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this is a fox news alert. 224 people are dead as a russian charter jet crashes in egypt's sinai peninsula. a russian affiliate of isis says it brought the airliner down but analysts dismiss it as false. the airliner took off just before 6:00 this morning headed for russia. but then 31 minutes later, the plane disappeared off radar
screens. russian investigators will arrive in egypt on sunday and russia's vladimir putin has declared tomorrow a national day of mourning. we will have more on the story as it develops. now justice with judge jeanine. right now on justice. >> there would be no american boots on the ground. >> about face yet again. the president sends u.s. troops into one of the most dangerous places on earth, syria. when for years, he said it wasn't going to happen. it's tonight's opening statement. >> what do we want? -- >> who would protest against can cops in the city where a cop was gunned down just days before. one of the men who organized this rally is here tonight. it's the interview you don't want to miss. and then a murder mystery sparks national attention.
did this woman intentionally kill her fiance on a kayak trip and make it look liken accident or is she the real victim? tonight you'll hear the real facts and hear my verdict. justice starts now. hello and welcome to "justice." i'm judge jeanine shapiro. so now we're sending troops to syria, not combat, mind you, just to train and assist. but to the bottom line for me and every military family in america is that u.s. assets are now on the ground in a country where our truth challenged president pledged they would never be where our president said would be a mistake because that's what isis would want. >> there would be no american boots on the ground. any action we take would be
limited, two both in time and scope. >> mr. president, you don't know what you're doing. a little history. in 2012 you said assad would be crossing a red line if he used chemical weapons. you put the power, the dignity and the credibility of the united states of america behind that threat. assad crosses your red line and you do nothing, and then in your never ending dithering on foreign policy you usay you're going to ask congress for reauthorization of military. and john kerry, that foreign policy genius the one that just negotiated that iran nuclear deal says that in order to stop assad in syria syria would have to turn over it's chemical weapons. when the deadlines are not met, no one seems to care.
syria announces abu dhabi as its leader the one we let out of prison now is head of al qaeda. then they start killing us. september of 2014 we start a very limited bombing of isis in syria, again with the promise of no troops on the ground. and mr. president, in september of this year one day after meeting with you, and not telling you, putin starts air strikes in syria. and in your most prophetorial manner you say that's not the way to go. >> as we continue to have these conversations and i suspect that russia realizes that they're not going to be able to bomb their way to a peaceful situation inside syria, we'll be able to make progress on that front.
>> now you're the one sending troops to syria. but then again, it's not combat. ten days ago master sergeant joshua wheeler in iraq to simply assist iraqi forces who wasn't in combat was killed in combat. are you schizophrenic? you announce that you're going to send $100 million to the syrian rebels? wait. why, didn't we just spend $500 million training them? and how did that work out? we got five guys trained, and they ran off. maybe they're going to start the middle east version of five guys pizza. almost 300,000 syrians dead. russia get into the game he didn't bother to tell you on the day he met you, he just starts bombing the same day, and you
don't even sound good you say assad must go who are we to tell them that assad must go. you went back when he crosses your red line and now you're going to stand up like a bully in a schoolyard and yell what needs to be done? even russia when asked if assad should go gave a more democratic answer let syria decide within the frame work of the political process. now after isis controls more than half of syria, more than 300,000 people dead antiquities and churches and christians killed you decide to send ground troops into syria? why? how do we even know who we're fighting? we have got the assad forces with we have got the al qaeda, and tons of different militias and the russian special forces. and now you want to ramp it up.
