach her. a dump truck was used to bring her to safety. >> reporter: she was embarrassed for what happened and where she ended up and all the commotion. >> her car is that far deep in water.
>> reporter: the woman is charged with disobeying warning signs and barricades. bill: a bush and a clinton making a run for the white house is sparking a debate in america. but only 4% of voters are concerned people from the same families are running. what does that say about it? ladies good morning to both of you. what does it tell you about dynasties in america and what's in a name? >> it's important to point out even though americans said it wasn't a top concern it's still a concern. this is one of the big factors with jeb bush running in the first place and hillary clinton is married to a former president. you have to look how close they are to their families.
jeb bush, his brother was george w. bush. he's close to his brother but he isn't married to his brother. hillary clinton while she was in the white house as the first lady had a big influence on public policy. i think that will be harder for her to get away from. bill: because she was pushing healthcare in 1993? >> that and she had other policy initiatives she was influential on. when you are talking about getting back in the white house. hillary clinton will have to answer for a couple of the things she sad row kaitd for while her husband was president. bill: marion, do you think she is on to something there? >> k.t. is wrong. it's jeb bush running away from his family and running away from the policies his brother and father enacted while hillary clinton is running on some of her husband's policies.
when there is a bush in the white house we have war and recession. when a clinton this the white house we have peace and prosperity. bill: it sounds like a commercial. we should cut that and we'll see that in a year. bill: wealthy corporations and individuals have too much influence over who wins. 33% of people were concerned about that. too much will be spent upon negative ads rather than proposing solutions. they do not want negativity. >> they don't. this is something we see in every election cycle but negativity works. this is as problem mr had in 2012. receive tried to take the high road and lost. that's what we see when the candidates decide not to go negative. although voters say they don't want to see it on the flip side, negativity works.
bill: you have got americans saying we don't like the money and you have americans saying we want positive message. >> i agree with katie on the neccessary tough part. but you have to end on a positive note. you have to start your campaign positive end it positive and in between you have to draw a sharp contrast and go negative. when it comes to money in the past people -- voters sales complained by the but it didn't have an effect. then came citizens united. a lot of voters feel they don't have the last word any more. they feel there are other people like so much else in their life, the deck is stacked against them. bill: if it is hillary clinton against jeb bush and twitter will fire up and say you are not talking about the other guys. but for the purposes of this question do hillary clinton and
jeb bush essentially cancel out the name game if they are representing the tide? >> yes. but i go back to what i said in the beginning. you have to look at the context of how close each candidate is to that dynasty game. bill: do they cancel each other out? >> i agree with katie go back to the beginning. when you see you the name bush you think war and recession. when you hear clinton you think peace and prosperity. bill: i heard that. i think just give me someone competent. that's what the "wall street journal" shows. >> they both know how to be president without actually being president. you could have two people nominated by their parties who know it pretty well.
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[♪] martha: some bad blood between pop star taylor swift and apple. the tech giant doing an about-face and quick after swift published an open letter. she criticized apple for them not planning to pay artists for three months. she said we don't ask you to provide us with free i phones, don't ask us to provide you with our music for no compensation. wow, this girl has incredible
pull. >> she is knock around a $730 billion market cap company. apple jumping on board with the streaming band wagon. they wanted to offer music for free as a trial because after that they will charge you $9.99 a month unlike pandora which you can listen to for free, but you can listen to the commercials. martha: it's unbelievable she was able to do this so quickly. but she has a point. she is saying if you want to offer something free, air it. but you have to pay us. it's our creative content. >> she he this for all the artist writing songs. at one point she was one of those people who didn't have pull. but she is the number two selling artist right now right
behind beyonce. elvis costello tweeted she is going to be the next president. martha: it' a pretty crowded field. what many the impact in term of long term? this is a drug the music industry has had for a long time. these folks are fighting hard to hold on to their stuff. >> we are seeing kickback, fightback. i think this might be the beginning after new trend with artisting this powerful as taylor swift get on board and start talking about this stuff it's meaningful. 198 was the year of her birth -- 1989 that's the year of her
birth. that's the best sales record since eminem. martha: she is an incredible business woman and she has had a lot of success. well done, nicely handled. bill: martha know all the word. martha: i have a daughter and i know all the word. bill: will we get two major decisions from the u.s. supreme court? in four minute we should have an idea if those rulings will happen today. and a major case on obamacare is pending as the justices wind down this june session. when you travel, we help you make all kinds of connections. connections you almost miss. and ones you never thought you'd make. we help connect where you are.
