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tony blair, josh earnest and rick perry. >> who admits that -- >> i would never. >> thank you for joining us this weekend. with all of our good pope coverage. good morning. the speaker of the house stepping down as the presidential race heats up. good morning, everyone. i'm maria bartiromo. welcome to "sunday morning futures." john boehner getting mixed reaction this morning. where does the party stand and how does boehner's decision impact the race to the white house? plus, president obama seeing eye to eye with chinese president xi on cybersecurity a few months after a major government hack linked to the far east superpower. jon huntsman on that. and whether we can bring some of the jobs in china back home to america. plus, basketball hall of famer kareem abdul-jabbar with strong
words for presidential candidates. he says they're sending the wrong message on the campaign trail as we look ahead this morning on "sunday morning futures." lightning bolt hits washington. the man second in line for the presidency, after the vice president, and one of the most powerful figures on capitol hill calling it quits. late last week. house speaker john boehner sending shock waves through congress and announcing he will step down from his leadership post and house seat at the end of october. the surprise resignation raising questions of why he did it and who will replace him. byron york is chief political correspondent for "the washington examineexaminer" and news contributor. thank you for joining us. what is the impact of boehner's resignation? >> there is no doubt there are a lot of conservatives in washington who are cheering over this. there was a big conservative gathering in washington on friday, and when boehner's resignation was announced, there was a standing ovation. they were cheering.
so they're very happy. the problem is the next speaker, which is probably going to be representative can kevin mccarthy, is go to face the same problems that boehner did. the biggest one is, a minority of democratic senators in the house can stop whatever republicans want to do. if they want to defund obamacare, that can be stopped in the senate. if they want to defund planned parenthood, that can be stopped in the senate. the frustrations that conservative feel about not being able to work their will in washington are going to still be there. >> i guess conservatives wanted to see a bigger dent in obamacare. they wanted to be a big -- a bigger dent in immigration. maybe they just wanted to see more bills passed that landed on the president's desk that the president would then veto. how come we didn't see that, byron. we speak about this a lot when the republicans first won in november. that's where they said they were going to do. put lots of bills in front of the president and he would veto them and that would show the president's legacy.
how come that hasn't happened? >> a lot of conservatives just wanted to see more fight. some of them said, look, we know you're not going to win every one of these fights, we want to see you fight. the fact is they ran up against numbers in the senate. for example, the president's executive action on immigration, a lot of republicans wanted to overturn that, they cannot do so. besides, republicans themselves were divided about that. same thing on obamacare. and now you're seeing the same thing play out with the planned parenthood fight. that is there are republicans dead set against any sort of government shutdown strategy, that is attaching a planned parenthood defunding provision it a must pass spending bill, probably not going to happen now. with a mixture of republican divisions, plus remaining democratic strength in the minority in the senate, republicans have not been able to get anything done. >> you're right. we want to talk a bit more about some of the things that boehner
was working on, like the dodd frank legislation, where does that stand and the potential government shutdown this upcoming week, october 1. stay with us. lots to talk about with you. we want it look at speaker boehner's departure and what it means for the republican party going forward. eric shawn with that angle. >> good morning. what's next? john boehner's departure could bring new opportunity or more of the same to washington. >> i now have this gavel and the sacred trust that goes with it to the new speaker. god bless you, speaker boehner. >> he started with such fresh hope and prospects. the bartender son from ohio was sent into the speakership nearly five years ago. a stunningly surprising exit has unleashed uncertainty and criticism. >> not about him or anybody else and i'm not here today to bash anyone, but the time has come to turn the page. the time has come to turn the
page and allow a new generation of leadership in this country. >> -- the speaker before he resigns to cut a deal with nancy pelosi to -- that is not the behavior one would expect of the republican speaker. >> a variety of potential candidates, more conservative than boehner in the running, as byron pointed out, the odds are that number two majority leader california congressman kevin mccarthy is the leading candidate. the most recent fox news poll starkly illustrates the republican divide. it shows the majority of republican primary voters, 62%, say they feel betrayed by their party. and some, like investor business daily predict the unexpected vacancy brings new possibilities saying, quote, this is not a setback. it is an opportunity. but whoever replaces boehner, better be a vision and aggressiveness. gop supporters are sick of feeling betrayed. in the wake of mr. boehner's
