tv The Kelly File FOX News October 1, 2015 9:00pm-10:01pm PDT
we'll see you tomorrow for another edition of "the factor." >> breaking tonight, here we go again. another mass shooting in a gun-free zone. and another presidential statement attacking gun rights supporters. at this hour, we are awaiting a news conference following a mass shooting. we are getting a lot of new information about the killer and what cops have found at the scene. welcome to the kelly file, everyone. i'm megyn kelly. >> a community shaken to its core.
he then opened fire. one horrified witness describes what happened next. >> see, i was oids center hall. it's in my jeep. talking to gun recruiter. we heard a gunshot. i saw the gunman with a small-caliber handgun. then we went in towards snyder hall. i heard three or four shots. from what we understand, he went into multiple classrooms, at least two, we're told. when it was all over, at least ten people were dead, seven more injured. they just updated those numbers moments ago. we were just getting reports that four guns were found at the scene.
three pistols and a long riechl. we're also hearing that police may have found a cell phone that helped them identify the suspect and his car. but, as of right now, they are still, 9:00 p.m. eastern time, not publicly sharing that information. our own dan springer has just arrived with the very latest. dan. megyn, as you can imagine, this is a county of only 107 people. local, state officials on the scene going through the community college, which is about a mile and a half down this road. we are being kept that far away, the tape is up, we're being kept that far away as we process the incredibly large scene, the shooting scene at the campus. also, interview all of the witnesses that heard or saw anything. the number of dead and wounded seems to be in flux. you mentioned that there are ten people dead. we know the sheriff john hanlin held a short news conference an
hour ago and said there are ten dead and seven wounded. since then, the closest hospital has reported that one of the critically injured taken there had died. and to make matters more confusing, the state's attorney general first reported at 10:38 this morning. a lone gunman walked into a classroom and reported everyone to lie face down on the ground. >> i looked out the window and there was a couple running away from the building and then i heard screaming. i looked out and i saw the people running.
i said to the teacher we've got to get out of the heefr right now. >> now, two or three officers arrived quickly. the closest state patrol office is just about a mile away. they got into the shootout with the gunman. again, as i mentioned, a gun-free zone where a gunman was able to get four weapons on the campus here. i want to tell you that it's being described that there's
only one security officer at the campus this morning. >> joining us now, kendra where the shots were fired. >> well, i first heard one single gunshot. and my class didn't understand it. we thought it was the science class. and then we heard another one go off. one of the students in our class ended up leaving and she came back and told us there was a gun. >> so a female student got up and decided to go toward what was the danger and she came back shot? >> yes. >> describe what happened when she walks back into the room and you saw her injured? >> she stumbled back. she was shot in the arm and then
stumbled back. she didn't say anything for 20 min you wills. >> did she collapse? what happened to her? >> she collapsed and we were trying to keep her alive while keeping ourselves safe. >> what did the rest of the class do. how many times was she shot and where? she was shot twice. >> they shut the door, shut all the lights off. we did what we were taught as we were younger to hide under the desk. but what's that going to do for you? >> they just went off. it was an automatic. it had to have been.
eight rounds went off in five seconds. i mean, it was -- i never heard that many gunshots in my entire life. >> do you believe that that was the moment he was killing the people next door? >> yeah. i mean, it doesn't -- yes, it happens easy 50 rounds went off. >> i was huddled up with some of my other kwlasz mates. >> when you walked out of that
i'm so grate vl that you're still here to tell the story. thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you. these kids are trying to get an education and improve their lives. wheel we await more information on the shooter, we're trying to find out why. >> is this just part of a landscape now. that is what president obama said earlier tonight. is this a new normal? a fox news contributor and
author of "things that matter" now out in paperback. charles, the president says this has become ru teen. he comes out and says we have become numb to these repeated, mass shootings. >> look, i don't think that anymore are numb than we are with the 10, 20, 30,0 0 traffic deaths a year. and we accept it. look, here, we don't accept it and we know that this -- these are acts of evil or of madness, which always make us uncomfortable. the question is do we have a solution to it. and for the president to come out and speak immediately about this before we know who did it, before we know what kind of weapon was used, before we know
how the weapon was attained and to make a case for gun control, i don't think this is political in the sense that he thinks it's going to gain in the constituency. but i do question his judgment. obama himself said we treat terrorism in a very different way. it's not an issue of gun control. no one knows whether this is the act of a madman or terrorists. >> what about mental health? we were going to take a hard look at that in this country. what ever happened to looking at mental health in the country? >> look, i've been on this case for 30 years. we have become far more, i guess the word is libertarian in the
way that we treat the mentally ill. >> one of the reasons we have people dying in the streets because when i was in practice many years ago, it was much easier to commit someone who was clearly psychotic, had no one to help him or her and to put them into treatment and at least they would get some help. it's much harder to do anything like that now. >> the question i have for you is is it going to stop? it's much easier to be disconnected. is that just the reality of america in 2015? we're going to see more shootings? >> it's a reality. but we are desensitized because we are involved in our iphones. it's not because of any change in the psyche of the country. it's because we're a country of 300 million people. we believe that almost no one does.
they were begging for the authorities to do something. but under our laws, which allow maximum freedom, the mother couldn't do a damn thing until he killed. and that's a problem in our society to balance security and liberty. and we had tilted towards liberty, which is completely understandable. and, as a result of that, and the same with possession of guns, as a result of that, we who live in the far more liberal in the sense of believing inrty in the west we have these incidents. that are a result of that. whatever we choose, we're going the lose something. >> charles, thank you. >> my pleasure. >> as charles mentioned,
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we are not the only country on earth that has people with mental illnesses or want to do harm to other people. we are the only advanced country on earth that sees these kind of mass shootings every few months. >> that was president obama just hours after a gunman opened fire. we do not yet know the gunman's motive or owl he got his hands on those weapons. this is yet another tragic reason for new gun control law. we have no idea how he got those guns. none. no idea. he could have stolen them from a law enforcement officer, for all we know, who had the guns legally. and, yet, the president already out there saying this is about tightening restrictions.
