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dead in chattanooga served with great valor and called it heartbreaking. the families have already given a lot to this country and now this. those families need our prayers and they have them. thanks for watching. i'm megain' kelly. here's sean. and in our prayers indeed. thanks, megyn. this is a fox news alert. the man identified as 24-year-old muhammad youssef abdulazeez allegedly opened fire at two military facilities in chattanooga, tennessee earlier today. just moments ago the governor, he addressed the situation. >> this has obviously been a horrible day for chattanooga and a tragic day for all of tennessee and i wanted to be here to express my sorrow and sympathy for the families and everyone else involved. tennessee and chattanooga reacted the way i thought they would. with an outpouring of love and support and the law enforcement officials are saying, i don't know where we've been anywhere to see a community just rally so quickly to the tragedy that we've had.
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>> now the gunman reportedly killed four marines and injure lead others before being killed by local authorities at a navy reserve center. authorities are still investigating with potential connections to radical islam. officials say the suspect was not on the fbi's radar before today's rampage. but breaking tonight, according to "the new york times," the alleged shooter's father was in fact investigated several years ago for possible terror ties. joining us now live on the ground in chattanooga, tennessee is our own john roberts. john, what do you know about that? >> hey, good evening to you, sean. a tow truck, a pickup truck just pulled up out in front of that reserve center a few minutes ago. they may be going in to pick up the suspect's vehicle. that's what you can assume by. that it will be a long night for fbi investigators. they are inside the compound. they will be going through the forensics of what happened during the day. we're told the fbi command center in knoxville is still up and running and likely will be all night. here is the latest.
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four dead. they were marines. a police officer wounded in the ankle. a marine slightly injured in the leg and a female sailor we're told was pretty seriously injured. she was undergoing surgery. she was also shot here at the center. take a look at the aerial pictures from earlier today. this is abdulazeez' car. it's in the front parking lot of that reserve center. to get there he had to snake his way through concrete barriers and get up enough speed to smash through the gate in front of that facility carried it with him 30 to 40 yards. you can see it bent and twisted there in front of the car. that's where he allegedly opened fire, according to officials. he shot from the parking lot at that recruiting center earlier in the day. now, in that recruiting central, center in lee highway, take a look at the bullet holes through the window. and the bullet holes surrounding a sign that says no firearms inside. that's because, sean, a 1992 directive from february of 1992 that was enacted in 1993 when president clinton took office severely limits the presence of
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firearms in military facilities including recruiting centers. however, there are some provisions in that directive that allow weapons to be held on military facilities. one is for law enforcement purposes. the other is, quote, when there is a reasonable expectation that life or d.o.d. assets will be jeopardized. if firearms are not carried. i think a lot of people will be taking a look at that klaus in light of what happened today. here's one little moment we saw earlier today. a marine in dress blues came up to the area where police had it cordoned off. delivered to one of the police officers there a folded up flag paying tribute to the four marines who were so brutally murdered here earlier today. sean? >> all right, john. thank you so much for being with us. and joining us live from washington with much more on any connection this attack has to home grown terror or perhaps radical islamic terror. catherine herridge. catherine? >> sean, we are working at this hour to confirm that report from "the new york times" that the suspect's father had been the subject of a terror investigation an unspecified number of years ago. but it was eventually band only
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and nothing was turned up. in the 14 years i've covered this beat, it is significant within the hours of the attack the fbi director james comey was in the oval office briefing the president. the fbi was in the lead. and the starting point for the investigation is domestic terrorism. until the evidence shows otherwise. >> domestic terrorism, does that rule out any possible link to isis maybe? >> no. we are looking at every possible avenue. whether it was terrorism whether it was domestic international, or whether it was a simple criminal act. >> tonight the homeland security secretary said in a statement that security is being ramped up at federal facilities out of an abundance of caution, adding there is no credible threat at this time. but, again, there was no warning the chattanooga attack was imminent. >> any indication that there might be an attack today? >> no. we had no intelligence indicating there would be any type of take today.
