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>> hello. i'm jeanine pirro. can you get away with murder for decades if you're a millionaire from one of the wealthiest families in america? in the case of new york miller, real estate heir robinson durst, i believe the answer is yes. durst got away with the shooting and dismembering of his texas neighbor morris black in 2001. now he's accused of killing his best friend susan berman, who was shot dead in 2000 in california. but for me it's the 1982 disappearance of his first wife, kathleen, in new york that haunts me to this day. as district attorney in westchester county, new york i reopened the cold case 16 years ago, and it's been a neverending quest for justice to find out what really happened to
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kathleen. now watch this special, read my new book "he killed them all," to sey believe robert durst is guilty of all these crimes. multimillionaire robert durst is part of a new york real estate dynasty. his grandfather founded the durst organization in 1915, which today has an estimated net worth of $5.2 billion. the durst properties have dominate the manhattan skyline for decades. their impressive portfolio includes the bank of america tower, 1155 avenue of the americas, and a stake in the freedom tower in lower manhattan. born in april 1943, robert durst grew up in new york's affluent town of scarsdale in this house along with his two brothers and
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sister. his father hoped his oldest son, robert, would one day take over the family business. in 1973 on his 30th birthday he married beautiful 20-year-old kathleen mccormack. i interviewed kathie's best friend gilberti najami in the hospital just months before she passed away. >> did you know when they first met they were in love, right? >> her face would light up when bobby called. she was in love. she was in love in the beginning. >> reporter: the couple split their time between this lake house in westchester county, south salem, and this apartment building on riverside drive in manhattan. in 1978 kathie enrolled in the albert einstein medical school. soon after, kathie's family and
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friends began to see serious cracks in their relationship. >> did you know robert to beat kathleen? >> yes. i would drive down to the city from connecticut to be with her because she was afraid he was coming back. she hesitated to go to the hospital because of course she was a medical student and it was embarrassing. >> reporter: this is what kathie's brother, jim mccormack, told me on my show back in march 2015. >> his abuse escalated. and i've done a lot of reflection, judge, on his abuse. and let me tell you. it was emotional. it was verbal. it was intellectual. it was psychological. it was economical. and eventually it was physical. >> physical. >> would she say what the arguments were about? >> they weren't about anything really. they were just -- he was intimidated that she was going to become a doctor. and she wasn't going to need him. she would call me in the middle of the night and say he just woke me up, he's showing me a gun, and he's telling me that i'm not going to finish medical
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school. >> reporter: in 1981, eight years into their marriage, kathie had reached her boiling point. she pressed robert for a divorce while he continued to make her life hell. >> do you know whether or not her lawyer making an offer to his lawyer regarding a divorce? >> no. she never got to the point of deciding how much she wanted. she didn't want a lot. she was going to own a children's clinic. she was going to be okay on her own. >> three weeks after being treated for facial injuries at jacoby medical center the 29-year-old, just months away from becoming a medical doctor herself, vanished. gilberte last saw her friend alive in connecticut on the evening of january 31, 1982. kathie left in a hurry after a phone call from robert. >> it was a dinner party. it was my parents and my sisters. that's all. there was like maybe eight people there. >> you also witnessed what was
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going on. >> exactly. everybody in my house heard him screaming at the other end of the phone, "kathie, get your ass home." when she left my house, she turned to me and said, "gilberte, promise me if something happens to me tonight you'll check it out, you won't let him get away with it. i'm afraid of him." >> after kathie returned home to south salem, robert claimed he drove his wife to their local train station in katonah so she could stay in their manhattan apartment. but many, including gilberte and myself, believe she never made it onto that train headed to grand central station. when you said to robert durst, "where's kathie," what exactly did he say to you? i put her on the train and all that. >> i put her on the train and i thought she was staying overnight at school. i said she doesn't stay overnight at school. she lives in the city.
