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the situation with the missing cargo ship and the horrible weather hitting the east coast at 9:00 tonight. >> that does it for us. >> on the buzz beater the media bashing jeb bush for part of his response to the horrifying campus shooting in oregon. >> stuff happens. there is always a crisis. the impulse is to do something which is not necessarily the right thing to do. >> his campaign accuses the press of dishonest distortion. is that true? >> vladimir putin's airstrikes in syria trigger an international crisis and royals the presidential campaign. the media is blaming president obama and hillary clinton but pressing the republicans for answers. rand paul is being written off and hits off by ted cruz and donald trump for downgrading the clangses, the media. >> the rumors of the demise are
exaggerated to say the least. >> i sit down with the senator on whether he can revive the struggling presidential campaign. >> and a new movie sympathetic to dan rather and his discredited story of george w. bush and the national guard. >> tonight we have new information on the president's military service. >> her to a from story. >> with the film gloss over the massive mistake made by rather and executives? >> and hillary clinton does "saturday night live." >> i'm just an ordinary citizen who believes keystone xl pipeline will destroy our pipeline. >> i agree with you there. it took me a long-term to decide that but i am against it. >> nothing wrong with taking your time. >> will that help her shake off all the bad press? i am howard kurtz and this is "media buzz."
jeb bush is hitting back hard at media after a reporter asked him to respond to the college massacre in oregon prompting president obama to renew the call for tighter gun control. here is the fuller context of what the former florida governor said and some are seizing on two words. >> it is very sad to see but i resist the notion and i had this challenge as governor. look, stuff were whats. this is always a crisis. the impulse is to do something and it is not necessary lit right thing. >> the president goes all in on gun safety for the second time in two days as jeb bush shrugs his shoulders. >> bush told us what he thinks this is the price of doing business, stuff happens, get used to it. >> the bush campaign is saying it is sad and beyond craven that
liberal democrats would dishonestly take governor bush's comments out of context. joining us is chris stirewalt and carol lee white house corporate for the "wall street journal", and joe trippi democratic strategist and fox news contributor. chris, is jeb bush right? this was a media distortion? >> yes and no. taken in a larger context, yes, and there were other comments outside of what we heard where he is being sympathetic and it was a mistake. >> i much ad it five times but it comes off as tone deaf. >> this is an issue for bush that is not just a problem for potential general election but in the primary because republicans are concerned about the persecution of christians. that is attached to this and the idea of martyrdom it is significant. bush should have been kinder.
>> it reminds me of a long list of exams of politicians who complain the media take them out of context when they say something that boomerangs? >> it reminds me of president obama during 2012 election saying, if you have a business you did not build that and republicans seized on it and the job of the media is to put it into context and not just use the one clip but explain it broadly. jeb bush said earlier about how people need to work longer hours and that was taken out context. he cannot afford these mistakes. >> mitt romney did this. "i like to fire people." ought newspapers have given a full account, some have made it more concise. joe, jeb bush is entitled to his views on gun control laws not needed and most republican candidates agree but is this a sad and crav enact by the media?