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session as we coal come everybody to brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. hope you had a great weekend. justices deciding on a central component to obamacare. that is the subsidies paid out to americans as we speak. the awards established by the states could cripple entire law. that is the phrase in question. shannon bream outside of the supreme court. shannon what is at stake here? good morning. >> reporter: straight outside, 10:00 we should get the first cities. we expect multiple decisions but we never know which one. when the obama care subsidies decision will come down it is critical to the law and it is function. millions of people get these subsidies to help afford what is mandatory health insurance. the irs extended those subsidies across the country even though as you noted the language of the statute says go to states settings up their exchanges. more than 30 didn't.
those subsidies may go away. if they do those people have choices to make. those argue it may gut the law entirely. lawmakers across the street will have to scramble up with some kind of a solution. several will be floated. we expect this to be one of the 5-4 decisions. we'll know shortly if it happens the president doesn't think the court should have even heard the case. he expects them to side with his and administration interpretation of the statute. here is what he said a few days ago. >> i'm optimistic that the supreme court will play it straight when it comes to the interpretation. >> reporter: so i asked josh earnest at the white house what do you mean? if you lose, the court didn't play it straight? do you think they're playing politics? he dodged question. he said they expect to join the case. bill: there is another one on the line. same-sex marriage what is at stake for the justices. >> reporter: what they're looking at are a couple of
questions. they will decide whether or not there is constitutional right across the board for same-sex marriage. can states who have banned it can those bans withstand constitutional scrutiny. something that could have broad effect. could make same-sex marriage in every legal state across the country. they could taylor it more narrowly. we'll find out what our first opinion is of the day. bill: shannon, stand by we might have news from the steps of the u.s. supreme court. >> reporter: got it. martha: any developments we'll break in. meantime people in charleston, south carolina and all around the world coming together. tens of thousands of people joined hands and marched across the city's ravenell bridge in charleston, a touching show of solidarity for the nine victims of the vicious attack carried out against a church bible study group last week. the historic mother emanuel opening its doors yesterday for the first time since wednesday's
shooting. worshipers packed that church for an immensely emotional sunday service yesterday with huge messages of hope and of heeling and of love. >> expected us to do something strange and to break out in a riot. well they just don't know us. [applause] >> it is about forgiving and about being able to love one another and for -- >> i am so proud to be a charles stonian to be among people who are unifying and showing the world how to do things. >> i want to stay to the visitors of charleston and citizens, thank you for -- martha: incredible outpouring over the weekend. let's bring in fox news senior political analyst brit hume.
brit, i was so struck and moved really with we saw in charleston over the course of this weekend especially given the backdrop and racial divide we've seen in recent months. >> martha, this was illustration how seriously those people there take their christian faith. attitude of togetherness and forgiveness which is central tenet of christianity and one of the things christ preached most strongly was on evidence there and the result was what you saw. this outpouring of multiracial outpouring of tens of thousands of people responded to this in a way that one might not have expected. credit to charleston. credit to those people and credit to their sincerity of their faith. martha: yeah, it was really beautiful. and they stretched across the ref ven nell bridge. you can see the signs they were carrying. pastor was saying, people thought we might riot. look at horrible scenes we've
seen in recent months in the wake of these murders and anger about law enforcement. they spoke about law enforcement, thank you for protecting us in the city of charleston. really was such a you tokerful message. it came, it came from the church as you rightly point out brit. it did not come although they joined in this is not a political message, is it? >> no, it is not a political message. it has some impact on politics because it sets such an extraordinary example of how a city hit by such a hideous act can respond and how unifying that can be. and i think it is striking and certainly speaks to what this modern community of charleston, south carolina, as become. martha: it's a very special place. i hope that message is felt across the country because it is really powerful. it raises the issue of the section amendment and karl rove spoke this weekend.
