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mustache. >> they should like make out right? >> could you imagine that? >> like sharknados. chris christie joins us tomorrow night. that's it for us. "special report" right here next. another undercover video, and even more outrageous an gruesome depicks of planld parenthood's alleged sale of body parts from aborted fetuses. this is "special report." >> good evening. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier for the second time in eight days a pro-life group has released a video purporting to show a planned parenthood official haggling over price for body parts from aborted babies. and laughing about it. it is reigniting calls for hearings penalties, and financial retribution toward the organization which again today came out swinging in response. we have fox team coverage
tonight. ed henry looks at the sponsor lack of it from hillary clinton and other democrats. we begin with correspondent peter duesy and second dose of some pretty difficult medicine. >> reporter: good evening, bret. the debate about abortion is usually when does life start. but tonight the debate is how much for this body part. with one planned parenthood executive hoping it's enough for a fancy new car. >> it's been years since i talked about it. let me figure out -- [ inaudible ]. >> that laughter-filled lunch with planned parenthood dr. mary gatter was secretly filmed by actors for medical progress who want to show the world the way planned parenthood operates behind the scenes. >> i would like to know what would make you happy? what would work for you?
>> the group settled on $100 as a straight point for livers hearts or brains from an aborted fetus. that's before their entrees even arrived. >> the coarseness of the tone. the fact they could be eating their salad and swilling their wine and laughing and making jokes about the way they're selling dead baby parts is outrageous. what's even more outrageous is the fact that the taxpayer is funding planned parenthood to the tune of half a billion dollars a year. >> reporter: dr. gatter goes further, plaining abortions can be performed jebtly to pregently to perform perform -- insists they don't
profit on human tissue. and a group defense itself by saying quote these videos are part of a decade-long campaign of deceiving the public making false charges and terrorizing women and their doctors, all in order to ban abortion and cut women off from care at planned parenthood" religious groups say planned parenthood is just trying to change the subject. >> instead of answering the questions that we are asking namely are you in fact profiting from the sale of these body parts, and are you changing the medical procedure in order to get better body parts instead of answering those questions they're trying to attack those who made these videos. >> i've searched the planned parenthood web site for fetal baby part prices but can't find them. because until these videos came out, these transactions had been planned parenthood's well-kept secret. >> peter will have more on this with the panel. thank you. as we have seen the response from republicans, pro-lifers even planned parenthood itself has been swift
and forceful. just the opposite from democrats running for president and courting the pro-choice vote. >> reporter: after a week of revelations, hillary clinton has said nothing about the planned parenthood scandal, despite waiting mere hours to weigh in on republican presidential frontrunner donald trump's comments about senator john mccain. >> it's shameful and so is the fact that it took so long for most of his fellow republican candidates to start standing up to him. >> reporter: critics today noted clinton and the rest of the democratic candidates are not standing up to planned parenthood. republican presidential candidate carly fiorina today called out clinton by name. >> democrats have always fought for a policy that says it is not a life until it leaves the hospital. hillary clinton has fought to preserve that policy. >> reporter: republicans are pushing to cut off taxpayer funding for planned parenthood when congress returns in
september. with conservatives declaring leaders in both parties have a moral obligation to speak out. >> there is no reason that we should have the type of cultural cronyism that goes on where politicians in washington, d.c. choose to funnel our tax dollars to these types of controversial organizations. >> reporter: yet none of the democratic candidates are offering any comment to fox. an aide to former virginia senator jim webb a more centrist democrat told fox that webb was asked about the controversy and replied he did not watch the videos. aides to form maryland governor martin o'malley who's catholic, did not respond. no comment as well from former rhode island senator and governor lincoln chafy. senator bernie sanders on friday turned back by offering an i pollee from cecile richards' chief. >> she apologized for that video. that was exactly right. i think that staffer tone was terribly wrong. >> reporter: senate democratic leader harry reid today was willing to go on camera with a