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>> the big takeaway tonight based on our reporting is the 24-year-old suspect was not on the fbi's radar. this is the kind of case the fbi director has been specifically warning about. >> all right, catherine, i know we have not been able to confirm this yet, but there is reports out there about a blog that this suspect, i guess we have to call him at this point in this case and he had two specific postings. both of them talked about islam. back on july 13th, the two posts coming on the very same day. what do we know about that? what do we know about that? what are we looking into? >> it appears from our reporting the first group to identify the blog was the institute, a group that tracks jihadist traffic and communications online. if in fact it is the suspect in the case, investigators will be taking a hard look at his statements to try and understand his frame of mind. also in light of what they find on their forensic review which will be the phones, as well as the computers. i wouldn't want to get too far
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ahead except to say we have a suspect identified and it's certainly someone of interest to the fbi but not someone who was on their radar before this terrible attack took place. >> all right, catherine herridge in washington tonight, thank you. joining us now from washington with much more information is our own jennifer griffin. jennifer? >> sean here's what we know about muhammad youssef abdulazeez. he was 24 years old, born in kuwait in 1990. ironically, the same year the u.s. came to the defense of kuwait after saddam hussein invaded. he lived with his parents and attend red bank high school in chattanooga. he was on the wrestling team and his coach has described him as a nice observant muslim. in his senior year book, there is some clue about his state of mind. he wrote, my name causes national security alerts. what does yours do? he signed it hajib man. also of note, he was arrested for a dui in april. somewhat surprising for a devout muslim.
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according to law enforcement, he does not have a military back ground. he worked as an intern at the tennessee valley authority five years ago and attended college at chattanooga state. he studied electrical engineering. we're also learning more about the marines who were killed. one of them was a, quote, decorated war hero with two purple hearts. the youngest was a lance corporal artillery, just 19 years old. all were reservists in an artillery unit part of the 3rd battalion, 14th regiment of the marine reserves. in addition, three people were injured. one marine and one officer and one female sailor was injured at the second shooting location. she is still in surgery we're told. the shooting happened at 10:50 this morning. 25 to 30 shots were fired at a recruiting center. the victims crawled on the floor and escaped out the back door. the police say they chased the shooter to a second location
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seven miles away a naval support operations center and marine reserve center. the car rammed the gate but there were no armed guards at the facility as john roberts reported. the four marines were outside and unarmed. >> we know he was a wrestler and later tried his hand at mma wrestling. a fellow wrestler ryan smith is quoted as saying he was very religious, would argue back and forth with the high school wrestling coach during fasting rituals. do we glean anything from that? do we glean anything from the "new york times" report that his father was perhaps being looked into having radical views? >> well i think they are two separate issues. one, we certainly have to notice that tomorrow night is the end of ramadan. and it is significant for muslims to carry out so-called jihad during ramadan. there is a belief they'll go straight to heaven and certain things follow. i believe that all of the reports from his friends and coaches is that yes, he was an observant muslim. but that didn't necessarily
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indicate any sort of violent behavior. the post in his year book was a tongue in cheek question. it wasn't necessarily an angry question. so i think right now, the fbi will be looking at all of this. who was he in contact with online? i'm sure there is an incredible forensic trail online in terms of chat room activity and other signs. and certainly they will -- this report by "the new york times" that his father was on a watch list at one point and then was taken off of it. all of that has to be investigated sean. >> all right, jennifer griffin in washington, thank you so much. joining us now on the ground in tennessee, a reporter for the chattanooga times free press joy smith is with us. joy, i see that your newspaper has put out pretty much everything you have been able to find out about this young man. what can you tell us? >> well, we have been able to determine that he went to one of our local high schools. red bank high. and that he went, graduated from utc. that's the university of
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tennessee at chattanooga. with an engineering degree in 2012. we've had that confirmed. and a lot of his classmates. said that he was a really likable, a popular guy. nobody suspected anything like this. >> do you know anything joy, about the blog that had been reported? >> no, i do not. >> what else can you tell us? i know that you guys also chronicled a little bit of his time in high school. you spoke to the coach. you spoke to some of his fellow wrestlers. what did you learn from that? >> we learned that he was a very, very serious about his work. he was very serious about wrestling. i had talked to several people that said that they loved him. that they really enjoyed him. he was a popular person. that he always, people just really enjoyed him and they just, i've had several people call me in shock. they just don't understand how he could have done this.
