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president obama said the dead served with great honor and called it heart breaking. the families have already given a lot to this country and now this. those families need our prayers and they have them. thanks for watching. i'm megain' kelly. in our prayers indeed. thank you. this is a fox news alert. the man identified as muhammad abdulazeez. be just moments ago the governor addressed the situation. >> this has obviously been a horrible day for chattanooga and a tragic day for all of tennessee and i wanted to be here to express my sorrow and sympathy for the families and everyone else involved. tennessee and chattanooga reacted the way i thought they would. with an outpouring of love and support and the law enforcement officials are saying i don't know where we've been anywhere to see a community just rally so
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quickly to the tragedy that we've had. >> he reportedly killed four marines and injured three others. authorities are still investigating with potential connections to. officials say the suspect was not on the fbi's radar before today's rampage. but breaking tonight, the alleged shooter's father was in fact investigated several years ago for possible terror ties. joining us on the ground in chattanooga, tennessee, our own john roberts. what do you know about that? >> reporter: good evening to you. a pumt at least a tow truck has pulled out in front of the reserve center. they may be going in to pick up the suspect's vehicle. that's what you can assume by. that it will be a long night for fbi investigators. they are inside the compound. they will be going through the forensics. we're told the fbi command center in knoxville is still up
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and running. four dead. they were marines. a police officer wounded in the ankle. a marine slightly injured in the leg and a female sailor we're will was pretty seriously injured. she was undergoing surgery. take a look at the aerial pictures from earlier today. this is anbdulazeez' car. towed sneak through barriers to get up enough speed to smash through the gate in front of that facility. it. you can see it bent and twisted there in front of the car. that's where he allegedly opened fire according to officials. he shot from the parking lot at that recruiting center earlier in the day. now, in that recruiting central, take a look at the bullet holes through the window. and the bullet holes surrounding a sign that says no firearms inside. that's because a 1992 directive from february of 1992 that was enacted in 1993 when president clinton took office severely limits the presence of firearm
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in military facilities including recruiting facilities. however, there are some provisions in that directive that allow weapons to be held on military facilities. one is for law enforcement purposes. the other is, quote, when there is a reasonable expectation that life or d.o.d. assets will be jeopardize jeopardized. here's one we saw earlier. a marine in dress blues came up to the area where police had it cordoned off. a folded up flag being a tribute to the four marines. >> and joining us live from washington with much more on any connection this attack has to home grown terror or perhaps radical islamic terror. >> we are working at this hour to confirm the report from the new york times that the suspect's father had been the subject of a terrorism investigation. an unspecified number of years ago. but it was eventually band only and nothing was turned up.
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in the 14 years i've covered this beat it is significant within the hours of the attack the fbi director james comey was in the oval office briefing the president. the fbi was in the lead. and the starting point for the investigation is domestic terrorism. until evidence shows otherwise. >> does that rule out any link to isis maybe? >> no. we are looking at every possible avenue. terrorism, domestic international or whether it was a simple criminal act. >> only the the homeland security secretary said in a statement that security is being ramped up at federal facilities out of an bundleance of caution, add go there is no credible threat at this time but again, there was no warning the chattanooga attack was imminent. >> we had no intelligence there would be any type of attack
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today. >> the 24-year-old suspect was not on the fbi's radar. this is the kind of case the fbi director has been specifically warning about. >> that i know we have not been able to confirm this yet but there are reports out there about a blog that this suspect i guess we have to call him at this point in this case had and he had two specific postings. both talked about islam. back on july 13 the two postings coming on the very same day. what do we know about that? what are we looking into? >> it appears from our reporting the first group to identify the blog was the institute, a group that tracks jihadist traffic and communications online. if in fact it is the suspect in the case investigators will take will be taking a hard look at his statements to try on understand his frame of mind. also in light of what they find on their forensic review which will be the phones as well as