ii want to get your thoughts what he had to say about solution. >> maybe there is some magic law that will keep us from having more of these. basically only way we would guarranty dramatically reduce acts of violence involving guns is basically removes guns rom society. until somebody gets enough to repeal the second amendment that is not going to happen. martha: unlikely to happen. >> he went on to say, martha he didn't think that was the solution. in other words it wouldn't work. martha: that is the point is made because you know that the laws were in place and even laws that have been discussed make it very difficult for someone to not get their hands on a gun handed to them for their 21st birthday brit. these holes are very tough to put your finger in the dike of in any way. >> well this comment that karl made yesterday on "fox news sunday" caused quite a stir in social media. it was under second amendment
advocates took it as his favoring the repeal of that part of the bill of rights and i don't think that is what he was getting at at all. i think the point he was making was, if you simply have a determined criminal particularly one who is maybe deranged, that person is going to be able to find a weapon regardless of the gun safety and the gun laws that may exist. and that is what i think he was getting at. martha: absolutely. sometimes sarcasm and irony are lost in social media. that may be exactly what happened. clearly karl felt there is no way that you will ever repeal the second amendment in this country and, that is not going to be the solution that we arrive at. brit, thank you very much for waying -- weighing in. we await the supreme court decisions and we know you're standing by that as well. thank you sir. >> you bet.
bill: police pursue new leads in the manhunt for two convicted killers. richard sweat david matt still on the run today. two different ends ever new york state were open for discovery. of the police have back near the clinton correctional facility, on northeastern part of the state focusing on a hunting cabin where they found dna that might be from one of the escapees. >> 300 members of law enforcement age is were brought in for the search. we will search behind every tree and structure until we're confident that area is secure. bill: bill daly, fbi investigator is with us. questions bill. 350 miles apart which is enormous space you imagine the manpower that has to go into that. we're told the focus has gone back to an area 30 miles west of the prison. what do you know about this? >> really right now they're
relying on, bill, i witnesses. they may have seen the two individuals. there are reports they may have seen these two men walking in that vicinity. whether or not it is them, they don't know. you can tell how much police are relying on local citizens to be able to provide them information, as much as they have high-tech gear from thermal imaging and surveillance through helicopters as we see from the footage, it really relies on people on the ground seeing something out of normal. people that don't fit into the community. bill: on the dna do you know whether or not this is the dna of one of those they're looking for or is that just a suspicion? >> that at this point is just a suspicion. it will take time to do forensic analysis to find out if it is them. that is interesting. at this point it doesn't bring us to where they are. it suggests they were in that vicinity in the hunting cabin for a period of time. bill: sorry bill. >> it goes to show you how complex this issue is. they are in a very rural area.
both these place, people may not be familiar with these locations are very rural mountainous and very difficult. it will be complicated more and more bill, you have more seasonal travelers and vacationers going up in this part of new york where people go to for vacation. as those people come in it complicates issue of more people in the area screening more vehicles and concerns that those people could be victimized by these people on the run. bill: just quickly what is your hunch? are they that good or are they getting help on the outside or both? >> i think at this point they're, they have been good at estraighting the -- evading police. they are desperate individuals cunning individuals, as we've seen as they have been able to get this woman inside the prison to help them. whether other people are complicit we don't know. goes to you how tactical and cunning these individuals are and how concerned we need to be about everyone's welfare.
bill: 14 days plus. bill daley, thank you for coming in here. martha: isis continues on a path of destruction. the terror group making a move that could demolish an ancient city and all of it is history. then there is this. >> racism, we are not cured of, and it is not just a matter of, it not being polite to say [bleep] in public. that is not the measure of whether racism still exists or not. bill: there is a lot of comment after that particular comment. the president not mincing words talking about race. did he go too far to make his point or not? terrific panel on that. we'll debate knit a moment. martha: we're awaiting these key supreme court decisions including a huge decision on obamacare. we're learning more about the men behind the that law and why new reports are saying jonathan gruber had a much bigger role in all of this than thought.
