tv Americas Newsroom With Bill Hemmer and Martha Mac Callum FOX News November 10, 2015 6:00am-8:01am PST
time to have it. >> okay. it's time for the tea. >> yep. >> all right stay tuned after the show show. you're going to talk to us a little bit more. larry gatlin, come on in. >> all right, everybody. bill: it's debate day. it's 8:00 in the moaning in mill whamilwaukee -- in the morning n milwaukee. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to america's newsroom. where will we be tomorrow? martha: you have fox business network and the "wall street journal" giving 12 candidate the chance to share their vague fore their vision for this country. you have debate number one.
bill: then the frontrunners dr. ben carson and donald trump being on the offensive. they could be coming face to face tonight. >> i could spend between now and the elect on the defensive about something somebody is accusing me of because i have written a lot of books and given a lot of speeches, or we could talk about thing that are important. >> when you say you are path long cal about something usually you associate it with something like liar. he actually wrote that word himself in his book. knee, good day to you. we are going start with this. who has the most at stake heading into tonight.
reporter: you can make the argument ... -- bill: we are told this is about jobs, so you have got the economy, right? we have to keep if you good standing, okay? so if you consider jobs, the economy, international issues, and number three can be broad. are the jobs exclusively about these three areas? reporter: i won't give everything away. what fox has been able to do very well is find these issues aren't just financial issues, they are mainstream topical
issue. that's why i do a show on fog news called "your world." these headlines are intertwined. what we are getting back to us our reason for existence at the fox business network. it's all about green, who is wasting it, who is taking advantage of it, what they are going to do. and that covers a brought panoply how you market yourself as a candidate and how you market your views once you are in that office. that's essentially my way of saying all of the above. bill: we just heard from carson. is he in the cross-hairs?
is this something you will bring up or someone else will come up. reporter: you know issues come up you didn't plan on. anyone running for the highest office in the land should expect anything. that doesn't mean you go out of the gate asking obnoxious questions in obnoxious ways. i want to be invisible. and you know me, i'm a fairly big guy and to be invisible would be almost impossible. if we cannot make it about ourselves, we'll go a long way toward getting these answers. as someone who moves up in the poll, w we covered these
campaigns. everything is a fair and open issue. i want to make sure that we are covering it fairly and professionally and cleanly. that's what matters. our tone does matter. we as mad curator don't matter. no one should remember a moderator he. they should remember the question a moderator ask. some of the when debates have been scored by lines candidate were given in a response. no one remembers the guy who asked ronald reagan if he was too old to be president. but we remember his famous answer that he won't hold his opponent youth and inexperience against him. no one remembers the question to john kennedy what a little-known senator was doing running for
president of the united states. it's the answers that matter. not the question the that precede it. martha: marco rubio also one to watch. he will be going on defense to some extent in this debate. he's taken some heat for a hype he used a party issue card for personal expenses as a state lawmaker. reporter: the overwhelming majority of those expenses on that card were for political uses. this is an issue we dealt with back in 2010 when charlie crist tried to raise it. bill: chris christie and mike huckabee won't be on the prime time stage.
they will be in debate number one. he has seen a spike in donations since the announcement was made. >> people are angry i was he can excluded from the maintain and they have been sending dough nation online saying we don't feel this is fair to you. i never thought this would be easy. and i'm going to fight hard because i want to be president. martha: the "wall street journal" and fox business news will kick off at 7:00 p.m. eastern. you have got the prime time one. you do not want to miss this. i think this will be a
compelling debate doing this questioning. mike huckabee is also in the early debate and they want to get themselves back on the map. they are going to try to define themselves very clearly. bill: fox business tonight, don't miss it. martha: a texas appeals court upholding the federal judge's injunction blocking the president's attempt to halt deportation of 5 million illegal immigrant by executive order. what does this impact most? reporter: undocumented parent who gave birth to american children who would be able to stay here and work here through an obama administration program called deferred action for
immigrant parents. 26 states challenging the youth on this evident would probably win if this case went to trial. the republican chairman of the house judiciary committee is applauding the ruling like this. the president himself stated over 20 times he does not have the authority to change immigration law on his own, yet he did so anyway. south such lawlessness must be stopped so that we preserve the separation of powers in the constitution. martha: later in the hour we'll speak live to the texas governor greg abbott who has been behind this action all along. >> a suspected criminal on the run using a big suv as a
potential weapon. man oh man. the dramatic video of that chase. that is a camera on the body of that cop. >> plus a security scare, armed officers evacuating an entire planeful of passengers about to take off. billbill: they are going to ture light on in milwaukee. within when they do there will there be game-changing moment like this one? >> this is not a cage match. if you look at the questions, donald trump are you a comicbook candidate. marco rubio, why don't you
resign. jeb bush, why are your numbers falling? why notsh talk about theoi substantive issues. >> leadership means you have got to be all in. i know how to do this face was privileged in serve in florida for 8 years. people were lifted out of poverty. children started to learn. as president of the united states, i pledge to you that i will solve problems. announcer: right to rise usa is responsible for the content of this message.
