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>> one of us has superhuman powers. >> let's wave good-bye. have a great weekend, everybody. thanks for joining us. >> greatest thing i've ever seen. martha: it's a big day in benghazi. hillary' top aide will go behind closed doors to talk about that night. it took the lives of four americans including ambassador christopher stevens. this testimony from abedin comes a week before hillary clinton's.
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gregg: as president obama announces an about-face on defense policy former defense secretary robert gates is slamming the white house saying the interference he experienced from the white house was unprecedented. >> it was the operational micromanager of white house staffers calling senior commanders on the field of asking them questions of second guessing. that's the kind of thing that made me cratey. gregg: we'll be talking with general jack keane in just a few minutes. martha gregg: trumping carson, getting
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in a war with cnbc, threatening to boycott the network. >> they want to thick this an extra hour. i think it's unfair to the viewers, and they are doing it because they want to make more money. we agreed to two hours and yesterday they came up with this additional long period of time. the networks are making a fortune off this stuff. they never made money, they always lost money with it, now they are making a fortune, i wonder why. martha: cnbc tweeted that they have agreed to the two-hour debate he and carson wanted.
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chris, is this a win for them? how do you read it? >> the way they won is they don't have anything to lose. it wouldn't bother donald trump or ben carson not to participate. they are tide for first place. they are the frontrunners by a clear margin over the first of the pack. and debates have not been their strongest suit. why debate? it's not like trump can't get publicity. you tell cnbc my way or the highway and they say fine, we were just checking. martha: you could look at it in a number of ways. this presidential elect for the president of the united states. some of them will get 6 or 7
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minutes. carly fiorina talked about the endurance of the gentlemen in the race. >> seems that jeb bush isn't the only low energy guy. it looks like donald trump and ben carson don't have the endurance to debate for three hours. >> that's trump level trolling. but if you are a candidate like carly fiorina you need the debates. if you are marco rubio you need the debates because you don't have the poll position and the huge amounts of money carson is spending to push through without them. those candidate need the debates and the evening to keep going. a debate regime that keeps them far apart keeps truck
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temperature from having to face his critics at his ankles all the time. martha: there were opening statements and closing statements which i think some people snoozed through. >> the opening statement are a total waste of time. if you want to hear gaffes, you can go and test them. you know it's a collaborative process. you go back and forth with these campaigns. what's interesting and unusual in trump and carson's case, they thought they could go public and try to force cnbc's hands in public. martha: it looks like they did. there are new numbers on the
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money race in the republican presidential primary. ben carson took in $20 million thanks to his surge in the polls. you have the chicken and the egg syndrome. the enthusiasm is turning into money. jeb bush is in third place. senator ted cruz not far behind, he's a good money story just over $12 million. donald trump raised $4 million but he doesn't need it. he doesn't spend money on advertising. his biggest expense, hats and t-shirts. gregg: we did that in high school when we ran fortress earlier. -- ran for treasurer.
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senator marco rubio will jane us later on this hour. president obama's flip-flop on afghanistan and his administration putting israel on the same moral authority as the palestinians. martha: a memo reassuring everybody that the campaign is definitely not over and they feel they are doing quite well. he will tell us why he believes that. we are looking forward to that. gregg: you are looking live in bethlehem where palestinians have called for a day of rage. they seem to be off to a good start.
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clashes in the streets. just the latest displays of violence after a deadly series of stabbings and shooting attacks. the obama administration suggesting israel is using excessive force and accusing the israelis of terrorism. >> i think you are going to ask me if we consider it an act of terrorism and we do. certainly individual on both side of this divide have proven capable of and in our view guilty of actually terror. gregg: prime minister benjamin netanyahu defending his actions. >> what would happen if people were running down the street in new york or los angeles or anywhere in the use the with meat cleavers or knives trying
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to randomly murder people. what would you expect your american police to do? that's what the israeli police are doing. they are acting efficiently to protect our citizen population from brutal killers. that's their job. gregg: we'll keep an eye on that situation and get a live report from the scene. martha: crazy mud lids this week in california triggered by torrential rain. can you imagine? drivers trapped in their cars by rivers of mud. gregg: an alleged isis hacker busted overseas accused of helping the group hunt down service members.
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martha: robert gates sat down with bret baier and slammed the administration for in his mind their interference with the white house. >> there were people constantly goading him saying the military is trying to bowks in and trap you and bully you.
