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o' and remember that next week we have the hearings in the senate on the illegal alien violence. if you want to sign the petition bill o' ms. meaganake megyn's up next. breaking tonight, brave members of the u.s. military murdered on american soil. the fib investigating this as an act of terrorism. and we have breaking news right now on reports that put the gunman's father in the middle of a previous terror investigation. welcome to the kelly file. i'm megyn kelly. the morning was shattered by gunshots. around 10:45 eastern time, a man pulled up outside a military recruiting sen testify and opened fire. >> we heard a loud pop. and we saw the silver convertible mustang. and he was just unloading some
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type of rifle. >> he lifted up his arms like this with a big, black gun, and it was one shot and then it was just endless shots, one after another, just unloading. >> inside unarmed military recruiters. prohibited by law in carrying firearms. one marine reportedly wounded. look at the bullet-riddled store front. you can see a sign circled in red. look at this. it reads no guns. not from anyone inside at least. from there, the shooter fled in his car, police in hot pursuit. his next target a navy and marine center miles away. he arrived and once again opened fire. an eyewitness saying she heard what sounded like 100 shots. and when it was all over, four marines were dead. one marine, one female sailor, and one police officer were wounded. here is video of the suspect's car. a u.s. defense official telling us he tried to ram it through
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the reserve center gates. police caught up to him there. the gunman is now dead. authorities are not releasing whether they killed him or whether he took his own life when cornered by law enforcement. here's what we do know about this suspect. his name is moha mid yew sieve abdulazeez. raised in jordan until they moved here. his citizenship has been reported as naturalized american, but it remains unclear whether that's true. in just the last hour we saw reports that his father this is the "new york times" reporting, his father had been under investigation several years ago for possible ties to a foreign terrorist organization. but reportedly the son, mohammed was not on the radar. we also just got these pictures. police storming a house where mohammed is thought to have lived. the police taking several women out in handcuffs. originally we heard two. now we know it may be more than
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two. within hours of the attacks james comey was in the oval office briefing president obama. right now we don't know if there are links here to islamic proper terrorists but the astronomywe have with us pete king. tony shafer and captain pete hegsteph. >> the 24 year old suspect was not on the fbi's radar. this is the kind of case director comey has been warning about. in the 14 years since i've covered this beat, it's significant that within hours of the attack comey was in the oval office, the fbi was in the lead. and the starting point for the investigation is domestic
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terrorism, until the evidence shows otherwise. the next step for the fbi tonight is a drill down on the suspect's network of contacts and a forensic review of his electronics. >> we're going to do an intense look at him to see if what his connections are, look at his friends, family. associates anybody who is associated with him, to determine the cause or the reason why he conducted this attack. >> significant that the shots fired at the recruitment center are clustered, indicating control and rack tis with the weapon. as you mentioned the same shooter opened fire at a second lotion. reporters are told the suspect was heavily armed and with no known connection to the u.s. military. at this hour homeland security is ramping up security at federal facilities. we understand that to be military facilities out of an abundance of caution emphasizing there's no credible threat but, again, there was no
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warning the chattanooga attack was imminent. >> is there any prior indication that there might be an attack today? >> no we had no intelligence indicating there would be any type of an attack today. >> and today counter terrorism organization says there is a celebratory tone on the isis arabic accounts but no evidence yet, that this is connected directly to the shooter. joining me now, peter king. congressman, good to see you tonight. and so first of all, let's start with the reporting by the "new york times," that this suspect's father was placed on a terrorist watch list years ago. they said that he was questioned while on a trip overseas and that he was ultimately removed from that list. have you heard that? would this be something you would have heard by this point in this investigation? >> megyn, i was just talking to my staff. we have not heard that. we've seen the same reports that you've seen.