departure, there are calls that mcconnell should also walk the plank. it seems the number one priority for the next speaker will be to try to stop some of his colleagues from continuing to shoot inside the tent and instead legislative fire at the democrats which, after all, is why the republican voters sent them to capitol hill in the first place. maria? >> great analysis. thanks so much. eric shawn. more with our guest this morning, byron york, chief political correspondent for "the washington examiner". a brand-new fox poll shows political outsiders leading in the gop race for the nomination. donald trump on top with 26%. ben carson not far behind at 18%. carly fiorina, senator marco rubio, tied for third with 9%. you are looking at this and you have to believe that this is one of the reasons that boehner was basically saw the light to step down. people are sick and tired of the
establishment. >> yeah. a lot of news in that. trump is still strong, even if he was lower than late august, early september. trump is strong. a huge jump by carly fiorina after her debate performance in -- at the reagan library. marco rubio, saw him, addressing that big conservative conference in washington. clearly coming up after had his debate performance. the other two big things to remember, talk about this outsider and establishment thing, jeb bush lost about half of his support since july, really big development there. and, of course, scott walker is the biggest loser of all, was thought to appeal to some establishment types and now he's out of the race altogether. >> that's a great point. what do you think jeb bush has to do now. after losing all of that support. >> well, if you talk to the bush people, they say slow and steady, slow and steady, this is a marathon, this is -- not any quick race for the -- for today's polls. but the thing is, he needs to
win iowa or new hampshire is what he needs to do and he's not in a strong position in either one. the bush campaign talks about how you go on, there is south carolina, nevada, florida, the primaries, all of these other races, but republican candidates for president come from either the winner of iowa or new hampshire, very unusual to lose both and go on. so i think you'll eventually see jeb bush putting a lot of energy into those early stakes. >> what do you think the policy around jeb bush is, that is mostly sort of, you know, thought about had he talks, still waiting for grand lair ty and specifics on policy from all of the candidates, what do you think we think about when you think about jeb bush in terms of what he's strongest on. >> well, he would say he's already rolled out an attack plan, already made his positions clear on a number of things. i think the problem with bush is that he's just not really excited very many people. he's not connected with people.
he was on the stephen colbert show earlier and he was asked about the exclamation point at the end of his name and the logo, he said it co-notes excitement. it actually doesn't. i think he actually needs to connect more with voters and that's just not happening in a big way right now. >> that's really funny, actually. that's a very good point. back to the boehner story, let me get your take on the impact in terms of the economy and markets. do you expect the government shuts down on thursday? this upcoming week? and what are the most important sort of items on the agenda that boehner was working on that perhaps could be up for question right now. >> first of all, in the government shutdown, absolutely not. just -- i don't see that happening. on the agenda, yes, there are plenty of things that could be done. remember the republicans have never, ever rolled out their own alternative to obama care that they all united behind.
so there were a lot of things they could do. but i cannot overemphasize the degree to which a lot of republican leaders believe nothing is going to happen until there is a new president. i think what you're going to see is a lot of standing in place measures, funding bills that just keep the government funded at its current level, no big policy changes. essentially nothing happening until the presidential election is resolved. i think that's a very, very strong opinion among top republicans here in washington. >> for sure. so at this moment in time, who does byron york think that person will be? >> i have long ago gotten out of the presidential election prediction business. i will tell you a lot of insiders certainly believe that carson and trump will eventually fade, they're very impressed with fiorina's strength, they believe that marco rubio has all of the factors that they want to
see in a general election candidate. but i'll tell you, who a week ago would have thought that scott walker would be out of the rees, and that john boehner would no longer be speaker? a lot of surprises going on and no one believes they're going to stop. >> byron, thank you very much. we'll see you back here. the leaders of the world's two largest economies agree to fight cybercrime. can president obama and the chinese president really put an end to the major national security problem? follow us on twitte twitter @mariabartiromo. we're talking with jon huntsman coming up. what would you like to hear from him about china. we're looking ahead on "sunday morning futures."