why? why would we put american soldiers in this caldron of medieval barbarism why would we put our soldiers in sereyria's cross hairs. the area where we're planning to place these special operators is not where russia has struck or would need to strike. how do you know mr. president, where russia wants the strike? russia is striking the anti-assad forces that we are now supporting and training. let's not kid each other. there are jets flying at supersonic speed chasing other jets piles of airplanes out there, and remember the fog of war. the one by the way that you and hillary used in benghazi that not so foggy narrative. but we kill our own in friendly
fire all the time in iraq and afghanistan. you don't think that russia's going to seize any opportunity to mix it up with us? after all they're in partnership with iran and syria. my fear? u.s. and iran are now on a collision force, why would you put u.s. in syria's crosshairs. why would you put our forces in iran? what do you think going to syria is going to do? they can now claim that we're occupiers and get a whole new generation engaged in hating us. why don't you be honest mr. president, isn't this really a result of being one upped by putin? be careful what you wish for you, you just might get it and it's to the u.s. military
families that will ultimately pay the price. with with me now is the former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and the fox news contributor john bolton, good evening ambassador why is obama only making the case now that it's time to put boots on the ground in syria? >> his policy has been incoherent for the last three years. you laid out the promises he made and failed to keep the red lines he's drawn and famed to follow up on. but he said syria had to go but at the same time assad had to go. at the same time he was pursuing a nuclear deal with iran. if he went after assad, he would have complicated the situation with iran. that's when it was relatively uncomplicated. now the situation on the ground
is putting these 50 operatives in just puts them in with targets on their back. it's too little too late response that unfortunatelypolicy is not going to get any better. >> in 2014 we're going to put some boots on the ground, not combat train and assist. but we know what that means. we know he's always deathered. but what pushed him on this one? >> sometimes it's a combination of what he thinks is his political liability combined with reelity on the ground. john kerry made it clear today that these 50 boots would be after assad in the iran. but the whole approach to isis the president saying the objective is to degrade and
ultimately destroy isis they have not accomplished that. russia going after the free syrian army has been far more intense and far more effective an what we have done in the last 24 months. so we should expose 50 people to danger? >> like our sortes. what percentage are dead planes without bombs? >> every plane that goes over is a a sorry tee. but it's precious little on the ground, unfortunately. . >> i was trying to figure out so i do my own little thing. there are so many people in syria right now, you have russia you have isis you have assad, you have the free syrian army you have the u.s. you have al qaeda, you have the al
nurse are. how can we not get into a mess heresome. >> i think that's part of the problem of not having a reelal plan to deal with isis. it's to prop up the assad rejean it's to -- boundaries of what ---the other elements of the opposition. isis to this point has been incidental. but isis is supposed to be one of our main objectives. that is destroying it is what the president himself has said he wants to do. >> he said in destroying isis supposedly in -- he's saying russia is going after isis but isn't hi propping up assad? >> when you do strategic
analysis it really is not that hard you figure out what your biggest threats are and then you assess your need to oppose them. threat number one in that area is iran and threat number two is syria. syria has gotten the -- that they haven't had for 50 years since they were thrown out of eegypt by anwar sadat back in the 1970s. >> he wants to look like we want to bewant -- joining me is the -- your reaction to the president's edecision to the send special ops forces to syria? >> looking at your monologue, i got dizzy because you cataloged this president's incoherence.