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officers got on board and evacuated the plane. others trying to land at miami had to be diverted. bill: what will we see from this new frontrunners. dr. ben carson and donald trump. what about the senators who have been surging, senator ted cruz and marco rubio? sean is here from the republican national committee. i know you are jacked up like we are. there is theater and expectations that none of us can predict. did the last debate affect how you or anyone else approaches this debate tonight? >> i heard neil talking earlier.
and this is how a debate is suppose to be handled. i think the way that fox approaches these debates makes us here at rnc sleep soundly. this will be a top-notch production about substantive issues, and that's what we have been looking. bill: the campaigns got together and it's difficult to get them to agree on everything. but they had opening statements, and closing statements and room temperature. there will be no opening statements tonight. why is that important to a candidate? >> most important to a candidate, they want an opportunity to introduce themselves and express why they want to be president. a lot of times you start off with a gotcha question or silly question. what happens is that doesn't give the chance for these
candidates to introduce themselves to the american people, to voters to tell them why they want to be montana and sometimes just a little bit of who they are because with so many folks running there won't be the opportunity to distinguish themselves. bill: i think -- >> they are also getting 90 seconds to pans questions, which is a win for the candidate. it gives them an opportunity to give a substantive answer to a tough question. bill: the rebuttal is longer as well, am i right? >> yes. billbill we.bill: in debate numh chris christie and mike huckabee dropping that slot, what do you
think the effect is for them tonight and beyond? >> that's a good question. you have seen carly fiorina take advantage of the opportunity to get out there and express themselves. this an opportunity to put yourself in front of millions of americans and express why you want to be president. every opportunity is one that can be won or lost. it's up to the candidate to decide how to best use it and express themselves and let the voters decide whether they are moving up or down in the polls. bill: you as you represent the party, are you satisfied with what transpired the last 11 days? have you put that behind you in order to focus on the campaigns and the issues and say this is what really matters? >> absolutely. what we saw was the candidate want to be more involved in the format and answers to key
questions what they were showing up to and how they answer. fox has done a if he phenomenal job bending over backward to make sure the candidate had everything they needed. and i think a lot of what the candidate wanted was not to be surprised when they showed up to the debate in terms of what they could expect. those are very fair things to have. bill: i appreciate the plug and the colleagues at fox business. but for the viewers and voters, this is what matters, to see the men and women on the stage and see how they handle this. sean spicer, thank you from the rnc, we await later tonight. martha: benjamin netanyahu on the violence in israel while he
had the president's ear. >> we'll never give on hope for peace. martha: the two leaders on the need for peace. but the big issue between them remains the iran nuclear deal that cast a long shadow on the rip. bill: how and why an iconic show could come to an end for good. >> i'm glad i get to see it again. i wish more kid could get that experience. >> it's for the better if they are going do enrichment things. yeah, i'm afraid so. it's okay. this is what we've been planning for. knowing our clients personally is why edward jones is the big company that doesn't act that way. only glucerna has carbsteady, diabetes, steady is exciting.
israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu trying to turn over a new leaf in their relationship as the iran deal hovers. yesterday they sat down for the first time season that agreement. the. he harshly criticized the iran deal. >> it will be left to history to see if iran will modernize and reform under this clique. i have my doubts. i hope i'm wrong but $suspect i'll be -- but suspect i'll be proved right. martha: ambassador bolton, welcome. the. he is in the position of hoping.
>> one of the he accepting elements was what comes next with respect to the nuclear weapon program. he want to focus on uncovering iranian vie layings and making them known. but i think it's a very difficult position to be in because fir you have to detect the violations and second you have to convince others the relations occurred. then you need to try and get the sangs put back in place. i think the political reality is it's going to be difficult to do. i think that's part his strategy. the long-term prospect hasn't changed a bit. the fundamental disagreement over this iran deal remains.
martha: as you say, you can hope verify kaig will be pursued. that's pretty much where we are -- you can hope verification will be pursued. that's pretty much where we are right now. what do you see in terms of where iran will be by the end of the obama term? >> in the new term they will cooperate with the iae so they won't find evidence of a nuclear program and get the sangs removed before the deal contemplates. then after that i think you will see even more visible, objectionable iranian conduct. i'm surprised already they have been watching this open violation of early security council violations.
when you combine it with russian adventureism here and elsewhere. what we have overall in the middle east is continuing deterioration of america's influence and the continuing influence of chaos and conflict. >> the next president is going to have their work cut out for them because there has been a lot of leeway and learning taken. >> it's not just iran. the nuclear deal and negotiations leading in the up to the deal has prompted the saudis and the turks to move ahead on their own nuclear weapons program. now they are moving to do it indigenously as are these other countries. the long-term consequences of this deal for israel and the arab friend of the yout -- of te united states remain negative. giving the impression they put
their disagreement of the iran deal behind them, opponent of the deal want to put public consciousness of the deal behind them as well. all the while iran moves steadily toward a deliverable nuclear weapons capability. martha: all right. thank you very much. bill: a texas -- appeals court rules against the obama immigration plan. martha: what an unbelievable story this has turned out to be this week. those are the protests at a major american university that forced the ouster of the president of that university. but now some of the protesters may have prevented a journalist
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bill report chancellor and president of the university of missouri are gone after protested of alleged racism at the school. football players said they wouldn't play until he was out. it stems from the michael brown case that also took place in missouri. reporter: even those mantra "hands up, don't shoot" proved to be a false narrative, even after the announcement of the
resignation, student celebrated. the student body president who is black said racial slurred were aimed at him. following months of protests and a high-profile hunger student by a graduate student, they are building a task force to improve the situation on campus. >> this an investment i'm making in my life. >> i think it' a great thing our university has made a statement. but it's just a step. this is only the beginning. reporter: the dramatic step is when missouri football players announced they would not play in
