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on twitter @megyn kelly. we'll be back live at midnight with fair and balanced coverage of the gop debate. frank lutz and his focus group with ben carson, marc thiessen, ann coulter. it goes on. i'm megyn kelly. this is "the kelly file." welcome to "hannity." tonight 2016 gop rivals squared off in the second republican primary debate at the ronald reagan presidential library in simi valley, california. joining us live from the spin room is campaign carl cameron. a lot of fireworks. looks like they wanted to pit one against the other, carl and somewhat successfully. >> a good deal of this has about statements the candidates have made and having them relitigate it. donald trump has gotten far and away the most attention. he's been slamming his poents and some have been slamming him back.
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he was asked about the military. he said he's going to do it big. he's a militaristic person. he went to a prestigious military prep school. but that's about the extent of it. he's been arguing with carly fiorina very extensively. fiorina has shown her foreign policy chop ks and took shots at trump. asked whether he believed she wasn't talking about her facebook persona, she basically said, look at the american people. ben carson has not gotten as many questions. he's used his soft spoken nonsensical approach to get him points. he seems to have been pushed a little bit to the sidelines based upon this din. as to the other establishment candidates we heard chris christie today come out strong and essentially say that donald trump and carly fiorina and the rest of the field are engaging in juvenile attacks when the typical american looking for a job is tired of hearing them talk about their own experiences
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and want to know what they'll do for the american people. john kasich has had a couple of moments talking about his record and his accomplishments in ohio and while a congressman was able to balance the federal budget for first time and really last time in the last 60 years. mike huckabee, rand paul and ted cruz are both on the edges of the debate stage and have been on the edges of the actual debate. not a lot of questions, not a lot of opportunity. one of the consequences of 11 people on a stage in a debate that's now pushing close to three hours is not everybody will get a lot of time and a lot of the issues will be pushed to the side. marco rubio a short while ago went on a lengthy foreign policy discussion and showed that he, too, has a lot to offer in terms of international relations. it's a long process. all these candidates came here after their first debate trying to fix the mistakes they made there and improve on the successes they had. the questions here were based on things that had been said in the past. not a lot of forward-looking policy proposals from these
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people, particularly trump. again he's made a lot of statements and said as he has throughout the campaign, i will know everything i need better than you when the time comes. effectively acknowledging that on some things he doesn't know the answers but will by the time he becomes president. saying he'll put the best team together. raucous debate. fallout to come tomorrow for some of these candidates could be pretty stiff. >> carl cameron in the spin room tonight. with reaction is the author of "a disgrace to the profession." we pulled you out of the woods of new hampshire. we got you here. >> that's right. >> i'm watching the debate. two issues with it. number one, 16 people is way too many people to be on stage -- or 11 in this case. 16, too many candidates. i don't really like the style of this. you said this is interest that person, i want you to say it to their face and you respond to thatp about the whole debate became that. >> the whole thing. some of those people who were so concerned to make it through to
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big boys debate would have been better at the kiddie table debate with lindsey graham. people like rand paul and even i think to a certain extent marco rubio have been invisible in this debate. the dynamic has been trump and the people who want to take a th thwack at him. >> trump said this about you, now you fight with trump. let's start with trump. he's the front-runner coming into this debate. what did you think of this performance? >> he breaks all the rules the consultants mean to tell you you have. he didn't have his lame prescripted joke like rubio's about the bottle of water or scott walker's we don't need an apprentice in the white house. he gives you an impression -- you look at the way you are supposed to spend all the day before prepping for the debate with people standing in. >> he doesn't do that. >> no. >> i don't think he prepped at all. >> no. it's like he was out judging miss universe preliminary rounds