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>> yeah. i understand. we just had our own catherine herridge report that he was born in kuwait. do we know if he was an american citizen? >> we have not been able to confirm that yet. we know that his family lived, owned a home. they were middle class, nice middle class family and they owned a home. we have not been able to confirm that. >> what do we know about the dui arrest in april of this year? >> yes. we've been able to confirm that he was arrested for that, but that's all we know about that. >> do we know anything about how he reacted while being arrested? any the law enforcement tips on that? >> we know that he was shot. we don't know exactly the circumstances surrounding how he was shot. no. >> abdulazeez' father youssef was appointed a special policeman in the chattanooga department of public works. correct? >> yes.
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the public works department, >> go ahead? >> they have a concern number of officers that are unarmed they deputize. he was likely at one of our, at the local sanitary plan where they normally station unarmed officers. and he also worked for the public works department. we've been able to confirm that. >> tell us about abdulazeez himself and the work he did for the city. >> well, the people that i have spoken to say he was a really hard worker and he was really proud of his work. >> and the specific area? >> nobody had anything negative to say about him. >> the specific work that he was doing? >> all we know is that he worked for the public works department and that he was able to -- yeah that's all. >> would he in that department have access to the public water of the city? >> i don't know. he could have.
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>> okay. a question we might want to ask in the future. thank you so much, joy. appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> joining me on the phone, someone who witnessed the deadly shooting. erica wright. thank you so much for being with us. our thoughts and prayers do go out to the people of chattanooga and all of tennessee tonight. tell us what you saw. >> yes. we were in the salon working two doors down from the army/navy recruiting center. we heard one loud pop. and it sounded like a car back firing or something like that. so we went to the door in the front windows to see what it was. and when we got to the windows, we looked down the walkway and saw that he was right beside the naval recruiting place, just shooting. in a silver convertible mustang, just unloading a large black gun. >> was this the first shooting or the second shooting?
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and is this where he lost his life? >> as far as i know, this was the first shooting. he went to amnicola after he left the location beside my job. >> okay. so you see him and you see he was firing all these bullets. you came out. i assume you probably ducked for cover, right? immediately after you saw that he left, what did you do? >> well we didn't come outside. we just looked out the window. and immediately when we saw that someone was shooting we headed toward the back of the salon, grabbing our cell phones so that we could call 911. and about the time we got to the very back of the salon, the shooting stopped. and he was leaving the parking lot, hit it down 153, assuming toward amnicola. >> we really appreciate you sharing that story with us. a very sad day for everybody there. our thoughts and prayers with the families of these four brave marines and those injured as well. when we come back, new information on the shooting in tennessee.
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we saw the silver convertible mustang, and he was just unloading some type of large rifle. it was a regular day. i mean he just pulled up. and i didn't think anything of it. he had his dropped top. the next thing you know he lifted up his arms like this with a big black gun. there was one shot and then it was just endless shots, one after another, just unloading
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into the army. >> chattanooga, tennessee reeling tonight after the deadly shootings. joining us on the ground with with the very latest zt reporter jen is with us. jen, walk us through the day. walk us through the new development this hour. >> reporter: we are getting to get new details on muhammad youssef abdulazeez. police and federal investigators tell us for something to qualify as an act of terrorism, that's what they are investigating. they first to have prove that some sort of political organization is associated with him or he had political motives. looking at his google search, looking at anything he might have typed in his e-mail. we are standing outside the reserve center. this is where it all ended. this is where someone shot abdulazeez. now we are getting reports that law enforcement may have shot him. however, police have not been clear about the circumstances surrounding his death. this all started actually across town at the marine reserve center. 10:45 this morning, he continued
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his rampage here killing four marines, injuring three people and an officer. we understand the officer and the three civilians will be okay. and we know abdulazeez lived just across the river in chattanooga. so just a few minutes from here. we know he was born in kuwait and we did a criminal back ground check on him in the state of tennessee. in hamilton county. the only thing on his record is a dui from april. and in tennessee, that's a misdemeanor. that's not a felony. so the fbi, he hasn't even been on their radar up until now. sean, back to you. >> i want to ask you real quickly, what do you know about the new york time report about the father and he could have been on a watch list a number of years ago? everything that we read, every person that came into contact with abdulazeez says he was very religious and would fast and argue with his wrestling coach, et cetera. then this unconfirmed reports about the blog that might have indicated that he has some radical islamic at least thoughts or belief systems.
