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theme used against me and my husband for many many years. dismissing it as part of a constant borage of attacks, largely fermented by the right. which drew response to when her husband was accused of having an affair with monica lewinsky. >> the great story here is that vast right wing conspiracy has been conspireing against my husband since the day he ran for president. >> next asked about a e mail account while secretary of state and the decision to delete her e mails before returning those documents to the state department. >> let's start with the beginning. everything i did was permitted. there was no law, there was no regulation, nothing did not give me the full authority to decide
how it was going to communicate i didn't have to turn over anything. i chose to turn over 55,000 pages because i wanted to go above and beyond what is expected of me. now, people get a look at what i was e mailing about and communicating about. and >> working a fax machine? >> yes. a secure fax machine. >> yes. it's fun. she was asked about the clinton foundation and allegations that she may have done favors for companies in countries while secretary of state in exchange for donations to her family charity. she said she had no plans to say, or do anything about the clinton foundation other than to say how proud she was and the
work of the foundation should continue. there was much more but first chris stierwalt is here. so first, it's fun. it's so fun. >> that is the word. >> i mean it was kind of shocking to hear her come out and say, you know to dismiss that as just fun, and she did nothing wrong and clinton foundation, i'm not going to talk about that other than "go team" and talking about a right wing conspiracy. six out of ten americans are part of this. >> they've been duped it's not important that hillary clinton destroyed documents i destroyed evidence that would clear me but take my word for it. it's fun. and ha ha giggle giggle.
it's not just the same as she said in the 90s, which she turned out to be wrong about what her husband had been doing. >> not necessarily her fault. >> it is the same as what the obama administration does now, to say your line of inquiry is not valid. it's the judge's defense and he's got danny noonan saying danny do you want to be good or bad? >> so what she is saying to the cnn reporter is are you stupid? that is what she's trying to telegraph. are you stupid? and no one cares because those six out of ten people have been duped. >> and you must choose the matrix for the obama white house that you must choose and you can
ask questions that we have deemed unacceptable which will cast you as fox like or unacceptable, you'll be shunned if you bring up these things i thought of you, counsellor. when hillary clinton said here is how i feel about the family foundation that was swarmed with controversy. she said that is all i'm going to say about it the fact her interviewer said okay moving on. like oh okay. if that is how, if you think it's really good we'll move on. didn't say stop hold on. i'm sure you think it's great but i want to ask you about the russian uranium deal and lifting the barriers to a deal for your friend in columbia. and details reported in the "new york times" and washington post. come on. >> she had to save time for the question behind which is what character on "saturday night
live" she would like to see play her more. i don't want to rip on my fellow journalists but she got the sit down and she made news. >> one of the things being challenged involve what's she said about those e mails and her insisting that no rules were broken. shannon kauffman is former counsel to vice president cheney. guys thank you for being here. >> good evening. . >> i just want to play for viewers what she said on e mail. do we have the sound byte? waiting? listen here. >> so yes. this is being blown up with no basis in law or in fact. that is fine i get it. this is being in effect used by the republicans in the congress
okay. but i want people to understand what the truth is. >> she goes on to say that she did exactly what secretary of state colin powell did. >> right. right. let's start with where the law is and what the law required the law required that she get copies of records that were on her private e mail. and as a result she was, at least from regulations in place from 2009 she was violating those rules. and she was, we've seen now, that she destroyed records, that she altered records provided to the state department and concealed those records. >> what do you make of the assertion that this is a shift?