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"well, i know she got back to the apartment. i talked to her." >> and robert durst waited five days before reporting his wife missing to new york city authorities. >> he carried a magazine with a picture on the front, the five men who really own manhattan. and don't you know, seymour durst was right in the middle. and he said, you know who i am, right? >> gilberte never stopped believing that robert was responsible for her best friend's disappearance. >> what led you to think that he might be involved in kathleen's disappearance? >> the first week he had thrown away her mail. it was unopened. her clothes. her medical books. her surgical scrubs. things that she would have needed. it's been 33 years. that's why i've kept up this promise. i have promised my best friend. and i'm going to keep the promise. i'm going to see justice done. >> my quest for justice for kathleen durst began in 1999,
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when i was westchester county district attorney. i reopened kathie's case. i recently sat down with journalist kathy scott, texas investigator cody kazalac, and two former members from my westchester team. lead senior investigator john o'donnell and assistant d.a. clem patty, my second deputy district attorney. >> thanks so much for joining me. kathie durst. what do you remember and what led us to take another look at it? >> she had everything to live for. she was just not going to go on the run and disappear as if -- as if, you know, leave everything behind. they had a beautiful home up on lake truesdale. we began to examine them, reinterview people. we found some very interesting facts, scary facts. >> we send divers to check out the lake. they of course find nothing. and then the house. what did we do?
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>> well, we brought a cadaver dog in. the dog hit on some stuff. but you know, who knows 19 years later whether it was a dead squirrel or -- >> let's talk about that new york city file. do you remember that it was a very thin file? do you remember what our reaction was at the time? >> we said, that's it? >> that's all there is? >> is that all there is? >> and it's amazing. do you think nypd took it seriously? i mean, what did they do? how left-wing did they look at it? what didn't you do? >> you're asking a person who does not want to criticize other law enforcement ever. >> no, i'm asking for the truth. >> little was done. it was treated like a missing persons case. it was treated like a family break-up and she was on the run, left with a boyfriend and that was all there was. >> the suggestion she ran off with another guy was almost like she fell off the face of the earth and that's what women do, you know she's sluts, you know, they just take off and we don't know anything. but she was close to her family.
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and i connected with her because she was in medical school around the time i was in law school. and when they came up with this excuse that she called the dean one day and said she wasn't coming in, she was sick, i'm thinking to myself, jeanine, is there any chance that i'm going to call the dean at the law school and say you know, what dean, i've got a runny nose, i'm not in today, do you think he'd take my call? so it was all that stuff that just didn't make sense. and then you find out that maybe she's a victim of domestic violence. >> right. >> kathleen -- i'm sorry. kathleen was petrified of him as her friend said. she had a report to him often during the course of the day. which also when we were looking at it, i believe you said it, boss, he waits five or six days to report. meanwhile, he's a jealous guy and wants her in communication all the time. so why wait the five days? >> what's the five days mean to you? >> the five days means to me that he had to of her and then he had to get his story straight. the thing that was crazy to me
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was her family is all raised up, all upset about her missing because it's not something that occurs normally. his family, on the other hand, there's nothing wrong. >> coming up next, find out why i went to a place called the pine barrens and ship bottom, new jersey to search
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she is his spokesperson when the press starts talking to him about his missing wife, kathie. tell bus her. >> susan berman was a mob daughter. her dad was davy berman who was partners with bugsy siegel in las vegas. she met robert durst when they both went to ucla. they became fast friends. and she understood him. they both came from money. they were sort of the entitled background. and they stayed friends. and when she graduated she moved up to san francisco, graduated with a master's degree, and then followed robert durst to new york city. >> and in fact, didn't he walk her down the aisle when she got married? >> he sure did. she called him "the brother i never had." and he walked her down the aisle. >> and everybody knew how close they were, but did they ever have a romantic relationship? >> they were never, never that way. she was never interested in him that way and vice versa. but they told each other everything. >> but kathy, did he ever talk to the media? i don't believe he did. >> he never talked to the media. she was -- you know, robert durst had a way of hiding very well.