the upcoming game against byu. they say they were boycotting to save the life of the student on the hunger strike. you are talking about a million dollars in lost revenues just because of the contract they enter into with the opposing team if they forfeit the game. television revenue. the university gets $56 million a year just to be seen on the sports network. football is a substantial part of their budget. it took a long time to total the ripple of paraphernalia. a step got social media buzzing and got the social networks
buzzing. >> the actions i have the legal authority to take by president. the same actions taken by democratic and relationship can presidents before me will help make our immigration system more fair and just. martha: a texas appeals court rejects the president's plan that blocks the deportation of immigrants. the decision blocks this plan. the governor of texas, greg abbott. thank you for being with us. as i understand it the president has the right to defer prosecution of individuals in this country when he sees fit,
or when the justice department sees fit. they used that to say because we can do that, we are deciding to do that for these five million illegal immigrants. the judge said no, that's not so, correct? >> that's correct. what happens in deferred prosecution. you have isolated cases where the d.o.j. or prosecutors decide we are not going to prosecute this particular case. what the president did was defer millions of people and affirmatively gave benefits. because of the giving of benefits it was something that had to go through the administrative process and that's where the president's plan failed. you showed that clip where the president said he was taking unilateral action. before he said that, on 22 other overcation before that, he said
he didn't have the authority to do that then he turned around and did it. barack obama was one of our best witnesses during this case. martha: the department of justice says this program would have made things work more smoothly and aloud them, they say, to focus on the worst of the worst and not as they say in their own words, it would help them with the remoflt worst offenders, not people who are here raising american children. that was their argument. what do you think? >> the federal coast appeals shot that down easily saying the department of justice and homeland security still have the slat tude to work on these issues case by case. but what they did say is that the president does not have the unilateral authority to grant amnesty to millions of people. that's the big issue here. do we have a rule of law in the
or do we not. what this federal coast appeal said the rule of law applies even to the president of the united states of america. martha: this is a story that aired on special report about who is going to take over on the border patrol in this country. apparently there is a short list of people who may be up for that job. one of them else heather fong who is the former police chief in san francisco and they raise questions about wet sleer should be considered based on statements like this. >> we do not work on enforcing immigration laws. we do not cooperate with i.c.e. when they go out for enforcement of immigration violations of the law. martha: as a bored state governor do you have any thoughts on this? >> we deal with challenges with
people coming across the border every day. if that person is chosen you will see a resnroalt this country. just two weeks ago i issued an order to the sheriffs in texas, they have to honor detainers. the american people are not going to tolerate it anymore. bill: markets opened 10 minutes ago. apple is leaning lower today over caution about the fed and interest rates next month. the dow closed down 179 points yesterday. hang on. are gitmo's days numbered? the pentagon set to announce what to do with the remaining detainees there. the fight on the hill to keep the prison open, where will they
go if anywhere? >> stop! stop! martha: this is what we get from police body cams. look at this guy barreling towards this police officer. unbelievable. you will be surprised to hear who was behind the wheel when we come back. er? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? heart healthy california walnuts. great tasting, heart healthy california walnuts. so simple. get the recipes at walnuts.org.
martha: a woman in oklahoma was apparently willing to do just about anything to escape in the law. watch. >> stop! put your hands on top of your head. martha: police near tulsa release the body cam video from the police perspective. he managed to get a couple shots off before dodging the truck. at the last second he got himself out of the way.
she hit the police cruiser. thank goodness the officer wasn't hurt. the police officer released the video of the moments she was arrested. she was chief takenned through the car's sunroof. she faces a list of charge including assault with a deadly weapon which in this case was her car. bill: it's all because of a body camera that we can see this. it appears the door of the vehicle may have prevented the for from being injured. all in a days work and a tough, tough day. the president's plan to close gitmo may come in the form of an executive order. the pentagon considering many sites in the u.s. to house the detainees.
my next guest wants to stop all that. kelly ayotte sits on the house armed services committee. what will you do in congress starting today at least on the senate side? >> there has long been a prohibition from transferring these terrorist chief takenees to the united states of america. i worked every year i have been in the senate to include that in the defense authorization that will be come together floor i suspect today in the senate. also in the military constructions bill. there are provisions that prevent using taxpayer dollars to construct or maintain facilities that house chief takenees from gitmo. they are terrorist recruiters, some of them bodyguard to usama
bin laden. these are not individuals we transfer to america. bill: can an executive order trump everything you just said, senator? >> no, it will not. the president if he takes this action would in my view right now the current testifies authorization prohibits it until the end of the year. the military appropriations bill, it will violate the law. even when the democrats were involved. there were provisions that prohibited the transfer of these individual to the united states of america. i believe he would be violating the law. >> you can still do it, right? then it goes to a legal fight. then you have to find a friendly judge and you lose.
>> if he does this, this will be'very heavily -- this will be fought very heavily. i expect this will be fought by members of congress who understand he's violating the law. we do not need to bring terrorists to the united states of america. bill: ways your expectation about the politics? how would the american people react? take colorado, for example. colorado, south of denver. that seems to be a place a lot of people would favor. you could have 59 if not more who were sent there. this is a prison that hold ted a kazinsky.
>> why would we want this to happen in america where it becomes a recruiting pool and target for terrorists. senator gardner opposes sending these individual to colorado. here you have a situation where you have the president who is going to violate the law, the will of the congress, and also your average american i think understands. guantanamo is a top-rank detention facility. they are being held for their involvement in terrorism. they are being held because they have taken up arms against our country on our interests. that's different than your average criminal. bill: navy captain jeff davis. he is quoted saying they have been working closely with members of congress to work out a deal. if that's true, ways your expectation from the pentagon once we know a bit more perhaps within the week?