cybersecurity with the president of china. two leaders meeting on friday, both promising to join together to fight cybertheft. cybercrimes are playing out on a one way street. >> i raised once again our very serious concerns about growing cyberthreats to american companies and american citizens. i indicated that it has to stop. the united states government does not engage in cybereconomic espionage for commercial gain. >> former utah governor jon huntsman is also a former u.s. ambassador to china and we welcome him to the program. good to see you. thank you for joining us. >> delighted. >> your observation to the chinese president's visit and specifically as it relates to cybercrime. >> the chinese are playing the long game and as such they're benefiting enormously from intellectual property theft. mostly from u.s. firms, which is
probably costing the united states and our economy 200 to $300 billion a year. we play the short game typically in the united states. xi jinping in this visit was to telegraph back to his constituencies at home that he's strong, capable, he's a leader on the world stage, he can manage the most important relationship in the world, and for us, we clearly wanted deliverables. there weren't any deliverables on the south china sea, which is probably the most pressing security challenge in our relationship. and there was a little bit of language in the joint statement relevant to ip theft. but in terms of really doing anything about it, with articulated sanctions or threat to do something if china doesn't stop their behavior wasn't laid out. words are cheap. we'll see if in the aftermath, because there will be additional ip theft incidents, no doubt about that. if the united states will be willing to do what some of us
called for, a couple ofago, in , which is to use the power of our market, to block products that are coming in, develop eed by companies stealing our intellectual property, which is robbing us of jobs, of innovation and longer term hurting our economy. >> right, so do you think that was threatened or discussed. we can say things, the president can say things about how important this issue is, and we're not going to tolerate it, but like you said, it is just words, so was this meeting just a joyride or you said no deliverables. >> the -- i've been in these meetings a thousand times, the chinese like words and joint statements. any respect leverage. and you have to have leverage in the game if you're going to make any progress at all. as it relates to ip theft, the leverage we have that they respect most and they fear most is closing down our market. the idea that you might deploy section 337 of the u.s. trade
act to block goods or coming into the united states made by chinese companies that are ripping off our intellectual property is something we ought to consider. the idea that chinese companies are gaining access to capital from financial institutions, where it ought to be blocked and ought to be treated as if it were a money laundering case is something that should be considered. the idea that chinese companies ultimately want to go public on the new york stock exchange or out to be some provision where by there is a review process with the s.e.c., if a company has been involved at all in ripping off u.s. intellectual property, then there ought to be some sort of sanction against that. these are all areas that clearly would get the attention of the chinese, but i'm in the sure they were spelled out in any specific detail. >> you make a great point all around. all the things you're hitting on resonate with the american people. let's be honest. none of that was said. so there really isn't any of that sort of hard hitting america will do this if this
keeps up. so here we are, and -- nothing happens. here is the photo-op. >> this was a rose garden photo-op with a joint statement, but i have to give the administration credit for at least enthshrining the whole ise in the joint statement. that was tried before and no one succeeded. now the conversation has been framed. there is not a lot of content to it. it has been framed and we'll see where it goes from here. now you begin adding content, a very crystal clear understanding between the united states and china that if ip theft is ripped off, there will be immediate consequences that will be quite painful. that will have to come next and we'll see. >> speaking to the united nations general assembly tomorrow, the president of china is. this is just a few weeks after the negotiations over the transpacific partnership, the
tpp trade deal. any conversation about that, the fact that china is not involved in that? >> china is not involved in that. it includes 12 countries of the asia pacific region representing 40% of the world's gdp. china has its own version of tpp called r-sap, done with their free trade partners in the region. the big difference is their standards for engagement on trade are at a much lower level than ours. it is a gold plated agreement once it is done, first quarter. the trick maria going forward will be how do you link it with tpp so trade flows aren't disrupted. you can see two trade agreements mature in the asia pacific region, with different standards. that would be a horrible outcome for prosperity in the region and for u.s. exports. so i hope -- there may have been some conversation about how you bridge tpp longer term with the china view of trade.
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we talked about how your children's books, but first the election cycle. that is the most recent comments from dr. ben carson. he has backpedals a bit saying he would accept a muslim in the white house, so long as that person rejected sharia law. we know that sharia law means, you know, killing homosexuals, women are subservient to men. tell me about sharia law. you converted to islam how many years ago? >> in 1967. a long time ago. but islam does not okay the things that you just mentioned, killing people, rape, all of these things that have been associated now with sharia law. that's crazy. none of the people that have that criticism of sharia law have checked out the law because it is not even for non-muslims. sharia law is for the ruling of an islamic state.