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not known if to seize ground or keep forces out. that site known for well-preserved statues and toombs. it once attracted thousands of tourists. no longer because of this war. isis already destroyed heritage sites and ancient artifacts in other parts of syria and iraq to date. martha: we are waiting this morning to see what happens at the supreme court. all eyes on the big court building today as they are watching up the current session. decisions in a couple of big cases what we're waiting for primarily. we have a couple of decisions that came down this morning. the big one we're waiting for is highly anticipated case for obamacare. that is one of them. the justices are deciding on legality of subsidies affordable for millions of americans. let's take that on now. judge andrew napolitano, three out this morning, one more to come. >> as of 10:16:45 this morning.
still waiting for one more. could being same-sex marriage, obamacare or one a little below our radar screen. martha: generally get out less headline-grabbing decisions to clear the plate of those then do this? you think you wait until the end? >> seems these major cases which there is tremendous public interest always come out at the end. the last day of the court is a week from today. decisions come out on thursdays and mondays. you have today this thursday and next monday. that's it. then the justice are scattered to the four corners of the earth literally to the first monday in october. something coming? martha: we're just getting word obamacare and same-sex marriage ruling will not be included in today's ruling. as you accurately point out we have thursday. we will have the same discussion. then we have monday. >> right. martha: you know it is almost comical in a way because they could drop the decision and everybody runs off for summer
vacation. >> with my speculation they are still valid because we still don't know what the court is doing. martha: we still don't know. with regard to obamacare you make an interesting point which is if they decide that the state jurisdiction over these issues in terms of giving subsidies if you didn't establish if you didn't establish a network and exchange in your state that you will be, continue to be entitled to these federal subsidies, if that happens they're still going to have six months before anybody would not get that subsidy, correct? >> right. the court has a principle, many many basic guidelines the court follows. one of i which is, a governmental benefit given under color of law meaning people giving benefit really believe the benefit was owed to those who got it can not be taken back. if people got subsidy for the calendar year 2015, they're not going to have to give it back. one guess and the states will have six months if the subsidies
are rule invalid to fix this the ruling would be prospective not retrospective. martha: i'm gleaning from your notes today you seem to be leaning toward them upholding this as a scrivener's error? >> just a gut feeling. my gut feel something based on 40 years of studying supreme court opinions. my personal familiarity with the way some of the justice think and reading of the transcript of oral argument. there is a principle of law which says that if there is an obvious error, a scrivener's error, typographical error two instead of study, states instead of federal -- martha: two or 20 is different than established by the state which is the clause they are stewing over. >> yes. martha: not an obvious typo. not like they spelled something wrong. they're saying we meant for the federal government but we didn't put it in there. that is a substantive
discussion is it not? >> yes that is an excellent argument that you're making. that is the argument of the challengers. the other argument is the court's job is to salvage a statute and not invalidate 2700 pages because of four words. martha: yeah. >> that is actually a conservative argument because conservatives on the court believe in deferring to the legislature. the legislature writes the laws. we're interpret the laws. martha: this is not near as big it was. a lot bigger than paper i'm holding. congress hands them the law here is what we wrote. this is what we believe. here you go. they take it and read it. >> the reason these exchanges were established by the federal government rather than the state government is because the court invalidated that portion of the statute which congress ordered the states to establish the exchanges. congress and we mean the democrats, this is written by the democrats no republican assistance no republican
amendments, no republican votes, the democrats never contemplated that the court would invalidate that the past statute these exchanges the means which you purchase this insurance you can't afford would be established by the federal government. martha: they didn't read it. >> we know they didn't read it. the chief drafter of it didn't admit she didn't read it. martha: thank you judge. >> see you thursday. bill: keep your powder dry judge. the taliban attacking the heart of afghanistan's government. list edge. >> [explosion] [screaming. bill: bill: a car bomb explodes at parliament. the hour's long siege that followed. plus there is this. martha: now for something completely different, folks? remember that crazy stunt. that guy made history and came on the stunt to try something
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but anyone can help a foster child. martha: well a monster truck driver pulls off a stunt that is frankly insane. watch this. [engine noise] all right. driver tom mintz going for double backflip and nails it. bill: stuck the landing. martha: he is pretty pumped up about it. listen to this. >> it was awesome, man. maxine hold up on the way, we give it our all. thanks to the fans at foxboro to see history.