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till 3:00 in the morning. then he had a couple of hours sleep and did the debate. >> i think he actually played golf. >> yeah. he's managed to make that -- he breaks all the rules and he demonstrating that the rules don't apply to him. >> you said to me you were liking him more and more every day, the other night when we had you on. watching this debate, does that continue? >> yeah. i think he's changed the rules. he's essentially blown up the system what he's done is make people who play by the rules, for example, jeb bush used these little lines about how i've got a proven conservative reform track record. you have the people with the prescripted jokes. you have the people who say, oh -- >> or apologize to my wife. >> yeah, yeah. >> and the speaking spanish issue and that came up. >> right, right. and he basically makes all of that look stilted and
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artificial. the other fascinating thing about the debate is he wouldn't actually need to get a single question. because he understands that the reaction shot camera is always on him. so he's always just going -- >> that didn't work for al gore or george herbert walker. ah! >> al gore during the -- that was terrible. but he's managed to make all the -- that one time when he just respond to jeb bush, he goes wrong! >> will there be an impact on the poll numbers based on trump? >> last time around people thought trump had not had a good debate and the gap between him and the rest widened. if you recall people like rubio and kasich were said to have done well. so i think it's really more for the big guy -- the other guys. can they put themselves back and make themselves competitive with trump? i think from that point of view, actually, bush and walker had a
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kind of blah night, a night that will not change essentially the way their poll numbers have halved from the last time. >> i thought they came out strong, then you don't hear from them again. mike huckabee, i forget he was in the debate. i thought he did well. the better part of the changes were trump versus carly. how do you say those went? any victor, a wash? >> she's the new guy on there, on the team. >> the new gal. >> and she was promoted, and suddenly the interesting dynamic when they were having that back and forth on who's been the worst ceo. almost as if being senator and being governor was entirely irrelevant. >> an interesting observation. what did you think of christie coming in on the outside of that and saying, hey, it's not about who is the best ceo here, it's about the construction worker who doesn't have a job?
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>> i would sway thay this, of t so-called conventional politicians, christie is having a pretty good night. i get the sense that he's effective but even though he's effective, people don't necessarily want to consider him as president. but i think compared -- again, compared to walker, compared to bush, compared to rubio, compared to rand paul, he was in the game there tonight. >> who had the best night, from your perspective? >> i think you'd have to say of the nontrump candidates, i think you'd have to say carly fiorina did. she's got some effective lines. >> she's also -- because i've interviewed her. she's very well informed. i would use the word she's very precise. i would assume, i'm guessing, that she's diligent in terms of preparation and understanding and briefing. and she does her homework. >> i think she's actually got quite a nimble mind. so she doesn't retreat. she did a couple of her well
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rehearsed lines tonight about flying is an activity, not an accomplishment. she did a couple of those. but she's actually very nimble at turning the question around and getting at what she wants. >> do you see that translate to better poll numbers for carly now that she's gotten on the main debate stage? >> my sense is that the disappointments did not do anything -- by which i mean the bush, walker, rubio, they didn't do anything to reverse that disappointment tonight which means that the non-trump vote is going to have to go looking elsewhere. i think it's possible that she'll be the beneficiary of that. >> there were moments in the debate where trump made me laugh out loud because he's unfiltered. >> yeah. >> did you do the same? >> yeah, because that's what people like about him. and i think that's where rubio's water joke and scott walker's, you know, we don't need another apprentice in the white house line -- >> you think they fell flat? >> well, because nair the sort
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of thing that some guy writes for you, then you stay up late the night before practicing in front of a mirror. and the thing about what people think about trump is there's obviously nothing he's practiced. what they like about him is he doesn't have consultants. he doesn't have minders. >> when the question was put to carly and she wouldn't give a direct answer, does donald have the temperament to have his finger on the nuclear button, and she wouldn't answer that question. >> she said it would be for the people to decide. >> that's kind of a copout. >> right, right. >> because it was an earlier statement. do you think he showed the temperament tonight for him to be president? i didn't see him really blow up. he's trump. he takes a few jabs. does he have the depth of knowledge, do you think? >> i think so. i don't think it matters -- you know, running for president doesn't mean being able to name the deputy trade minister of the south sandwich islands.