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what do we know about the father? >> reporter: that's certainly a valid point that you have. we are still looking into his father. there are a lot of circumstances. it is not clear if he was motivated himself or his father had somewhat of an influence. we do have another crew that is in the hickson area right now. we're trying to reach out to neighbors, family members and we are working to get you more details maybe to confirm that family association, if there is any other motivation behind the shooting. >> all right, jen. thank you so much for being with us as we continue tonight. earlier, about a week ago, we know that the fbi director james comey actually said he cannot stop isis-inspired attacks against our military indefinitely. watch this. >> isil says go kill, go kill of here's a list of military members you can go kill. go do it. we are stopping these things so far through tremendous hard work the use of sources, the use of online undercovers. but it is incredibly difficult. i cannot see me stopping these indefinitely. >> so how safe are you? the american people?
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joining us now with analysis former fbi assistant director former nypd detective bo dietl and special agent manny gomez is with us. manny, i'm listening to james comey saying i can't stop this indefinitely. that was a week ago. >> well, he is being honest. statistically isis is recruiting an average of 50 people a day. the message is pretty simple. come join us overseas and fight with us. but if you can't do that simply go out, kill cops kill military by any means necessary, improvised explosive devices, firearms ahatchet. and their message obviously is resonating with the youth of our country. >> before i get to bo ron haskell, you're what, former special assistant director of the fbi. i would like to think and i think the american people would like to think that the fbi has a handle on this. and a week ago they were saying
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we do not have a handle on this in any way, shape, matter or form. what can you tell the person people about their specific safety? >> well, i think, sean, the american people need to be concerned and need to be alert. the fbi director has been warning this sort of thing for weeks now, if not months. this threat is far different than the threat of al qaeda 10 or 12 years ago. if you use the hockey analogy, al qaeda was working with a very big puck and they would pass it back and forth to each other before they tried to score. the big puck was the grandiose, the big strike on america, an airliner strike or a bridge or a tunnel. here you have people who are going to just put shots on goal. isis is looking for anyone who will listen to their message and move to action to fire. to take action against the military, against law enforcement. and the other thing the director is warning about is this notion
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of going dark. because of technology advances today, the fbi is hearing and seeing less and less and less because of encryption technology. >> all right. bo, it is unconfirmed at this point. there is a possibility that he may have telegraphed this in terms of his radicalism going back to july 13th and two posts. we haven't confirmed it yet. if that turns out to be the case that would follow a pattern that we often have which is you have radical sympathizers telegraphing their radical views, and we don't catch it. >> if you remember back to the fourth of july we were on your show. we talked about the threat about ramadan and they were talking about attacking. and it came and went and everybody forgy about it. i think this should be a wake-up call in america. if people believed the fbi is monitoring any portion of this. the tip of the iceberg. there are so many others in this country that the fbi, it cannot monitor it.
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these people here that you see like what happened today. this is guy who was sitting back. he wanted to do something for ramadan to get to the that 72 virgins, luxury like he had never seen before. this is what they believe. they're psychopathic. we have to wake up america. we feel we have to give up our freedom. you can't listen to my phones. you have to give up some of your freedom to have safety. and this is now a wake-up call for america. this is the beginning. >> let me tell you how bad this is. i have numbers. for the last seven years, leading town february 1, 2015. domestic terror attacks or foiled terror attacks occurred on average, get this, every 34 days. that's a lot. >> i don't want to be the monger here because i get e-mails when i do your show saying you're trying to scare everybody. yeah. i'm trying to scare everybody into preparing themselves. put armament around our military bases.