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and he hid behind susan. >> i do firmly believe she's the one who picked up that phone and called the medical school. susan was also telling the media that they thought she ran away. so susan kept putting that out to the media. i think that's why -- she sort of spoon-fed them. she was a member of the media. she would have walked on fire for the man, and she did. >> john o'donnell and i recently took a trip down to the pine barrens in southern new jersey. why the pine barrens? because it's a dense, million-acre forest, a really great place to bury a body. mobsters did it all the time. when i first reopened kathleen durst's case we began piecing together a puzzle, and the pine barens fit right in. around the time kathie went missing the durst organization had a long-held policy that the only collect calls they would accept were from seymour and robert durst. two days after kathie disappeared a collect call was
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accepted from here, which was once a laundromat in the small town of ship bottom, new jersey. ship bottom is located on long beach island around 25 miles north of atlantic city and just four miles from the pine barens. that put durst near a known burial ground right after kathie vanished. i sent john down there in 2002 to meet one a legendary local tracker and survivalist. >> hi. i'm tom brown. i'm known as the tracker. i've been tracking for 54 years of my life. i've solved over 600 tracking cases. i've been shot three times, stabbed four times, missing teeth and the holy grail for my tracking career is to find durst's body right here. >> john and tom haven't seen each other in almost 15 years. >> nice to see you, dude. >> good to see you. >> jeanine pirro.
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>> another piece of the puzzle that led us down to the pine barrens came from something gilberte found way back in 1982. >> every sunday night for about six months i collected bob durst's garbage from the south salem home, and i went through it and cataloged and photographed every single thing that i got. and i found this little slip of paper. >> the slip of paper contained a strange list. and back in 2002 the first thing john did was to show it to tom brown. >> boy, he looked at it, he goes i know exactly where we're going. >> so we're talking about that list that they found with robert's handwriting where he says town, dump, shovel -- >> bridge. >> bridge. and that brought you here. >> yep. >> tell us why. show me. let's talk about it. where's the bridge? >> it's actually about a mile and a half down this way. >> this is the bridge to nowhere. it was a bridge built to an island where housing would be constructed. although no construction ever
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materialized, robert durst would have been familiar with the bridge. >> how does he know about this place? >> it's just local legend. >> but he's not from here. >> people illegally dump here. >> my theory in 1982 was atlantic city was all the rage, property developers were looking for places to put in developments and big buck housing. who would know better than people from the durst foundation about selling real estate? >> the durst organization, yeah. >> this would have been known -- >> and if they had put that bridge in and completed it over to that island, that would have been prime, prime -- >> that is the bridge to nowhere. >> right across there is long beach island, and where he got the dry cleaning done was ship bottom, right there. >> back in 2002 tom and john spent upwards of a week poking around the pine barrens near the bridge to nowhere. >> this is all just wetlands. thick muck, tangles of brush.
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we walked this whole area and he taught me about looking for depressions because the body decomposes a little bit and there's a depression. >> up where he killed her, i believe he killed her, you couldn't have buried a body up there. it was frozen. down here it doesn't get frozen like that. you can dig in this -- >> it doesn't affect it. >> yeah. it's like a compost heap. all the bacterial action causes some heat. >> okay. so you can dig here at the end of january, beginning of february. >> absolutely. >> although they didn't find her, tom has never stopped looking for kathleen durst. >> how many times have you searched this area, tom? >> on and off officially about 13, 14 times. >> and when you do the searching, how many people search with you? >> anywhere from just me to 40, 50 people. all trained. >> well, hope springs eternal.
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>> i hope so. >> coming up -- in 2001 a headless torso is found floating in galveston bay, texas. and guess who just happened to be living there at the time. we always were told we were german. we were in a german dance group. i wore lederhosen. so i just started poking around on ancestry. then, i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. it turns out i'm scottish. so, i traded in my lederhosen for a kilt.