max c double backflip, baby! bill: why not. martha: all right. landing still counts. double backflip. just a couple weeks ago he tried the front flip which is a lot more difficult. that one did not go very well. and he came on the show and talked to us. he said he would do a double backflip. a man of his word. bill: a very good dude. a man of his word. martha: i think he is pretty happy in his line of work. bill: i think he is dizzy too. 26 past the hour. fox news alert now. major attack on the afghan parliament in kabul, the capital city. [speaking in native tongue] [explosion] [screaming] bill: those sounds. a car bomb exploding outside of the building's entrance, wounding dozens of civilians.
gunmen tried to storm the parliament building. security held them off. killed seven terrorists in a firefight. conor powell live in the middle east bureau with more. what do we know about the target for this attack, conor. >> reporter: this was well coordinated and obviously very brazen attack. taliban focused on afghan parliament debating new afghan defense minister. they tried to undermined the event with a huge car bomb outside gates of parliament. rushing six or seven attackers into the overall compound. afghan security forces were able to kill all of the attackers. some got into the overall building but not into the parliamentary room. video shows members of the parliament in a smoke-filled room being rushed to safety. ultimately afghan officials claim this as success, because as you said, they were able to prevent any type of serious loss of life. 31 people were injured.
no reports of any deaths including members of the parliament. all were rushed to safety. afghan officials say it was a success. clearly shows some of the limitations of the afghan security forces. bill: they got so close. what does it tell us about their ability, conor? >> reporter: well security in kabul as across all of afghanistan still remains very fragile. afghan security forces improving in the sense they are able to repel these types of attacks but they are not able to stop or prevent them from happening. one big question how did the taliban get all of these fighters and this car bomb past so many security checkpoints? kabul has tons of them, particularly as you get closer and closer to the government buildings. there was a major lapse of security in kabul. afghan security forces showing some improvement to prevent sort of repeal these attacks but clearly, bill, they have a long way to go before kabul and overall the entire country is safe and secure. the taliban gained a lost ground
in recent weeks and months since u.s. and nato forces have left the country. the security forces showing some improvement but, bill, there is still a lot of problems. corruption and ineffectiveness in the afghan security forces. bill: we'll watch that story going forward. conor powell in jerusalem. martha what is next? martha: the shooting massacre in charleston south carolina has start ad new push to take down the confederate flag from the wider grounds area of the state capitol. we'll debate that straight ahead. >> the flag that i pledge allegiance to is one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all. and that is the only flag that i pledge allegiance to. u make all kinds of connections. connections you almost miss. and ones you never thought you'd make. we help connect where you are.
