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last time you testified has it gotten better or pretty much the same? >> well, greta, i always hesitate characterizations of worse, better. >> how is it different? >> the global terrorist threat is more decentralized, more complicated and in many respects harder to detect because it involves use of the internet it involves terrorists-inspired attacks versus terrorist direct attacks. it's no longer as simple as something that is directed from overseas where you have an operative who comes here who is exported here, who is recruited overseas, trained overseas. now we have to be concerned about the the homegrown tears by something -- terrorist who is inspired by something he sees on the internet. we spent the last two and a half hours talking about this current environment which involves the type of potential for that type of activity in places where can you cannot always predict in chattanooga, tennessee, garland city, texas.
along with places we are traditionally concerned about like new york. and so in that respect it's a new world. we have got to deliver a whole government effort to dealing with that kind of challenge. >> do you have what you need? i mean i realize it's a very fluid situation and you don't get much notice on terrorism. but do you have the resources or is there something you really need from the american taxpayers from congress? >> yes. >> what do you need. >> the answer is yes. >> what do you need. >> repeal sequestration, repeal sequestration and repeal sequestration. can i cannot do for the american public what they need for homeland security with a sequestered budget. right now we are headed to reverting back to sequestration. and so board of security, aviation security. maritime security, counter terrorism, cyber security are not free and i cannot deliver all those things on a sequestered budget. that's what i keep' stressing. homeland security is part of national security. homeland security is part of protecting the american public and so it is
fundamental that the congress gives me what i need to protect the american people, that means repeal sequestration. >> what's the biggest change in your job since you started? >> i'm a lot older. [ laughter ] >> i mean, have the threats changed at all or the sophistication of the threats? or all of it? >> the evolution is becoming more and more clear every day. we have evolved from simply worrying about an underwear bomber type of attack where you have a guy who comes from overseas who is trained overseas at a camp who has been directed overseas, and then tries to blow something up here over the homeland to the type of situation where there is a guy who is here, has lived here. he might have even been born here. he was inspired by something he sees on social media which is really effective. he decides to take up arms and commit an act of
violence here. you look at the recent trends. you look at ottawa, you look at what could have happened in garland city, you look at chattanooga. you look at the charlie hebdo attack in paris, and you see this new trend in the type of threat that we face, which is requiring a different type of vigilance. >> and i assume that you endorse the -- if you see something, say something. >> if you see something, say something message delivered by the department of homeland security. >> with the problem though some people don't want to be doing anything like profiling. they want to be politically correct. there is that sort of delicate balance. some people don't want to say something. >> correct. homeland security is a balance. you are exactly right. it's a balance between vigilance and not compromising our values. we don't want to make people suspicious of each other. because of who they are and what they look like. how they dress. but it means vigilance it means if you see a suspicious package, you should say something about it you should call somebody. if you see somebody engaging
in suspicious behavior, you should do something about it. say something about it. and so that's what we mean by that campaign. it's vigilance and awareness. >> the last time you and i spoke was at the law enforcement memorial here in washington, d.c. where over 20,000 names etched in the wall of fallen officers. last night a police officer shot and killed in new york. your thoughts? >> regrettably since the last time you and i have met, there have been more law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty. and since we last met, i have decided to take on the practice of writing personally to the police chief of each department where somebody is killed. and that means i'm writing a lot of letters. it means i'm very cognizant of much more than i used to be. how many of our law enforcement personnel are killed in the line of duty on a regular basis? and it's really unfortunate and i hope we turn that tide. >> is there -- a lot of
police officers think there is a war on police. do you think there is sort of a general antipolice among some? >> well, i sure hope not. and the policemen is someone who serves the community. that's the nature of what they do. to serve and protect. so many places i have been the community is appreciative of the good work the police do on a daily basis. i happen to believe that is the prevailing sentiment in our country. and i believe that's going to continue. >> mr. secretary, thank you very much, sir. thanks a lot. >> thanks, greta. >> former secretary of state hillary clinton heads to capitol hill that's tomorrow. she is going to be questioned under oath at a benghazi committee hearing. one of the committee members is right here phil! oh no... (under his breath) hey man! hey peter. (unenthusiastic) oh... ha ha ha! joanne? is that you? it's me... you don't look a day over 70. am i right?