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they're fine enough to fight in the war. let them carry their firearms. let them have m-16s. we have them in penn station with our national guard. we have to realize. we're at war with isis. and this president should wake up. >> i'll get to that in a second. this is an important point. this is our military. >> right. now you say they can't carry guns? >> these are gun-free zones. we're going to send them off to war, train them in the use of firearms but we don't have the confidence to give them or allow them weapons on their own bases or recruiting areas? that makes zero sense. it might have saved marines' lives today. >> and it was a video on one of the fox stations like this afternoon. they showed an aerial view with a helicopter with two marines laying there dead. i tell you, when i saw that and they were unarmed, my heart went out there. the contact kiss on and they were unarmed. >> at the very least, give them a fighting chance. >> 100% having served in the united states marine corps myself. in the infantry. i totally agree.
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these men need to have some protection at this juncture. they're being targeted. isis is saying, go out and kill u.s. servicemen wherever they are. this law was 1992 was out there for a reason. it is outdated. the new norm now is that people are being radicalized, daily, weekly, monthly, the fbi as good as they have been and they have been exceptional in identifying, investigating, neutralizing and arresting numerous attackers, it is like emptying the ocean on to the beach. at some point you're overwhelmed. >> there's another problem here, ron. look, you're in the business of law enforcement. you're an assistant director for the fbi. every law enforcement person that i know, ron, they're involved in some level of profiling. we have a president that to this day, our government's official take on what happened with major hassan was workplace violence as he was screaming.
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allahu akbar as he was killing people on a military base. aren't we making a critical mistake that we have this unnatural mysterious reluctance resistance almost petrified fear of identifying the enemy. he won't say radical islam. isn't that a mistake? >> i think that may be. it's tricky ground, sean. >> why is it tricky? major hasan screaming allahu akbar. that's the official position to this day. there is a level of dishonesty here that the president is afraid to identify our enemies that are sworn on killing military men in recruiting stations military men that are not allowed to even defend themselves. >> i don't disagree. with that notion. i think there is certainly a
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piece of dishonesty that permeates this situation. but i mow this having come from the fbi, the fbi is very cautious in how they approach their introduction to religion religious institutions and with other institutions because of the criticisms of overreach in the past. >> knowing what isis has called for, lone wolf attacks against american military and then you find out the guy's name is muhammad youssef abdulazeez. is it not natural to say, wait a minute. was this guy inspired by isis? or is that profiling in a negative way? is that somehow islamic phobic? >> well i think we have to ask those questions certainly in this case. let's say he hadn't committed this act and he is just a person walking on the streets. fair enough. but it would be a good starting point, bo, yes or no? >> absolutely. >> years ago, when you would stop a car. you would get a feeling as a detective or a cop you would stop a car, you reach under the
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front seat and come out with a mac-10. i saw the handle there. >> what is that? >> that means that under the law, that would not be a legal search. >> we got to take a break. >> we're at war. >> look what this guy looks like. he looks like the guy who works at 7-eleven. he looks like a guy who would bomb someplace. so you got to toss the guy. >> you're not allowed to say that, bo. politically incorrect. >> i'm sorry. >> coming up we're following new information about the possible motive of the gunman who killed four brave marines in tennessee. also tonight, geraldo rivera is live on the ground in mexico. and he got into the tunnel where drug kingpin el chapo escaped from. we'll show you that exclusively right here.
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who proudly serve our country. >> this is a sad day for the united states. these service members served their country with pride and they have been the victims of these shootings. we are conducting this as an act of domestic terrorism. >> we are looking at every possible avenue. whether it was terrorism whether it was domestic international, or whether it was a simple criminal act. >> all right. that was a press conference from earlier today where local and federal officials announced that the shootings in chattanooga, tennessee are currently being investigated as an act of terror. we continue now with ron haskell, bo dietl, manny gomez. manny, the president won't acknowledge allahu akbar. he calls it workplace violence. won't say it's radical islamic terrorism. he regularly fails to do this.