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that's not what it's about. it's about having a broad strategic vision of where you want to take the country. he actually is quite good on the specifics. he's quite good on things like the bowe bergdahl, on putin and ukraine and north korea. but the fact of the matter is when people say i'd love it if calvin coolidge was running. but he's not running. she's decided to sit out 2016. after the kind of guys we've had and if you're telling me, sean, that a republic after 250 years can do no bert than the son and brother of the previous president versus the wife of the previous president, i'd rather george the iii came back and got on the ticket because there's no point to a republic in that case. >> i want to get your perception, ben carson, kasich, rubio. mork with mark steyn coming up. i've been challenged by so many people, and i don't frankly
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have time for total political correctness. and to be honest with you, this country doesn't have time either. >> donald trump, he stood out at the first republican debate. so who is the best debater in the gop field? we'll check in withaldo rivera, rich lowrie. hillary clinton is hosting a viewing party for tonight's debate. that must be fun. ed henry standing by with reaction from her brooklyn headquarters tonight.
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♪ welcome back to "hannity." donald trump has been lighting up the polls since he announced his candidacy back in june. many believe that trump is mainly the main target in tonight's debate. here was a taste of the jabs thrown at trump so far
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throughout the campaign. take a look. >> donald trump's view is that the end is near. his pessimistic view is, let's close the borders, let's create terrorists, let's do that, let's do that all based on negativity. >> that's a very big part of who i am. humility and a fear of the lord. i don't get that impression with him. >> donald trump's not a conservative. he's a fake conservative and eventually people will wake up and hear that. >> he has no ideology. he doesn't believe in anything other than donald trump. he's a narcissist, an egomaniac. he's not for limited government. the only thing he is for is for donald trump. >> leadership is not about how big your title is, how big your office is, how big your helicopter, your airplane or your ego is. >> to make these extraordinarily ugly kind of comments is not reflective of the republican party. trump is wrong on this. >> he's using the talking points of the democrats. those talking points haven't worked.
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>> donald's a great guy and a good person, but i just don't think he's suited to be president of the united states. i don't think his temperament is suited for that. >> a dignified way and a level of class. >> do you think donald trump -- >> i don't think his behavior is dignified nor worthy of the office he seeks. we already have a president now who has no class. >> you don't worry about donald trump. he's a force to be reckoned with but you don't reckon with it by dealing with him. i stopped answering donald trump questions. >> will they work, will they backfire. we continue with mark steyn. we haven't talked about ben carson. >> no. >> if anybody has benefited in the last two weeks in polling, it's ben carson. meteoric rise. >> right. and it's funny because last time around he barely spoke in the debate except for that lovely answer right at the end when he was talking about the siamese twins. i think its a little bit like that tonight that he was given two or three answers, but in the
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end when people are looking for an alternative to trump, they like him. and it's interesting that when they're looking for that alternative to trump, they're really not going for the professional politicians. carson will benefit even if he just gives one cute answer a minute before the tend of tend debate. >> people don't understand debates. this debate will be forgotten as soon as it's over. but debates are really about moments. this is my microphone. there you go again. or even carson's answer in the last debate which i thought was a home run. i didn't think he was having a particularly great debate up to that point. >> no, when people measure a debate moment by moment, which happened with frank luntz after the last debate where people -- the people who watched it moment by moment thought trump was a disaster. and in the end he only widened his lead after the debate. >> you think that happens
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tonight? >> i think in a sense trump -- >> he might have topped out because a 16-man field. 30% is a lot. >> exactly. people keep talking about, oh, you know, he's got a ceiling. the ceiling keeps getting higher. they keep raising the ceiling. and the point, if you take trump, carson and fiorina, you've got 13 people mopping up 40% of the sort of professional politicians. >> true. >> i thought that's what christie was doing tonight. i thought in a sense actually lindsey graham in first debate actually -- i know you're -- >> come on, seriously? you just gave away my rolling of the eyes. >> i know, i know. but behilindsey graham -- >> lindsey graham will not be president. >> lindsey graham understood what the second debate was about. >> he did. >> he was passionate for his big thing.