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the computers. i wouldn't want to get too far ahead except to say we have a suspect and it is someone of interest to the fbi but not someone on the radar before this terrible attack took place. >> all right. in washington only the, thank you. joining us now from washington with much more information is our own jennifer griffin. >> here's what we know about muhammad youssef abdulazeez. he was 24 years old. born in kuwait in 1990. ironically the same year the u.s. came to the defense of kuwait after saddam hussein invaded. he lived with his parents and attend red bank high school in chattanooga. he was on the wrestling team and his coach has described him as a miss the observant muslim. in his senior year book there is some clue about his state of mind. he wrote, my name causes national security alerts. what does yours do? he signed it hajib man. also of note he was arrested
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for a dui in april. somewhat surprising for a devout muslim. according to law enforcement, he does not have a military back ground. he worked as an intern at the tennessee valley authority five years ago and attended college at chattanooga state. he studied electrical engineering. we're also learning more about the marines who were killed. one of them was a, quote, decorated war hero with two purple hearts. the youngest was a lance corporal artillery, just 19 years old of all were reservists in an artillery unit. part of the third battalion, 14 regiment of the marine reserves. in addition three people were injured. one marine and one officer and one female was there and she is snil surgery. the shooting happened at 10:50 this morning. twif to 30 shots were fired at a recruiting center. the victims crawled on the floor and escaped out the back door. they say they chased the shooter to a second location seven miles
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away. a marine reserve center. the car rammed the gate but there were no armed guards at the facility. the four marines were outside andunarmed. >> we know he was a wrestler and later tried his hand at mma wrestling. they said he was very religious and would argue back and forthwith the high school wrestling coach during fasting rituals. do we glean anything from that? do we glean anything from the new york time report that his father perhaps, was being looked into having radical views? >> there are two separate issues. tomorrow night is the end of ramadan and is significant for muslims to carry out so-called jihad during ramadan. there is a belief they'll go straight to heaven and certain things follow. i believe that all of the reports from his friends and coaches is that yes, he was an observant muslim.
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that didn't necessarily indicate any sort of violent behavior. the post in his year book was a tongue in cheek question. it wasn't necessarily an angry question. so i think right now, the fbi will be looking at all of this. who was he in contact with online? i'm sure there is an incredible forensic trail online in material of chat room activity and other signs. certainly this report by "the new york times," that his father was on a watch list at one point and then was taken off of it. all of that has to be investigated. >> in washington thank you. joining us on the ground in tennessee. a report he for the chat chapter free press. joy, i see that your numb has put out pretty much everything you've been able to find out about this young man. what can you tell us? >> well we have been able to determine that he went to one of our local high schools. red bank high. and that he went graduated from
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utc. that's the university of tennessee at chattanooga. with an engineering degree in 2012. we've had that confirmed. and a lot of his classmates. that he was a really likable, a popular guy. nobody suspected anything like this. >> do you know anything about the blog that had been reported? >> reporter: no i do not. >> i know that you guys also chronicled a little of his time in high school and you spoke to the coach, spoke to some of the fellow wrestlers. what did you learn from that? >> we learned that he was a very very serious about his work. he was very serious about wrestling. i had talked to several people that said that they loved him. that they really enjoyed him. he was a popular person. that he always people just really enjoyed him and they just i've had several people call me in shock.
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they just don't understand how he could have done this. >> yeah. i understand. we had our own report that he was born in kuwait. do we know if he was an american citizen? >> we have not been able to confirm that yet. we know that his family lived, owned a home. they were middle class, nice middle class family and they owned a home. we have not been able to confirm that. what do we know about the dui arrest in april of this year? >> reporter: we've been able to confirm that he was arrested for that but that's all we know about that. >> do we know anything about how he reacted while being arrested? any the law enforcement tips on that? >> we know that he was shot. we don't know exactly the circumstances surrounding how he was shot. no. >> abdulazeez' father youssef was appointed a special policeman in the chattanooga department of public works.