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texas. september 30th, 2001. a 13-year-old boy fishing in galveston bay would come across a most gruesome discovery, a floating torso near the shoreline. police found garbage bags containing human limbs and other evidence. >> discovered the torso of a elderly man who was floating in the water. the head, arms, and legs have been removed from the torso.
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>> the police never found the head but would later identify the body parts as belonging to 74-year-old morris black. morris black lived here, a low-income area of galveston, where his, in a a mute woman named dorothy signer, lived next door. the police would soon find out his neighbor was actually multimillionaire robert durst. he was hiding out in galveston because i had reopened the 1982 case of his missing wife kathleen as westchester d.a. >> he had rented an apartment dressed as a female, wearing a wig, wearing makeup. >> on the emmy award-winning hbo documentary series "the jinx" robert durst discusses his reasoning for the disguise. >> in terms of the disguise that you chose, you know, you talk about that in galveston. >> it's the only disguise i could think of. i'm a guy. what is a guy going to do? i could grow a beard and a
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mustache. and i'd periodically worn a beard and a mustache in new york city. but i can't grow a beard and a mustache now. can't do it by tomorrow morning. i would have to get some kind of a thing to put on my face. and i just couldn't imagine that any of that would act vaguely real. i just came up with the idea of the wig and then since i'm going to be a woman i've got to be mute because i cannot sound the way i sound. >> and on october 9th, 2001, durst, who shot morris black in the head, was arrested and charged with murder. he posted bail of $300,000 and immediately went on the run. he was hunted for six weeks before authorities caught him stealing a sandwich, band-aids, and a newspaper at a wegman's
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over 1500 miles away in bethlehem, pennsylvania. >> there's no motive and nothing to gain for bob durst to kill morris black. >> there's a reason we don't have to prove motive. because things like what this killer did just are never going to make sense. >> on september 22nd, 2003 the trial began. durst's high-powered attorneys pled self-defense and even put robert on the stand. >> there is no proof that this was an intentional knowing cold-blooded murder as they've charged. >> you don't cut somebody up, another human being, into pieces and bag him up, dump him in the bay when you act in self-defense. >> on november 11th, 2003 i still can't believe the jury bought robert durst's defense hook, line and sinker. >> we the jury find the
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defendant robert durst not guilty. >> so who was morris black? >> well, he was a retired merchant marine. elderly man. he would on occasion yell at people because he -- you know, cantankerous. but he never put his hands on anybody. that's why unfortunately the defense made him out to be a monster. they needed a bogey man. but he was shot, he was dismembered, he was packaged up like garbage in garbage bags and thrown in the water. and nobody deserves that. >> why is the head removed and the arms and the legs are left? >> if the head was located, it would blow his defense. and i think that's why he dumped it in the louisiana swamp. >> what do you find in the garbage that tells you that the person who killed this guy is robert durst? >> it's a receipt for an eye clinic where he got an eye exam. and he's so tight that he comes all the way back to galveston in the midst of the firestorm just
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to retrieve that $50 pair of glasses. >> okay. so you're making the arrest for morris black's murder. >> i explained to him that he was being arrested for murder of morris black and his bond was going to be set at $250,000. he asked me what should i do. i nonchalantly said i don't know, do you have $250,000. and he just said, not on me. the way he said it was like -- i thought in the back of my mind this guy has access to $250,000. he's very unassuming. he makes one phone call to new york and says nonchalantly galveston is arresting for murder and he needs $300,000. and debra says, well, it will be there tomorrow morning. at this point we didn't know who robert durst was, we didn't know who debra was. we're like who's debra lee? the story i love is they come
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into your office and they say hey, we found robert -- we found durst's wife. >> yeah. >> i love that story. you found her? >> you found her? she's alive? or is she dead? >> no, it's the new wife. it's deborah lee. >> how would you describe deborah lee charition? >> she's a tough cookie. ah! come on! let's hide in the attic. no. in the basement. why can't we just get in the running car? are you crazy? let's hide behind the chainsaws. smart. yeah. ok. if you're in a horror movie, you make poor decisions. it's what you do. this was a good idea. shhhh. be quiet. i'm being quiet. you're breathing on me! if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. head for the cemetery!