and i worry, these guys are are very eleet fighters of course but a small number of fighters when your policy is so incoherent it's really been a king midas in reverse. everything he has touched has turned bad. so i'm not optimistic that this is going to be a successful foreign policy. when you have buys like sergeant ben wheeler who was killed in combat. when people are shooting at you, you're in combat. >> on the heels of this sergeant wheeler being killed supposedly not in combat but killed in combat. and then it's a week ten days that he says i'm sending 50 more, not for combat. >> a lot of this is semantics, you played and you called him on the fact that he said we're not
going to have any more boots on the ground. there's really been boots on the ground the whole time if you want to be honest. so they're can doing all these verbal gymnastics and they're not leveling with the american people. he eastside's doing this because he wait a minute toss show that he's -- i don't think he has any intent on -- >> in the last few months he changed the policy on afghanistan and he's changing his policy in syria, and, you know it seems to me that he's trying to run the clock until he gets out of office and if he had listened to his generals would he even be in this situation? >> i think you're right, when you go back and see, either he
yanks all to the people out of iraq because he wanted to be president. but he realizes if he did that in afghanistan, if he continues with a failed policy vis-a-vis isis in iraq, or in syria, he doesn't want this to happen on his watch. so when the next president come into office he's going to have a nice gift with a bow tie and everything saying here are all these problems you deal with it. >> you sent a letter to the president calling for the removal of the irs commissioner. why did you want him removed and did the white house respond? >> they didn't respond, so i joined a number of my colleagues in filing articles of impeachment against the irs commissioner. because here's the deal, no taxpayer would be able to get away if they were the subject of an irs audit, of destroying
documents, refusing to produce documents, lying to the irs. no way you're going to get away with that. so why is the irs agent to congress able to get away with that they refused to turn over documents and that the inspector general found and they thumbed their nose to congress. >> but what are the chances of him being impeached. >> the house is a majority vote. i think you're going to see a lot of people not wanting to give to the the commissioner a pass and allow him to live under a different standard than that he imposes on american taxpayers. then it goes to the senate. i think a lot democrats who try to rally around him, but they're going to have to explain that to their constituents. i wouldn't want to explain that. >> thanks for being with us tonight. still ahead, the war on can
cops president obama weighs in and i'll get reaction from sharon clark. and the one who organized the police protest speaks to me and tells me why, and you're note going to believe his answer. and former front-runner herrmann kaine is here. what do you want them to ask at the next debate. tweet me at the #judgejeanine.
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an outraged rnc says they have suspended their partnership with fnc because of cnbc's handling of the third debate. joining us is someone who knows a little bit about behind one of those podiums, presidential candidate and business has herrmann kaine. to the rnc says that they will not take part in the fnc debate.
do you think he would have done this without the candidates's approval? >> no he would not have. and the good news that came out of that debate is that the candidates won and the moderators lost. and i'm glad that the chairman dared to say that we're not going to take that blatant liberal bias that they displayed the other night. so that's positive. but one thing that came out of this is the democratic biasa came out of this. they were able to give some substance to the american people, but they had to dig to be able to do it. >> what does ry co-do they have to do to make sure that this is going to be a fair debate. >> allow the candidates and
the -- we knew that these particular moderators were going to take shots at these candidates. when the first question is what is your greatest weakness. that instead of what are your strengths. they were trying to catch these candidates off guard and it backfired. i think some approval of the moderates and the rnc candidates will help the success of the next debate. >> the moderators didn't even say what the rules were. now ben carson from iowa is leading trump. why do you think ben is leading trump now?
>> i believe ben is leading trump now because he's like the little engine that culled he's the tortoise people are learning what he says not how he says it. trump can regain to the the lead but he's going to have to be more focused on substance and not insults. i don't think he understands that a presidential cam pain is a long process, and it's still unfolding, that's what this illustrates. >> is its over for herrmann? >> i think so and here's why, he got off to a bad start, because he was perceived as an establishment candidate, he got off to a bad start when he supported common core and then he tried to change it. then as donald trump says and i
know that a lot of people don't like the way donald trump de deskribs things. be sure to tune in tuesday for the next gop presidential debate on our sister station fox business network, you're not going to want to miss this one. next a protest against police in new york city just days after a cop is shot and killed. last week i asked, who are these people and why would they do this? tonight one of them is here and i'll ask him myself. don't go aeway.
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headquarters. investigators are on their way to egypt after a crash of a russian sinai jet crash had 224 people aboard including seven children. the pilot radioed in after he started experiencing technical problems. the black box has been recovered. this year's triple crown winner going off in the 3-5 favorite in this breeder's cup classic. he was behind in the homestretch running a mile an a quarter in record time. a $2 ticket paid $3.40. and now "justice with judge jeanine." i reject any narrative that seeks the divide police and communities that they serve.