so sharia law could never apply here in america because america is a very diverse place. they have it all wrong. they don't know what the law states actually. and they want to distort it in order to make muslims the villain. and there is enough real villainy going on without people investing in it. >> what has happened in the country that we are, in fact, tolerating, you know, this kind of talk, like, for example, with donald trump said about mexicans. >> i think that it is very frustrating when we're being attacked by people that we don't understand and it is really easy to make up scenarios that justify our anger, our need to retaliate, our need to try to find some way to eliminate this threat. i understand that. but you can't do that in a way that takes a whole group of
people and marks them for being targets of bigotry. that's -- it doesn't work -- it ends up being more of a problem than a solution. people have to get to that point where they understand that. >> you know, i wanted you to come on this program now for a long time. you and i have spoken in the past and you've always been such a practical speaker about these issues. and i think most people don't realize how, you know, passionate you are about these subjects, i don't think most people realize your sister wafaa new york city police officer. look what happened with the nypd today. under attack, way too many shootings in the country. what do you have to say about this? >> i think it is very unfortunate that the whole idea of an overuse of force can be applied just to a certain group. i have a lot of family that live
in brooklyn. >> so do i. >> and brownsville. and it is a very violent place. and they understand the need for polices, for policemen to be active there. but the beliefs seem to overstep their mandate sometimes and too many corpses are in the morgue for no good reason. and that's a problem that has to be dealt with. but we can't abandon our need and support for the police, they have to try to find a way not to overstep the bounds when it comes to force. >> let me get to the book. you've written several children's books. that's also why i was so impressed with you. you are -- it is a passion of yours to educate our young people. this is your first novel, though. sherlock holmes brother. tell us about the book. >> the book is about sherlock holmes' brother who has always
been a mystery to people because he's not very -- not mentioned very often in the regular stories. but mycroft is someone who is back in the shadows. sherlock describes him as someone who is overweight, and sedentary, he doesn't go anywhere except to his offices, had his apartment, and the club where he helped found. and the rule at the club is that you can't talk. and that's all we know about him. a huge area for us to form his back story. so we're talking about 20 years before sherlock becomes the world's greatest consulting detective, we're talking about his brother who has just graduated from cambridge just two years on and has a great job at the british foreign office, and he's doing very well, he's an up and coming person in the foreign office, and people are
very impressed with him, and his best friend, cyrus douglas, a gentleman from the west indies, tells him that strange and horrible things are happening and he has to go home to investigate it. and that starts us on our little adventure. >> i know you've been very supportive of president obama. do you feel that the african-american community needs to hold him to account in terms of their economic lives? haven't had much success under his watch, which is surprising. >> well, for black americans it has been very difficult because president obama is president for everybody. not just the african-american president. so he has to deal with issues and policies that affect everyone and you can't -- can't just devote himself to issues that only resonate within a black community, that is not his
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favorability rating taking a hit. look at the numbers. a record high 56% of the people polled now have an unfavorable opinion of mrs. clinton. only 38% view her favorably and losing support from a key voting bloc, women. half of them now rate her negatively. is it time to panic for the hillary camp? we want to bring in ed rollins, a long time strategist to business and political leaders. he is also a fox news political analyst. judith miller and mary kissell, wall journal editorial board member. thank you for joining us. want to get to hillary right away on the polls. what do you think it shows us? >> the numbers on any other candidate would be basically drop out of the race and not run and not be electable. you can't underestimate hillary clinton. at the end of the day, a democratic party still has a lot of people that want her to be the nominee, i think there is no alternative at this point in time. sanders is no alt five.
if biden gets in, you have a race. it will be like the mondale and gary hart race, going on and on and on. >> we have a fox news alert. pope francis arriving in philadelphia where he'll speak to 100 inmates. let's listen in. >> translator: condemns to imprisonment and to fall prey to its own suffering. i stand among you, a pastor, a shepherd, but above all as your brother to share in your plight and make it my own. i am here that we may join in prayer and bring before our god everything that causes us pain. but to also bring everything that gives us hope, so that we may receive from him -- >> dear brothers and sisters, thank you for receiving me and giving me the opportunity to be here with you and to share this
time in your lives. it is difficult time, one full of struggles. i know it is a painful time not only for you, but also for your families and for all of society. any society, any family which cannot share or take seriously the pain of its children and view that pain as something normal or to be expected is a society condemned to remain a hostage to itself. pray to the very things that cause that pain. i am here as a pastor. but above all, as a brother, to share your situation and to make it my own. i have come so that we can pray together, and offer our god everything that causes us pain, but also everything that gives us hope so that we can receive from him the power of the resurrection.