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and they can out this video out of mississippi. an i hop parking lot caved in, swallowing a dozen cars close to where people were eating. the hole, measuring 35 feet wide and 400 feet long. experts will be on the scene monday to examine the site. i'm kelly wright. now back to justice with judge jeaneane green. now back to "justice with judge gene gene jeanine." after robert durst was arrested for morris black's murder in october 2001 he calls his new wife, deborah, to post the $300,000 bail. now back with the panel to discuss my nemesis, robert durst. >> he posts the bond, and then he runs. he forfeits the $300,000.
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and how do you catch him? >> well, i wish i could say i did catch him, but i didn't. he got caught in pennsylvania. he walks into a supermarket in pennsylvania as morris black, shaved his head, and had rented a car as morris black, using his driver's license. and he shoplifted a -- >> chicken salad. >> -- chicken salad sandwich and a band-aid and a newspaper. like it totaled up to less than 12 bucks. and got arrested for doing that. >> we're waiting to get the judge's permission to execute the warrant. what do we find in the trunk? >> he with found a lot of cash. two .38-caliber revolvers. 100 rounds of ammunition. a notebook with notes in it in green ink in his writing that when we traced it back, when your office traced it back it was a road map to gilberte's house and place of employment.
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there's not a doubt in my mind that he was going -- i think he believed this was his last hurrah, he was on the run for murder in galveston, he was visiting old haunts, old homes. i think that he believed he was probably not going to survive this. and i think that he was going to try to kill gilberte because i think in his mind she started all this in motion and kept it perpetuated, kept the heat on nypd, which got your office to open up the investigation. everybody thought we had a great case. except 12 people that sat in the jury box. unfortunately, i made that comment, i said it was a slam dunk, and i really thought at the time it was a slam dunk. those words came back to haunt me. >> cody, let me tell you something. i was there during your investigation, and i have -- i will tell you right now, it was superb. you don't need to apologize to anyone for the way that trial turned out. >> i thank you for that. >> really.
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it was -- your team, your people, your forensic people, they were awesome. >> you did a spectacular job. >> thank you. >> wait. you're emotional. this is still bothering you, isn't it? >> of course it does. of course it does. >> these two huge -- i've got this texan -- i mean, you know, people think you're tough guys, but you really do fight for the victims, don't you? >> yeah. >> that's what you do. >> december 2000, los angeles. robert's best friend, susan berman, is shot execution style in the back of the head in her home. is this also the handiwork of robert durst? >> he takes off for galveston in 2000. susan berman was in dire straits financially and was desperate to get a hold of bobby. she ended up writing a letter to the durst organization saying can you get this letter to bobby for me? she couldn't understand why he was in galveston bay. well, we know the reason he
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left, he fled is because the media reported that westchester police were interested in talking to susan berman about kathleen durst's disappearance. and he high-tailed it. >> it was after our case went public, and he knew that she knew she was in dire straits, he had the money, he gave her money. >> shutting her up. and then he -- and he was scared to death that she was going to talk. >> susan berman is found dead. okay? but there's a note. >> the note was mailed to the beverly hills police department. was postmarked the day before her body was found. she was dead for about a day and a half when they found her. it's called the cadaver note. and it's handwritten in capital letters, "cadaver" and the address. whoever killed susan wrote that cadaver note that was sent to beverly hills police tipping them off that there was a body inside. >> all right. so when i find out, john, after you go to l.a. that the cadaver note is written in green ink,
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i'm thinking this guy only writes in green ink, durst definitely killed her along -- >> beverly is misspelled. >> beverly is misspelled. okay. why did l.a. not solve this case? >> because they had -- at the time they had no idea who bobby durst was. >> she let him into her house. >> there was no forced entry. >> she let him in, he shot her in the back of the head. >> you think she knew what was coming? >> i don't think so. i think she was completely naive. >> comfortable with her. >> she knew what he was capable of. whether or not she thought he was capable of doing anything to her, i think she put herself in harm's way by telling him that i'm going to talk to the detectives. >> but the problem with the case is they hung on to it for 2 1/2 weeks and homicide robbery didn't get it for 2 1/2 weeks. so those guys -- >> i was there days -- i was there days after her homicide, or death. >> that's straight from the detective. >> i was there with them working