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gregg: a fox news alert. a suspected isis hacker arrested in malaysia. he's suspected of track down information on american troops and giving it to isis. he's from kosovo. authorities say he led an internet hacking group that was in direct communication with the senior islamic leader in syria. martha: obama's former defense secretary. the commander-in-chief faces increased criticism including the change strategy we saw yesterday in afghanistan. >> in the 2 1/2 years i worked for him there were only one or two speeches in which the
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president talked about the importance of success in afghanistan and why it was important. my view is when a president sends troops in harm's way he has to convince them that he believes risking their lives is worthwhile. he has to be able to convince them that their cause is noble and just. and warrants their sacrifice. martha: he said the president never did that, in his mind. general jack keane joins me now. this is as stunning interview. i heard so many people buzzing about this. he made such a strong impression on him. he works for the bush administration, and also for the obama administration.
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>> i reviewed this book for the "wall street journal." he dedicated the book to the troops. i'm completely convinced given the harsh criticism he got for being critical of a serving president, i think his motivation then and his motivation now is to still see if he can help these troops that are in harm's way. this statement he is making is a fact. the president of the united states has to engage the troops and provide them purpose and meaning for what they are doing. and he has to engage the american people. provide that purpose to them. after all, the byproduct of that, they all have family and friends out there. this is something the nation is going to do. they will feel better about what they are doing. the challenge for our troops, they are in combat.
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do they have to protect other people's way of life. we are asking them to take lives and take those lives on a scale most people cannot comprehend. that has a huge human impact. so it has to be a cause that's honorable and noble to ask a human going to commit to something like that. martha: he says he remembers the president speak out on the mission in afghanistan. but my mind went back to what he said about syria in the 60 minutes interview when he said i was always sceptical about whether we could train troopsn in syria to take on this mission. if the commander in chief is sceptical, you can't convince people, you can't convince the troops.
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>> this vacillation has been there from the outset. this president from those months to present, we have made, the united states military made six recommendations to him on fours levels. one in iraq and five in afghanistan to improve this recent one. and he disagreed with every single one of them. martha: why would you keep the people in charge if you don't agree they are carrying out the mission the way you want it done. i want to play another sound bite that may go to an explanation of what you are talking about. >> it was the operational micromanagement that drove me nuts of white house and nfc staffers calling senior commanders out in the field and asking them questions of second
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guessing coming under. so that's the kind of thing that made me crazy. i had tried to call a field commander going around dick cheney who was secretary of defense or colin powell,' head of the joint chiefs. i would have had my head handed to me personally by the president. that kind of interference was unheard of when i was on the nfc at the white house. martha: mcchrystal said he never heard from the president. >> president bush had to deal with to commanders who did not know how to fight an urban insurgency and put in generals that did, petraeus.
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by the time obama became president we had years of experience. the generals in charge were the very best this country has produced. in my judgment they compared to anything we produced in world war ui. these are extraordinarily competent people. the pact they were being continuously second guessed. given their skill sets, it's quite extraordinary. it's unprecedented as secretary gates is saying that florida manipulation. necessity were going around him to get facts to undermine him in their recommendations to their superiors. >> i think there were people in the white house and i don't want to name any names, who were constantly goagd him saying the military is trying to box you in, the military is trying to make you do something you don't
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want to do. >> was vice president biden one of those people? >> i think so. i was told so. >> that attitude by staffers around the president and also the vice president is arrogant and so insulting to the leaders out there. these people making these recommendations have never made life and death decisions. these generals and their subordinates are doing that every day. to suggest that their game and manipulating the president is outrageous. martha: is it fair to say there is a tattered relationship between the military and our president? >> it's never been right. >> he has a chummy relationship with the joint chiefs of staff at the pentagon but below that there is a divide.
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gregg: a terrifying crash caught on camera. look at that. a truck clipping a car going airborne. ordeal not over yet. we'll show you what happened on the other side.
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gregg: you are looking live in bethlehem where palestinians have called for a day of range after a deadly series of stack and shooting attacks. reporter: there have been heavy
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clashed in the west bank city of bethlehem. you can see israeli border police troops here. 20 minute ago. self hundred were getting closer and closer. the trash dumpsters were burning tires to create a smoke screen. they were throwing rocks. they have been sling shooting rocks like this. and then as they were getting closer, trying to push up closer here, the troops came barreling out, this armored vehicle had tear gas cannisters on the top, 30 of them that created a smoke screen for the troops. the troops came flying out and opened fire with rubber bullet. they are basically creating a perimeter here.