defense of planned parenthood by citing the benefits of human fetal tissue research. >> in fact a nobel prize is awarded because of this. these politically motivated videos raise some questions, but nothing i've seen indicates plan the parenthood violated federal laws. >> reporter: another possible reason for hillary clinton's silence, her campaign has received nearly $10,000 from employees of planned parenthood. in context that's a tiny portion of the over $40 million she's already raised bret. >> ed thank you. then there were 16. the entry of ohio governor john kasich in for next year's presidential race grows the field to a crowded and in recent days not so sweet 16. chief political correspondent carl cameron on the newest contestant who has a long way to go and a short time to get there. >> i have decided to run for president of the united states. >> reporter: the 16th republican seeking the white house in 2016 john kasich the two-term
governor of bellwether ohio and chormer chairman of the budget committee. the only time congress balanced the budget in latest history is joining the race in time to qualify for the first debate in his home state 16 days from now. >> all my life people have told me you can't do something, okay? and i'll tell you why. it's because i do believe in the power of very big ideas. policy is far more important than politics ideology or any of the other nonsense we see hmpblgts his inclusivees. >> reporter: his inclusive slogan is for us. >> people who have not been dealt the best hand in life. yeah. we want to hold them accountable? but the lord wants our hearts to reach out to those that don't have what we have. >> reporter: he casts himself as a compassionate truth teller,
less bombastic than chris christie ted cruz or donald trump. trump appeared on the o'reilly factor last night. after having den grated senator john mccain's military service last weekend said he respected him but then trashed him for not fixing the veterans administration. >> certainly if there was a misunderstanding i would totally take that back. hopefully i said it correctly. certainly shortly thereafter i said it correctly. i would love to see him do a much better job taking care of the veterans. this morning in the leadoff caucus state of iowa the des moines register called trump a sideshow demanding he with draw from the race. trump fired back in a statement, attacking the paper for poor circulation and poor reporting. in new hampshire the conservative uniyorp leader news paper ever knocked trump "if anyone in america knows heroism it is donald trump. veteran of the ivy league studio 54 and countless -- lindsey graham referred to the billionary as a jackass. trump counter attacked on the
trail in trump's home state. >> every time i turn on the television i have some guy that is hitting me like hard. the reason they're hitting me in all fairness when you register zero in the poll what the hell? they have nothing to lose right? >> reporter: lindsey graham is a little bit higher than zero in the polls. trump called him an idiot today and then read lindsey graham's personal cell phone number aloud twice to his television audience. >> it was the real number. up next a link to terror. the chattanooga gunman and his internet search for martyrdom. fox affiliates 11 in los angeles with major problems resulting from the collapse of a bridge on eastbound interstate 10 a critical connection between california and arizona. one big rig driver says he'll have to drive an extra 250 miles to get 50 miles farther down the
road. fox 35 in orlando with some people upset at target for selling women's t-shirts contain words such as "trophy." critics say they're demeaning to women. others say women are characterizing themselves positively by buying and wearing the shirts. target says it has had an overwhelmingly positive response. and this is a live look at kansas city from fox 4. the big story there tonight, a woman breaks the window of a hot car to rescue a child inside. a witness says the toddler was dripping with sweat when she was pulled out. authorities are considering whether to press charges against the mother. that's tonight's live look outside the beltway from special report. we'll be right back.
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information about one member of the killer's family. senior national correspondent john roberts has the latest from chattanooga. >> reporter: fbi agents and jordanian authorities have been holding the uncle of gunman mohammed abdullazeez. they're questioning the ankle about where he went who he met with during the seven months he spent in jordan in 2014 what might have motivated him to take the lives of five american heroes. fox news was told he may have researched martyrdom in his computer in recent weeks. law enforcement sources say he also watched at least one video of anwar al alaki who was taken out by a u.s. drone in 2011. abdullazeez mentioned zalaki in writings discovered at his home. today we got an exclusive look at the recruitment center.