secretary clinton gears up for what might be a controversial appearance what questions can we expect to be asked. members of the house benghazi select committee peter rostrum is here to go "on the record." >> thanks, greta. >> you have a question to question the former secretary of state, what do you want to know? >> i want to know what was actually going on. we have had a lot of run it indicated. >> that night or before? >> the whole thing. what was the thinking before qaddafi was killed? what was the thinking when he was killed until, you know, the events of
september 11th, 2012? what was going on all during that time as the deteriorating security situation was apparent to americans on the ground in libya? why wasn't it apparent at the state department? why didn't it break through to those officials who are responsible for their safety. and there is a lot of emails, obviously, to discuss. >> emails being -- not the emails on her server but emails being back and forth benghazi to the state department? >> yeah, that's right. there is a lot of discussion and conversation between her senior staff and herself. she has got a lot of input. political input coming from sidney blumenthal this character who has been in and around hundreds of emails inbound to her as it relates to libya. there is a lot of questions that have to be asked. because you cannot have an incident of this consequence and not ask the senior diplomat what was happening. >> you know what i still don't get, what i want to know is that she was at the state department that night. where was everybody else and what was everybody else doing? i for the life of me i still don't know what president obama was doing that night. whether he was part of the debate or discussion or not.
i know that i think the secretary of defense was. but, you know, were they all on the phone together? that's what i don't understand. the missing pieces who was doing what. >> that's a good point. that's going to be the sung of some of the discussion tomorrow and that members are really -- like how was it that this was wrought to your attention? what were the next moves that you took? was this an email? was this, you know, a certain center within the state department? was this brought to your attention this way. what you can do from there. remember the charge of the committee number one find out what happened. really find out what happened. and then what do we need to do to make sure thisner happens again. and that's going to be the focal point for tomorrow. >> how much does majority leader kevin mccarthy's statement how much is this a damper on the investigation? >> it doesn't help but we are all familiar with misstatements. so secretary clinton herself, you know, couple at one point said regarding qaddafi, we came, we saw, he died. she regrets that that was a foolish thing to say. >> or what difference does it make? is that the same level?
>> i think you so. and my view is this. i think all of that pregame stuff is going to burn off. once we're actually talking about these issues. there is is a loft hype and so forth. i think when it all comes down to it, the focal point is going to be what did she know? what were the facts on the ground? did she get the benefit of certain things or was she denied certain things. >> i still think the video discussion is weird. and the president carried it out really long. he went on television with it. i think he went on the view with it for a couple weeks. u.n. general assembly. the whole thing provoked by video. are a and for the life of me i first him heard they came down and brought mortars and rpgs when i was in wisconsin that wasn't a spontaneous protest by any means. i don't know why they drug that out so long. i can understand being a mistake in the beginning but why did it get dragged out. >> even when they were beginning these discussions these were contemporaneous with americans who were suffering at the time and
under attack at the time. and it was being communicated out that these were, you know, prompted by a video. so, there is a lot of things that we need to cover. and these are questions that i think the american people have a right to know. and technically moving forward. how do we make sure this never happens again. this was a disaster and four people were murdered. >> it's a very dangerous world for all our diplomats. >> that's for sure. >> congressman, thank you, sir it. tomorrow night after secretary clinton testifies. benghazi select committee chairman congressman gowdy goes "on the record." and straight ahead, vice president joe biden is out. so we know what secretary of state hillary clinton is thinking. she is probably dancing. what about the republican candidates? what does it mean for them? that's coming up. but, first, today, it is escalating. more bloody attacks israel. we take you live
leaving at least three people attacked and many injured. john huddy is live in jerusalem, john? >> greta, the boat count continues to grow. in fact just a couple hours ago, we heard sirens racing up the road here to a central bus station where apparently according to the latest report. israeli security forces shot to death and israeli man, a jewish man that they mistakenly thought apparently was a palestinian attacker. at this point we are hearing there was some kind of argument. they thought he was going for one of the soldier's guns, they opened fire. this is indeed the case, greta, it certainly adds to concerns and raises concerns about again, the fear and unease because of the violence leading to deadly cases of mistaken identity. and vigilantism. you may recall on sunday, a security guard shot a man that they thought was a terrorist attacker. a palestinian attacker involved in a terror attack in southern israel. turents out the guy wasn't.