that this is -- she's not on their heels now. she's out in front saying i did nothing wrong. i went above and beyond what is required of me and did what secretary of state colin powell did, and no more. >> i don't know how she can say that. she sent a cable out to the field that said stop using private e mails. everyone in the state department. she was doing exactly that. she did that in 2011 because that is what her own regulations required. her own regulations said that. >> the other thing is that she, colin powell did use private e mail. she's right about that. he didn't use exclusively private e mail. that is what got her into trouble. it wasn't just she had a private e mail account. a lot of politicians do. it was the exclusive use of it and the failure to turn over any of those e mails. >> megyn. when you get through the
partisan rhetoric the only thing colin powell did differently is that hillary clinton turned over her work-related e mails. >> but i just want to make sure we're talking on the same point. what her critics had said is that he yes, had personal e mail and did state business on it. but he did state business on -- on the state -- >> excuse me megyn. he did all state department business on personal e mail and turned over none of them. >> no. that is not true. he claims he didn't have them. it's well documented. so my point is, megyn, republicans are operative, out there trying to make issues of the foundation that have been disproved by every objective nal sis including the "wall street journal." >> but they said there is no smoking gun. >> they said no evidence showing
favoritism. >> and the -- >> excuss -- excuse me megyn. the reason you don't see the e mails or e mail attacks or attacks from the foundation registering in polls because hillary clinton holds a 40% lead over her democratic competitors nationwide and leading over the republicans dramatically too. >> she is leading bernie and other guys whose names escape me easily. she's the favorite for the democratic nomination how is she going to get away with saying six out of ten voters thinking she's not honest is part of a right wing conspiracy? >> when you look at polling, and this is important. when anyone goes from enters the political sphere trust worthy issue goes down.
also worse before they run. when the ask the question do you trust hillary clinton to fight for you? stand up for you? she leads all of the republicans and democrats. >> we don't trust her, but trust her to fight for us? let me ask you this. the other thing is that she talked about the republican field she had choice words for them on the subject of immigration she condemned them for not condemning donald trump's remarks and went on to say this listen. >> they're in the same general area on immigration. you know? they don't want to provide a path to citizenship. she range across the spectrum of grudgingly welcome or hostile towards immigrants. >> now, the problem for her on that is jeb bush considered to be the favorite by many polls is married to a woman who is from mexico. he has children who are half
mexican. he you know hostile? towards immigrants? how is that going to fly? >> this is -- i'm glad you bring this up. these are the types of issues that the american people focused on that ultimately determine election results. hillary clinton put out a bold plan for a pathway to citizenship. everyone including jeb bush opposes -- he wants a pathway to legal status. not citizenship. does that make him hostile towards >> he said he wants to have a conservative solution to the problem. i don't know what that means. >> he is married to a mexican immigrant. how do you say he is hostile? he married her grudgingly? he used a grudge against her? >> 11 to 12 million of them, second class citizenship. so that means our military young undocumented workers are in the military college
graduates. people earning and contributing to today are condemned to live a second class life. >> jeb bush said citizenship before saying hell status she reversed herself on this subject as well. on the issue of driver's licenses and other rights for illegal immigrants. the reason is -- >> i got to go. it's over between us. >> it's a pleasure speaking with you both. >> good to be with you. >> the state of new york joining others that are changing the rules when it comes to sex on campus i don't mean sex on campus the rules have changed when it comes to sex. activists offer up consent contracts with pens and condoms. this is no joke. why every family with college-aged kids needs to pay attention. and those demanding change after
an illegal immigrant with a long felony record murders this young woman in front of her father. wait until you see what we found on the record on sanctuarisy and who is supporting them. stay tuned for the investigation. thin can these six cops get a fair trial in the city of baltimore? the argument to move this case and kevin jackson is moments away. when you're not confident your company's data is secure the possibility of a breach can quickly become the only thing you think about.