nato unit. a rapid reaction force that helped defend europe against russia. secretary carter says the u.s. is deeply committed to defend defending europe. that news just breaking from the continent. 32 past the hour. martha: fox news alert to the extreme weather going on in some areas of the great lakes and midwest today. meteorologist maria maria molina live in the fox weather center. good morning. maria. >> we're tracking a complex of storms racing eastwards and this storm system is responsible for wind gusts over 90 miles per hour across this part of the country and continuing to race eastward. there are severe thunderstorm warnings in wisconsin, northwest illinois and that system will continue to move eastward throughout the day and through early afternoon hours. the big question what happens behind this line of storms? this in itself is very severe. you're looking very strong
winds, also blinding rain if you happen to be caught on the roads. behind that we could look at another round of thunderstorms that fires up. there is a big concern out here across parts of the great lakes and also into the midwest that the environment is very favorable for some of these storms to produce severe weather in the form of large hail, damaging winds possibly over 70 miles per hour and also tornadoes. there is a threat for strong tornadoes out there across eastern iowa, northern parts of illinois and across a pretty widespread area in the state of wisconsin. so we're looking at potential for ef-2 or ef-5 tornado, ranging between that strength. eventually that overall storm system keeps moving eastward. look what happens for your tuesday. we could see more severe storms, anywhere from portions of new england, farther west across ohio and indiana. for tomorrow we don't think the potential for severe weather is as high as what we're looking at for today but it is still there. you will still have a lot of wind sheer for the storms that could potentially produce
rotation and produce isolated tornado touchdowns across these areas. the other big story martha, though, the heat, it is really on across parts of the plains and into the southeast. look what it will feel like out there later today. 100 in raleigh, 102 in memphis and 101 in the city of tulsa. martha: you are busy. a lot going. thanks very much, maria. >> thanks. >> racism, we are not kurd of and it is not just a matter of, it not being polite to say [bleep] in public. that is not the measure of what racism still exists or not. it is not just a matter of overt discrimination. societies don't overnight completely erase everything that happened two to 300 years prior. bill: wow that has a lot of people talking president obama making blunt remarks about our country's complex history with race.
too blunt or not? basil mike kel jr. contributor for "the hill" around jean borelli. fox news contributor. touchy touchy, touchy deal here. was it necessary? >> we're talking about the president of the united states using the "n" word, bill. he has really dragged in the gutter speak of rap music. so now he is first president of rap, of street? come on, he has lowered the stature of the high office of the president of the united states and the question is why did he do this? bill: why do you think? >> you see all of the people coming together in the streets of charleston south carolina, black, white and otherwise, coming together praying, supporting each other. here you have the president make this insane, crazy comment of using the "n" word to really distract. this is all a distraction, grand
distraction to take away from the people uniting and then the president in chief, the rapper-in chief, now further dividing our country. i find it outrain just. bill: basil was it acceptable or not. >> it is acceptable because he is making the point you shouldn't use the word. put this in context. talking about hate. talking about the history of this country and it's the racism that existed here. that is making that point if it is cringe-worthy to hear it clearly the point is hitting home you shouldn't say it no matter who you are. i also don't want to put rap music on this issue, not endemic. bill: more context, go back to his statement okay? not just a matter of it not being polite to say the "n" word in public. polite? respectful? correct? proper? i mean as a white american, my entire life i know that that is
an electric word. >> sure. bill: you stay away from it. if you're 30 years and under listening to rap music white or black -- >> not just rap music. bill: over that age. this is something we thought was entirely off limits now you have the president using it. >> there is a school of thought that says if you twist the word and embrace it in a way that it takes the negative aspect out of it i don't accept that there are a lot of communities of color don't accept that. the president clearly doesn't accept it. what he is i snag that moment this is a horrible word. in context of all that has gone on everything we tried to adopt say no,ymbol of is being greater, not acceptable. that goes to the "n" word and goes for the confederate flag. i think it -- bill: i'm not going to say it because i respect you as human being and i respect you as human being, i'm not going there ever. >> he didn't call anybody the "n" word. bill: the suggestion is that white americans don't use it because they're polite.