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the rioters were really close and they were pushed back. this culminated in the west bank city of hebron where a palestinian man posing as a photographer with a press jacket on went up and began stabbing a border police officer there. the deadly attack and it looks like these gentlemen pushing us back. several hundred protesters, okay, take it easy. back. you can see it's getting hostile. a lot of media here, by the way. and we have been under fire as well. we have been hit by some marbles. it's very tense to say the least.
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okay, no problem. thank you. it's getting 10 so we should probably follow the orders of the border police and continue to move back. the intensity has continued to climb after a deadly, hostile week. we have seen border checkpoint, police checkpoint in and around east jerusalem neighborhood. and the rioting continues here in the west bank city of bethlehem. gregg: stay safe, keep your head down, and we'll check back with you as thing develop. martha: an american hero is back on his feet after a harrowing ordeal. airman spencer stone now being treated in an emergency room. we'll give you the latest on his
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martha: president obama's foreign policy coming under fire, this time for an about-face on afghanistan saying u.s. troops will be staying there beyond the end of next year. watch this. >> make no mistake. we don't in afghanistan. i determined it's in our vital national interest to send an additional 30,000 troops to afghanistan starting next month.
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we'll be able to remove 10,000 of our troops from afghanistan by the interest of this year and bring hope a total of 33,000 troops by next summer. this draw down will continue and by the even of next year our war in afghanistan will be over. at the beginning of 2015 we'll have 9,800 u.s. service members in different parts of the country. one year later by the end of 2016, our military will draw down to a normal embassy presence in kabul with a security component. martha: we now know that that's not to be. based on the president's own comment he said because of conditions on the ground there it's necessary to keep at least 5,500 troops in place until the end of his term and whoever is the next president will have to take on what going on in afghanistan.
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here is the man who would like to be that person. senator marco rubio is that person. this is a serious situation going on on the ground in afghanistan. isis is building a presence there. you have al qaeda making a resurgence. our people are going to be in a very, very dangerous, violent situation. here is what people need to understand. they are reaching the point where the numbers get so low the only thing they are able to do is spend all day defending themselves. it's not a magical number. the number determines whether we have enough people there to defend ourselves first, but also to conduct operations. all these features you just outlined? the taliban saw the same messages as did al qaeda. they waited and were biding their time.
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with each reduction in american troops you saw more addressive action on their part. they are stepping into the vacuum and void we left behind. the afghan national forces do not have enough to fight off o e insurgents. if afghanistan collapses it could become the next vacuum. the collapse of the afghan government without significant support of the united states will lead to a significant vacuum in that region of the world. martha: a lot of people listening to that say it's not our problem. we have been in afghanistan for the longest war in american history and we are done with it. whoever accepts this job is going to have a lot -- how are
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you going to convince the american people that it's worth it? >> because it's our problem. show them the magazines isis is producing and the publications coming out from al qaeda. they talk about attacking america. they talk about recruiting americans to join their cause and raise the black flag of isis over the white house and attack americans here in the homeland, how they are going to target servicemen and women in their homes and community for killing and beheading. they are not satisfied with controlling syria and iraq. they want to conquer the world. they want to destroy israel and ultimately they want to come after us here in the united states and they are actively trying to do it now. this notion if we leave them alone they will leave us alone just isn't true. they are there today but they are trying to come here now because they believe it is their calling to conquer the world in
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the name of their version of radical islam. martha: i want to move to another topic that's very important. we saw what's going not streets of israel. our reporter is getting nudged around there. here is josh earnest, the press secretary at the white house talking about this situation. >> we continue to dress the importance of condemning violence and combating incitement. some difficult decisions there require significant political courage. martha: they are getting a lot of pushback from that. >> that is their attitude with israel all the time. they want to be an honest broker. they are not an honest broker. they are the only pro-american free enterprise democracy in the middle east.