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but as far as having them confirmed by the fbi or the national counter terrorism center that's going to be a main source of investigation. >> we are also hearing reports by the daily beast that this suspect kept a blog and on that blog there is quite a bit of musings or two postings i should say, two days ago, about islam. i would imagine that any sane person would devote their time to mastering the information on the study guide, a study guide bout with regard to islam. they would do this because they know and have been told that they will be rewarded with pleasures that they have never seen. he goes on to say life is a test designed to separate the inhabitants of paradise from the inhabitants of hellfire. and he goes on to talk bat roleabout
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the roles we need to establish islam in the world. >> it certainly seems that his mind is going in that direction. that alone would not be enough to anticipate an attack but it does show his mind-set. and it also makes it all the more important right now that he be fully investigated. that his computers, his associates his family members, everyone else and also shows megyn, the importance i believe why we have to have surveillance. i think we should have more security at the recruiting stations. they should be armed inside. with all of that, more important than that is to have the intelligence. and now the people at the "new york times," civil liberties union and others say we should be cutting back on surveillance. we have to have surveillance on the muslim community. it's not profiling, it's common sense. and isis is encouraging this >> how significantly have we rolled that back under president obama? >> president obama has been good in some case overseas but not here.
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the restraints jim comey's doing a great job himself, but the whole tone is against any type of they call profiling, what i call good intelligence good surveillance. and the presumption is against, for instance investigating mosques, finding out what's going on in mosques finding out what's going on in different muslim organizations. that's the reality. when they went after the mafia, they went after italian organizations. if you're going after muslim terrorists, you have to go after the muslim community and forget all this nonsense about political correctness and calling it profiling. it's not. it's common sense. >> we don't know whether this suspect was influenced by the islamic state or al qaeda. but the fbi was talking about the threat of young people being radicalized online. watch. >> the pushing this through twitter. so it's no longer the case that someone who's troubled has to go find this motivation.
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it buzzes in their pocket. there is a device, almost deaf ill le on their shoulder all day long saying kill, kill, kill. >> he said i can't stop this in happening. >> he's been tracking over 100 people full time. and they've had about 50 arrests that we have not heard much about. they've disrupted cells. but the isis folks have adapted. the mosques that's a command-and-control center for a lot of these things as well as something called dark web. isis has learned how to use technology rapidly. i'm going to predict that we're going to find that this guy was plugged in. those code words, it was probably in some website, you have to put the numbers in exactly to go to. and some little secret meeting place on the web. that's what they were doing before 9/11. that's what they're doing now. it's human intelligence guys
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and gals sitting undercover online going into chat rooms. we need to get back to doing that. and as peter said we have to go after radical islam. look at the mosques. >> now we don't know for sure whether this is an isis-inspired attack but there in's a lot of circumstantial evidence tonight. ? abs >> absolutely. there's this thing going around called black lives matter. military lives matter. they targeted a father and son last year. father and son air force team online. and we said it's just a matter of time before they break out and start doing things in the real world. nadal hassan. i bought a pistol in virginia. i was, like, escorted off the base rapidly. >> we're going to talk about that. hegsteph is up next. u.s. marines are standing there unarmed, gunned down by some
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punk. i want to ask you this. just in june the islamic state spokesperson released an audio message asking followers during ramadan which ends this weekend, to turn it into a time of calamity for the infidels. and we've been told repeatedly that they want to hit military members. should we be turning some of these so-called soft targets into harder targets? i mean i'm not just talking about just armed military men and women. not in the strip mall. somewhere where they are more protected. >> absolutely. there's this huge facility in northern virginia off post middle of nowhere. it's a big pentagon offshoot not presented by anything a huge target that no one wants to talk b absolutely. secondly you do have to go with the micro level as well. you've got to present individuals. there's no reason for people like me who are retired other others to be armed and be good citizens. and we are at war.