>> my expectation is i don't know who they are working with in the congress, but i don't think there will be a deal. i think members of congress are spoken clearly in the defense authorization we passed on a strong bipartisan vote in the arms services committee i serve on and the military appropriations bill, we said we don't want the money spent to modify facility to transfer them to the united states of america. this is something the president made a campaign promise on. it was a misguided promise. and my season is there is not support for this in the senate or with the american people. bill: thank you for coming on today. martha: a mysterious light in the sky visible for hundreds of miles. perhaps the u.s.o. or asteroid maybe? or was it something else.
bill: jeb bush went after marco rubio in the last debate. what does the florida governor have to do tonight to get it right? >> he had three bad debates. one more and he's not going to drop out of the race but he will be dead man walking. jeb bush: leadership means you've got to be all in. it's not about yappin'. it's not about talking. it's about doing. i know how to do this because i was privileged to serve in florida for eight years. and we turned the systems upside down that weren't working. 1.3 million new jobs were created.
the sky that appeared in california has people asking questions. the navy said they carried out a missile test. william, why did they launch saturday night when everybody could see that. reporter: that's a great question. what message was the navy trying to send. they did it literally at dinner hour when everyone on the west coast, even nevada and part of arizona were able to see this launch. it made 911 operators crazy because everyone thought this was a u.f.o. in san francisco to mexico kit was captured on thousands of cell phones. >> as it moves the screen got bright and expand in a trial behind. reporter: the missile took off
in california and head toward hawaii, and a wedding party in palm springs do se -- could see. the u.s. has 14 times of these subject marines. the two launches were part of a test for a shakedown to test the readiness of the nuclear submarines. the sub carries 24 try don't missiles. a navy spokesman said it did not announce future launches or why it didn't tell us, we don't exactly know. but there is no more test for a while from the u.s.s. kentucky. they do these tests annually off the west coast and east coast. off florida. it may release pictures later on. but again the question why
middle of the night, or evening saturday so everyone can see it, maybe telling our adversaries something about our capability. martha: thanks a lot. bill: the stain is set for the cone tenders. we are live ahead of tonight's debate. team fox congress and what you need to know. martha: the crash of a russian jet sparking airport concerns at home that are very real. the house homeland security chairman is very interested in this right now. he will be here coming right up.
is going to be, folks. it's hosted by fox business network. hour one happens at 7:00, and these are the four gentlemen who will be on the stage. you can see them here. and then at 9 p.m. eastern the other eight will take the stage to face off against each other and to make their mark in an important evening for them. welcome, everybody, to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill: and i'm bill hemmer, good morning. stakes are high for all the candidates. one misstep, and you're the headline. and sometimes not in the best way. experts believe jeb bush needs a good night. they say his campaign needs a shot in the arm to stay alive. team fox coverage starting a new hour here, john roberts is live in milwaukee, steve hayes live in d.c., but we begin with john there on the ground. john, you've talked with a lot of the campaigns, a lot of the candidates. what do we expect to hear tonight? >> reporter: well, we're expecting, first of all be, that we're not going to forget chris
christie's name this morning like i did yesterday. here's what we can expect from the debate itself, the fox business network promising a substantive examination of policies and prescriptions, comparing and contrasting the candidates with none of the gotcha questions really that defined the last debate in boulder a couple of weeks ago. however, that has not stopped the candidates from going after each other. at a massive rally last night in springfield, illinois, donald trump really laid into ben carson's defense of his violent childhood. will be to this -- listen to this. >> you can say anything about anybody, and the poll numbers go up. you stab somebody, and the newspapers say you didn't do it! and you said, yes, i did, i did it! this is the only election in history where you're better off if you stab somebody -- [laughter] what are we coming to? >> reporter: marco rubio today launched a preemptive strike against any attacks that might come tonight from jeb bush, using the governor's own words against him.
>> i'm a huge marco fan. he's probably the most articulate conservative on the scene today. he'll be a good president. >> reporter: bush supporters are vowing to go after rubio hard, though that did not work out so well in the last debate when you'll remember jeb bush got body slammed when he tried to take on might be yee's -- marco rubio's attendance record. >> were you just saying, oh, my god -- >> well, i didn't view it that way. we addressed it and tried to focus on what really matters. these things are going to happen in the debate, but what really matters is not some quip that somebody comes up with, what's going to matter is who's got the best idea to move this country forward. >> reporter: rubio needs another strong night tonight, as does carly carly fiorina who's n slipping in the polls though she dismissed an observation after last debate that she needs to
become, quote, a media darling again. >> honestly, i don't think that's what voters are looking for. if i have a moment where the media claims i'm their darling, great. but i think, actually, what voters are looking for, the reason voters were frustrated by that last debate is because there were lots of media darling moments, but there weren't enough substantive moments. >> reporter: really, most of the candidates are just looking to hold their positions right now. their attention span with voters. but it really is a big night for jeb bush because he's got to make an impact. if he does not after three lackluster debates really bring it tonight, he may be, as charles krauthammer put it last night, quote, dead man walking. bill: they always bring drama, and we expect this to be the same. martha: you're hearing a lot of the political watchers thinking tonight may be do or die for jeb bush. steve hayes is a fox news contributor, welcome. good to have you here this morning.