i reject the story line that says when it comes to public safety there's an us and a them. >> president obama in chicago this week says he rejects narratives that seeks to divide police and the people they serve. welcome clark county sheriff. how does the president support al sharpton who sends the attorney general to investigate racism in ferguson but his own police department he couldn't back up say he's on the side of the police. >> you know that he created this narrative that coincided with the police. this has gone on long enough. the president of the united states and his people need to get their boot off the back of the american police officers so that we can get up and go back the to help maintain what little
quality of life exists in the american ghetto. we want to go back to enforce constitutionally approved laws the rules of law. we want to engage in self initiated and assertive policing to help protect the good law abiding black people that live in the american ghetto. but the officers are not going to do that without the protection of the political class, who have to be guided by the rule of law instead of emotional rhetoric. >> i want you to listen to fbi director jim comey. >> i spoke to officers privately in one big city precinct who describe being surrounded by young people with mobile phones held high taunting them kwhn they get out of their cars. they said to me we feel under siege and we don't feel much like getting out of our cars. >> the fbi director who has been
besieged several times, being criticized by the bush administration as insend area what do you think of what jim c o mrks comey said? is that an accurate depiction of police today? >> he doesn't let politics get in the way of his integrity, he would never do that. i was pleased with what i heard. i have talked to as many officers as he had, he is correct, until this onslaught, this smearing of the character, to the integrity, the sacrificing of the american police officer, until it stops, these rising crime rates, this violence is going to continue. and it's to the detriment of the law abiding black community, i think it's a shame that the president plays politics that
politics plays into this it's not in the best interests of politics and not in the interest of the american black people. >> why is the officer -- >> law enforcements have to the stay in a state of hyper vigilance, we have to watch people we have to observe our surroundings as we go about this dangerous task. that creates a distraction, then we have focus on that and then face maybeapon. >> why is that a distraction? >> because we're supposed to when we get out of those cars, if we get sent to trouble with a subject or a man with a gun, we're supposed to be focused on potential threat not some crowd that's acting sill ely and acting goofy, because that takes our attention away from what we need to keep us safe.
for eme, it's very distracting. next thing i know, i'm under attack attack i get shot i get stabbed or manager like that. >> thank you for being with us tonight. joining us tonight, carl dicks, the stop the mass incarceration network, he was also organizer of the protest last week in new york city. last saturday good evening, i said last saturday i i said i can't believe that they would have an anti-police protest within days of a police officer being shot. was i wrong? >> well, look we had that protest because police have been getting away with murder. they have been brutalizing and killing people and the whole system the legal system the media has gone into operation to cover up their murderous deeds. that needs to stop. and that's what we were asking
to do. >> so you don't feel any remorse for having done this when officer holder was killed just days before that. >> i don't want to talk about officer holder. >> you want to talk about police killing people but you're not going to talk about people killing cops? >> it's all coming from the police i don't know what happened. i do know what happened to eric garner. we all saw him choke the to death. i know what happened to -- >> there are problems with eric garner. let's just find some common ground here i know a lot of people who are concerned with the eric garner case and the choke held but americans were on it. >> i don't care who was on it. my eyes do not lie to me. >> you were there? >> there's a video of it.
you saw it too, i believe. >> a chokehold, definitely. but the equestion is we only saw one angle of the video. >> i don't need to see a bunch of angles. because the prosecutor who went in front of the judge, even though they helped including one who was kneeling in the back. you do that when you need their testimony. or when you want to clear the perpetrators. that's what was being set up. >> i know the drill. >> he didn't want to give those cops a pass. >> four cops have been shot two sitting in their car eating their lunch before christmas. one guy ends up shot chasing a career criminal and the fourth cop is shot, again by someone with an intense criminal record, you don't see any reason to protest the killing of people
that you need to realize you're in trouble? >> last year about 30 cops have lost their lives in the line of duty in the same time period 1,000 people have been killed by police. >> so far from january 1 to today, the number is over 950. >> i have 930. >> 930 was a week ago. that's what it was when we did our demonstration. so 300 of them. >> who are you going to call when you're in trouble? >> if you're in trouble and you're black or latino then you're in truck. we have several dozen police who lost their loved ones lives because they called 911 to get some help for a family member who was having a mental episode who ended up being killed by police.