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there's a war now. we need to figure out how to win that war. president obama needs to declare isis an existential threat to the united nations and letstates and do our job. and up next, the doctor talking about harvesting of the organs of aborted fetuses in exchange for payment. members of the military are talking about how this gunman murdered marines at a federal facility where the marines were not allowed to have their guns, but their lives were lost to a mad man with one. and 2016 candidate scott walker is here on how washington is handling this. >> typically someone cannot bring a weapon into federal property unless they're authorized to do so. the kelly file is brought to
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breaking tonight, we just confirmed moments ago that the suspected gunman here that killed four marines and injured several others was shot and killed by law enforcement and did not kill himself. at the same time, a number of folks are asking why america trains some of the best fighters in the world, then puts them in these federal facilities where they are vulnerable, and they
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are unarmed. essentially, sitting ducks for would-be jihadis. here with us now, 2016 presidential candidate scott walker, and also pete hegseth. but we start in chattanooga with the very latest. john? >> reporter: good afternoon to you. just across the amnicola highway, where the marines were shot dead we're going to update you on that information. but it's going to be a long night here at this reserve center the fbi in a convoy of black suburbans brought in a bunch of portable lights. they're going to go at it all night trying to put together the pieces of what happened earlier today. we can fill in a few of the blanks. seven people in total shot. a police officer wounded in the ankle. he was wounded at the reserve facility. a marine slightly wounded in the leg. and the female sailor, according
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to jennifer griffin that sailor is in surgery, said to have very serious wounds and she was shot here at this reserve facility. now let's take a look at some aerials from earlier in the day when the sun was up and you will see what this guy abdoulaye abdulazeez had to do to get in here. he had to get up enough speed to smash through that gate that was wrapped around the front of his car which he then either backed away from or by sheer force of momentum it fell off the front of the car and that's when he opened fire. let's take you back to the recruiting center. the number of bullets that were fired through that front window the brass that was very very close. he had to be feet away from that. look at that almost rining a sign that says no firearms inside. that's because a 1992 directive that was written by george h.w. bush's administration and signed during the clinton
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administration severely limited carrying firearms in military offices and bases. september when except when there is a reasonable expectation that life or d.o.d. assets will be jeopardized if firearms are not carried. i think a lot of people will be reexamining that clause in the light of what happened today. >> pete heg seth, good to see you. they're sitting ducks. preparing for the show today. i saw a dozen warnings about the threat to military centers and yet there they stood, marines unarmed. >> unarmed. you know this radical islamic scumbag is rotting in hell somewhere as this nation reveres these marines who gave their lives for this country. we are at war. islamics are at war with us. this must reignite whether we
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will arm those people in those facilities. the guy who shot at them says he wants to establish islam around world. and our intelligence have told us as the fbi director said it last week, if we are not willing to arm these guys, they will be sitting ducks, i believe this will reignite a national debate. all of those places in gun-free zones. >> reporter: military members are not able to fight back if in the immediate response. >> the warnings are all over the place about the threat to military facilities, including the fbi, dhs, the national counter terrorism center, be vigilant vigilant. you could be targeted and so on. that goes out there. then on top of that, we know that they're planning on hitting during ramadan, which is right now. >> right now. ? >> then on top of that you have the fbi director saying i'm
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overwhelmed. i can't stop it. >> we are stopping these things right now through tremendous hard work the use of online undercovers, but it is incredibly difficult. i cannot see me stopping these indefinitely. >> and still no one thought to say, what should we do at our military centers right now. >> incredibly prophetic and tragic. these threats don't trickle down to these recruiters and the ability to arm them in the near term. it's the intelligence the ability to lean forward to identify these threats. clearly we're being overwhelmed by what isis is doing on social might yeah. that marine needs to be armed in the moment. right now they cannot. >> what is the thinking? this is passed under george h.w. bush. what is the thinking? that we can't trust military members to handle firearms?