>> morning, martha. martha: let's talk about jeb bush. obviously, he's had some difficult performances out there. the word is that they're going to continue this m.o. of going after marco rubio and trying to tear him down. is that, is that a way to go here, do you think? >> well, i think it depends entirely how hay decide to do this. -- they decide to do this. there's a big new york times story about the superpac aligned with jeb bush potentially spending $20 million to wound marco rubio in a way that realize as very vindictive, you know? they said that many of jeb's supporters and staffers saw rubio's decision to get into the race as a judas moment and that jeb bush may go after marco for that reason. if he's going after him because of some sense of personal anger, that's not a good reason to do it. now, if there's an issue contrast, that's altogether different. i would expect to see jeb bush folks on the latter tonight in the -- focus on the latter tonight in the debate. martha: yeah.
we hear the candidates want it to be about substance versus, you know, the moments that sort of get people a lot of coverage. but, you know, it seems to me one thing that's missing, and perhaps it's missing from what jeb bush has done and maybe we'll see it from him or anybody tonight, is the ability to articulate here's what my vision is and to make that vision really stand out and grab people in their seats and say, oh, i get what you want to do, and i'm with you. >> yeah. let's be clear, the candidates love the moments too. they say they want it to be focused on substance because otherwise they're saying they want it to be focused on fluff or something else, but they love the moments, and they're plotting behind the scenes to try to create additional moments whether they're preplanned one-liners or attack lines or, as you say, laying out their vision. i think the challenge for jeb bush is that, you know, his campaign slogan of late has been jeb can fix it. and i think he's making that argument at a time when many republican primary voters are
saying we don't want somebody necessarily who can fix it, we want somebody who can blow it up, depending on what the "it" is. that's a challenging argument for jeb to make if he wants currency going farmed. he's going to have -- going forward. he's going to have to tell people exactly what he means. martha: that's an interesting point. in the blowing it up category is clearly, you know, donald trump who's, like, the way we do things similarly doesn't work -- simply doesn't work. trump kind of hangs back a little bit. we just watched him in springfield, missouri. when he's out with the crowds, he does not hang out. he's gangbusters, slashing and burning. but when he gets up there, he kind of hangs back, so i wonder if maybe we're not going to hear a lot of barbs out there for ben carson. >> this is a debate that doesn't set up very well for don trump. he excels when he can talk in broad strokes, when he can make blanket condemnations of
washington, the mexican government, of his rivals on the stage. but this is a more serious debate that certainly by all accounts will focus more on substance, and the candidates will be given the opportunity to fill 90 seconds with their answers to questions from the moderators and 60 seconds for rejoinders from other candidates. that's an area that cries out for additional substance from the candidates. donald trump is not a details guy. he will admit that himself. martha: yeah. so the difficulty perhaps for some people to fill 90 seconds with, you know, real policy and what they would do about something, there was a great piece by dan henninger the other day, and he accused both jeb bush and donald trump and carson of being really short on substance. so tonight they're going to have to say, you know, i've got a learning curve that has gone through this process, and here's what i can tell you now that maybe i didn't tell you at the beginning of it. >> right, exactly. and i think this is one of the reasons that sets up for people who do know the issues pretty well.
i would include jeb bush in that category. this is somebody who's been interested in policy for a long time. he likes to portray himself as a wonk. marco rubio also fits that bill. somebody like rand paul knows these issues pretty well, can talk about them at some length. this gives them a little more time to make their case without the risk of being interrupted or having to finish up before they're done actually laying out their agenda. martha: and you've got christie and huckabee who are, obviously, would rather be on the big stage, but they're going to have a little more time to lay theirs out, so we'll see if it can make a difference. steve, thank you very much. we'll see you later tonight. bill: watch the debate on our sister network, fox business. first debate starts at 7:00 eastern. four candidates, one hour. second debate starts 9:00 eastern, eight candidates, two hours x. if you're not sure where to find fox business on your the, visit foxbusiness.com/channelfinder. i think it's going to stream online too, so you've got a ton of options to go ahead and find
this debate later tonight. i love these days. i always circle it on the calendar. martha: curl up on the couch and. watch the whole thing and, you know, fun conversation with family and friends who are sitting around doing it as well. we'll be watching every minute, and we'll have a lot for you tomorrow morning as well. another big issue we are talking about is security at our airports in this country. who is providing it? are they properly screened, these individuals? intelligence suggests that there was a bomb aboard that plane that took that russian jet down and took all of those lives with it. so what are we doing to make sure that can't happen here? bill: then a possible break in the investigation in the shooting of a judge in texas. what happened here? who police are talking to now, in a moment. martha: and this has got everybody talking, upheaval at the university of missouri. students succeed in ousting the prime minister of the united
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unrelated charges and is now being questioned. the judge still in the hospital with non-life threatening injuries. ♪ ♪ martha: airport security getting a much closer scrutiny after the crash of the russian jet in egypt. so the possibility that an airport insider may have been the person who placed the bomb on that plane has sparked a lot of questions about how secure our airports are at home and background checks for the people who work on all of these areas that are connected to our airports. texas congressman michael mccall is chairman of the house homeland security committee and has a big responsibility to be on top of this, and we welcome you, chairman. good to see you here, as always. welcome back. >> morning, martha. martha: good morning to you. when you look at this, you ask yourself questions about what may have happened, how in this person may have gotten access to the plane. and, you know, the scary answer might be that it's actually pretty easy. >> well, i think that's our
concern is that you can have the best vetting procedures, screening procedures, but if you have an inside job -- which seems to be the case here -- if there's corruption or bribery or radicalization from within to put a piece of lug am on an airplane, you know, it's very difficult to stop that. i think sharm el-sheikh didn't have the best security procedures in place compared to ours in the united states, but if you have this insider threat, again, hard to stop that. i talked on fox news sunday about the idea, you know, puerto rico, we've had a lot of prosecutions related to drugs and weapons coming in these inbound flights from puerto rico that involve in this very issue, the insider corruption threat. but i will tell you i've met with the secretary of homeland security, admiral neffenger who heads up tsa. the last points of departure which would be the nonstop flights inbound to the united states, our screening and vetting is going to get beefed