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my question is have we gone overboard and is political correctness impeding law enforcement? >> it is. and i'll tell you why it is. until we call it what it is -- >> you can't fight it. >> absolutely. we're at war with them. we need a media campaign to counter their media campaign. we need to motivate and get our people to act as force multipliers to be the eyes and ears of law enforcement. when they see something unusual like this guy running around, call the fbi. call your local cops. >> in 2007 they did a great report about home grown muslim terrorists. and it was a report under ray kelly's watch. and they fought it. the muslim community fought that report because that talked about getting these people online turning them into these terrorists here in america. the fact of the matter is it was the truth and it is coming to fruition right now. and i'm going to say it again. the audience i don't want to scare them, but this is the beginning of it. and i'll telling you, it will start and it will continue.
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>> ron, let me go to you. do you agree with bo dietl? is is that just the beginning? will we see more and more? are we making a mistake by being too politically correct as it relates to law enforcement standard practices or what used to be standard in terms of profiling? >> i think we need to call this what it is. and i think we need to move past the label. get to the fight. i agree. with your other guests. we are at wore with isis. they have declared war on us as a free people. but at the same time, we need to be cautious we the fbi and government need to be cautious not to alienate good religious muslims around our country who are trying to integrate into our society, who are part of our society. we need them on our team. we need to be smart about how we do it. >> all right. i want to thank you all for being with us. >> we stopped the undercovers here in new york. we stopped the undercovers in the country. this is going to happen more and
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>> that was the president from the white house earlier today responding to the deadly attack in chattanooga, tennessee. joining me now, the director of jihad watch, robert spencer and an investigative journalist and ceo of american media institute richard minitur is back with us. rob, let me ask you about a report that you put out today. and i think you were quoting the associated press if i'm not mistaken, about a potential islamic state tweet warning about the attack and that it was posted at 10:34. that turned out not to be true? >> well, it was a genuine tweet. it seems that it came from the pacific time zone. so it was almost certainly posted after the attack and not during or before. so the initial reports were inaccurate about that. but the larger question in this sean, remains. the fact that last september, the islamic state put out an explicit call for attacks on military personnel in western countries and that that call was heeded in canada in france just
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this past week and elsewhere around the world. so the investigators i think would be seriously remiss if they didn't look for some islamic state connection. whether the shooter here was inspired by the islamic straight or explicitly directed at this point it's a distinction without a difference. the islamic state wants military men to be attacked in western countries. this was an attack on military men in western countries. >> richard, i think in many ways, robert is right. we live in a very politically correct world. you look at the circumstances here. the call by isis to attack military installations. it seems to be at least the number one thing i would be looking at. your thoughts. >> absolutely. against those who worn against the dangers of profiling, you have to ask the question. why is it that so few of these killers seem to be named after roman catholic saints? there is a connection here. we know from the ft. hood shooting and similar shootings that often there is direction. either out of al qaeda in yemen
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or out of isis or out of other radical salafi or radical islamic groups. certainly i think investigators will be looking at his e-mails and other electronic communities. it is also instructive that the two blog posts he's ever posted according to the daily beast both refer to islam from a very radical perspective. the other thing is the videos of these facilities over the past week. often these kinds of attacks are rehearsed days in advance. it's also possible there is video of him rehearsing this attack. there may be a passenger in the car and i would appointment them in the direction of accomplices. >> robert, richard, thank you both for being with us. when we come back, a "hannity" exclusive. el chapo is still on the run. after his brazen prison escape last weekend. our own geraldo rivera is live on the ground in mexico. he got inside that tunnel earlier today where that notorious drug kingpin, what he used for his mistake. we'll take you in when we come
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there's a fox news alert. we are there's a fox news alert. we are awaiting a press conference from law enforcement at the top of the hour about today's shootings in tennessee. we'll bring that to you live right here on the fox news channel. also tonight, the manhunt for the mexican drug lord joaquin