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and the only person who came -- who has come close so far to doing that in the big boys debate has been chris christie. walker and bush and rubio, this is not going to -- in the first debate -- >> are they too scripted? is it too planned? are they too timid? are they not learning the lesson of trump's success which is to be bold politically incorrect, outspoken, a little flashy? >> yeah, because they weren't told that was what this was about. if you signed up to do a broadway play and you learned your scripted lines for weeks and weeks and you went out on stage and then suddenly some crazy minimum wage equity extra staggers out from the wings and starts just responding to you with lines that come out of nowhere, you're paralyzed. do i stick to my scripted lines or try to match him? that's what these guys are doing. >> we haven't talked about ted cruz yet. ted is one of the most brilliant
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guys on the stage. he's been the one guy in washington that has continually taken on the leadership. >> right. >> and tried to hold the republican party to their pledge in promises on immigration, executive amnesty and other issues. now tonight even mentioned planned parenthood, where does he come out in all this? >> i think ted cruz's strategy to date was to sort of sit out the trump phenomenon and figure that when it imploded -- >> he and huckabee were doing that. >> the trump vote would come to him. he'd be the beneficiary. rick perry attack trumpism as a cancer and he's gone now. cruz's strategy makes sense if, if trump is going to improceelo >> you think he'd be the next in line to be the insurgent candidate for conservatives? >> i don't think he's going to be a trump. but he's the nearest thing among the professional politicians.
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principled insurgent outsider. the difficult he has is you can sit this out not attacking trump, waiting for trump to implode. but if it's the week before that and he imploded that strategy won't look so smart. >> he's a smart debater. he always seems to be short changed in these debates. kasich, huckabee, who else have i forgotten here? i think we've pretty much covered everyone else. >> kasich i think is in danger of becoming this season's jon huntsman. >> why do you say that? >> because he's someone whose conservatism seems to have wandered a little too far over to the mushy middle. and there may be a calculation to that, but as he sees it, there's a gap on the sort of -- on the kind of left of the republican. >> you think he's going, you think he's consciously going for the mother establishment vote to
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maybe replace walker or -- >> look at it this way. if jeb bush is supposed to be the compassionate conservative guy who thinks illegal immigration is an act of love and jeb has been a low-energy disaster, then the question is maybe that's the gap in the market, to be the kind of soft left republican left candidate that people
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so who is the best debater in the field? fox news senior correspondent geraldo rivera. who won this debate? >> carly fiorina so far. she's smoking, giving good answers. >> she's smart. >> trump cut her down somewhat with the hewlett-packard business history, the woeful history of the decision she made as a ceo. but she was feisty and articulate. >> charles, go ahead, you are talking in my ear. >> did you see the look, though, that she gave donald trump after they had that little face-off about the take a look at that face. she shot daggers at him. i agree with geraldo. she's been the most successful so far at actually going after him. >> you know, it was interesting. somebody sent this -- i'm going to look at this just as i get off the air. did she once take a shot at
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barbara boxer's hair? >> she didn't know she was on mike. >> you've made a career out of this, geraldo. she said something about her hair. carly, i think, made the single-best general impression tonight so far. and had the best moment counterpunching on that comment from donald trump. rubio very good. every single answer got applause. >> he's a smart sensitive guy. >> he memorized everything. sounds rote to me. he was okay. he was solid but kind of wonky. >> do you think this translates to poll numbers in any way? >> it's always hard to predict but i'd be shocked if carly doesn't get a big -- >> what about trump? >> i know this is going to pain my friend charlie hurd who has make america great caps. i don't think they've had any memorable moment. >> wait a minute. >> what about ben carson? >> let's be honest here, trump
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had me laughing out loud. there were moments he said things that were funny. how does that translate into substance, solutions that people want? >> that's the thing. he has zero substance. i think the act is going to grow a little thin. >> even substance -- substance on immigration. he's giving you substance on isis. he even gave you substance on the economy tonight. >> i'll give you immigration. but latest "new york times" poll he's just four ahead of carson. latest new hampshire poll -- >> see carson step up to the plate. >> answer your own question. >> i think he's a wonderful, noble, spirit. >> he's a wonderful guy. >> and a class act. but i'm not sure that a class act plays in this context. you need sharp elbows. you need confidence. jeb bush seemed to shrink when donald trump attacked him. i don't think jeb bush was barely there. >> he can never land a true blow against trump. and there's opportunity after