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correct? >> reporter: yes. the public works department they have a certain number of officers that are unarmed. deputized. he was likely at one of our, at the local sanitary plan where they normally station unarmed officers. and he also worked for the public works department. we've been able to confirm that. >> tell us about him and the work he did for the city. >> reporter: the people i've spoken to say he was a really hard worker and really proud of his work. nobody had anything bad to say about him. >> we know that all we know is that he worked for the public works department. and that he was able to -- yeah. >> would he in that department have access to the public water
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of the city? >> reporter: i don't know. he could have. thank you. i appreciate your time. >> joining me on the phone, someone who witnessed the deadly shooting. erica wright. thank you for being with us. our thoughts and prayers doing with the people of chattanooga and all of tennessee. tell us what you saw. >> yes. we were in the salon working two doors down from the army/navy recruiting center. we heard one loud pop. and it sounded like a car back firing or something like that. so we went to the door in the front windows to see what it was. and when we got to the windows, we looked down the walkway and saw that he was right beside the naval recruiting place, just shooting. in a silver convertible mustang, just unloading a large black gun.
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>> was this the first shooting or the second shooting? and is this where he lost his life? >> as far as i know this was the first shooting. he went to amnicola after he left the location beside my job. >> so you see him and you see that he was firing all these bullets. you came out. i assume you probably ducked for cover, right? immediately after you saw that he left, what did you do? >> well, he with didn't come outside. we just looked out the window. when we saw that someone was shooting we headed toward the back of the salon. grabbing our cell phones so we could call 911 and about the time we got to the very back of the salon, the shooting stopped. and he was leaving the parking lot, hit it down 153, assuming toward amnicola. >> we really appreciate you sharing that story with us. a very sad day for everybody there. our thoughts and prayers with the families of these four brave marines and those injured as
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well. when we come back, new information on the shooting in tennessee. and later, geraldo rivera is on the ground in mexico as the hunt for el chapo tipscontinues. he went inside the actual tunnel that he escaped from. ♪ have you ever thought, "i could never do that"? have you ever thought...
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. he was unloading a rifle. >> it was a regular day. he just pulled up i didn't think anything of it. he looked to the side. next thing you know, he lifted up his arm like this with a big black gun. it was just in the shot. one after another. just unloading into the army.
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>> chattanooga, tennessee reeling tonight. joining us on the ground with the very latest jen, walk us through the day. walk us through the new development this hour. >> reporter: we are getting to get new details on muhammad youssef abdulazeez. they first to have prove that some sort of political organization is associated with him or he had political motives. looking at his google search anything he might have typed in his e-mail. we are standing outside the reserve center. this is where it all ended. this is where someone shot abdulazeez. police have not been clear about the circumstances surrounding his death. this all started across town at the marine reserve center.
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10:45 this morning, he continued his rampage here injuring three people and an officer. we due. do understand the officer and the three civilians will be okay. and we know abdulazeez lived just across the river in chattanooga. a few minutes from here. we know he was born in kuwait and we did a criminal back ground check on him in the state of tennessee. the only thing on his record is a dui from april. and in tennessee, that's a misdemeanor. that's not a felony. so the fbi, he has been on their radar until now. back to you. >> i want to ask you real quickly, what do you know about the new york time report about the father and he could have been on a watch list a number of years ago? everything that we read every person that came into contact with abdulazeez said he was very religious and would fast and argue with his wrestling coach. then this unconfirmed reports about the blog that might have indicated that he has some radical islamic belief systems. what do we know about the
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father? >> reporter: that's a valid point. we are still looking into his father. there are a lot of circumstances. it is not clear if he was motivated himself or his father had somewhat of an influence. we have another, we are reaching out to family members and we are working on getting more details on that family association. if there is any other motivation behind the shooting. >> all right. thank you for being with us as we continue. earlier, about a week ago, we know that the fbi director james comey said he cannot stop isis-inspired attacks against our military indefinitely. watch this. >> isil says go kill go kill of here's a list of military members you can go kill. go do it. we are stopping these things so far through tremendous hard work the use of sources, online undercovers. but it is incredibly difficult. i cannot see me stopping these indefinitely.