>> this speaks volumes about the president of the united states. the man is divisive. taken a level of office the presidency down to another level saying these words. he is continuing, listen class warfare you name it, that is what he runs on, bill. to make these kind of comments my goodness, you got children who are hearing. what -- hearing this. >> what they heard -- what they heard from you can't take something you folks say is symbol or commonly used -- >> he is dividing the country basil. >> hate goes for the "n" word and goes for the confederate flag. that is what he is saying. what he is saying we have legacy of racism. >> said nothing about people coming together in charleston? did i hear him say about that. >> he absolute are said that since the shooting. bill: a lot of people weighing in. my position how to address the confederate flag is clear. florida we acted removing flag out of the state grounds and
museum it belongs. his home district was charleston south carolina and said this on cbs. >> there is no doubt that south carolina has a rich and provocative history and that flag is a part of the history and for some that flag represents that history, for some others it represents a pain and a oppression. i am looking forward to our state leaders getting together and having a robust conversation after the fun as -- funerals about what is the next step. bill: after the funerals. >> sure. listen, the confederate flag, some people view it proslavery. some people view it as state pride. anyone who displays the flag, bill they need to recognize there are some americans who will be offended by the display of the flag. bill: what he is saying allow us to mourn. then -- >> that is fine. a great point for him to make. bill: basil. >> take the flag down. no reason for it to be up.
the fact you need a supermajority of legislature to lower it in south carolina is ridiculous. >> it is up to the citizens. bill: thanks to you dinneen as well. appreciate it. martha what is next? martha: controversy brewing over a picture of senator ted cruz is next. framing of photo has supporters up in arms. what the associated press is saying about this and their decision to publish it. bill: new polling spelling good news for marco rubio and jeb bush. why would that be? could one be a consensus frontrunner early on. they polled republicans on this. they will break down the new numbers in a moment next.
distance. his are supporters blowing up social media. ap said five of the photos published by app included images of guns seen on a wall, so it appeared a pistol was pointed at senator cruz's head. the images were not intended to portray senator cruz in a negative light. hmmm. i love the ap. that was like -- martha: nobody in the room, when they were looking at all that, gee, that might not be a good idea. might want to dial back on that one. bill: i hear you. martha: well-done. so some new pols showing which republican candidates may have the broadest appeal heading into 2016. the two guys from florida seem to be leading the pack at the moment, at least according to this measure. "the wall street journal" polls put jeb bush as the favorite over marco rubio but only slightly. 75% of republicans say that they could see themselves supporting jeb bush for president. it is a very broad interesting
question which we'll talk about. so when asked about this junior senator from florida as well, marco rubio, 74% said yes i could see myself voting for marco rubio as president by that measure. let's see what the folks make ever that. ed rollins campaign manager for ronald reagan '84. joe trippi for howard dean in '04. both are fox news contributors. good to have you here. >> good to be with you. martha: pretty good jump for jeb bush. he was 56% back in march. now he is 75. same kind of jump for marco rubio. better everybody gets to knows these two and few others we'll mention they get more interested. ed. >> they're both likeable men. they had interesting couple weeks. rubio had a great launch and bush had a good launch. this is a big margin of error six 1/2% the differential could be 12 points. it is a very close race. when asked would you sometime in
the future be willing to vote for, leaves you a lot of room. almost everyone of the candidates measured, 13 measured will grow as time goes on. real part will come out tonight, head-to-head, head-to-head right now who is your first choice, bush leads that with 22%. scott walker is a close 17% behind that. all within the margin dealing with 256 republicans. >> i would imagine bush has to feel pretty good about that. he got off to a bit of a rocky start. looks like more he talks about what he is interested in doing the more people are open to considering him. also carly fiorina ben carson, mike huckabee, their numbers went up dramatic i. rand paul's number went down according to this particular measure would you consider voting for him. joe, what do you make of all this? >> ed's right. this number is good for the two of them but it is the head-to-head numbers that will