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on -- >> that's their story -- >> i was there. >> i don't care what their story is. >> that's my story. >> i'm in the office, you're in the office, you're in the office. and paul colter's in the office from l.a. >> wow. >> we knew. i put together a task force. i don't care who you're talking to. you can talk to the bogey man for all i care. so we say look, this guy writes in green ink, robert durst killed her, he sent her $50,000, he had motive, means, and opportunity, he was in l.a., and l.a. couldn't put it together. okay? and that's the end of it. don't even object to that. and sure enough, it took "the jinx" to solve it. >> up next i sit down with the director and the producer of hbo's emmy-winning documentary series "the jinx."
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into this billionaire family in beautiful westchester county with all the opportunity in the world and somehow ended up 70 years later in a $300 a month rooming house in galveston, texas disguised as a mute woman. that was a story that we could not ignore. >> how did you first find out about it, marc? >> back in the day. back when the original disappearance of kathie happened and then you reopened the case. >> and so you decided first to do this film with ryan gosling, "all good things." why? >> well, marc and i grew up in that part of the world. we were interested in this man's story. and we had followed it in the media. and when we learned more and more about bob, we found that there was this beautiful love story that had preceded all of the burlesque stories of bob dressing as a woman, that he had met this beautiful girl from sort of the other side of the coin from himself, that he had met somebody who was this lovely person who loved him for him, and we thought, wouldn't it be
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interesting to go back and tell the love story of how that developed? and then as we got deeper and deeper into it, we started to do our own investigation and we discovered a lot more than we had originally known. >> all right. so you know, i have to smile when you say love story because i first became familiar with the case and i was investigating it as a homicide. but i mean, two different approaches. but look, you bring out a collage of experiences. you've got a guy who apparently is a guy who loved his wife but who i and many believed is responsible for her disappearance. a guy whose best friend is shot and killed right before my office is going to speak with her. and a guy who chops another guy apart in galveston, texas. do you think he's crazy, andrew? >> you know, i try not to label him because it really took us all of six episodes to be able to explain to the audience enough for them to be able to make their own decisions. he's complicated. >> you know, it's a question of
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not what do i say but how do i say it. i never intentionally, purposefully lied. i made mistakes. i did not tell the whole truth. nobody tells the whole truth. >> the guy lies for a living and he lies very well. let's talk about the fact that he lied about me.he and his lawe of the reasons i got involved even after i left as d.a., they say the reason he chopped up a body is because i was chasing him and he had to chop the body up. i mean, how did that -- how did you get the lawyers to admit it? >> well, if you watch in episode 4, there's really a quite elaborate discussion between the lawyers of how they strategized. and one of the lawyers says, well, we kind of created this mythical creature in jeanine pirro, we knew that it would be persuasive to the jury if we could say that bob had run to galveston because he was running away from the investigation of
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this careerist driven d.a., who was really just trying to use this to further her own ambitions. but that really was something that we sort of trumped up for the jury. and it played really well, and they ate that up, says the lawyer. >> were you surprised, marc? i mean, we all believe in truth and justice. but when you actually hear defense attorneys say you know, what let's blame it on the d.a., i mean, you know, the devil made me do it, never heard i the d.a. made this guy chop up a body. i mean, were you disappointed in the system? >> no. i think you that made a big noise back there, and the question is not whether back in 2000 bob was running away from you because you were all over the newspapers, which we know you were not. it's the question of what was he rung away from? was he running away from you because you were investigating the disappearance of his wife? >> did he kill his wife? >> well, you know, i think people are going to come to their own conclusions about this. >> come on, guys. all right. let me ask you, why did you do this? in the end what were you hoping to accomplish? start with you, andrew.