dozens of rounds shot through the doors and windows, hitting furniture, a television set, a wall next to a desk someone was sitting at moments before the order went out to hit the deck. at the reserve center the fbi found a handgun they believe belonged to one of the marines in the building when abdullazeez opened fire. strictly prohibited the fbi believes it was used in the fire fight. the only effective defense the service members had against a hail of gunfire in confirmation hearings on capitol hill today, the incoming army chief of staff said the rules may need to change. >> i think under certain conditions, both on military bases and in recruiting stations reserve centers, we should seriously consider it in some cases i think it's appropriate. >> reporter: as the shooter's family paints a portrait of a troubled man whose life was falling apart, many in chattanooga aren't buying it. a smoke screen they believe, for a family who had a terrorist living in their midst. today the mayor vowed the community will heal. >> this is something that makes
us ultimately stronger. our hearts have been broken. but when we put them back together we put them back a little bit stronger. because we don't want this attacker to achieve any of his goals. >> reporter: an attorney for abdullazeez's uncle met with the press late today in jordan. he insisted the uncle has no ties to radicalist groups and saying his nephew visited jordan to help him with his business. now to the white house and president obama bowing to pressure apparently and making a gesture of respect for the military men killed in chattanooga. chief washington correspondent james rosen is here with details tonight, good evening, james. >> reporter: separate fronts today, president obama moved to demonstrate his concern for some americans to whose plight it appeared tomorrow eyes he was less than sufficiently attuned. the white house today ordered flags flown at half-staff to honor the four marines and one navy sailor killed in that shooting rampage in chattanooga
five days ago. criticism had mounted the victims including a wounded police officer were not receiving appropriate respect from the white house where flags were lowered within a day of the massacres at fort hood tucson and newtown, and where aides last month swabbed the executive mansion in rainbow colors within hours of the supreme court legalizing same-sex marriage. the white house did not explain why the decision was finally made now. but among those leading the charge was marine corps veteran mike shepherd who launched a facebook challenge for ordinary americans to lower their own flags and thereby quote teach obama respect. >> a lot of the readers responded to me and told me they felt helpless and hopeless. they don't have any say. i just wanted them all to know that their opinion matters, their voice matterses, we can all do this together with or without the president and show our respect for our fallen and tell them that we love them. >> reporter: in remarks to the veterans of foreign wars in pittsburgh the commander in chief says his administration has extended benefits to more than 2 million veterans and has
worked to reform the v.a. hospital system even as he acknowledged wait times are in some cases on the rise. and in defending the iran nuclear deal mr. obama spoke of the four americans whose face were not tie fates were not tied to the nuclear negotiations. >> pastor said abadini should be released, a form sergeant of the u.s. marine corps should be released. iran needs to help us find robert levinson. these americans need to be back home with their families. >> reporter: the president squeezed in a trip to manhattan in a visit to "the daley show" with john stewart. >> the pentagon also announced today a successful strike against an important terrorist leader. but apparently left out a key detail. >> reporter: yes. the defense department announced that back on july 8th the u.s. targeted and killed the leader
of a terrorist cell known as the corozon group. alfadli was killed traveling in northwest syria. u.s. officials said the veteran al qaeda operative enjoyed full knowledge of the 9/11 attacks and was actively plotting against the united states. the pentagon press failed to note where he was actually based, namely he was the senior al qaeda leader inside iran. bret? >> james, thank you. the secret service has just seconds ago refused to comment on a stunning and potentially dangerous breach of protocol from the national airline of kenya where the president will be visiting later this week. a routine airport advisory with the expected arrival and departure times for air force one somehow received wider than normal circulation. however, we're told the information was incorrect. security is already high for the president's visit since the terror group al shabab is active in that area. one correction on that story we
gave you outside the beltway about the hot car. the charges did involve the mother. still ahead, the outgoing army chief of staff on the collapse of iraq massive troop cuts and the threats from russia and isis. first, trying to make a senseless death count for something. take criminal illegal immigrants off the streets.