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>> it's not trust. it an a paternal instinct. i was a first line leader and commander. there's a safety umbrella. they don't want these guys having their own personal firearms. i understand some of the reasons why. those reasons are long gone. we are at war. this threat exists. think about national guard armories that i was a part of in minnesota or elsewhere. these are unguarded, wide open, with military mens right inside without the ability to defend themselves they're sitting ducks, and isis knows that right now. >> one of the dead is a decorated war hero with more than one purple hearts. >> two purple heart the. >> this is someone who could have defended himself. and they are enhancing security at recruiting stations. sgh >> it's only temporary. in a minute one of the leading gop candidates scott
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. we know that what appears to be a lone gunman carried out these attacks. we've identified a name. and at this point, a full investigation is taking place. the fbi will be in the lead, working closely with local law enforcement. >> back now to our breaking news on what is being called a domestic terror attack. in chattanooga, tennessee. that was reaction from president obama just a couple hours after we learned that four marines had been killed and four others, including a police officer, sailor and another marine were injured in an assault on two military facilities. joining me now, wisconsin
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governor and newly declared presidential candidate. he errs on the side of down-playing the lone gunman and the underwear bomber was called an isolated extremist, and benghazi where he failed to call it a terrorist hayattack. >> we need to pray for the three that have been shot for full recovery. but we have to acknowledge even without knowing all the details in this instance, we need to acknowledge that we're at war, and radical islamic terrorism is our enemy. it's not just enough to have containment anymore. you talk about the policies that prohibited our military personnel from being armed at an establishment like this, those are outdated. containment was something that might have been today during the cold war, but we're facing an enemy in radical islamic terrorism that's willing to take the fight to us.
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we need to make sure our men and women have the ability to keep us safe and them sechlves safe. >> when you listen to comey saying i'm trying, but i can't do it. what more could we be doing, should we be doing here domestically to help the fbi, once these people get here from unleashing hell? >> that's a response that's absolutely unacceptable. our primary responsibility at the federal government level shouldn't be in all these other programs and services we provide. it should be to present our national security interests, to keep us safe and sound in america. >> how? >> i was one of the people who spoke up and said we should have reauthorized the patriot act. i think we should have the resources there. this is worth reexamining. we need resources to make sure that we can actually protect, not just the men and women in uniform but americans here.
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we are under threat, again, this is like a virus. and if we don't take it out completely it's going to keep coming back and attacking us. >> i want to shift gears because this video from planned parenthood has made national news and this so-called doctor on there talking about she crushes the body parts of fetuses and talking about what she got in her harvest. you came under fire in wisconsin for man dating ultrasounds. >> when i became governor, i defunded planned parenthood. i took some attacks from some of the media and the left. but this is a prime exam. pl. we've outlawed that in wisconsin in the past. we need to be defunding planned parenthood not only state by state but across the country and
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put resources into non-controversial entities. >> the challenges to that is planned parenthood, controversial as it is, helps a lot of women get birth control and prevent unwanted pregnancies which would result in abortion. >> but in our state, we put the monday knee other entities. we put it in the county public health services so there are other, non-controversial ways to can help women's health but not do it in a way that aligns with planned parenthood. this is another example why defunding them is so important. >> governor welcome to the race. good to see you here officially. we'll talk more. >> look forward to seeing you in person. thank you. we'll learn what that planned parenthood doctor had to say. should she be fired? and if she is not, what does it say about planned parenthood? plus we'll show you how her
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boss is defend being this. and then we'll take a look at how harvesting body parts is somehow key to research. ben carson joins us next on that. while dr. charles krauthammer talks about the politics of this when we come back. >> you know, i can throw a number out. i would say anywhere from $30 to $100. real cheese poeple don't eat pasteurized, processed cheese food. it's only
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fetuses. a hidden camera reporting was released as dr. deborah nukatola. she's been seen having lunch with actors posing as buyers, and they are acting about obtaining aborted fetus body parts. today the president of planned parenthood defended her organization. but first a little of the hidden camera video. >> how much of a difference can it make if you know what's expected or what we need. >> it makes a huge difference. a lot of people want liver. and for that reason providers will do this case under ultrasound guidance so they'll know where they're putting their
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thereforetheir foreceps. then you are just kind of cognizant of where you put your graspers. i'm going to go an a little above, a little below. and in general, some people will try to of change the presentation so that it's not vertex. if you do it starting from the