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opportunity. he was loaded with his talking points. >> a strong beginning then kind of faded. >> he's the invisible man. first of all, physically in terms of stature, he reminds me of michael dukakis. this tiny guy surrounded by giants. how about me, how about me? i won wisconsin. i once did -- sit down. >> geez. >> charlie, juf been a strong supporter of donald trump. how do you feel he did tonight? >> you know, he's sort of beenr. he never steps out of character. but i do think jeb bush probably had the most energetic moment i've seen of the campaign. >> by the way -- i don't mean to interrupt. but when trump said to jeb, oh, more energy tonight. i was laughing. it was funny. >> it was brutal. it was devastating. he's been winning that way all along. but when jeb came back to defend his brother, i thought that that was sort of -- definitely the high water mark for jeb, but i also thought it was a very risky strategy on the part of trump to
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then full-on go and attack george w. bush and the war in iraq and in a very pointed way. and i wonder if that -- i wonder how that winds up playing in the polls. >> is that going to be the moment that people focus on? i think it's going to be the battle with him and carly. that becomes the headline tomorrow is my guess. >> that's the big moment. everyone will replay it. the big losers besides walker was one is rand paul is completely disappearing. kasich has lurched to the left. >> it surprised me. especially on taking in the refugees and immigration. >> yes. >> i don't think that's going to resonate -- >> appeal to geraldo. geraldo just said something nice about him. >> my office right here in -- >> you are a republican. >> you are at one point -- >> you guys are so far out there on the right, you don't recognize your own party. >> geraldo will lead the picket lines if donald trump is elected
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and tries to deport people. >> we'll see you back at 1:00 by the way? come on, stick around. hillary is now hosting a viewing party. she's probably being warm and telling jokes and acting like chris rock. but ed henry is standing by. >> she did lie about benghazi, she did lie about her e-mails and she did lie about her server. >> would you rather have hillary negotiating or would you rather have trump? >> better be worried because the republican presidential candidates are coming after her. coming up next, i go one on one with a former obama adviser about how another clinton presidency would be a disaster. ♪
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ed henry. did they actually let you in? they're not known for treating you media guys well. >> yeah, that's all right. they're treating me fairly tonight. they brought me in with the rest of the press corps. pizza and beer here in brooklyn. in all seriousness, her senior staff as well as the press corps watching this debate tonight. i think what the initial reaction that's interesting is hillary clinton's campaign manager robbie mook is here. he's the field general trying to figure out how she'll deal with the slumping poll numbers. what caught his eye was carly fiorina. you played a bite a moment ago, hitting hard on benghazi. she said she was lying on that issue and lying about the e-mail server. then went on, obviously, about planned parenthood. it was very graphic, very direct, very blunt in saying babies were killed. hillary clinton is condoning this. robbie mook's reaction was he felt carly fiorina went too harsh, went overboard, and the
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bottom line from the clinton camp is that they felt that donald trump is once again as the front-runner dominating this republican debate. in their view, at least, that donald trump is pulling a lot of the candidates to the right on issues like planned parenthood, cutting off the funding, like immigration, illegal immigration, cracking down on it, that on a broad spectrum of issues now trump is leading the way and it's sort of a race to the right. we'll see if they're right or not. but that's the view from the clinton camp. the other interesting thing is that, moving forward, hillary clinton tomorrow is heading to new hampshire for three straight days of campaigning. that is a lot of campaigning in one state, more than we've seen her do before. that's because bernie sanders is beating her in new hampshire. he's leading her in iowa, those first in the nation caucuses. this is a campaign, a bright spot that they saw, by the way, is in the under-card debate, the earlier one, republican lindsey graham at one point said that
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hillary clinton has a list that's a mile long in terms of things she's done to help the middle class. i think lindsey graham's point was that republicans can't just talk about e-mails and other issues. they have to start talking more about the middle class and battle hillary clinton mano a mano. here at the clinton camp they're highlighting that quote, obviously, because they're saying, yes, she has a whole list of policies to help the middle class. that's their view. some of those will be pushed back upon by these republican candidates. the broader point is this campaign is hoping to get beyond the e-mail controversy and start talking about her middle-class message again. as you know with these sliding poll numbers and that looming fbi investigation, they've been struggling to get back to her broader message. >> matt drudge has a flash poll up. in the break i took the latest numbers. trump winning with 62% of that vote. carly fiorina second with 16,000 and ted cruz in third place. very interesting observation.