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we need to be criticizing seabass and th --criticizing abe palestinians. it is the palestinian side that is inciting the violence. it many the palestinian side encouraging and celebrating people who are attacking israelis and jews in the region and it's unacceptable. i wish we had a white house clearly on the side of israel. it's in many ways contribute together instability in the region. martha: how do you feel about the fact that donald trump and ben carson are dictating the terms of your next debate october 28? >> in public polling they are doing very well. that gave them some stand something talk to news outlets
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how to do things. i don't worry about it. do i want it to be three hours long? not necessarily, but i'm prepared for it. it's not whether i want to stand for three hours behind a podium. this election is about the future of america. i look forward to having an opportunity to debate with my fellow republicans. martha: there may be 8 or 9 of you on the prime time stage. do you have think it's time for some people on the lower end of that 8 or 9 to get out? >> i think people make their own decisions. as long as someone has the poll numbers, as long as they are not running up debt for their campaign, i don't know why they would get out. the democrats can't even come up
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with one good candidate. that debate the other night was embarrassing. we have strong people running. it will give us the stronger nominee and a better chance to win the white house. i'm focused on what we are returning on. i'll keep telling the american people what i will do if they -f they honor me with the chance nobody the white house. martha: rand paul coming up in just a feuf minutes. senator marco rubio, thank you. gregg: the national league championship series all set now after this by the new york mets. >> the mets are going to the national league championship series. gregg: the mets beating the
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dodgers in an elimination game on the road in l.a. one of the best pitchers in the game. that second baseman daniel murphy clinching the win. the cover of today's new york post. you met-cha. the mets going on to face the cubbies. martha: sorry about your dodgers but i'm happy for the mets. it was a jubilant night at my house it was my husband's birthday. happy birthday, honey. what a great series.
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gregg: you have got to pull for the cubbies now. martha: no i don't. gregg: it's been so long. was there anybody alive today who was around the last time they won the world series? no. martha: did a strong debate performance put the icing on the cake for hillary clinton? that's the buzz. but is it true? and is a republican nomination for president as good as hers? >> she has no competition. these guys barely could have made the cut on the republican side.
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gregg: hillary clinton leading the polls and by many accounts the clear winner. is the race for the nomination over before iowa?
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charles crowd hammer thinks so. >> with one cal caveat. unless she is indicted she'll win the nomination. she has no competition. these guys barely could have made the under card on the republican side. gregg: we are told vice president joe biden will decide by early next week if he will jump in the race. but it may be too late. karl rove, charles krauthammer called the competition, an unmoored old man. but your line i thought was even better. your characterization of bernie
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sanders was even better. >> it was a very weak field. poor, hapless lincoln chafee saying my father just died and i had been appointed to a senate seat. the "madman" series. we had jim webb who was angry all evening at being inconsequential and being left out. it reminded us this field is weak. and it reminded us hillary clinton is pretty good at debate. this was a reminder in most of the debates she manhandled obama. it didn't help her win the nomination in 2008. but unless she is indicted or
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something other dramatic happens. she is likely to be the nominee. that's not to say she'll get there undamaged. she is probably likely to lose iowa. gregg: in your mind, how do you see joe biden calculating this? he can't wait until mid-january to determine whether an indictment -- >> first of all, this is a deeply personal decision by him. my sense is there is no calculation that has to do with what's going to happen to her. i think it's going to be, does he want to have regrets? i think he's likely to get into this thing knowing it's uphill. but really just he has nothing to lose. if he gets in, he wins, he wins.
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if he loses, he loses. either way he said no regrets, i made a decision. i had fun if i lost. i don't think's that calculating about it. gregg: let me understand how impressive hillary clinton has been. she fumbles stumbles and mumbles in front of a group of reporters and one-on-one interviews she does a sunday one every now and a few decade, it doesn't come across well. how do you juxtaposed the two. >> put her in front of ordinary people. she cannot relate to people, she cannot connect, and she comes across as stiff and mechanical. but that's not going to solve her problem. her problem is people don't consider her honest and trustworthy and she has the
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worst numbers on the question of cares about people like me. today i think the number is 43% think she cares about people like me and 50% say she does not. they are generally high positive saying cares about ordinary people and a low number that does not. but she is upside down. in the debates she made her problems worse. she showed she was inauthentic by flip-flopping on two items. keystone and the trade deal with. i don't think she did herself any favors. >> will have been inconsistencies. i'm getting a hard wrap here. you know what that means. won't be telling martha not to give her husband dan a nice gift. you didn't do us husbands any
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don't be doing that. gregg: get him a new pair of socks. martha: i will if the mets win.
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gregg: videotape out of california showing a driver losing control and flipping into the air. that's going to leave a mark. capturing from. >> the car's dash cam. the drive the pickup truck hit a mustang. the drive in the who recovering from multiple serious injuries.