determine where they really are in particularly this stage of primaries but look, bush deserves credit on this. i think a lot of people didn't think that the past few weeks have been that kind to him but he has grown. the problem that the gop has it needs to broaden its support to win the general election. i've always thought that bush and rubio and there are a couple of others that lend themselves to the gop to be their leaders to broaden that support this poll definitely supports that. so i think it's good for rubio. it's good for bush. unclear though what happens if caseic enters the race. case zick. another one i would be concerned about as a democrat. there is such a huge field having this broad in the future i could see myself voting for him doesn't stop somebody from with a narrow strength of
support from winning with 18% in a state like iowa. martha: i want to switch gears to ask you a quick hillary clinton question in the minute we have left. fox obtain ad list of more than 20 fund-raisers, according to ed henry she will hold between day and july 3rd h had. very aggressive raise in fund-raising. that show concern among her camp? >> june 30 is the quarterly deadline for all presidential candidates to file what they have raised. so i suspect every single one ever the candidates, jeb bush, rubio, clinton, all of them are really stepping up. they always step up in the final days going through to the june 30th deadline. july 4th obviously a sort of a great day -- martha: that they're concerned about bernie sanders, concerned about -- >> i think hillary will may have a lot of problems but raising
money i don't think is one of them. >> joe said she was slow getting off. other candidates did a lot of money in super pac. she didn't do as much of that. she did primary money at $2700 a pop. it a much slower raise. martha: we'll see what he needs to feel in the next several days. thanks very much. bill: we have a question, how many people can you fit on a surf board maccallum. we have a question and new world record. martha: not a regulation surfboard. go out on a limb be. bill: check that with guinness. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ (singing) you wouldn't haul a load without checking your clearance.
attack. we'll ask if that is appropriate. plus a radical drop in heart attack deaths and what is behind the transformation of some patients. massive crackdown by the fbi against terrorist threats here in the united states. we'll have it for you top of the hour on "happening now." bill: thank you jon, we'll see you then. robots are not only saving us time and energy but believe it or not are keeping us healthy. claudia cowan how that works live at golden gate park in san francisco. hello, claudia. >> reporter: hello, bill, that's right. glimpses of our robotic future are appearing in bay area hospitals and museums like the young museum in golden beat bark where disabled visitors are able to roam the galleries. >> i love sighing all the art. >> patrick's disability affects speech and motor control. he doesn't have to leave his home in alaska to explore the museum in san francisco. he steer as virtual earth guy
with the beam probe with his eyes. >> the camera helps me see art i would not otherwise be able to see. >> reporter: "robocops" equipped with censors and cameras patrol parks inin silicon valley. robotic bellhops deliver items to guests, no tips required. in san francisco's new mission bay medical center a fleet of 25 programmable tugs do much of the grunt work. >> it carries pharmacy medications. it carries pathological specimens. all the trash and medical waste is hauled out of the hospital on these tugs. so nebraska has to push big, heavy carts around. >> reporter: back at the museum robots make life easier and more enjoyable. >> there is more direct accessible than being able to get into the building. >> reporter: some worry that robots will take jobs away from people but studies show, for instance, there will be a shortage of caregivers in the years ahead.
that is why the federal government is spending almost $800 million to help build robots help monitor health of senior sit tones make sure they're eating right, getting enough to drink. another user-friendly sophisticated robot bill, designed to help people. bill: that is remarkable stuff claudia cowan, insightful look there, thanks. martha: well the new york manhunt for two escaped murderers spreads from one end of the state to the other. the latest on the new leads coming up. when you travel, we help you make all kinds of connections. connections you almost miss. and ones you never thought you'd make. we help connect where you are. to places you never thought you'd go. this, is why we travel. and why we cony to connect you to the people and places that matter.
the board is 42 feet long and 11 feet wide. >> it is like a hammer clan at the beach. >> everybody on! >> it would break if we did that. bye everybody we will see you next time. the start of the pivotal week on capital hill. lawmakers preparing to act on the president's trade bill. welcome to "happening now." i am jon scott. >> and i am patty ann brown in for jenna lee. the senate will vote on trade authority for the second time. >> and democrats await a key supreme court ruling that could radically change obamacare. bret baier is live. to the trade deal