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republicans in congress are taking a hard look at the policies of so-called sanctuary cities. places that essentially ignore federal immigration law. tonight the father of a young woman who paid for san francisco's policy with her life is trying to do something about them. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is on
capitol hill tonight. >> we feel if kate's law saves one daughter one son, a mother a father kate's death won't be in vain. >> reporter: three weeks after kate steinle's murder by an illegal immigrant with a long criminal record her father jim was on capitol hill calling for action. kate's law is a bill being proposed in her memory that would establish a mandatory five-year prison sentence for illegals who re-enter the u.s. after being deported. laura wilkerson's son josh was beaten and burned to death by a young man brought to this country illegally, a so-called dreamer. >> i want you to know that our family is broken forever. i want you to do something about it. every one of you sitting here is in a position to do something. >> reporter: texas senator ted cruz, presidential candidate, blasted the immigration and customs enforcement director saying a huge problem is the obama administration's failure to enforce the law. >> if president obama had the courage of his convictions, he would come and look in the eyes of these men and women who have sons
their daughters, their mothers, their sisters, their brothers and the administration would stop releasing murderers and rapists. >> we don't release people willy nilly. we release people pursuant to these statutes and regulations. >> reporter: the steinle murder brought the issue of sanctuary cities to the national spotlight. communities which only offer minimal cooperation to the federal government on immigration matters. california democratic senator diane feinstein is a former mayor of san francisco, a sanctuary city and she blasted the sheriff's office. >> the man who killed kate is a classic case of multiple felonies and prior deportations. and a simple phone call would have been enough. >> reporter: but that didn't happen. >> why a shot rang out, kate fell, and looked to me and said help me dad. those are the last words i will ever hear from my daughter. >> reporter: the house is
expected to vote this week on legislation to withhold federal funding from states and cities that resist turning over illegals to federal authorities. bret? >> mike thank you. a federal appeals court has tossed out some of the convictions against former illinois governor rob blagojevich. he was sentenced to 14 years in prison in 2011 for trying to sell or trade president obama's old senate seat. the court dismissed five of the 18 counts for which blagojevich was convicted. it also ordered a resentencing. it's not clear whether his punishment will be reduced. the land under san diego's mt. soledad veteran's memorial and cross has been sold. the half-acre plot has transferred from the defense department to a private mt. soledad memorial association. federal courts have ruled the cross is an unconstitutional effort by government to endorse a religion. it's not clear yet whether the sale will persuade opponents of the cross to drop their decades-long fight against it.
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outgoing army chief of staff is painting a dismal picture of the future for both the military and the country. the general sat down for an exclusive interview with fox news before his retirement in coming weeks. he served 39 years as a soldier. national security correspondent jennifer griffin has the general's exit interview. >> reporter: he spent more time in iraq than any other u.s. general. more than four years. the last two as the top u.s. commander. widely viewed as a key architect of iraq's surge, general odierno said iraq didn't need to collapse. >> well it's frustrating to watch it. i think a lot of hard work wednesday into that. we thought we had it going exactly in the right direction. now we watch it fall apart it's frustrating. >> did it have to be this way? >> i think maybe if we had stayed a little bit more engaged, i think maybe it might have prevented it. i've always believed that the
united states played the role of honest broker between all the groups. and when we pulled ourselves out we lost that role as honest broker. >> when isis emerged back in june of last year, and they sacked most mosul, did anyone from the white house reach out to you and seek your opinion? >> all my work was given to chairman dempsey. >> but president didn't ask to see you? you had served almost four years there, more than any general? >> i never -- i never talked directly to the president about it at that time. but i talked to the secretary of defense. i'm sure that he relayed all my thoughts. >> reporter: in 2009 while general odierno was still the top commander in iraq he recommended keeping 30 to 35,000 u.s. troops. if the administration had listened to him, and iraqi government had cooperated, some say the rise of isis may have been prevented >> it was a mistake to pull out? >> i think it would have been good for us to stay.