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that poll in terms of predicting the trump rise after the first debate. we'll see if it's right this time. anyway, ed, thank you. appreciate it. >> especially because they're all outsiders. >> true, good point. we've seen disagreement and debate between the kacandidates running for president. one thing they've had is they've rallied behind hillary clinton must not be president. they've all said it. >> we have to have a nominee who will point out hillary clinton's lack of accomplishment. we have to have a nominee who points out that she's not trustworthy. she did lie about benghazi, she did lie about her e-mails and she did lie about her server. >> hillary clinton would be worse. she would be worse as president than this president, and that's hard to do. >> she's desperate, she's panicked. her campaign is in a bad shape. i think it was tucker a few minutes ago that was talking about it. here views are the ones that are radical.
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>> hillary clinton doesn't believe we can grow faster than 2% because she doesn't believe in your ability to rise to the challenge. >> hillary, who by the way, was the worst secretary of state in the history of our country. would you rather have hillary negotiating or would you rather have trump? >> all right. joining us with reaction, former economic adviser to the obama administration, in other words, the people that doubled our debt added tens of millions more american food stamps and on welfare and in poverty, austan goolsbee helped do that. sir, welcome back. >> thanks for having me, sean. but are you not embarrassed? literally the cnn campaign is treating ed henry to dinner better than you treated me to dinner when i beat you in a bet! >> i bought you a ruth's chris steak dinner. >> you tried to throw spending at the problem. >> i give you something for free. you should be happy. why aren't you happy? you got free stuff.
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>> it actually was a delicious meal. >> let me ask this. hillary secretary of state supports the iran deal. 150 billion dollars. they spin their centrifuges. zero breakout time in 11 years. they get a missile defense system with russia, they build icbms. they get more conventional weapons. 24-day inspection. they pick inspectors in some cases. tell me something that america got. give me three things. >> look, i think we open the possibility to redefine the structure in the middle east. i think we get inspections that -- >> 24 days later? 24 days? 24 days later? that's like telling your kid, you think -- >> i have heard that the 24-day thing is not accurate. that that's not exactly how it works. >> actually, it's accurate. that is true. and non-american inspectors.
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>> so 24 days later there's still going to be radioactive material that can be detected. >> but that's not necessarily all that they're looking for. we didn't even get four hostages. i name you one specific thing after another that they got. tell me what we got. what did we get except the hope that the -- >> we shut down the plutonium. >> no. >> we shut down their plutonium production and they cannot make a plutonium bomb. >> they still spin their centrifuges. >> not with plutonium. not for the plutonium. the second is under the tough guy regime, they built 10,000 centrifuges. that was under the bush sanctions. you can't really say that if they -- >> we give the united states sponsor of terror, the number one state sponsor of terror is getting the equivalent of 8 trillion u.s. dollar. $150 billion. >> first it was 100 million, now
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800 trillion. >> chanting death to america and promising that the destruction of israel is nonnegotiable. and you support that? >> i do not support that, obviously, i don't support that. i am highly concerned about their role as state sponsor of terrorism. >> it's a bad deal, say it. >> i thought what kasich said in the debate was correct, which is if they start using it and engage in those kind of behavior, put the sanctions back on. >> it's too late. they have 150 billion. they have enough money to spread their terror for decades. >> all of this under the previous regime, sean. >> obama doubled the debt, added millions to the poverty. obama did that. your economic plan did that. >> no. >> millions more in poverty. >> we prevented a depression. >> own it. >> that you supported. >> he will accumulate more debt than any every other president before him combined. own it. >> he cut the deficit more than any other president before him. >> oh, my gosh.