a big story developing as new york joins a growing list of states passing tough new rules when it comes to sex on campus. today new york's governor cuomo signed a law each party must consent knowingly and voluntarily. he is telling you how it is going to go. the cause is good. it is part of an effort to stop sexual assault. and this movement has reached a point, however, where some groups are offering and feel it is necessary to have written consent contracts that you are supposed to sign before you engage in the act where you write down yes, we agree to have sex. applause in the studio. coming with the contract there
is a condom a pen and there is a breath mint and they recommend now that you take a photo of you and your lover with the contract signed before you engage in the act. our fox news senior political analyst and it has come to this because -- as i say the cause is good. everybody wants to diminish sexual assault on college campuses. it has gotten to the point of ridiculousness where they want verbal consent every step of the way. you start the kissing and it progresses and there is a yes and a yes and a yes. >> translator: it >> it suggests people drawing up plans have never had sex because you kind of don't want to stop each stage along the way to give each other bulletins about the level of your consent. we are seeing nothing short of the reregulation of sex. when i was in college a half a
century ago there were no co-ed dorms. there were very strict rules about when you could be around girls on the campuses where you could take them what hours they could stay out. >> that's a video of your college years. >> i hope you don't. >> that was a recognition of the fact that as you might have put it back then boys will be boys and guys are pretty lusty and you needed to be careful when you got them around young women particularly if there are parties and alcohol. the sexual revolution did away with that and led in to the hookup culture that we have seen in recent years. the culmination of the deregulation of sex. now what we are seeing people don't particularly like some of the results of that and they are trying to re-regulate it and that's where we are. >> here is the reason it is so concerning. it is important to improve the
rights of women who are victims of sexual assault on college campuses. we are going in a direction and we have been covering this repeatedly on "the kelly file" where we almost entirely eliminate the rights of men. there is a presumption on these campuses thanks to the obama administration of guilt. if you are a young man who gets accused it is your burden to prove consent and we are get toog the point where you have to have a contract. if you don't you are going to be presumed a rapist. >> and not just a contract but some kind of two person selfie with the two of you holding up the consent form. >> which your parents tell us we shouldn't be doing. >> incriminating evidence i suppose in one sense. >> and the presumption comes from this place that the obama administration has imposed which is sexual assault victims need more protection than the
defendants. here are the instructions handed down by the administration. public and state supported schools must provide due process to the alleged perpetrators but it's not too much due process. schools must ensure steps taken do not restrict or unnecessarily delay the protections for the complainant complainant. it's all about the complainant but there are other rights. the question about whether the university should be engaged in the basis of adjudicating at all has serious questions attached to them. >> absolutely. and it has been so serious, in fact that a group of harvard law professors wrote a letter expressing their joint alarm at the erosion of due process rights for the accused in these cases and some of the systems put in place on these campuses where they have their own system for adjudicating matters are so
one sided as to be constitutionally suspect and obviously unjust and that columbia university case where you had the woman running around despite the fact that he had been judged not guilty and she was a hero for that. that wasn't so much a fault of the university but it was a problem. this is what we have seen. >> she was taken to the state of the union. >> exactly right. >> great to see you. >> thank you. >> talk about things i thought i would never be discussing. big news out of baltimore where the defense wants this case moved arguing it cannot find an unbiassed jury in the city of baltimore. kevin jackson is here next. new fallout from the viral video showing a college football player punching a woman in the face. see why some folks want the woman to face charges. today we learn bill cosby
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new developments in the case against those six baltimore police officers accused of causing the death of freddie gray. tomorrow the baltimore police will launch an independent review of their handling of the april riots. this comes as "the kelly file" obtains a new defense motion asking for a change of venue in the case arguing these police officers cannot find an unbiassed jury in baltimore. kevin jackson is the executive director a conservative radio host and author of the book "race pimping." do you believe it is true? do you believe baltimore which is a minority/majority city cannot be unbiassed in assessing
the fate of the cops? >> baltimore wants to finish the series at home. the only thing missing is they haven't named the hanging judge just yet. there is no way they can be unbiassed in baltimore. absolutely no way. one thing that they got the people against them but it's a whole other thing when you have the people who are supposed to be defending the police officers who have done the type of things that the prosecutor has done and the mayor has done. they absolutely cannot get a fair case there. >> we saw in ferguson a reluctance for some to speak out publically. behind closed doors they did. they told the doj that man did charge officer wilson. i saw it. these were african-american witnesses testifying against the african-american decedent michael brown in that case. do you think there is a similar