>> reporter: the general is most worried about the deep cuts to the army which has gone from 570,000 troops to 490,000 due to budget cuts and political decisions. >> under your leadership the last fourees, the army has been cut by 75,000 soldiers since you became chief. now just before you leave, 40,000 more are being cut. how can you cut the size of the force with all of these emerging threats? >> i believe that the time we could do that but i said was on the razor's edge that we could actually do our mission at 450. that was before russia asserted itself and before isis asserted itself. so with russia becoming more of a threat with, isis becoming more of a threat in my mind we are on a dangerous balancing act right now with capability. today as i look at the army today we're about 490,000. we are just meeting the requirements that we have around the world. so when we go to 450 we're going
to have to stop doing some things. >> what message do you think this is sending to our adversaries right now, these cuts? >> i believe they question whether we will be able to respond. and so they're willing to take maybe a bit more risk than they might have just a few years ago. in my mind we don't have the capacity to deter. what i remind everybody about the reason we have a military is to deter conflict and to prevent wars. and if people believe we're not big enough or capable of responding then they miscalculate. >> reporter: general odierno says he supports a nuclear deal with iran but warns about easing pressing on tehran. >> iran is continuing their activities throughout the middle east. don't believe we now automatically have great relationship with iran. i think we have to be very careful. we can't be naive. >> reporter: at the pentagon jennifer griffin, fox news. defense secretary ash carter is trying to smooth things over with israel after last week's announcement of a nuclear deal
with iran he met with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu today in jerusalem. the two did not address the media. netanyahu has called the agreement a mistake of historic proportions. another body blow for planned parenthood. more discussions of selling aborted fetal body parts and more indignation from pro-lifers. we'll discuss it with the panel when we come back. and what if this happened again? i was given warfarin in the hospital but i wondered if this was the right treatment for me. then my doctor told me about eliquis. eliquis treats dvt and pe blood clots and reduces the risk of them happening again. not only does eliquis treat dvt and pe blood clots but eliquis also had significantly less major bleeding than the standard treatment. knowing eliquis had both... turned around my thinking. don't stop eliquis unless your doctor tells you to. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an
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video coming out today showing a member of planned parenthood a doctor who is planned parenthood executive talking about selling parts, fetal tissue and also talking about the extraction of body parts to save them in as you heard not a crunchy technique. very graphic. planned parenthood responded with a new quote just moments ago saying nothing's more important to us than the health and safety of our patients. as a high-quality health provider planned parenthood has extremely high standards. anytime we find those -- >> what about that and the
reaction to all of this? let's bring in our panel. steve hayes weekly standard a.b. stoddard associate editor of the hill and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. a.b. there's been plenty of reaction. republicans out saying this leads to the defunding of planned parenthood. others saying this is horrific. still others defending the group. what is the fallout here? >> well the fallout is on the democrats. this is not only ghastly but it's supposed to be illegal. senate minority leader harry reid came out today to say he didn't find any evidence that any laws were broken. but the democrats aren't saying anything. and this is why this is going to be a huge issue for republicans. it's a way in this election cycle to -- if a pro-choice democrat can't come out and say i'm pro-choice but this is really wrong, and i'm sickened by this then this is an opening for republicans to use this issue in this election. it is not let's talk about abortion rights or roev. wade.