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rescuers prying the victim from the wreckage. the jaws of life, they come in handy. it's incredible when you see it in a dash cam and think somebody can survive that. martha: these folk are having a tough time. flash flooding catching drivers off guard in southern california. look at this video. >> we are stuck. mud flowing by the doors of the cars as prove why you drought conditions left the land stripped. jonathan hunt is live on i5 in lack county. what's the was there now? reporter: it's a mess, and a very muddy mess. i'm literally in the middle of
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i5, the main free way running the length of california. on a friday morning thousands of cars would normally be driving along here. but look at the mud. this is a foot deep. it was up to 5 feet deep in some places. caltrans working hard to get it cleebed up. these cliffside along i5. you can see the mud came rushing down. it's going to take a long time. as you take a look at some pictures from last night. hundreds of cars and trucks were strapped at one point on i5 and other road nearby. this is a mess that will take
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and remember the presidential debates, when they have them in the fall between romney and obama, an hour and half. the idea of going three hours becomes an endurance test than debate. if they want to go into greater depth, perhaps they should have fewer candidates on the stage. the idea you cannot get in-depth answers in two hours? i don't know of a debate except lincoln-douglas that went on for eight hours. >> trump is showing up this weekend. is he going to be the full hour?
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>> reporter: no, we are doing half an hour with mr. trump. i don't put it on trump. i put it on my colleagues in the business. i had never heard of a sunday talk show, we pride ourselves on in depth interviews and you see the host ask and the person answer. they agreed to do a face to face interview and he will ask him about all of the key things; taxes, trade, afghanistan. all of the key issues. i was as much of a doubter as anybody else as donald trump but for a summer fling this is turning into an engagement. we are in mid-october. he is the frontrunner, potential nominee and potential president
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and that is how we will treat him sunday. >> he is getting more specific putting out a tax plan in decent details. is it your sense, and he seems to have toned down some of the insults, is it your sense he is pivoting to a more serious candidate in terms of his rhetoric? >> reporter: there is no question. the tax plan, you can agree or disagree with it, but it is detailed. he understands rhetoric and the performance of donald trump only last so long and at a certain point you have to put meat on the bones so you can get considered more seriously and he is doing that. >> i predict he will interrupt you and say let me finish, chris. he loves to do that. and we will wait and see how you
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handle it. it is going to be you. it is going to be you. >> the gigantic interview with chris and donald trump. fox news sunday. he is sitting down with presidential candidate donald trump. >> martha: you cannot miss it. it is going to be great. >> i have to tape and watch it over and over again. >> martha: looking forward to that. don't miss it. and how about this? as we wait for uma to arrive on capitol hill, here is a video of that happening, this is a big moment. she will testify before the benghazi committee. this committee was charged with figure out what happened before the attack in benghazi, during the attack, and then the very important part on what happened
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afterwards when it was blamed on a video and what did she know and the communication she had with hillary clinton and others in her department and others that might shed light on her work that evening. so it will be interesting to see what comes out of this. tension is running high after weeks of violence in israel. palestinian rioters torching a monument holy to millions amid a bloody waves of attacks. we will talk to israel's former united nation ambassador and a flash flood sending a river of mud on to a busy california freeway and stranding hundreds of drivers and submerging cars. a lot of people had to be rescued. we will have the latest on that. and russian president vladimer putin calling america weak on syria. is he trying to provoke the united states? >> i think it is not all that
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here are the facts, and why he, srp preferred to him, is here to stay. senator paul's campaign lays out why they believe he is still very much in the race. kentucky senator rand paul joins us today. >> good morning. >> martha: going through a bunch of numbers this morning and your campaign has been looking at the numbers as well. the broad spectrum is the politics average poll which i know you take issues with. there a seven or eight polls having you at 2.7%. what can you point to in the numbers that gives you encouragement right now? >> presidential herman cane. hillary clinton was leading at this point against barack obama. we should not jump to conclusion
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and excude people who are not in the lead now. i believe the leaders in the republican primary will not be those leading currently and there is a lot of historical proof to that. there is more to campaigning and judging someone's campaign than a poll of 200 people. we have 300 million in the people in the country. er >> martha: when you look at history and the polls, sometimes they are right and wrong, but that is why we look at a broad spectrum of them. in new hampshire, ninth place at 2%. i looked at head-to-heads in pennsylvania as well and presidential elections. you may be right. the numbers may all be wrong but tell us what evidence you have that you are doing a lot better than anybody thinks you are. what do you have? >> we look at a broad spectrum of things that involve a campaign. >> martha: like what?