concern that jurors won't feel comfortable finding in favor of the officers lest there be a back lash from the community? >> absolutely. with the grand jury it was behind closed doors so we don't know who those people were in ferguson and hopefully never will because i think they did the right thing. when you have a public trial like this and a lynch mob mentality, sort of a frontier justice and politicians who want to make a name for themselves they see this as a way to the next step in their careers. if i were one of the jurors i wouldn't want to be involved with this and come back with a not guilty verdict. there were so many other inconsistencies. i think if you were a cop standing around looking you got charged with man slaughter. >> the defense in its motion alleges that baltimore citizens and activists have come out and
encouraged citizens to register to vote in order to help convict the officers in the case. they cite the fact that some specifically said the only way we get a conviction is by being represented on juries so there are young people out there right now planning to run massive voter registration campaigns to get that conviction to get what they consider to be just frs freddie gray. >> and that's increddule s. you are talking about a city run by black people. the majority of the people are black. everybody in the food chain of this whole issue is black. so what are you doing? if you are trying to stack the deck it is already stacked. i go back to the anticop sentiment that has been brewing across the nation. there is no way these cops will get a fair shake and the defense is good to move. it's a shocking thing is that baltimore is fighting it. you would think that they would have already exonerated a few of the people because all six of
these people certainly aren't guilty. i have seen some of the forensics and it looks like they may not get the conviction depending upon what happened. you would think in the spirit of fairness let's allow the case to be moved but they are not doing it. >> they think they like their chances in baltimore. >> good to see you. high profile democrats are joining those demanding change after an illegal immigrant with a long record allegedly murdered a young woman in front of her father for no reason at all. our investigation into sanctuary cities. wait until you see what we found, the reversal by the obama administration in a day. is it that the subway restaurant chain has suspended its relationship with jared from subway though he hasn't been charged with a crime. former cable news anchor says the second amendment saved her life from a would-be robber.
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while walking along san francisco pier with her dad. her heart stopped beating as she pleaded with her father to save her life. there are questions about the sanctuary that prevented the man from being deported as he was supposed to be. >> because there is no legal definition of a sanctuary city what it means varies from place to place. immigration and customs says there are states cities and local jurisdictions with policies that help shelter illegal immigrants from being deported. on this map red indicates states that have one or more sanctuary city and while most have decided not to cooperate with federal agents there is confusion on how the feds plan to deal with them. for example, back on march 19 the new director went before
congress and begged for help. listen to her. >> last calendar year state and local jurisdictions rejected more than 12,000 detainer requests convicted criminals. >> would it help you if we clarified the law to make it clear? >> thank you. amen yes. >> amen. but after getting pressure from the aclu one day later made an abrupt about face saying any effort at federal legislation now to mandate state and local law enforcement compliance with detainers will in our view be a highly counter productive step and lead to more resistance and less cooperation in efforts to promote public safety and when the detainer was ignored and released suspected killer francisco sanchez ice said all we are asking is that they
notify when a serious foreign national criminal offender is being released to the streets so we can arrange to take custody. it is unclear if that statement was given an amen. while the san francisco sheriffs stand by the city's sanctuary policy the police union has come out and condemned it. >> turning now with reaction a fox news contributor and former chief presidential speech writer to president george w. bush. let's go through that again. so the head of ice, listen to what she was asked and what she said in march. >> last calendar year state and local jurisdictions rejected more than 12,000 detainer requests. >> would it help you if we clo clarify the law. >> to make it clear the cooperation of those cities
thank you, amen yes. and then the next day she comes out and says any effort at federal legislation to mandate local compliance with ice detainers will be highly counter productive. obviously someone got to her. >> absolutely. what happened is she was called in the carpet because immigration groups and aclu went ballistic and she was forced to recant her statement. this is a problem we have right now is that we have a total collapse of the system that is supposed to protect us from criminal illegal aliens being released at the federal and state level. president obama you will recall he said we will focus on felons not families and criminals not children. what they are doing is two things. the obama administration is releasing every year tens of thousands of criminal aliens into our community and at the