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brooech presentation as i said, always as many in tact livers. >> hmm. planned parenthood's first reaction was to attack the folks who made the video. then they argued well, they weren't doing anything illegal. now they are defending the work they do but acknowledging the tape looks bad. here's president cecille richards. >> our top priority is a compassionate care that we provide. in the video, one of our staff members speaks in a way that does not reflect that compassion. this is unacceptable and i personally apologize for the staff member's tone and statements. statements. >> here now is charles krauthammer, author of the book "things that matter" along with
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presidential candidate ben carson. she is sorry for that employee's tone. and that's really it. does that get it done? >> well it doesn't get it done if there was an illegality here. there was an exchange of money, but i think she gave a lot more than she intended by talking about the lack of compassion. i think what the pro-abortion side does not understand is that when you deal with this on a constant basis, there is a callousness that develops about human life the integrity of the human body and that's been one of the arguments of the folks who object to abortion. it's not we're going to have a constant argument over is this a person or not, when does personhood begin, at conception or not and that is something that we are not going to resolve. the country's divided on that. but i think we can agree that if
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you treat a fetus like an appendix or just a piece of tissue, crushing it here and there, so you can preserve the liver. if you treat it as something not -- let's not say as person, but even as something deserving of respect, more than just a piece of tissue you develop a callousness that i think is what sort of indicts them. and you can see it right in the video. and it would be nice if the pro-abortion people would say look, out of compassion for the woman and the crisis and all this we don't want to see the return to the back room, we want to allow abortion. well that's an argument. but they ought to concede that this is not like an apendent any. there is something different about ending the life of a fetus, and that is something unless conceded gives us the direct result the kind of
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callousness and lack of compassion that even the head of planned parenthood had to admit. >> only when she was forced to. because she got hit from the left too. even some on the left said no no. we may be pro-choice. we don't align ourselves with that woman who heads up your abortion practice and still does. this doctor nukatela hasn't been fired. she hasn't been demoted from her position and yet she's on the tape, charles, talking about how just today i did a 17 weakerek 17 weeker. it can suck its thumb, the ultrasound video makes it very clear that it is at minimum a potential life, and yet there's no -- here's video. this is a 17-weeker. there's no sensitivity of a very controversial procedure. >> look a decade ago i was on the president's council of bioet
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ib bioethics. and stem cells, are of allowed to take a tiny embryo and destroy if in order to grow stem cells and help other people. there was division on this but the one thing that all sides agreed was if you're going to do it perhaps, but not beyond two weeks. after 14 days you do not tear apart an embryo to use as a means to serve the end of another human being, even though it could be a good end. so here we are now at 17 weeks, and we're talking about this. the problem has always been the slippery slope. wruns once you allow yourself to go through a boundary and to go into a situation where you have, as you say, a fetus that has a
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lot ofcharacteristics like an adult or an infant you have to ask yourself, is this worthy of no respect? is this just a piece of tissue or is this something that doesn't deserve all the protections, but still it deserves something? >> charles, thank you. >> my pleasure. >> well planned parenthood defenders say harvesting these organs is key to research. pediatric neurosurgeon and presidential candidate dr. ben carson has some thoughts on that. he's next. >> when i first saw it, i thought it was a hoax. and then i came to realize that that was actually real that we have sunk to that level of bash rich. ♪ am i the only one with a meeting?
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s like people wanted lungs. >> yeah, liver is huge right now. >> mm. the eating and the wine drinking. it's just oh, disturbing. and that's part of video we have been discussing with that planned parenthood dr. no sooner had it been released than many
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rushed to defend the doctor arguing the harvest of fetal organs is all for a good cause. here's one example. >> there's first this shock that people hear when they hear that organs are being extracted for research. as you hear about the importance of the research this undercover is in some ways a blessing. >> is it? dr. ben carson is professor emeritus of neurosurgery. he was thank you for being with us. those fetal organs are going for a good use, your take on that. >> well, you know it's been overpromised what the benefits of fetal research would be. and very much underdelivered.
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and if you go back over the years and look at the research that has been done and all the things that it was supposed to deliver, very little that has been done and there's nothing that can't be done without fetal tissue. so it's a spurious argument, but, you know, what's really disturbing is the fact that we have become so callous that a lot of people don't even realize that this is shocking. to see the callousness, which we are treating human life. it's interesting that there are so many people who are concerned about snail darters and little spiders and things and yet, the human being inside of that mother's womb just beyond, you know 10 weeks, is much more sophisticated than many of these creatures that they're trying to preserve. and we've created a dichotomy in what should be an almost sacred relationship between a mother and that baby.