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"el chapo" guzman continues. mexican authorities have ramped up their efforts to try to capture the drug kingpin, but there are reports that the government is in fact not accepting assistance from the u.s. joining us now fox news senior correspondent our own geraldo rivera. geraldo? >> sean good evening from the sprawling capital of mexico city a city and a country that has been destabilized by this brazen, this extraordinary escape. before i get to it though, if you would permit me, i must single my deepest condolences to the families of those four slain marines. to think they made it through combat only to die at the hands of a sunni muslim extremist wanna-be in chattanooga, tennessee is almost more than the nation can bear. so, again, my deepest condolences. this nation, mexico, is reeling from this brazen and extraordinary escape by el chapo. there is a feeling that ranges between humiliation over the
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obvious incompetence or outrage over the strong possibility the stink of conspiracy and complicity by high-ranking officials in the escape by the billionaire drug lord wanted in california in arizona, in texas, in florida in illinois and in new york by federal district courts on charges ranging from murder to drug trafficking to moneylaundering. this man spent the money. the investment that he made is clear to anyone to see, but it is more apparent than anything in the world when you go inside his tunnel. this extraordinary creation this construction is almost beyond words. pictures tell the story much better than words do sean. >> not only did his co-conspirators buy a property and build a house that they used as the entranceway for their
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tunnel thing, then they dug a shaft down about 15 feet to an intermediary level at the exit point there where they installed a gigantic generator, a generator that provided both ventilation ventilation, air conditioning and lighting for that massive mile-long tunnel. from that intermediate level you go down to the main tunnel level about three stories underground. there you find a railed system that is in its own way an engineering marvel. they have these little railcars two of them attached to a third railcar that is propelled by an old motorcycle. the motorcycle was used to transport the dirt as the workmen would fill bucket after bucket wheel barrel after wheel
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barrel of the dirt inside that tunnel. the motorcycle would then be driven back to the exit point. a power winch was used to lift the buckets, bucket by bucket to the surface. they were carried to an intermediary area where they were then loaded on to massive trucks big construction trucks to be driven out of the neighborhood and then gotten rid of. the theory is they used a huge infrastructure project in the area where they were providing fresh water for the town up there as cover for their surreptitious dumping of this dirt. tons and tons of dirt. remember one cubic yard of dirt weighs 3,000 pounds of this dirt. 3,000 pounds per cubic yard there are 1760 cubic yards in a mile. do the math. this was at least 2,000 tons
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worth of dirt excavated, scoop by scoop, bucket by bucket wheelbarrow by wheelbarrow. and a ventilated and lighted tunnel that stretches a mile from the exit point on the hilltop hill and the air conditioning. >> unbelievable. >> not only does it go under the wall of the prison but it goes precisely to his toilet area, the one area where there was no surveillance video. sean it has to be seen to be believed. >> geraldo, you think about this. air conditioning. you think over a mile long. you think about again the railways in, there the sophistication. it reminds me of the terror tunnels in israel. but here is what is interesting about all of this. there is no way this could have happened without the knowledge and support of high-ranking officials in the prison, in law enforcement, in mexico. true or false? >> i believe that the evidence strongly suggests complicity of people at high levels going beyond the prison.
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let's just say that there were higher-ups in the prison that were involved. they fired three of them. fired? they should be in custody. the people in custody ironically are the prison guards the lowest level. i'm not saying that they are totally innocent. i have no way of knowing. but they have been held incommunicado since saturday night with no access to their communication or their families. i think the corruption comes right back here to mexico city sean. >> geraldo will join us tomorrow night, a full hour on el chapo, how this could possibly happen and the drugs that are being into america, the cause if we don't protect our border. now stay with the fox news channel of the coverage of the shootings in chattanooga. there is a presser at the top of the hour. there is a presser at the top of the hour.
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now. this is a fox news alert. the suspect mohammed yousef abdul azeez. you are looking at the man accused of killing four u.s. marines right here on american soil a young man born in kuwait and living in tennessee gunning down four u.s. marines all of them murdered in the united states it happened in thoog tennessee. and now new fears that domestic terrorism right here at home. at this hour that shooter is dead and the city of chattanooga, tennessee in a state of complete shock. "on the record" has live team coverage on the investigation of these brutal murders. just hours ago chattanooga's mayor, police chief u.s. attorney and fbi speaking to the media. >> today is a nightmare for the city of chattanooga. around 11:00 this m