>> yes, it's mystifying when we absolutely hardly know anything about the fatalities. we know about the injured. but we know nothing about this individualment we don't know the motivation, aside from according to a number of witnesses. he and our thoughts and prayers by the way. i pray for the people of roseburg and of ucc. it was incredibly disappointing to see the president at a time when he should have been holding the country together to make such statements. >> when you have more gun control laws, you have fewer shootings. >> we know states with the most gun laws tend to have the fewest deaths. so the notion that gun laws don't work will just make it harder for law-abiding citizens and criminals to get it done.
>> you've literally written a book on this. is that true? you can't even driver through illinois without having your firearms stored in a certain way. we were just talking. i know it was all over the news how many there were last weekend and the week end before that. all of these incidents, just like the one in rose burg, is a tragedy. they have quite a few gun laws, as do washington, d.c., new york, new jersey. the list goes on.
we have friends of ours, allies of ours, great britain, australia, countries like ours. so we know there are ways to prevent it. >> what say you? >> not true. australia, they had a confiscation program. they didn't just have gun control, they confiscated firearms. and, i should note that while everyone is celebrating australia's low crime rate, australia's gun possession ownership is back to what it was before its preconfiscation levels. there are stimshootings that take place. we could also look at the violent gun rate and how they're classified over in britain. brazil, mexico, other countries
like hon doris, they have different laws, stronger laws than ours, and they see a higher homicide rate. they have the highest murder rate in the world. >> just bottom line it for us. what is the bottom line? people look at this and say we've got to get rid of the guns. >> gun-free are criminal protection areas. the evidence and the statistics, it's all right there. you can't refute numbers. look at the cities here in the united states. i want to make a point, too, where the president and other people have been talking about we have 45 masked shootings this year alone. that's not true. the majority of them, gang violence. >> we also have breaking news on
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who has been shot in oregon. now, we're getting several reports of the shooter's identity. consistent with our kelly file policy, we will not be revealing his name. it has been released by several news sources that you can find on line. this is a 26-year-old man which contra dikts that he was 20 relevant potentially because the legal age to purchase a gun is 21. if he was 26, obviously, he would be over the age. in any event, we're keeping our eyes on that situation and those surrounding his house. meantime, breaking tonight, akroz kroz the middle east despite our stern lecture. bearing the brunt of this assault.
at the same time, you're getting new reports that iran is sending thousands of ground troops and moscow, simultaneously, has drafted 150,000 more troops in its own country. >> we agreed on the imperative of as soon as possible. perhaps even as soon as tomorrow, but as soon as possible with having a military to military decon flix discussion. >> obviously, we would prefer on going construction. >> we have encouraged them to focus on isil. there's room for conversation. >> i mean, we would prefer -- we
encouraged them what are we doing? >> nothing. never had a strategy and now is utterly humiliated. we actually have a president spokesman today saying that the russians have lost influence in the region. this is really a problem. the russians are on the rise who are now accounting in syria. they are invited by the iraqis, as well. they are essentially taking over syria. they are our allies, the few remaining opposition forces who are not jihadi, the russians are hitting it.
the russians were completely taken in under the pretense that the russians would help in the war against isil. they are now saying we would be gravely concerned if we're not attacking isil. we are not. they lied to us. the administration, for all of its concern, is talking about not getting in the way of russians. and they not getting in the way of us. which is completely beside the point. are we watching the end of our status as a superpower? >> we areulmination of president obama. that's all he cared about. he didn't care about holding our games in iraq.
he evacuated the place. it falls apart. the militias have come in. it is no surprise. you evacuate the area. it's a superpower. everything imploeds and our allies are in absolute panic over the fact that the umbrella america has held over the region for half a century has been folded deliberately by barack obama.
>> in fact, while russia and iran are consolidating their power, the israeli prime minister was speaking to the united nations, sounding a powerful warning. watch this about the dangers of iran growing power. 70 years after the murder of 6 million jews, iran's rulers promise to destroy my country, murder my people and the response from this body has been absolutely nothing. utter silence. deafening silence.
powerful moment there. 45 seconds he stood in silence and shamed those presidents for their failure to condemn the rhetoric and intentions of the iranian regime. and, yet, hasn't that ship already saled? >>. >> no matter what decision was made, it was important for the prime minister. and i think you saw that right now, to convey a sense of what israelis feel. >> he talked about how the commander will help annihilate israel, for sure. he quoted saying there will be no israel in 25 years.
they can say these things. they can come right out and state their intentions. what we've been told here, that's just bluster. >> yeah, that's what they said 70 years ago. they said it's all domestic, political consumption. it's an out rage. i'm very proud of what the prime minister did today. i think that those countries all had to understand what every single person in israel feels 70 years that you can have a leader of iran who will call for the annihilation of another member state. >> in the meantime, we're seeing iran grow. it's going to prove very dangerous, according to the experts, as they join in partnership with syria.
does he report the russian effort? >> there's all sorts of intentions in syria. the prime minister is responsible. my god, so we're photogoing to go quite to my question, but the position on it as far as israel fans is keep iran isle way from us. >> well, the growing list of states now preparing for the worst. declaring a state of emergency ahead of hurricane joquin. and earlier this year, mitt romney said he had ruled out a 2016 run.
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