it's let's investigate whether or not they are selling body parts at planned parenthood. and the democrats -- it's not just hillary clinton. it's everybody in the party who are silent on this. stay silent at the peril. this is going to be a huge issue when congress returns in the fall. >> charles, not only the legal part. let's put the legal part aside. it is the description of saving those parts that changes the dynamic of the discussion. when you hear over lunch and the sipping of the wine and eating the salad the crunchy extraction of this body it's no longer just a blob of tissue. >> and that's why i think it's going to have a long-range effect. it will probably have the effect in the short run in this election cycle of putting the issue on the table. the abortion issue on the table in a way that democrats are going to be on the defensive. do you believe in this? do you believe that this is okay? but in a sense it kind of
redefines back room abortion. it used to mean illegal abortions, but now that abortion is legal, we have opened the door on what really happens in the back room. in two ways. number one was when we got ultrasound. and now we're learning about how this is the crushing of a body in a way to keep alive some of the organs. and i think the long-range effect is going to be that it is going to continue the sort of paradoxical growth and support for the pro-life side. because on most social issues definition of marriage drug legalization of drugs you've got everything headed left. the one exception is abortion particularly among young people. where the country's pretty evenly divided. i think in part that's been because of ultrasound but i think this is going to add to this so that ultimately i think it is going to have an effect on how the country looks at abortion. in the short run i think it's
going to hurt democrats. in the long run it could change public opinion which is even more important ultimately. >> the reaction from supporters of planned parenthood steve, has gone all over the place. one is to attack the group responsible for these undercover videos as pro-life and extremist. the other is to talk about the decision to donate that tissue by the families. and this is a channel with five letters that talked about it this afternoon. >> it's a very compassion at gesture. it's a very private moment where people volunteer to do this. and certainly so my colleagues around the country and i are the recipients of that sort of in that moment with people. it is very genuine. so there are certainly services where people can help women to do that generous thing that they would like to do at that moment. >> yeah. i think, erin underscoring this is in fact an act of generosity and a very like very difficult
decision to make. >> right. >> is really important to counter act the narrative that is being presented here which is incredibly lurid. that is thus far very effective for this wing of the anti--abortion movement. >> steve? >> i mean i find that absolutely stunning. how do you possibly make that argument? i was shocked at the quote you read from the representative of planned parenthood who said it didn't describe improper activity. let's be clear what we're talking about here. you're talking about the extraction of infants, many of whom could live outside of the womb were this not done to them the taking of their body parts and then selling them for profit. this is not a morally ambiguous discussion where there are two sides of the discussion. what we're talking about is wrong. it's morally reprehensible. i thought on the scale of things in the world that are morally
reprehensible, infanticide is just about the worst! this is worst! it's infanticide for profit. unbelievable somebody would make the argument they were making on that other network. the politics of it to me seem very small. to even talk about politics of it in the context of this discussion seems almost improper. but if you're going to talk about politics i think pro-life candidates have an obligation to campaign on this. i wouldn't care if the politics were horrible. it wouldn't matter. you should make the argument because the argument needs to be made. but i agree with a.b. and charles, the politics will not be horrible. everybody who takes a dollar for a political campaign from planned parenthood should be asked about this and made to defend this practice. >> so is this the beginning of the end of this funding? >> they're going to have to make quite a case that what they're doing is legal and proper and acceptable when they're taking taxpayer dollars. >> going to require the press to drop the double standard.
what every republican is asked to explain away to give an opinion on every idiocy even a todd aiken obscure senate candidate did it on legitimate rape and democrats are not asked about this? every single one should be hounded day and night and say, what is your answer to what you saw? is it improper? until they give a yes or a no. >> we'll continue to follow this story. the group is putting up the unended version of the video, they say, on their web site. we'll follow that as well. next up john kasich becomes republican presidential candidate number 16. ♪ to steady betty. to steady betty. fire it up! ♪ am i the only one with a meeting? i've got two. yeah we've gotta go. i gotta say it man this is a nice set-up. too soon. just kidding.