>> look, you cannot say things like this and it is like gambling in the can sent you cannot make the mistake and serve it up and not expect opponents and the press and social media to go crazy. i saw this. i tweeted immediately "stuff happens," will trend and i was wrong, it went everywhere and now you have social media driving that it was tone deaf. now he is stuck in it. you are right, it has happened over and over again with jeb bush. he has really hurt the candidacy because he is not careful about the language. on the other hand, we are in a year where people do not want anyone to be careful about the language. trump said something like this, very interesting, i am sure the media would jump all over it but
--. >> the ability to laugh it off. >> russia stunning the united states and the world by beginning airstrikes in syria supposedly because isis targets have been struck. let me give a little sample of the polarizing comments on both the left and the right. >> when assad crossed the line the president did nothing. vladimir putin could feel they can walk all over the united states. >> put say this is the only way to fight international terrorism and they are international terrorists, and the act is preventive. no wonder conservatives can barely disguise their jealous admiration for vladimir putin's strong man routine. chris? >> i would say that when the chief spokesman spore the united states said the russians would be no more successful than we were in iraq, we sort of reached
stupidity on foreign policy and we have now reached a space where every foreign policy question has to be relentlessly political sized, has to be ground down into nothing. >> there is a lot of criticism of rebound but are journalists pressing the republicans on what they would do now instead? >> certainly it is appropriate. that has been a problem for trump. it has been a problem for jeb bush and it has been a problem for some. it is to the advantage of others. i am saying when you talk about that kind of language, that bush lost a war or we lost a war, whatever, we are in garbage space. >> a journalists have short memories and i do not see a lot of reporters saying a couple of years ago obama was moving to airstrikes in syria after they used chemical weapons and there was very little support in
congress among republicans. >> little support and the white house knew that and they knew they would not win on that. >> but what he was looking to do was specific, go after the assad regime's chemical weapons not try to change the civil war through airstrikes but the dynamics have shifted. we have islamic state taking over vast parts of syria, and russia now is moving in, there is failure of different aspects of the administration's strategy happening now around the same time. the resolution coverage has been consistent. the narrative is the president is being dragged into something he reluctantly doesn't want to do. you are seeing that continue. >> i don't see liberal commentators, joe, defending president obama. i see them criticizing the residence or changing the subject to bush's invasion of
iraq. >> that will happen. what are you going to say about a situation where there is no good solution? the one thing, the coverage has been off on the allowing of the russians feeling the vacuum that america left. the reality is, syria is their last place in the region. they have been there forever. or been defending assad forever. it should not -- it should -- it is not in the context. in iraq you can make that we left there was a advantage you'll and isis filled it but the russia thing does not make any sense. i don't see any real coverage that makes it clear the context which this is happening. >> you mentioned donald trump earlier and when truck trouble told bill o'reilly three would be happy to let vladimir putin use syria because he could use it as a quagmire and the pundits gasped but could it play differently with the voter?
>> the libertarian wing of the republican party and rand paul voters. you are not supposed to say that. you are supposed to say, maybe we should not be the police officer are the world and fill in "a strong man from russia will come in and dominate and change the dynamics of the region." >> you but trump comes out and says it. >> the americans are tired of war and our intervention. >> i don't think they are tired of the united states being influential in the region. >> is this the 3:00 a.m. call, re-doing the campaign focus that new there is a commander in chief with the foreign policy receded? >> no doubt about that. the question is, does that last? again, almost always our presidential politics is driven by the economy. yes, it has been put to the
front burner. this could be where trump gets into trouble. i am not sure what he is saying will help. it depends --. ought past few months things have turned out to be true. donald trump is on the cover of "new york times" magazine today. a big profile. at the top, i dismissed him as a clown and i was too incredibly serious and high-minded so i decided not to write about him and i feel proud about the decision. does that capture early media mindset? >> it reflects the media things they are setting a tone or people think the media is setting the tone and often the voters are telling us what the story is. that is what has happened with donald trump. people thought it was silly and everyone would write him off and they are saying no, he is
trending for a lot of reasons and getting a lot of support and you are forced to write about it. >> at the love us were just wrong. >> you can weigh in on the topic and the media coverage. is robert redford trying to salvage the reputation of dan rather with his new movie? president obama rushes to make the horrifying mass shooting political, in his words and the media is following the lead.