up at all these airports. in addition, though, the vetting of the employees themselves to help protect against this insider threat. martha: yeah. i mean, a lot of times that's where the concern is. a plane that's in another airport from outside of this country coming into the country with lots of americans onboard. you know, do you think that we're going to see, you know -- how good is the surveillance, is my question. can these airport workers just sort of freely walk in all of these areas? do they have to show what they've got in their bags, show what they've got in their hands before they get close to these airplanes or the baggage? how tough is it out there, and what's it like here? >> well, there are thousands of airport workers and, no, they don't go through the screening that you and i go through at the airport. i passed a bill out of my committee to sort of upgrade the standards in terms of vetting these employees, you know, as well. i think and particularly if you're looking at overseas flights coming in, that's a real high-risk danger. this is a major game changer
with respect to isis entering a new chapter. we examined this from al-qaeda -- expected this from al-qaeda in thearabian peninsula, targeting aviation. but now isis has demonstrated that they, if this is found to be true which i believe it is, have the capability now to hit aircraft with bombs. this is going beyond the caliphate. these are external operations that could be pointed right at the united states of america. martha: yeah. you think of people like al-asiri, the bomb maker, who came up with inventive technology, and it's possible something could have been put in that bag and nobody knew it was there. how do you think we're doing in terms of nailing down and figuring out if this is a human being who was involved in this or whether or not somebody got it through without even needing anybody to help them? >> well, there's an active investigation. i know the fbi has yet to be a part of this. i hope they are to protect the integrity of this investigation. but it's very serious, and i think it's one of the
vulnerabilities out there that, again, if you have the best screening, that doesn't stop in this insider threat. and so i think you're going to see us working with other countries as well in addition to the last point of departure airports, other airports with the host countries to help protect us against this insider threat that could put a bomb on an airplane. i suspect that what happened in this case -- again, an insider with a piece of luggage with a bomb onboard. and the fact that isis is now in this game makes them the most dangerous terrorist organization now in the world. martha: absolutely. i mean, we've heard about the sort of internal conflicts and competition between these groups and clearly isis, if this is the case that they put it on there, they want to prove that they are in those echelons of being able to pull this off, and my guess is they're probably not going to stop there. do you believe that? >> look, they've declared war on russia.
russia set foot in syria. russia has their own homeland security issues, if you will, to deal with now, and i think this was a retaliation against russia for their presence in the region. but it also demonstrates they have the capability, if proven true, to hit -- to down aircrafts with bombs. that concerns me a great deal because traditionally they've been focused on the caliphate, not external operations. this is a very significant departure from that mission and one that i think could impact our own home lambed as well. martha: i know you're very concerned about it, and it's a wake-up call. we've got a new head of tsa. he's got his work cut out for him, so we need to keep the pressure and the scrutiny in this area of safety. thank you so much, chairman mccall. good to have you with us, as always. >> thanks, martha. bill: carrying a stern voice for this on a couple of weeks. is the administration now trying to put coal plants out of business? why many lawmakers say new rules go too far.
martha: so a california homeowner got the scare of her life when a tree exploded outside her house. that doesn't happen every day, folks. authorities say lightning struck the 100-year-old tree, sent pieces flying in all directions creating giant logs that crashed through the windows of two homes and narrowly missed a woman who was sitting inside. >> she had just picked up a cup of coffee just inside this window here, turned and was headed to the back of the house when lightning hit, and the
piece of the tree came through the window. >> it was unbelievable. i never heard a sound like that before. martha: mother nature at work. the impact from that strike was so powerful that pieces of the tree were found across the street. bill: oh! the obama administration now facing strong opposition on the hill against the epa's new rules regulating coal plants. twenty-five states suing over the epa's plan. senator joe manchin, democrat out of west virginia, serves on the energy and natural resources committee, a strong, outspoken individual on this. senator, welcome back here. >> good to be with you, bill. bill: i can kind of see what he's trying to do. i'm not quite sure what you can do to stop it. what's your idea? >> here's the thing. the president basically says he's for an all-in energy policy. that means you use all the resources the good lord gave us and do it as clean as you possibly can, find new technology to make sure it works and make sure we meet those standards. well, they accepted the new source performance standard
which means any new coal-fired plant built there this day forward when the rule came out had to meet certain standards. they based those standards on power which is up in canada, bounder dam on carbon capture sequestration. and sas said they were capturing about 90%. lo and behold, they're only capturing 45%, the plant's not operational and won't be for another year. so we based our plans on what we should be doing in america to provide the energy that people depend upon on a failed operation in canada, and it'll be another year or two years before they even prove if it can be done or not. bill: well, boil it down just a bit simpler. is the administration in the year it has left trying to put coal out of business? yes or no, senator? >> yes, sir. it most certainly has done that, and it's doing it at a rapid rate. their own department of energy, bill, says we're going to need coal to energize the grid system for the next to years -- next 30
years as we transition. they're talking about all this new power coming on. ask this one question, whether it be the president or gina mccarthy or ernie moniz, if no kohl was produced for 90 days, what would this country look like, and how many millions of americans' lives would be in jeopardy? ask that question first. bill: here is the president two weeks ago and, again, this topic may come up again tonight in the debate -- >> well, it should. bill: this is what the president said two weeks ago. specific question to follow, watch. >> when i took office, we were hopelessly addicted to foreign oil to. we've cut our oil imports by half, we have doubled the production of clean energy, tripled the amount of wind power we generate, 20 times more solar energy is now created than when i came into office, and all that's generating good jobs that can't be outsourced. [applause] and helping the environment. bill: i imagine you take exception to some of that, but isn't this all part of the push on climate change?