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and a mother is a protector of that baby. and we've distorted things to the point where people believe that if the mother can't kill the baby than anybody who's advocating that is an enemy of women. how can we be so foolish as to believe such a thing? >> and yet the argument on the other side is she's aborting fetuses, okay to use the least controversial term. she's aborting fetuses. what is worse, like is it worse that she's taking their organs and trying to do medical research? is the, like why? what is it that's so controversial about this tape? we knew that she was aborting fetuses. >> well, i think the thing that's really controversial about it is that it's sort of like taking a cold fish and slapping you in the face when you're falling asleep. and you begin to recognize how far we have drifted in terms of
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our humanity. and a little developing baby is just an incredible sight to behold. you know now that we have very good ultrasound techniques, even have the ability to endoscopic endoscopically look at these things. >> this is a 17 weeker. >> you have a nice little nose and fingers and hands, and the heart's beating and it can respond to environmental stimulus. how can you just believe that that's an irrelevant mass of cells? and that's what they want you to believe, when in fact it is a human being. >> dr. carson, thank you so much for being here. we appreciate it tonight. >> always a pleasure. thank you. >> we're taking your thoughts. kelly file. we'd love to hear from pro-choice people too with their thoughts on it.
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breaking tonight, new details. members of the u.s. military murdered here on american soil in an attack being investigated as terrorism. four marines killed. three others including a police officer wounded. the go suspected shooter is dead. he's been identified as muhammad youssef abdulazeez. he fired at least 30 time in the first location and we saw reports that his father was under investigation for possible ties to a foreign terror organization but was later
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cleared. we also received these pictures. police storming a house where muhammad is thought to have lived. the police taking several women out in handcuffs. we are learning that several of the members of the group that was killed had serve in the fallujah years ago. they go to fallujah they capture that city they defend it ultimately it is lost to isis. they return to america soil and lose their lives here. also the verdict is in on the horrific aurora shooting trial. the gunman who killed 12 people and injured 70 others at a midnight shooting of the dark knight rises, guilty. that's two counts for each his 12 victims. joining me now, the new york trial attorney fox news legal analyst. so they reached the right results. >> yes. they reached the right results. >> they didn't guy insanity defense. >> and it very rarely works. and i just want to compliment
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you for covering this story. it has gotten a little lost in the shuffle. this happened before the sandy hook all those cases happened. this happened before the charleston twrb bombing. this was first time a mass murderer came in where you and i go all the time with our families. he wiped everyone out. the only issue i have fundamentally with the language is how could anyone look someone in the eyes and say this guy isn't insane. >> the legal definition of insanity was not reached. what happens now? >> on monday the judge is giving a little break. on monday the 12 jurors and i really feel for them it is never easy to sentence someone to death. they'll their prosecutors say all the aggravating reasons he should be put to death by lethal injection. and the defense will talk about the reasons why he should not. his age, the experts and all that. there may an video played of the victims' families everyone who
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lost loved ones. and 70 people are alive. >> it is and up to the jury. >> it has to be unanimous verdict. life without parole or the death penalty and official they can't decide, if it is a hung jury, the judge sentenced them to life without parole. >> what an end. >> yeah. 250 witnesses, ten weeks. it was huge. >> the prosecutor did a great job. very eloquent. very strong. >> we'll be right back. how's it progressing with the prisoner? he'll tell us everything he knows very shortly, sir. as you were... where were we? 13 serving 14! service! if your boss stops by, you act like you're working. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. ♪ we all feel the calling to build
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dead served with great honor and called it heart breaking. the families have already given a lot to this country and now this. those families need our prayers and they have them. thanks for watching. i'm megain' kelly. in our prayers indeed. thank you. this is a fox news alert. the man identified as muhammad abdulazeez. be just moments ago the governor addressed the situation. >> this has obviously been a horrible day for chattanooga and a tragic day for all of tennessee and i wanted to be here to express my sorrow and sympathy for the families and everyone else involved. tennessee and chattanooga reacted the way i thought they would. with an outpouring of love and support and the law enforcement officials are saying i don't know where we've been anywhere to see a community just rally