same time they are protecting the now 200 plus cities across the country. that's it because the fault is clearly with san francisco for having the policy in the first place and allowing this guy back out when there was an ice detainer on him which they did not honor. their response is ice knows we don't honor those. that doesn't excuse you for not doing it. the question is what has the obama administration done to hold these sanctuary cities accountable? >> absolutely nothing. the director of ice asked congress to help her. she came to them and pleaded saying the lack of cooperation is increasing. the problem is getting worse. and said amen when they said would you like some authority to crack down on these folks. >> thank you, yes! >> amen. >> and she is sent to the wood shed. we have seen it happen before. we have seen it happen with
dempsey and hagual. this is clear as day and it is on a very controversial issue. this is the woman in charge of ice begging for help and none is provided and she was forced to reverse her position on it. >> it's not just the local community's fault. the federal government is at fault. they are releasing these people and there is a "boston globe" investigation that found they have released hundreds of sexual predators who are criminal aliens so the problem is both at the federal and local level and it's getting worse. >> thank you. >> thanks megyn. a guy, jared from the subway commercials had his house raided by the feds and tonight lost his gig as a spokesman for the restaurant chain. our legal team is next on what is really happening there. and then a big-time college quarterback is caught on camera
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say -- to seduce. the women would say to rape. you say this is no surprise but many people despite the fact that we are in the 40s, over 40 women accused him, have been dismissed as they are out to make a buck accusing him of raping them. you say you are not surprised because you believed them all along? >> i wasn't there so i can't say with certainty that he is guilty but when the number of victims approaches the number of bagels i order at a family brunch you have to start thinking of something. >> how big could it be? the evidence comes out because the judge said i'm going to unseal the documents in this case. here is why. here is the second full screen. not this one, the second one.
this is what the judge says. cosby mounted preverbial soap box to volunteer child rearing education and crime and said he did it so many times he is revealing and let's put up the second full screen that this testimony among others. when you got the qua luds was it in your mind to use them on young women you wanted to have sex with? yes. >> a couple of things going on here. the lawyers for mr. cosby did not have a strong reason why this shouldn't be disclosed. their argument was it is going to be embarrassing to our client and that was the judge's answer to that. putting on my hat as criminal defense attorney or someone defending mr. cosby here my understanding from portions of the transcript is that he was asked did you give it to this person who this lawsuit was about and he said yes and she
took it and we took it together. >> and then asked about others and the lawyer didn't let him answer that question. the lawyer was like real damage is being done here. here we are today. >> that is what a lawyer is supposed to be doing. >> i'm blaming the lawyer for not objecting earlier although i'm glad we know what appears to be the truth about bill cosby. this college quarterback is caught punching a woman in the face. his lawyer goes on the today show and says she hit him first. he claimed she kneed him in the groin and she punched him first. family members of the quarterback are asking that she be charged. >> did he need to strike back when you watch this video tape? that's not the answer. the answer is for him to get the help that he needs to continue
saying what he did was completely wrong, it was criminal no legal justification for it. >> let me ask you this. in the cases where we see women strike men, should assault charges follow? when the woman doesn't hurt the man? >> at least substantial pain so you just hit someone and don't hurt them that's the law. substantial pain. redness, substantial pain. >> let me move on because something bad is happening with jared from subway. >> listen. we don't know. we know that law enforcement is at his house. we know that they are seizing his electronics. i have never met a law enforcement officer who gets promoted based on how many people they let go. my suggestion is that law enforcement believes -- >> somebody in his foundation on
being charged with child pornography but not jared. >> i'm not saying he did anything wrong. however, i believe he didn't consent to them going in and taking the things. they got a warrant based on probable cause that in the probable cause that in that affidavit they're alleging his e-mail received certain images that they believe are child pornography. >> that's not what his lawyers are saying. his lawyers are saying he's cooperating fully. they're under a tremendous nd amount of scrutiny regarding the finances. the person who is running the s foundation is pornography -- it's called due diligence. they have to. it's due diligence. they're doing what they should be doing. >> they're clearing him, arthur?>> >> wind up being so controversial.l. >> who knew jared from subway would be controversial. i got to go. it's over between us. >> okay. >> up next, this story went everywhere. after former cable news anchor
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a long time cable news anchor on the other side of the story tonight. lynn russell said she is alive today because the second amendment saved her life and her husband's during a robbery attempt last week in new hampshire. she -- new mexico. you stop at a hotel. a man approached you as you go out to your car, what happens next? >> well my hands were occupied because i was holding something in both hands. i had my hotel door open. he pushed the door open showed me the gun. tossed me inside slammed the
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