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>> a poll of 200 people is one thing. 200 people in the united states asked who they are leaning for is what we have. we have organization. 99 county chairman. and organized 350 colleges nationwide and 20 colleges in iowa alone and a thousand students who are caucusing for us. we have raised nearly $20 million with 150,000 donors. there is a lot of other measureme measurements than a poll. this campaign cycle we are focused on polling and trying to call the field with polling before getting to the campaign. >> martha: kasich is hanging in and christie is hanging in as well in a similar zone. but i am looking for what evidence your campaign is falling back on and i am hearing you have a lot of organization. you feel like you have a lot of
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people on the ground committed to you. i read in the memo a lot of straw polls that were pointed to as evidence when people turn out to vote they vote for you. this is the c-pack 2016 straw poll done in february which is one of the things your campaign sites as a strength. walker was in second and he dropped out because he said he can see forward and tell he didn't have the money to go forward. you talk about having money but let's pull up the fundraising numbers for the second and 3rd quarters. 6.9 in the second and 2.5 in the 3rd quarter and you have been burning through that quickly. where is the money coming from at this point? >> we are doing better than many campaigns. we raised around $20 million so far. we have $2 million in the bank and spend it more wisely than others.
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another argument for me being president is there is only one voice on the republican side saying i think it is mistake to go back to war in afghanistan and iraq. i think it a voice that needs to be heard. it is a voice we will continue to present. but it is a voice that is poplar with independents who are not measured in your polls and kids. i defy anyone to find a college kid in iowa who did a presidential poll. so i think the youth is underrepresented in the polls and the independents. so we think we are in the mix of things and we will be competitive. we are in it to win it. i believe truly and i would not do this if i didn't believe i could win the nomination. >> those were groups your father was strong with and he did well in the strong polls but it didn't translate. are you concerned you might be in the same boat? >> we will find out when people vote. i think it is premature. we will find out more as things
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go on. i would say we have 150,000 donors, raised nearly $20 million, and we have maybe the best organization right now in iowa. so i think it is just premature or an exagerating to announce the demise. >> we are 120 days away from iowa and new hampshire. so you are betting on a surprise in those states. is that a fair statement? >> we will surprise lots and are in it for the long run. >> martha: monica crowley was talking about the appeal of donald trump and she said he is a happy warrior and likes being out there. looking at the livestream you did talking about the dumb blank live streaming thing you have to do.
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and i think most people would not characterize you as being a happy warrior. >> i would call it sarcasm. i just finished reading mean tweets. it is humor. people don't understand sarcasm. it was a joke. and some people that are too literal didn't get it. >> martha: rand paul, thank you for being here. good talking to you. take a look at this new violence in israel today. another stabbing attack as hamas calls for a day of rage. amid the violence, the obama administration is accusing the jewish state, israel, of terrorism. the former israeli ambassador is going to join us with reaction. >> martha: and a gritty film highlighting the drug wars and my interview with the actors
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israel on terrorism. >> individuals on both sides of this have proven guilty to this kind of talks. >> thank you for taking to time to speak to us, ambassador. how offended are israelis and others that this president, president obama and his administration/spokes people, are accusing israel of committing acts of violence when the video demonstrates that forces are simply trying to protect israelis who are being slaughtered and stabbed. >> well, greg, we are very offended. i think every israeli is offended and i think every american or citizen of this
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world should be offended by this shameful statement. as you said, i just actually stepped off a plane from israel after a 12-hour flight. the first thing i did was turn on my phone and make sure my kids were all right and my grandchildren made it home safely rather than being stabbed. and hearing the statement equating israeli law enforcement with terrorism is horrifying. you know how many people were killed in the united states since the beginning of this year by law enforcement officers? over 930. look at wikipedia. that is what it says. no body accused them of being terrorist. because they are not. they are american hero. the policeman of america, the law enforcement officers of
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america are american heroes perfecting american lives as are the israelis. imagine people running around the streets of chicago or washington, d.c. stabbing people. what would you do? >> engage in law enforcement action which is the tip of terrorism. is it your sense this white house and the president doesn't' understand the situation in israel or he is bias in favor of the palestinians? >> maybe both. i hope he is not bias. but i think that his foreign policy throughout demonstrates he probably doesn't understand that the middle east is not the midwest. the middle east has its own rules. it is a very volatile and cruel and vicious neighborhood.