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>> we like to find truth. you know -- >> did you find truth? >> i think we did. >> coming up, some final thoughts on the twisted saga of robert durst. ♪
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on march 14th, the day before the dramatic conclusion of hbo's "the jinx," the fbi arrested 71-year-old robert durst at this marriott hotel in new orleans. he was now wanted in california for the murder of his friend, susan berman. during the riveting finality of "the jinx," his printing was
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identical to the cadaver note. in a trip to the bathroom with his microphone still recording, durst whispers -- >> many viewers, including myself believed durst admitted to confessing his wife kathleen, his neighbor, and best friend. it was a moment i'll never forget. i remember my blood ran cold. what was your reaction to the confession? to the admission? >> when it actually came out of his mouth, i guess i was a little shocked to hear him say it. >> he got caught and he knew it. he knew it in that moment. >> i think he did it, because he got away with it.
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but i have to let everybody know just how smart i am. he contacted them and said, i think it would be good if we did an interview. >> he loves that, i'm the top dog. >> he was laughing. >> well, he's not laughing now. >> any guy who got away from murder the way he did in galveston, texas, and his money has allowed him to, i believe, whether with the nypd or use of the money, it has given him the ability to think he can get away with anything, and he pretty much has. now we have robert durst under arrest again in new orleans. in the arrest process, they find another illegal gun. and drugs. but here's the bottom line. there's a tug-of-war. l.a. wants them. l.a. has been preparing for about a year and a half to try this case. i wish them the best. but the big one is the federal gun case. >> i wanted him to spend the
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rest of his life in jail. i don't care where it is. i don't care if it's in new orleans, i don't care if it's federally or in los angeles. i just want the guy to die in prison. i think society is safer with him in prison. especially people who become enemies of his. >> including my boss. >> i'm on his list. >> and including jeanine. >> what's interesting, when i watched "the jinx," what durst said was, in 2001, he said, i never heard this name, jeannie pirro, he said everything changed. that was a real signal that he knew that although there was roberta and all the -- you know, all the other girlfriends, that i had the power, that i was significant in terms of his downfall. that i had the ability to go to a grand jury. roberta was talking for 18 years and nobody was listening. at the time i got it, i was
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listening. >> you were patient. but you also had a reputation as the office did of being relentless. >> let me tell you, i'm going to be in those courtrooms until the day that man goes to prison. today robert durst sits in a jail cell in new orleans. reports are that his health is failing, that he has cancer, and water on the brain. but i hope he lives long enough to stand trial in los angeles for the murder of his friend, susan berman. and recently, kathleen's family filed a wrongful death civil suit against him. for over 15 years, i've fought for justice for kathleen's disappearance. and there is no doubt in my mind that he's responsible for her death, along with susan berman. and i firmly believe morris's death was no accident. i believe durst is a serial killer. and my pursuit of this monster
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hi, i'm greg gut feld. here's what's coming up. why our republican candidates fighting each other and not taking on hillary? seriously, doesn't anyone want to win this thing? then, jeb bush launches a new slogan. jeb can fix it. will he campaign with a tool belt? it's what i wear in bed. plus, joann, humanitarian mission. if you miss this session, you will burn in everlasting heck. let's get started. i'm late for my electrolysis. >> you wonder how could it possibly get any worse. >> it's despicable. >> it's disgusting to

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