>> translator: i am reminded of the gospel when jesus washes the feet of his disciples at the last supper, and the disciples were puzzled by this. peter even refused and he said, he shall never watch my feet. >> i think of the gospel scene where jesus washes the feet of his disciples at the last supper. this is something his disciples found hard to accept. even peter refused and told him, you will never wash my feet. >> translator: back then, when you went to visit someone, the host would wash your feet. people were traditionally welcomed this way because the roads were not paved, they were
covered in dust, with pebbles that would get stuck in your sandal sandals. after walking on these roads, everyone's feet were caked in dust, bruised or cut from the stones. so there was jesus, washing feet, our feet, his disciples' feet -- >> in those days it was accustomed to wash someone's feet when they came to your home. that was how they welcomed people. the roads were not paved. they were covered with dust. and little stones would get stuck in your sandals. everyone walked those roads, which left their feet dusty, bruised or cut from those stones. that is why we see jesus washing feet, our feet, the feet of his discip disciples, then and now.
>> we know in faith that jesus seeks us out, he wants to heal our wounds, to soothe our feet, which hurt from traveling alone, to wash each of us clean of the dust from our journey. he doesn't ask us where we have been, he doesn't question us what about we have done about what we have done, rather he tells us unless i wash your feet, you have no share with me. unless i wash your feet, i will not be able to give you the life which the father always dreamed of, the life for which he created you. jesus comes to us so that he can restore our dignity as children of god. he wants to help us to set out again, to resume our journey, to recover our hope, to restore our
faith and trust. he wants us to keep walking along the paths of life, to realize that we have a mission and that confinement is not the same thing as exclusion. >> translator: life means getting our feet dirty. in the dust-filled roads of life and of history. all of us need to be cleanse d, to be washed, always. and i am the first among. all of us are being sought out by the teacher who wants to help us resume our journey. the lord goes searching for us all. to give us his hand. it is painful when we see prison
systems which are not concerned to care for wounds, to soothe pain, to offer new possibilities, it is painful when we see people who think that only some others need to be cleansed, purify ied, and not recognize that wariness, pain and wounds are also the weariness, pain and wounds of society as a whole. the lord tells us clearly with a sign, he washes our feet so we can come back to the table. the table from which he wishes no one to be excluded. the table which has been prepared for all of us and to which all of us are invited.
>> life means getting our feet dirty, from the dust-filled roads of life and history, all of us need to be cleansed, to be washed, all of us, and me in first place. all of us are being sought out by the teacher, who wants to help us resume our journey. the lord goes in search of us, to all of us he stretches out a helping hand. it is painful when we see prison systems which are not concerned to care for wounds, to soothe pain, to offer new possibilities. it is painful when we see people who think that only others need to be cleansed, purified, and do not recognize that they're weariness, pain and wounds are also the weariness, pain and wounds of society. the lord tells us this clearly with a sign. he washes our feet, so that we can come back to the table.
the table from which he wishes no one to be excluded. the table which is spread for all, and to which all of us are invited. >> translator: this time in your life, can have but one purpose, to give you a helping hand to get back on the right path, to give you a hand to help you rejoin society. all of us are part of that effort, all of us are invited to encourage, help and enable your rehabilitation. your rehabilitation which everyone seeks and desires. inmates and their families, correctional authorities, social and educational programs.
a rehabilitation which benefits and elevates the morale of the entire community. and of society as a whole. >> this time in your life can only have one purpose, to give you a hand in getting back on the right road, to give you a hand to help you rejoin society, all of us are part of that effort. all of us are invited to encourage, help, and enable your rehabilitation. a rehabilitation which everyone seeks and desires. inmates and their families, correctional authorities, social and educational programs. a rehabilitation which benefits and elevates the morale of the entire community and society. >> translator: i would like to encourage you to have this attitude among you and with all other people who are part of
this institution, forge opportunities for one another, forge paths, forge new roadways. >> i encourage you to have this attitude with one another and with all those who are in any way part of this institution. may you make possible new opportunities, new journeys, new paths. >> translator: all of us have something we need to be cleansed of. or purified from. all of us. may the knowledge of that fact inspire us to live in solidarity, to support one another, and to seek the best for others. >> all of us have something we need to be cleansed of or purify the from, all of us. may the knowledge of that fact inspire us to live in solidarity to support one another and seek
the best for others. >> translator: let us look to jesus who washes our feet, he is the way, the truth and the ligh. he comes to save us from the life that says that no one can chan change. the lie that says that no one can change. he helps us to journey along the paths of life and fulfillment. may the power of his love and resurrection always be a path leading you to a new life. >> let us look to jesus who washes our feet. he is the way, the truth and the life. he comes to save us from the lie that says no one can change, from the lie that says no one can change.