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if you look at the record of president obama, whether it is leading from behind in libya or drawing red lines in syria, or empathizing with the muslim brotherhood in egypt, you ask yourself if he understands what he is up against and up against people set to destroy and kill civilization. >> i have to ask you one quick question we are almost out of time. secretary john kerry said massive increases in israeli settlements is to blame for the violence. the normal national security advisor says that is not non-sense and settlement growth hasn't actually increased. who is right? >> abe is right and john kerry
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is wrong. hezbollah and other terrorist don't need an excuse to kill israelis. they are killing us because we are jews. not because we are building. we are not building at the moment. >> ambassador dan gillman thank you forg coming here after a log flight. >> it is good to be here. >> martha: top clinton aid is on capitol hill behind closed doors after walking in and testifying before the benghazi select committee. what is she telling them in there? more when we come back. >> and the president of russia is saying america is aimless in the syrian war. does putin have a point? we break it down. sgr >> putin it about reestablishing russia as world power and power to be wrereckoned with.
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>> martha: two parents face charges in upstate new york that they killed one of their children and beat another as part of a church ritual. police say bruce and debra leonard beat their 17 and 19-year-old sons to get them to confess their sins. four other members of the church were in the room and they are charged assault. all six are due in court in new york. this is a church the community has had questions about for a long time. rick is live and what can you tell us about this crazy story? >> reporter: there is going to be a preliminary hearing to determine if there is enough information to move forward with the parents of lucas. they alleged beat their boys as part of this religious ceremony to get the boys to going to be
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forgiven and confess their sins. we know the husband and wife will be in court charged if first-degree man slaughter. joseph erwin, and joseph and linda morgan, and his 36-year-old half sister are also charges with assaulted. members rarely ventured outside of the school house where the beatings took place for alleged ten hours. the new hartford police chief said it is one of the worst cases he has seen in 30 years. >> it was a violent situation that went on over a number of hours. one of the adults involved didn't make the decision to stop this and that is beyond me.
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>> reporter: the chief said more people could be charged and other charges could be upgraded as the investigation continues. >> martha: more to come. a lot of twist and turns in this story. rick, thank you very much. huma abedin arrived on capitol hill to testify before the benghazi committee. juan williams is here and tony sag, executive vice president of james town associations is here. good to see you both. two months ago the state department revealed that abedin was using private accounts to conduct business and the kicker was the state department was unable to access those accounts. and now yesterday a previous
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remail address was used by her. she might have explaining to do. >> we heard from the committee they will try to stick to the chart which is asking about benghazi. >> but the e-mails we are talking about recently discovered may contain benghazi information and timelines about bengha benghazi. >> correct. we don't know what is there. we are just discovering this account existed. the political problem is as you know, the committee is on the defensive, given what kevin mccarthy had to say and the other congressman. if they are seen as going into the e-mails, it could be that you are setting up hillary clinton who testifies next week to attack the committee. it is very much a political moran. >> mccarthy handed her an early
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christmas gift that was regrettable at best and foolish at worst. he is going to have to answer. >> mccarthy's comments contradict public opinion polls. 70% of americans in the polls want to know more about what hillary clinton did to cover up benghazi. hillary is going to answer questions and claims she wants it to be a transparent process. her testimony is going to be public unlike abedin. the irony is she controls this investigation. in other words, if she wants to clear herself and there is nothing to hide, hillary clinton could release the e-mails and they could sift through and go through them. and then it would be part of the public record and vindicate hillary clinton if she did nothing wrong. the problem is you have abedin who discovered to be caught up in state department business and
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political business on the account scheduleing speaking engagements for the secretary of state. >> trey gowdy has done what all good lawyers and do and that is interview all of the smaller players and wait for the big one so they can be armed with incriminating documents. he apparently has documendocumet are going to prove to be trouble for her. how important is her public testimony going to be next week for someone who 61% of americans think is untrustworthy? >> i think it is critical. a couple things. the debate this week, she did well. the next big step is this testimony on camera. i think it is going to get big waves by the way because everybody is going to want to see how hillary clinton handles and how the committee and trey
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gowdy handle. but your point, i take to heart, when you say there is previous testimony you have interesting being people deposed behind closed doors often. we don't know what potentially explosive information the committee has that will not be perceived as political but as pursuing the legit questions. >> let's look at the two clinton personal interviewed. sidney blumenthal, close friend, we know he engaged with hillary clinton on benghazi and the it specialist pleaded the fifth. the one in charge of the e-mail accounts. clearly there is something there. whether or not it is discovered as quickly as we prefer. >> something smells like linberger cheese but it might be swiss cheese. >> i don't know what that is. >> trust me, you don't want to know.