and then after being shot, he was attacked by an angry mob and the man later died. so, a lot of fear and unease with the violence. and as mentioned, the violence continued today. i will walk you through it. earlier in the west bank, a palestinian man attacked a female israeli soldier with a knife. stabbed her in the neck. she is in critical condition. suture attacker was taken into custody. and then later, palestinian roxboro in the west bank attacked military vehicle for whatever reason, the vehicle pulled over. and when the soldiers got out, they were rammed and run over by a vehicle. the soldiers were moderately injured. that driver was shot. no word if he was killed. but this leads to concerns about maybe this is a new terror attack terror tactic. rock throwers damaging a vehicle. driver pulling over, getting out. and then run over, hit by another vehicle. hopefully not.
and as the violence continues, we talked about the political dissension, greta. u.n. secretary general ban ki-moon has been in the region. he met with israeli prime minister netanyahu and also palestinian president mahmoud abbas. talking about quelling the overall violence. right now israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, greta is, in germany, he will be meeting with u.s. secretary of state john kerry, again, to most likely talk about jump starting talks between both sides but, you know, greta earlier, i spoke with the senior israeli official, and i asked is there any type of political discourse, peace talks, et cetera, on the horizon in the answer was short and simple, no. so, the cycle of violence continues as the body count continues to grow. as well. greta? >> john, thank you. thank you, john. and get ready to speed read some other news.
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candidate, i will not be silent. >> the "on the record" political panel is here from the hill a.b. stoddard and abc news political. the first comment went to look for was hillary clinton. she says is he a graduate man today and always commitment to change the world for the better dash h. meaning hillary. what is not written is like yahoo. >> yea, finally. obviously this is a case where the personal and the political just didn't align properly with vice president biden. you were left of this impression with him wanting to do, this striving to do happened looking for the opportunity and couldn't bring himself there. i will tell you though if you look at this, the window that he said is closed. he watched it close along the way. so he saw the political calculation that was part of this and hillary clinton was a big piece of that. she is the overwhelming frontrunner. he would have had to run a harshly negative campaign to get past her. i'm convinced of that. i think he was of that as well and i think this contributed to that.
>> her campaign hits the skids for some reason a long time before the election, he will probably jump in to save the party as they say. a.b., the other tweet i must admit i called into the office and i said what did donald trump tweet? here is what donald trump tweeted i think joe biden made a correct decision for him and his family. personally i would rather run against hillary because her record is so bad. >> i knew instantly when the shocking news, i was actually shocked by. this i thought he sounded in the last three days like he was definitely running. i knew donald trump would be relieved. he doesn't feel so strong up against biden in the general election matchups. he does against hillary. that's not good news for democrats. but, it's interesting. he is, you know, he -- biden would have been a more authentic, more honest and sometimes more outrageous democratic nominee to deal with for donald trump than hillary clinton. >> rick, how does this fit into the calculus of the g.o.p. do any of the g.o.p. candidates care? does it help them or hurt them if biden is in. >> i think they would have preferred to see her sweat
it in the democratic primary. all of the oxygen is out of that. bernie sanders still there and other candidates. if this was manomono. the party ripping itself to shah reds i think v. to think it's a preferable outcome for republicans. she lost the person who would have been her most formidable challenger. >> vice president biden did some sneaky jabs. >> today was very clear. obviously he didn't mention her name, mention the party. >> he didn't mention her name? i don't remember. >> oh, no, not at all. he didn't say we need to elect a democrat. he basically gave the speech he would give if he was announce he was running. he talked about his position. he has been putting a lot of energy in the past few days into drawing highlighting differences with her. he continued to do that today and he showed he was ready. and if she is indicted the party will run to him and beg him to run and he will be ready. >> the headline is stay tuned. rick and a.b. thank you both. a brand new block bust err greta talk podcast just
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