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>> so how safe are you? the american people? joining us now, the fbi assistant director former innocent detective bo dietl and manny gomez is with us. manny, i'm will noting to james comey saying i can't stop this indefinitely. that was a week ago. >> well he is being honest. statistically isis is recruiting an average of 50 people a day. the message is pretty simple. come join us overseas and fight with us. if you can't do that simply go out, kill cops kill military by any means necessary, improvised explosive devices, firearms a hatchet and the message is obviously resonating with the youth of our country. >> ron, you're a former, what? special assistant director of the fbi. i would like to think and i think the american people would like to think the filibuster has a handle on this and a week ago, they're saying they do not have a handle on this in any way,
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shape, matter or form. what can you tell the person people about their specific safety? >> well i think, sean the american people need to be concerned and need to be alert. the fbi director has been warning this sort of thing for weeks now, if not months. this threat is far different than the threat of al qaeda 10 or 12 years ago. if you use the hockey analogy, al qaeda was working with a very big puck and they would pass it back and forth to each other before they tried to score. the big puck was the grand yoss the big strike on america. an airliner strike or a bridge a tunnel. here you have people who are going to just put shots on goal. isis is looking for anyone who will listen to their message and move to action to fire. to take action against the military against law enforcement.
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and the other thing the director is warning about is this notion of going dark. because of technology advances today, the fbi is hearing and seeing less and less and less because of encryption technology. >> all right. bo it is unconfirmed at this point. there is a possibility that he may have telegraphed this in materials of his radicalism. if that turns out to be the case that would follow a pat person we also have. you have radical sympathizers telegraphing their radical views and we don't catch it. >> if you remember back to the fourth of july. we were on your show. we talked about the threat. about ramadan and they were talking about attack and it came and it went and everybody forgot about it. i think this should be a wake-up call in america. if people believed the fbi is monitoring any portion of this. the tip of the iceberg. there are so many others in this country that the fbi, it cannot
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monitor it. these people here that you see like what happened today. this is guy who was sitting back. he wanted to do something for ramadan to get to the that 72 virgins, luxury that he had never seen before. this is what they believe. they're psycho path bik this. we have to wake up america wefl to give up our freedom. you can't listen to my phones. you have to give up some of your freedom to have safety. and this is now a wake-up call for america. this is the beginning. >> let me tell you how bad this is. i have numbers. for the last seven years, leading town february 1, 2015. domestic foiled terror attacks occurred on average, get this every 34 days. that's a lot. >> i don't want to be the -- i get e-mails when i do your show saying you're trying to scare everybody. yeah. i'm trying to scare everybody into preparing themselves. put armament around our military
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bases. let them carry their firearms. let them have m-16s. we have them in penn station with our national guard. we have to realize. we're at war with isis. and this president should wake up. >> i'll get to that in a second. this is an important point. this is our military. >> and you say they can't carry guns? >> these are gun-free zones. we're going to send them off to war but we don't have the confidence to allow them to have weapons? on their own bases? or recruiting areas? that makes zero sense. it might have saved marines' lives today. >> and it was a video on one of the fox stations like this afternoon. they showed an aerial view with two marines laying there dead. when i saw that and they were unarmed. and my heart went out. they had their khakis on and they were unarmed. >> at the very least, give them a fighting chance. >> 100% having served in the united states marine corps
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myself. i totally agree. these men need to have some protection at this juncture. they're being targeted. isis is saying go out and kill u.s. servicemen wherever they are. this law enforcement 1992 was there for a reason. it is outdated. the new norm now is that people are being radicalized, daily, weekly monthly, the fbi as good as they have been and they have been exceptional in identifying, investigating, neutralizing and arresting numerous attackers, it like emptying the ocean on to the beach. >> there's another problem here. you're in the business of law enforcement. you're an assistant director for the fbi. every law enforcement person that i know ron, they're involved in some level of profiling. we have a president that to this day, our government's official take on what happened with major
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hassan was workplace violence as he was screaming. are not we making a critical mistake that we have this unnatural mysterious reluctance resistance. almost petrified fear of identifying the enemy. he won't say radical islam. isn't that a mistake? >> i think it is tricky ground. >> major hassan was screaming. that's the official position to this day. there is dishonesty here that the read that is afraid to identify our enemies that are sworn on killing military men in recruiting stations. military men that are not allowed to defend themselves.