and as we are now seated now in silen silence, we ask the lord to bless us. may god bless you and protect you. and may his face shine upon you. and may he grant you peace. thank you. [ applause ] all right. that was pope francis speaking to the inmates. we're going to keep following the pope's trip and bring it back to you live as the news warrants. we're with our panel this morning, talking about
hillary clinton and the latest e-mail developments. mary i want you to jump in here. >> she said she's been as transparent as possible. nothing she's said so far that is turned out to be true. now it was for government work. she says she's turned over all of the e-mails and we find out she delighted 230,000. they claims the state's request was routine. we find it was unusual. now we find out she was using the account in january of her tender. no classified information, the inspectors general tell us there is classified information here. nothing holds up. >> you have to remember, when she was the first lady and whitewater was not front and center she could not find the documents. she was subpoenaed. two years later, she said we found it in the closet in the
white house, and it's the same pattern. >> the poll numbers have been reflecting this, right? joe biden is not even in the race and -- >> he's waiting to see what happens, but the fact that bill clinton had to go on the air today to defend his wife so say she's the victim of the media, it's all our fault, noes, it is not our fault. it happens to be the fault of the candidate, who was the most respected personart this had campaign, the most respected woman in america, but whose lies, inconsistencies and statements have finally caught up with her. but to blame the media is vintage bill clinton. >> you know it's bad when bill clinton is jumping n. right? this is pratt and distinct from the job she does as secretary of state, we're not even talking about that disastrous run. >> yeah, it's interesting.
when you look at what's going on with bernie sanders and joe biden as well. >> if you would have taken the weakest member of the senate, and bernie sanders is going to give her a run for her money, it shows the vulnerability that's there. and with bernie sanders wanting 92% tax rate. give me your take on john boehner. >> big story. i'm not shocked by it. john i think was tired of the battle. i think the timing is what shocked everybody. in a way it's good for the republicans, they'll have a new leader. kevin mccarthy is the often choice, but he better make a lot of concessions to the conservatives otherwise he won't last long, either. >> i think it shows a full-fledged ward in the republican party. i noticed bobby jindal said mitch mcconnell is next,
referring to the senate. the tea parties intends to take down the leadership. i think that bodes very ill for republicans. >> i think is shows there's a faction of the party that wants gimmicks and stunts and doesn't actually want to accomplish anything. let's be clear. john boehner did have accomplishments in a very difficult time for his speakership, the sequester, a major accomplishment the expiring of the import/export bank, limited entitlement reform. it's simply not true to say he didn't do anything or john boehner wasn't a conservative. he absolutely was, but republicans have to understand they will not accomplish major reform with president obama in the white house. that's how our system of government works. you have to take back the white house. >> at the end of the day, i don't disagree with any of that, and john boehner was not what they needed today. it was a whole different congress. he could not count and figure out who the dissidents were and
he couldn't please them. to the hard-core conservatives out there, they were not positive. >> but he did protect people from higher taxes. he pushed back on obama policies. >> he did. >> i guess as much as he could. let's talk a break and look at the most important thing to watch in the week ahead. we're back with "sunday morning futures" in a moment.
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interview. i'll be talking with jeb bush, and eric cantor, and madeleine albright. tomorrow, "mornings with maria" is at 6:00. have a great sunday, everybody. this is a fox news alert. pope francis is meeting with inmates and their families at the largest prison in philadelphia. the pope just finished his remarks in which he talked about how he is there as a brother, not just a pastor. all of us need to be cleansed, to be washed, he said. the pope also saying it is paintful when we see prison systems that are not concerned with care for wounds, to soothe pains and offer possibilities. he has made a practice of speaking with inmates in prisons, as he has meeting with the hungry and homeless.