for your efforts, because i have decided to run for president of the united states! >> john kasich making the announcement. it's official. then there were 16. 16 candidates right now for the gop nomination in this race. john kasich adds his name at ohio state today. let's talk about that with the panel. we've done a contender's piece on governor kasich. we've had him in center seat. now it's official. steve? >> well i watched his speech. it was off the cuff as john kasich often does. >> you didn't get a sense of what he would do as president of the united states. i think that nobody's asking him to provide detailed policy specifics in the first speech. you really didn't get a sense of why he was going to be president and what he would do if he
became president. i think he's got a difficult path to the nomination frankly. i mean he's done some good things in ohio certainly. but for conservatives i think his expansion of medicaid under obama care and the way that he defends that is going to be a sticking point. it is at this point $1.5 billion over budget in 18 months. that's a problem. and the way that he argues about it in effect saying look the good lord wants me to expand government. that's not something that's going to sit well with a lot of conservatives. >> but his pitch while he pushes up against his party he has by the way some senior policy advisers who were john huntsman's advisors who also is a former utah governor who pushed up against his party. didn't work out for him. but he had a different pitch. he had like an every man folksy pitch, son of a postman, right? >> i really think today he did say he wanted to battle budget. but he wasn't specific. today's speech was terrible. but it was raw and humble and earnest and genuine. and there is an appeal to voters
now, even though some of them like donald trump to john kasich because he's not calculated and not cautious. he was just talking today about his convictions. i worked with ronald reagan. i remember when he lost. he said we're coming back. i embrace big ideas. everybody always told me i couldn't do this or done do that. i'm the son of a mailman and i've done it all. his record in ohio is impressive and current and he's created more jobs there than scott walker. he's going to make a mess for the other candidates. the i think steve's right. the path to the nomination is really tricky. but he has a great resume' and he's a fateighter and he's going to shake things up. i think he hopes other establishment candidates will stumble and he'll have an opening. that may happen. even after the debate that he might not be at in his own state, he's going to make ripples, i think. >> we'll see. he's tied for ten in the latest fox news poll. he may get a bump from this announcement. who knows?
>> well, regarding the debate he's on the bubble. i think he should have a play in debate between 10 and 11. >> now it is sweet 16. >> like in the ncaa. that's just a programming idea. look i think you're right. he's playing for the left wing of the party, which is not that large. and it doesn't allow a lot of contenders. what's interesting is there's a split between what he's done his record including helping to balance the budget in the 90s, and a pretty conservative governing approach is in ohio with his rhetoric which is in his rhetoric he's a bleeding heart conservative. he's a guy who says when you meet st. peter he's not going to ask you did you shrink the government. they're going to ask you what you did for the poor. well the counter argument that there are no budget constraints in heaven there are some on earth. and in his speech he dismissed
ideology. he said ideology is nonsense. that's another way of saying conservative ideology. so he wants to be the guy who campaigns against conservative ideology but has a pretty conservative record. i don't think that's a winning combination. what he's essentially going to have to rely on is a personality, which is engaging and spontaneous and somewhat undisciplined. it could catch on but it's a big field. >> speaking of personalities, there was a dust up between one candidate from south carolina and another candidate who happens to be a billionaire. >> i don't care if he drops out. stay in the race. just stop being a jackass. you don't have to run for president and be the world's biggest jackass. >> he called me three, four years ago. lindsey graham. i didn't even know who he was. he wanted to know whether or not he could come see me for some campaign contributions. he gave me his number and i found the card. i wroent the number down. i don't know
>> and he goes on to read the number, that was, in fact senator graham's private cell phone number which graham tweeted later probably getting a new phone. iphone or android? i mean, this is quite something, steve. >> it's donald trump. this is a spectacle. this is what you are going to get from donald trump. in my view it's not as outrageous about the commence he made to senator mccain for mocking him for having been captured. it's donald trump. and as long as donald trump is in the race and getting attention. donald trump is going to do donald trump things with all of the grace and dignity and grass of bull worth. >> quickly. >> this kind of childish stuff, i want to see if it stands up in the polls. the big polling bump came before his-his john mccain comments registered. we will see in a week or so giving phone numbers out and acting like a goof ball all the name calling especially after the mccain incident. >> i will save you.
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report," fair balanced and unafraid. greta goes "on the record" right now. tonight, the father and mother of kate steinle "on the record" and no parent should go through. this an illegal immigrant admitting to gunning down their daughter in broad daylight and tonight, new you calls to get illegal immigrants like frances co-sanchez with five deportations off the american streets. in moments kate steinle's mother goes on the record. first, her father's dramatic testimony today on capitol hill. >> suddenly a shot rang out. kate fell. and looked at me and said "help me, dad." those are the last words i will ever hear from my daughter. all children are special. and kate was special in a way she connected with