and to get as much done in 14 months as possible, senator? >> bill, we talk about global climate change, and does that mean the entire globe, seven billion people all over the world? you know, wind currents and ocean currents don't stop and start in north america. but this is all self-inflicting. he talks about oil imports. yes, but then he basically bans the xl pipeline which gives us more security buying from the most favored nation rather than buying the same crude oil from venezuela. none of this makes sense to me. and i've said if you're going to have an energy policy, you should be be trading with your best friends and best partners and next of all developing the technology that'll help clean up the climate around the world. there'll be seven billion tons of coal being burnt somewhere else in the world, and i'll assure you, bill, it will not be with the cleanest technology. shouldn't we be exporting that technology to really clean up the environment? bill: i hear your point, senator, thank you for your time. and maybe it comes up tonight. >> i hope so, bill. bill: joe manchin, democrat from
west virginia. we'll talk soon. here's martha. martha: so big changes at one of america's most well known theme parks. why it could be over, one of the big, old to main attraction there. bill: also dr. ben carson and the mainstream media. is the coverage over him fair and balanced compared to the other? we ask, you decide this. watch. >> dr. caron's on the defensive about a number of tiny things in his life while mrs. clinton largely got a pass on the entire benghazi situation by the press. does that make any sense to anyone? big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy.
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milwaukee with more. jo, an enormous amount of traffic on social media like facebook. what are they talking about in anticipation of tonight? >> reporter: well, we want to talk to you about bush v. rubio as that battle continues tonight at our gop debate here in milwaukee. let's take a look at what the people on facebook are saying. let's take a look at jeb bush, for example. you see here that he's resonating across all age groups about 50/50 among men and women, but here is the problem for jeb bush. he saw a height of conversation over the summer, and then now if you look at this map, it's all yellow across the board. that means he's not necessarily doing terribly well in the conversation. now, let's switch over to marco rubio, the senator from florida, also about 50/50 men and women, but he skews a little bit older. martha, here is the main difference. marco rubio doing very well in early states right now in the conversation on facebook. nevada, parking lots of texas, florida -- parts of texas, florida all the way up to new hampshire where he's doing well
and and also in northwest iowa as well. so that's really where you see the difference when it comes to bush versus rubio, at least on facebook. martha: very interesting to see who's talking about them and, you know, to what extent. so what about the front runners? what about carson? what about trump? how do they look. >> >> reporter: yeah, you can't forget about those guys. let's take a look at donald trump right now. most of the people talking about him right now, women. 55%. then you also see it's more younger millennials who are talking about him and across the board the heat map is all the way across the country. a lot of people in california along these border states, arizona, new mexico, texas, down to florida talking about immigration in regards to donald trump. then we also want to show you ben carson, and also more of the conversation here among women voters, 55.5%. also though, this is a little different, ben carson skewing a little bit older, 45-54, and
then look at the support here for ben carson or the engagement, what people are talking about. very much not in the border states, in the midwest, in the deep south into florida, not so much in new hampshire and not so much in iowa. so as we look ahead to that early voting, martha, we'll have to see how this facebook conversation impacts what happens at the ballot box. martha: interesting. we'll be watching to see how much of that translates into actual support, but clearly there's buzz, and people are talking about them in those areas. and i'm sure they're going to be lighting up the board tonight. jo ling, thank you so much. >> reporter: thanks. bill: dr. ben carson is in the spotlight heading into tonight's debate. recent headlines have focused on his it's and allegations about -- his past and allegations about parts of his biography being contrived. bill o'reilly says the media is giving democratic front runner hillary clinton a pass on matters like benghazi. carson is calling the media's coverage biased and unprecedented. >> not like this.
i have never seen this before. and many other people who are politically experienced tell me they've never seen it before either. bill: does carson have a point? howard kurtz joins us from the site of the debate. good day to you. >> good day to you, bill. bill: you have said carson has been very effectively putting the media on trial. does carson have a point, howard? >> well, ben carson seems offended that reporters are digging into his background, unfortunately, that's standard procedure in a presidential campaign, even more so when you have a newcomer to the national stage who hasn't been through this kind of vetting process. but the reason he's been able to win this battle so far against the press in the court of public opinion, bill, is basically missteps, mistakes and just plain overreaching by news organizations that are going with stories that are half-baked, quarter-baked, inflammatory headlines, and they don't have the goods. bill: all right, so josh earnest was asked about this from the white house. give this a listen. >> it's not easy to run for
president. it shouldn't be. and people, when they make public comments, they're going to have their claims scrutinized. even if their claims about their own biography. and that's, that's part of the process. bill: i think what that comment goes to, howie, is whether or not the media's been fair. or whether or not the media's picking on people like carson. how do you analyze it? >> well, when politico runs a screaming headline that says ben carson fabricated west point scholarship, later has to take the headline down -- it turned out there was no fabrication -- that helps ben carson. when cnn interviews ten people who said they never heard of any incident involving stabbing when he was 14 or 15, it turns out there is some corroboration, even "the wall street journal" had a story about questioning an anecdote of carson in college taking a fake exam as part of a hoax by the students, other students have now confirmed that.