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have a great weekend. >> martha: there has been crazy weather out there and it is catching drivers by surprise. >> it is incredible. this is wild. it is not only dirty water. i have no idea what is in the water. >> martha: dangerous mudslides shutting down a state and trapping drivers in thor their home. and award winner star here in the studios next.
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>> martha: the film sicario has
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people raving saying it is looking at the real drug cartel. it takes place at the border. here is a clip: >> martha: very intense. winner and stars of the film. good to have you both. appreciated your work for a long time. when the oscar for traffic you won and you did 21 grams. what is it about these stories
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about drugs that you think is important to tell? >> well, i think that movies are inspired by real-life. and the drug wars have been going on for some time now. and this film particularly is a very original story in my opinion. and so, and with an original character for me to play because i played characters in movies that take place in the drug war. i thought the character was compelling. we could relate to him. that was interesting. and you make movies with team work, the team was an a-list team in my opinion so i jumped to the chance to play this character. >> one thing that struck me was the proximity. what you see when you don't live near the border. there were times i was like are
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we in mexico or the united states? i thought it was profound sometimes you don't know. how important was that to you to make it clear to people who live here what it is really like just that close? >> i think it was crucial. i think the thing that surprised most of us when why scouted and went down to el paso and our director had never been to the southern part of the united states how close the border was. we said he could hear the car stereos from the mexico side on the american side. there is a denny ten blocks from the border. this isn't the far away world. if you live in a border state, this is something in your neighborhood. and there is a very, kind of
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emorhoris border where you can into the a lot of american neighborhoods and field like you are in mexico. we shot a shot a lot of mexican stuff in america. >> martha: it is not a black and white movie. there is complexity and discussion about the borders and the politics of the border and the drug war and whose fault it is. what do you think about that? >> i am not an authority on that. but i made friends with the dea's and law enforcement people who are on the front lines of the war. i was talking to a friend who is a dea and he said the production in the last 30 years the production of drugs is not the issue nor is the consumption. so i feel like this war is just going in circles in a way.
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perhaps it is time to reevaluate the tactics. the problem, i think one of the problems is the violence that comes with the problem with drugs and how to deal with that? someone else can say something a bit more specific than i can. but, you know. >> martha: thank you so much. i know it is doing great and bes of luck. congratulations to you both. >> thank you. >> martha: good movie. it is getting a ton of critical acclaim. but they do not hold back. you know? there are gruesome scenes about what the drug cartels are capable of doing to people all over the region. it is gruesome, powerful and a message and story that needs to be told. it is out. >> i am going to go see it. >> martha: it is very interesting. they were great to come in and talk with us about it.
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we wish them luck with the movie. let's go to jon scott and see what he has. >> we have the latest on the 2016 race and the push to raise cash. who are the winners and losers in bringing in the bucks? and a murder trial four years in the making will the decision of one person to pour over the evidence fast track the bobo holly case? new evidence suggest people are mentally sharper with their phones nearby. we will get into that. >> martha: thank you very much. >> researchers could be on the cusp of a medical breakthrough thank do is elephants. details straight ahead. details straight ahead. -- thanks to --ve active managet can protect capital long term. active management can tap global insights.
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elephants can change the way we treat childhood cancers. the large land animals rarely get the disease and scientist think their genes are warding that off and a study is underway to see how they can use that in humans. ringling brothers is playing a big part of this. phil keeting is live. >> reporter: the researchers wanted to study the genome of the elephants and these guys stepped up the spotlight. these asian elephants in
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retirement are no longer performing but are providing what could be the cure for cancer. >> 55 million years they have figured out how to not get cancer and i feel like the secret for us, for humans, is coursing through their blood. >> reporter: he started thinking about why cancer kills 25% of humans but fewer than 5% of elephants. he needed elephants and team up with the circus. >> to think our elephants would be part of research that helps save children's lives is amazing. >> reporter: through weekly blood draw from their ears they discovered elephants have 20 times as many p53 genes as we do. those genes attack and kill
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cancer cells without that gene cancer cells thrive and multi ply. the challenge now is finding a drug that can replicate what is happening here in the elephants. >> you developed a new friend! great story. thank you so much. >> reporter: amazing. >> martha: amazing indeed. israeli forces are on high alert on a declared day of violence there. a live report from the west bank coming up next. at freshpet, we're changing the way the world thinks about pet food, one wagging tail at a time. with fresh meat and fresh veggies. it's food so fresh, the only preservative
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