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there's no hope for you. good to see you. coming up next on "hannity" -- >> this is going to be a campaign like i think no other. i'm not controlled by lobbyists, i'm not controlled by anybody. >> outsider candidate and surging candidates are now surging in the polls. steve hayes is next. a love affair. a quest. the next horizon. everyone loves the chase.
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misswill turn anan asphalt parking lot into a new neighborhood for san franciscans. a vote for "yes" on "d" is definitely a vote for more parks and open space. a vote on proposition "d" is a vote for jobs. campos: no one is being displaced. it's 40% affordable units near the waterfront for regular people. this is just a win-win for our city. i'm behind it 100%. voting yes on "d" is so helpful to so many families in our city.
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. welcome back to "hannity". wire outsider looking at presidential candidates, why are they gaining in popularity? and resonating with you, the voters? joining us now, steve hays. steve, you've been saying over and over again, you don't like this. looking at the drudge report, it doesn't mean a lot. snap poll, 62%, trump. why is this happening? >> it's a good question. and will be very interesting to see if the track poll in a week or two weeks as we look at how things go. i didn't think trump had a good night. he seemed to be on personality, not as much substance. he was overshadowed several
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times by carly fiorina and marco rubio when talking about foreign policy. it wasn't a great night for him from my perspective. that could mean a great night for donald trump. you don't know. >> you have a precedence on this. so we'll go to jedadiah. >> i don't think he had a great night. i think with these outsiders people look at them and say do you know what? they sound like me. i don't self censor. i'm not taking talking points. i'm just speaking my behind. ben carson has a humble, authentic energy. carly fiorina, tells it like it is. does it beautifully. wordsxd things beautifully but e sounds like a real person speaking from the heart. donald trump is not going to do that. that is who he is.
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i think people are looking and saying people that aren't conventional politicians who i can trust. >> that is interesting. what do you think about the more conventional candidates? jeb bushes, the scott walkers? the marcos? what do you think about them? how did they do tonight? john kasich, maybe, add to that group. >> i don't think jeb bush or john kasich had good nights tonight. jeb bush had one exchange about john roberts i think bush got the better of the two. if you're jeb bush i don't think that is a good result for you. john kasich didn't really stand out. scott walker, i think, started strong. >> i agree. in the beginning. had a strong start. >> very strong start, but he didn't get a question in it seemed like forever and sort of disappeared. i think the clear winners were farley fiorina and marco rubio.
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fiorina had sort of made for video moments. >> about 20 seconds. you agree on the marco part? >> i think he made the most of his time. i think when he spoke he resonated with voters and i think chris christie had a good night putting the camera on to voters and redirecting the conversation. everybody else was bickering. what people like about donald trump that toughness and chris
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misswill turn anan asphalt parking lot into a new neighborhood for san franciscans. a vote for "yes" on "d" is definitely a vote for more parks and open space. a vote on proposition "d" is a vote for jobs. campos: no one is being displaced. it's 40% affordable units near the waterfront for regular people. this is just a win-win for our city. i'm behind it 100%. voting yes on "d" is so helpful to so many families in our city. . welcome back to "hannity". that is all the time we have left but stay with fox news channel for the best post debate coverage. why? because i'm going to stay up late, especially for you guys on
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the west coast, we'll be back at 1:00 a.m. eastern with many of the presidential candidates. see you then. hi, i'm bill o'reilly, thanks for watching for us tonight for the factor's analysis of the second republican debate. we have a strong line up for you and asking our guests tonight, to grade the debaters a-f. the cnn moderators made the debate very personal. time after time, trump said this. how do you respond, governor bush? or rand paul? or ben carson? that was a waste of

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