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>> i don't disagree. i think there is a piece of dishonesty. i know this coming from the fbi. they are very cautious in how they approach their introduction to religion religion institutions and other inls constitution because of the criticisms of overreaching. >> knowing what isis has called for, lone wolf attacks against american military and then you find out the guy's name is muhammad youssef abdulazeez. is it not natural to say, wait a minute. was this guy inspired by isis? or is that profiling in a negative way? is that somehow islamic phobic? >> i think we have to ask this question. let's say he had not committed this act and he is -- >> fair enough. >> but it would be a good starting point. yes or no. >> years ago, when you would stop a car. you would get a feeling as a detective or a cop you would stop aer california you reached under the seat.
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you come up with it. i saw the handle there. >> what is that? >> that means that under the law, that would not be a legal search. it would get thrown out. my point is we're at war. look what this guy looks like. he looks like the guy who works at 7-eleven. he looks like a guy who would bombsomeplace. >> you are not allowed to say that. we're following new information about the possible motive of the gunman who killed four brave marines in tennessee. also only the, geraldo rivera on the ground in mexico and he got into the tunnel where drug kingpin el chapo escaped from.
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today is a nightmare for the city of chat noog. a around 11:00 this morning, we had someone viciously attack at
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two different locations people who proudly serve our country. >> this is a sad day for the united states. these service members served their country with pride and they have been the victims of these shootings. we are conducting this as an act of domestic terrorism. >> we are looking at every possible avenue. terrorism, domestic international or a criminal act. >> that was a press conference from earlier today where officials announced the shooting sare currently being investigated as an act of terror. we continue now with ron, the former detective. >> the president won't acknowledge nadal hasan. he regularly fails to do this. my question is have we gone
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overboard in political correctness, impedeing law enforcement? >> it is and i'll tell you why. until we call it what it is we can't fight it. we're at war with them. we need a media campaign to counter their media campaign. we need to motivate and get our people to act as force multipliers to be the eyes and ears of law enforcement. when they see something unusual like this guy running around call the fbi. call the local cops. >> in 2007 they did a great report about home grown muslim terrorists. and it was a report under ray kelly's watch. and they fought it. the muslim community fought report. that talked about getting these people online. turning them into these terrorists here in america. the fact of the matter is it was the truth and it is coming to fruition and i'm going to say it. i don't want to scare the audience but this is the beginning of it. and i'll telling you, it will
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start and it will continue. >> let me go to you. do you agree? is that just the beginning? will we see more and more? are we making a mistake by being too politically correct as it relates to standards practices. what used to be standards in materials of profiling. >> i think we need to call this what it is. and i think we need to move past the label. get to the fight. i agree. we were at war with isis. they have declares war on us as a free people. but at the same time we need to be cautious tonight alienate good religious muslims around our country who are trying to integrate into our society, who are part of our society. we need them on our team. we need to be smart about how we do it. >> thank you all for being with us. >> we stopped the journal covers in new york. we stopped the undercovers. this is going on happen more and
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more. we have to crank it up. >> coming up we'll have president obama's so-called reaction to today's shooting. plus does the mexican government really want to find the drug kingpin el chapo? the geraldo got inside the tunnel.
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we don't know yet all the details. we know that what appears to be a lone gunman carried out these attacks. we've identified a name. and at this point, a full investigation is taking place. we take all shootings very seriously. obviously when you have an attack on a u.s. military facility then we have to make sure that we have all the information necessary to make an assessment in terms of how this attack took place and what further precautions we go take in the future.