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push for gun control measure. the pundits chose sides. >> this has become routine. the reporting is routine. my response here at this podium ends up being routine. the conversation and the aftermath of it. we are numb to it. what is also routine is that somebody somewhere will comment and say obama politicized this issue. this is something we should politicize. >> i have said with all of shootings, i was really disgusted with the president's comments. his race to politicize it. >> the president feared routine in this, he fears exactly what i fear, how do we come on and treat this as something that is
not routine although it has become routine. >> has the coverage become routine? have journalists become unresponse toy this? >> it is routine because the republicans come out and they say government is not the antiand the democrats say we need more gun control measures and voters do not make it a litmus test for politicians. >> what about the horror of all of the innocent people being killed? >> yes it has come routine in a lost ways. until something changes in the national debate we will not have a change in the coverage. >> i don't accuse president obama of politicizing it, he is entitled to push for gun control measures and the media is happy to jump on it but doing it on the day it happens when bodies are stillening carried away and people are taken to the hospital
and the shooter has not been identified, you do it then ... it is causing a problem. >> it is gross. here is the larger problem. nothing the president is proposing would have prevented this. the coverage and the discussion of all of this suggests that somehow this is is a bill or legislation that exists that the republicans have said we will not pass this legislation that would address this or would address sandy hook. the mistake the president makes and the press continues to make is to propose things that are related to guns and the regulation of them but not to the problem at hand and they are surprised when people say, no, why would we do that? >> there is no magic bullet. the reason for media fatigue is the president proposing action on background checks on limits on magazine ammunition yet everyone knows nothing will happen because congress is
absolutely deadlocked. the n.r.a. is power will. >> that is why you do it when everyoneo is paying attention, there is a problem and there are things we can do. >> you have no problem with the president talking about gun controls hours later? >> what about the 40 people shot in chicago or the people shot in baltimore? the problem is you do not see 24 hour coverage on cnn and fox and msnbc on any of those troubles. when you suddenly, look, the same day, probably 30 million or 40 million or 50 million of tuning in to watch so when you try to make your case. >> the sheriff in oregon, john hanlin urged the media not to report the shooter's name or use his picture because it would
glorify the action. i am torn on this and i worry we are giving some of the psycho paths what they want. >> once is enough, show the name, the picture, and shut up. >> i am torn, too, i don't know the precise answer. people have legitimate right to know the shooter. >> we have to report who the shooter is but for me the third and fourth day stories of a troubled story, i don't care, these are sick people with troubled lives and i don't care. >> i agree but people find that information. >> we need to show it less. >> there are outlets for people who are --. >> television doesn't have to make this a constant refrain because it is out there and anyone with a computer can get it. >> good note to end on, joe trippi, carol three, and chris
stirewalt. >> rand paul and his beef with ted cruz, donald trump and the coverage of the campaign. robert redford has a movie about dan rather and the discredited story on george w. bush and the national guard. earch. 10,000 suggestions. who reads all those? he does. for all the confidence you need. td ameritrade. you got this. there's just no time, especially for eating right. and that's where you can really gain weight. so i chose atkins as a nutritious and easy way
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>> dan rather's understandably excited about the new movie "truth," where robert redford portrays him. will it tell the truth about the scandal that cost him the anchor job at cbs? it is clear this movie has heroes. >> tonight, we have new information on the president's military service. >> here is to a great story. >> i covered every aspect of the story back in 2004 when rather
on the "630 minutes," accused president bush of going awol and dan rather said the movie vindicates his view but it is based on a book would cbs fired after retracting the story. >> they did not get this for asking a question. >> someone has to confirm the memos. >> this is not a trial but a hunt. >> we are talking about bringing licks into reporting. >> our story was whether the president fulfilled the service. >> here are the facts: the story was based on memos said to have been written in the 1970s by his late squadron commanders but when outsiders say the typewritten documents looked to be done on a computer, two of the cbs experts told me they warned of red flags they may not be authentic and a texas air
commander misled cbs about how he got the documents. >> you lied? why would i believe you would not do something else? >> another key source, the supervisor for bush's ex commander said he was "misled," by cbs and believes they are forgeries which toledo this moment on the cbs evening news. >> the failure of cbs to do just that, to properly fully scrutinize the documents and their source led to our airing the documents when we should not have done so. it was a mistake. cbs news deeply regrets it and i want to say personally and directly i'm sorry. >> outside investigation commissioned by cbs found it deeply flawed and rushed to hair because of a zeal and said the key source had an antibush political agenda and the affair was called a black eye for cbs. rather was forced out of the
anchor chair and let go and he later filed a $70 million breach of contract suit against cbs claiming that parent company caved to pressure from the bush administration. he lost. it was a sad ending to his long and colorful career and he has every right to argue that this was political and corporate interference with truth telling investigative journalism. i hope robert redford's movie does not whitewash a t book study in journalistic malpractice. medical expenses. the rest is up to you.