>> this is the bottom line. >> this is part of the reality everywhere. >> got to go. there is a system and i'll tell you the system works. >> the system works to exonerate killer cops. no cop gets punished no matter how horrific. go on the administration's website, that's the reality, police are getting away with murder and we are asking to stop it. this case has been fired up. a woman who's sitting in jail because police say she murdered her fiance on a kayak trip. i'm going to show you the huge holes in this case that you can sea right through. stay with us.
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welcome back to justice. a case in suburban new york making national headlines. a woman accused of murdering her fiance out on the hudson liver on a ayack trip. how did she do it? she didn't shoot him and throw him overboard, she didn't stab him in the back. cops said that she unplug drain and his kayak sank and he drown. vince and his fiance anjelica jumped into their kayak on the hudson river. but things got rough, vince's kayak capsized and he went into the hudson. vince wasn't wearing a life jacket but the woman he planned
to marry was and she lived. it looks like a tragic accident that ended a promising love story. but the prosecutor says she took out the drain plug before the trip so the kayak would fill with water. not the conventional way to off your feeiance, but now anjelica is in jail awaiting trial for murder. anjelica didn't even know she was under arrest when she was interrogateded by police for 11 hours, and she described the pressure that she felt to engage in threesomes by her fiance she finally blurted out, i want him dead i'm okay with it.
now the investigators say to the homicide was due to the is intentional removal of the kayak plug yet out would the investigator know if there was a plug or if she recovered it. but she was a beneficiary of his life insurance policy. the claim that anjelica tried to kill her fiance by going out in a kayak, where she would in as much danger as she would would be stupid. he suffered hypothermia in 46-degree water. her kayak did not cap sidesizecapsize, she called 911 and she was arrested before vincent's body was even found, before cops even knew what the exact cause of death was, she's in jail awaiting trial on $9 million bond.
the trial is set to begin early next year. with me is an aca level 2 kayak instructor and guide. you said that you paddle daily and have been a certified guide instructor for four years. tell us about the kayak that angelique and vince were using. >> it's really kayaks that you use on flat water,lakes and ponds, stuff like that. >> so those are recreational? >> yeah they're recreational. you sit inside them you have a skirt that goes around your torso that would keep water out of your kayak, an they didn't have that so water can get in. >> so water can get in easier without a skirt? >> if you're in tough water. >> where is the drain of the kayak? >> the drain is at the back of the kayak just behind where you grab it the to move it. so there's no way to get in
there unless you push it into the water, otherwise there's no pressure there's no way for water to get in there. >> what's the diameter of the plug? >> isles >> it's about an inch in diameter. >> in order for the kayak to get submerged in water, the kayak would have to be submerge? >> would taking the plug out be enough to capsize itsome. >> it's for when you're done kayaking that you pull the plug and let the water drain out. >> i'm going to assume the water is 46 degrees, the wind's blowing, the current going north and the wind's eblowing south. how does this affect the kayak? >> if you're going to get winds and currents going in directions you're going to get waves.
>> so it's going to be difficult? >> it's going to be more challenging. it depends on the person's ability to 6'2", big guy, and she's 5 feet tall. how does that affect their ability in these currents and wind? >> what will affect their ability is their ability to kayak. but a larger person has a higher center of gravity. so it could make them tippier if the boat is filled with water because they have no skirt and water is getting in. that will make the boat -- it could make the boat more unstable. >> so it would be more dangerous for him than her. >> it would be more challenging perhaps, but not necessarily more dangerous. the fact that they had no skirt, that adds -- that will add water into the boat. >> and he had no life vest on, and he had several drinks. >> which you never go into the water without a life vest. as a kayaker, ever. and adding alcohol to it it's just attracting murphy's law. murphy lives on the water, and
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