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>> that was the president from the white house earlier today responding to the deadly attack in chattanooga, tennessee. joining me now, the director of jihad watch. richard is back with us. rob, let me ask you about a report that you put out today. and i think you were quoting the associated press if i'm not mistaken about a potential islamic state tweet warning about the attack and that it was posted at 10:34. that turned out not to be true? >> it was a genuine tweet. it seems that it came from the pacific time zone. so it was almost certainly posted after the attack and not during or before. so the initial reports were inaccurate about that. the larger question in this remains. the fact that last september, the islamic state put out an explicit call for attacks on military personnel in western countries and that call was heed in the canada in france just
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this past week and elsewhere around the world. so the investigators i think would be seriously remiss if they didn't look for some islamic state connection. whether the shooter here was inspired or explicitly directs. at this point it is a distinction without a difference. the islamic state wants military men to be attacked in western countries. this was an attack on military men in western countries. >> richard, i think in many ways robert is right. we live in a very politically correct world. you look at the circumstances here. the call by isis to attack military installations. it seems to be at least the number one thing i would be at. your thoughts. >> absolutely. against those who worn against the dangers of profiling, you have to ask the question. why is it that so few of these killers seem to be named after roman catholic saints? there is a connection here. we know from the ft. hood shooting and similar shootings
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that often there is direction. out of al qaeda in yemen or other were radical groups. certainly i think investigators will be looking at his e-mails and other electronic communities. it is also instructive that the two blog posts he's ever posted both refer from islam from a very radical perspective. the other thing is the videos of these facilities over the past week. often these attacks are reversed days in advance and it is possible that there's video of him reversing this attack. there may be a passenger in the car and i would appointment them in the direction of accomplices. >> when we come back, a "hannity" exclusive. el chapo is still on the run. geraldo rivera got inside the tunnel today. ♪ your body was made for better things than the pain, stiffness and joint damage
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mexican authorities have amped up the efforts. joining us now live from mexico senior correspondent, our own geraldo rivera. >> reporter: good evening from the sprawling capital of mexico a city and a country that has been destabilized by this brazen this extraordinary escape. before i get to it though if you would permit me, i must single my deepest condolences to the families of those four slain marines. to think they made it through at the hands of a sunni muslim extremist wannabe. it is almost more than the nation can bear. my deepest condolences. this nation mexico is reeling from this brazen and extraordinary escape by el chapo. there is a feeling that ranges between humiliation over the
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tunnelling, then they dug a shaft down about 15 feet to a level at the exit point there. they installed a gigantic generator providing ventilation, air conditioning and lighting for that massive, mile-long tunnel. from that intermediate level you go down to the main tunnel level three stories underground. there you find a railed system that is in it's own way, an engineering marvel. they have these little rail cars two of them attached to a third rail car propelled by an old motorcycle used to transport the dirt as the workmen would fill bucket after bucket wheel barrel after wheel barrel of the
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dirt inside of the tunnel. the motorcycle would be driven back to the exit point, power wrench was used they were carried to an intermediate area loaded on to massive construction trucks to be driven out of the neighborhood and sand gotten rid of. the theory is that they used a huge infrastructure project in the area providing fresh water for the town up there as cover for their dumping of this dirt. tons and tons of dirt. one cubic yard of dirt weighs 3,000 pounds. 3,000 pounds per cubic yard. there are 1760 yards in a mile. do the math. this was at least 2,000 tons worth of dirt excavated, scoop
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by scoop, wheel barrel in a ventilated and lighted tunnel -- >> and air conditioned. >> and air conditioned. not only does it go under the wall of the prison but to his toilet area one area where there is no surveillance video. it has to be seen to be again, railways in there. reminds me of the terror tunnels in israel. but here is what is interesting about this. there is no way this could have happened without the knowledge and support of high-ranking official hz in the prison in law enforcement in mexico. true or false? >> i believe that the evidence strongly suggests complicity of people at high levels going beyond the prison. let's just say that they were
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higher ups in the prison involved. you know they fired three of them. they should be in custody. the people in custody are the prison guards the lowest level. i'm not saying they're totally innocent but they've been held since saturday night, with no access to their families or attorneys i think that the stake of corruption comes back here to mexico city. >> all right. geraldo will join us tomorrow night. how this could happen and drugs being brought into america because we don't protect our border. we've got to take a break here that is all the time we have left. stay with us, continue coverage from the shooting in chattanooga. there is a presser at the top of the hour.
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