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high has not lost any feistiness. we spoke in washington. >> rand paul, welcome. >> in the battle in the senate over government shut down or avoiding one and de-funding planned parenthood you went after ted cruz saying he is done in the senate. what do you mean? >> i wrote not say going after i was asked about different styles. we have different styles. when i disagree i do not call them name or am inflammatory. i am willing to stand up for what i believe but harry reid on the opposite side from me i have good relations with him although he is a democrat and i would not call him dishonest or a liar because it does not further the debate the. >> it was dramaized by the resigning of speaker boehner, some believe in the house of representatives if you are not
willing to close down the government over planned parenthood or getting rid of obamacare you are not fighting for principles. your thoughts? >> i believe we should exercise the power of the purse and i say we have not been doing enough and we control the house of representatives and the senate and i have been traveling the country and conservatives and republicans are very unhappy we are not controlling the power of the purse. many in washington, dc, will say, we do not have the votes, 60 votes to de-fund things. it is backwards. if you let the spending expire, to restart spending takes 60 votes. >> you have been mixing up with donald trump who treated prediction rand paul is driven out by my statements about him and he will announce 1 percent. the psychiatry from kentucky has the floor. >> rumors of my demise are exaggerated. we are doing quite well running a tight ship around here and we plan on being in for the long
haul. celebrity will sort of filter out of this. >> you called donald trump a clown. >> there are clown-like things he has said and what is more important, i do believe he is a true conservative. being for higher taxes or single-payer health system are not conservative notions. he was for the bank bailouts and for president obama's government stimulus package. probably the biggest issue that makes me think he is a fake conservative is he is for using imminent domain of government to take property from small property owners and give it to big corporations like his and he has personally profited by having the government do his dirty work of taking people's property and there is nothing jobbive about that. >> your campaign is struggling what do you say? >> look how we do against hillary clinton. you look at the polls we are not
doing as well as some of the polls but against the democrats we do better than many people in the republican party. we lead hillary clinton in five states that were won by president obama. what does that show? it shows we have the ability to attract independents, democrats and people you need to come to your party if you think you can win the battleground states. >> "time" magazine called you the most interesting man in politics but not so great now. >> a i still think i am the most anding man in politics. >> it is hard for you to breakthrough. >> it is funny, the mood of people reporting things changes but to me, i am the same as i have always been, i talk about the same things, limited government, constitution, privacy, the bill of rights and i continue to sue our crowds grow bigger and bigger so if i did not read the so-called pundits and i traveled the country as i am each day i see
bigger crowds and more enthrough a. >> you started with a deep skepticism of united states military intervention overseas. with the net from isis and now russia's airstrikes in syria, are you still skeptical of greater united states involvement in syria? >> our founding fathers wanted it to be difficult to go to war so they gave the power to congress to initiate war. my complaint is the president is taking over that power. it is not his power under the constitution. the first thing we cloud is debate, should we be in syria? in iraq? there should be a vote if congress. >> what is your answer? >> i would 10 i don't want boots in the ground to be united states boots on the ground. we had an iraq war and i think it was a mistake. when we have toppled a secular dictator in the middle east we have gotten chaos, the rice of islam and made it more dangerous. hillary clinton's war in libya
has made it less safe for us. the same goes for assad. we have many people, president obama and hillary clinton and some republicans, who want to topple assad and it would be a mistake. that would allow a power vacuum for isis. >> and there is a 3 percent threshold for the debate putting you in others of not making the rhyme time stage. is that fair for cnbc? >> we looked at the criteria and it looks like it would include us. we see nothing of the criteria they have put forward that would not include us. >> senator paul, thanks for joining us. >> the kentucky senator has slipped before 3 percent in a couple of polls. his
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over the air including cnn interview. >> i am just concerned. will you answer directly, do you think you are homophobic? >> no you look at the polls, it is across the board. >> do you think you -- some could perceive you as racist? >> i did a speech for the african-american chamber of commerce in south carolina and they wrote the most beautiful letter i have received in a long time say how unfairly i was treated by the press. >> homophobic perceived at ratist? >> it proves you can ask truck the most outrageous question in the world and he will deflect it in half a second and steamroller you which is what he did. those questions are legitimate questions but not asked in that
manner. there is a way you build to that kind of question and lemon, really, with that -- you do feel the uncertainty in the question with the choppyness and the mixed motives. really, a bad way to go at that. >> jeb bush raising the tv profile, and he sat down on "today show." >> your resume and pedigree are perfect from a family with a long history of public service. your dad was president. your brother was president. i don't mean to be funny, and after several months in the race you are losing in the polls to the host of celebrity apprentice. how do you get your arms around it? >> doesn't matter to me in october. when we get closer to february people want to know, does he care about me? does he have ideas to lift me up? >> ms.' -- matt's question?
>> he is so clever are he sets him up, constitute not have it but actually, poor jeb bush bites on it halfway through and says, well thank you and it is embarrassing, i don't ever feel any sympathy when a candidate says that a gotcha question but it was needless to show his gullibility and matt could not let it go. got nothing for the audience. >> we disagree i thought it was fine. >> because you are an interviewer. >> ben carson has been grilled on comments of not investigating a muslim candidate. >> do you stand by that now? >> first of all, what i said is on a transcript and there for --. >> i am reading the transcript and that is what you said, dr. carson. >> read the paragraph before
that where i said anyone, it doesn't matter their religious background, if they accept american values and principles are willing to exchange their religious beliefs, i have no problem, why do you leave that out? >> i don't think we do, dr. carson and it was quite clear, i would not advocate we put a muslim in charge of this nation. >> he kept pressing. >> this is fascinating. my reaction, i thought she was hostile. i thought she was harsh and i realized that is the tone a journalist should take. ben carson does that, he stayed is not what he said, and she said, no, it is in 9 the transcript and he said why don't do you that and she said we do, good for her. we have become so used to the late night host interview jimmy fallon we think that is harsh and show has the right
journeyistic tone and we have lost it. >> arrest great guy, david zurawik. >> hillary clinton on the circuit and she was pressed about the e-mail mess. >> i am trying to figure if you said in march that the mail system began in march of 2009 yet we have the same e-mail address popping up in january, explain that. >> there was a transition period. i wasn't that focus on my pharrell account to be clear. >> hot me talk to you, you say you were not focused on it but to put an e-mail server is a complicated thing. >> but it was already there. >> did not give up. >> that is lieutenant columbo, it was a verify ever fixive interview and he caught her changing her interview overtime especially with the e-mails where she said i wasn't involved in the review and then we found out she said she was. that is very good. he was gentle but he got good
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but this has been so nice you are really easy to talk to. >> thanks. that the first time i have ever heard that. >> david zurawik, did they pull it off? >> you showed hillary clinton's best moments. >> they treated her gently last night. very gently. if you saw the other woman in it, in april when hillary clinton announced with the video the night before, she shredded it and blew it up so she had no choice but to try to be inside the joke rather than the butt of it. in that sense it is successful. i am amazed how gently they treated her. they are hard on the republicans and bernie sanders last night. >> that is why i thought it wasn't that funny because they did not make serious fun. that is what you expect on the show but it helps and even hillary clinton said so. >> trevor noah is the new jon
stewart, and this was the first week. look at debut. >> jon stewart was more than a late night host he was our voice and in many wears our political dad. it is weird. because dad is to the left. now it feels like the family has a new step dad. and he is black. which is not ideal. >> you have mixed up with jon stewart. can he fill the chair? >> he will not fill the chair the way jon stewart did. after a week, already, who could be as politically engaged and passionate as jon stewart whether you agreed or not? you felt he actually knew what went on in congress in 1948? he loved this stuff.
he was c pan. he would watch c-span on sunday night? trevor noah how could he possibly have that kind of american political background? trevor noah has grace. he has energy. he is a funny guy. he could make them younger in that audience the first night they were down six years already in terms of demographics. >> to me, trevor noah was charming and delivered the scripted line but watching the interview with chris christie ii don't think as a south african he has a feel more american politics or the confidence to express it so the questions were ...he did not have a sense he had a worldview and main it is unfair after only a week but it was the key to the success. >> opening night on speaker boehner you felt he was reading a script he was not engaged but maybe people think you want the ideology of jon stewart, this guy doesn't have ideology, so
give him a break. >> but it is a comedy show if he is funny...they have great writers. it is important to have a world view? that is what made the show special? jon stewart's humor was fueled by his anger in politics? >> i agree. trevor noah probably will not do a piece to blast us. >> look, it has only been a week. david zurawik, thanks for stopping by. still to come, your top tweets and the media are suddenly leery over another donald trump, his wife, what is up? plaque psoriasis...
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i'm >> two top army generals talked how to suppress a "new york times" piece, a serious topic, concussion from mandatory boxing classes at west point, by planning to get u.s.a. today to write of a more favorable study on army concussions and the brass according to a meeting summary are army general surgeon and the west point supervisor speaking deliberately delaying a response to the information request while pushing the sympathetic version, both say the summary misent interested their remarks but it is clear the army officers paid by the taxpayers are trying to muffle a negative story on concussions and that makes my head head. should tv news name the oregon gunman and show the picture? >> do not show notes jump on the peeled and it reduces the problem. >> another, do not understand no naming attitude, do anonymous
killers make it safer? it is better to enact script gun control laws. >> will there ever be a serious conversation about the gun craziness? >> another, no, it only hurts the families and his, to, for that matter. god mess all those affected by the tragedy. amen. >> donald trump's wife melania has given the first interview to "people" magazine and the cover photo is a gift in reminding voters he is the father of five but the we media are mad for melania who appeared three years ago on fox. >> everyone has their own views and inhas their own opinions and my husband has many millions and will months of followers. >> and opinions. >> and opinions. >> a lot people agree with my husband, some don't and that is where we stand. it will always be that way. agree to disagree. >> "new york times" has a huge
profile that said not for his candidacy, she would be just another trophy spouse. seriously? they deleted a tweet with a closeup photo of her in a skimpy by kin any bottom and a grant page "washington post" profile describing her posing naked 15 years ago for british gq, pouty lips on a fluffy fur wearing a sparkling necklace and not a stitch of clothing. writing about a former model senior more interesting than covering the candidate's spouses but she is a nonpolitical person, a devoted mother, a savvy entrepreneur, can we please cool it with the heavy breaking? we that is it for "media buzz," we hope you go to our facebook page and give us a "like," and post original content.
we are back here next sunday at 11 o'clock and 5:00 p.m. >> i am chris wallace, a big potential shakeup in the race for speaker of house, with congressman jason chaffetz considering a run to lead the republican majority. today, he will announce the decision on fox news sunday. >> everyone thought hillary clinton was unbeatable. but we put together benghazi special committee. her numbers are dropping. i did not intend to aimply the work is political. >> kevin mccartney was the frontrunner but now he is facing criticism from republicans for his gaffe. we will discuss the future of the g.o.p. and an exclusive interchange with jason chaffetz.