that helps ben carson. i understand why he feels like it's a witch hunt. i think journalists are trying to do their jobs, but there's a high bar here. you can't accuse a presidential candidate of making things up or exaggerating unless you have the goods. and so i think with the press being so unpopular, carson has been able to turn this around and make it about the media and create a lot of sympathy -- bill: listen, i think you wrote a great piece at foxnews.com. i just want to read one sentence you wrote, okay? the debate is not about the moderators. they will not be be grandstanding or expressing disdain for the candidates. end quote. so then what should viewers expect, howie? >> well, based on what neil cavuto and maria bartiromo have said, they're going to focus on the economy, and they don't want it to be about them. they're not looking for any artificial gotcha moments. now, the candidates, ted cruz, marco rubio, they've been very effective at flipping this, blaming the moderators. you and i have discussed how we
thought the cnbc debate was a debacle. but when moderators do their job, they pin candidates down, they follow up, they have the facts, and the next morning the debate is not about the moderators, it's about the people who want to be president of the united states. bill: thank you, howie. have a good time later tonight, okay? we will speak again soon. howard kurtz, milwaukee, wisconsin, there. he also writes: this might be the first debate where trump is not the center of attention. will he, meaning trump, try and change that? kind of goes to your point. martha: kind of quiet last time around. yeah. so we'll see if he chooses to make his mark tonight and if he can fill up 90 seconds talking about their feelings on policy. it's going to be interesting to watch tonight as well. so this story has everybody talking. students protesting at the university of missouri got what they wanted. they got the resignation of the school president in an unprecedented victory. but was it enough? >> you need to go!
students, can you tell him how -- >> you don't have a right to take our photo. martha: don't you love it? that's a communications professor telling the reporter that he has no right to cover this story. it's unbelievable. we're going to dig into this coming up. bill: also check it out, an athlete doping scandal in russia may go all the way to the kremlin in a story that may date back for years and a report pointing to putin. what is the truth behind the big red square? ♪ ♪
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a spokesperson for vladimir putin denies the government had any involvement. martha: all right. now this. changes coming to the university of missouri system amid escalating tensions and claims that the school ignored racist harassment on campus. mizzou's football team said they would not play this weekend unless the school's president, tim wolfe, stepped down. yesterday wolfe -- and also the chancellor -- announced that they would step down in a shocking moment yesterday afternoon. wolfe says that he hopes that that move will mend fences. >> we need to use my resignation, please, please use this resignation to heal, not to hate, and let's move forward together for a brighter tomorrow. martha: pretty incredible. leslie marshall, fox news contributor and huffington post blogger, david webb is host of the david webb show, good to
have you both here. >> good morning, martha. martha: when you dig boo this to try to -- into this to try to figure out how did we get here, the evidence listed is there were racial slurs hurled at the student body president and a swastika in feces on one wall, it seems the action of the stepping down of the president that's what underlying here is a bit thin, leslie. >> oh, i don't agree. those are two of many. there are women that have reported sexist events, there are other jewish students that have reported anti-semitism, at least two muslim students that have reported anti-islamic remarks. and when kids over the weekend were praying in a peaceful protest against the racism and the slurs not only uttered, but spray painted on campus, there were two trucks that went by with huge confederate flags. this has been, actually, percolating if you will for about the past year.
so, quite frankly, i'm not surprised at the anger from the students. and this is not just about race and not just coming from african-american students either. martha: well, it seems like the catalyst that pushed this over the top was the football team photo. suddenly, they said they weren't going to play which cost an estimated $1 million if they didn't play brigham young this weekend, and that seemed to make the president think differently about the move, and that's when he decided to step down, david. >> yeah. and, martha, if you look at the picture of the football players, they could have actually fielded a team. the football team is much larger than this, but this is the optic that got it started. you are right when you talk about what leads up to this story. it's more than just the protests and the alleged slurs. if all of that as alleged is absolutely true, it doesn't rise to the level of the resignation of a president and a chancellor. it doesn't. there are many other issues going on at university of missouri. we now see a president that's resigned, the board of curators
has accepted his resignation. but was the problem solved? that's the question. so i'm putting more questions than just talking points out here. was the problem solved by this? martha: yeah. i mean, it's a good question. you take a look at this situation, and it feels like one that should have been able to, you know, be talked about, to be worked out, to deal with students' grievances. but the fact that they were, you know, able to push out the administration is really unprecedented in this country, and it raises a lot of questions about what's going on, frankly, you know, on campuses across the country. i want to move now -- well, actually, i want to show you another piece of video, because this is another part of this same story. this is a mass media professor discouraging the media -- oddly enough -- from covering this story on campus. let's play that. >> back up. >> i'm walking forward. i'm walking forward. you're blocking me. you're pushing me.
>> i'm being pushed! >> you're not doing our job. >> it's our right to walk forward. martha: i don't know if we have it, but you can also see the professor in this, her name is melissa click, and at one point she's trying to push this camera guy off campus who, by the way, covered free speech issues starting in ferguson and has gotten a lot of coverage. she says you have to get out of here, and she calls for muscle to get this cameraman off our campus? leslie, really? >> absolutely terrible, disgusting. i mean, one of the things that i think everybody has seen at the university of missouri is that they did not need to resort to violence to get their point. they went with the power of the purse and economics as the cost of that football game not being played, i think, really led to the resignations of these two men. with this, the first amendment enables all press whether they're a part of the university or not to cover a story. now, you do have the right to put your hand up or to walk away and not want to be photographed,
but especially to have a professor and then to say i need muscle? this is, to me, unconscionable because these protesters could have been benefited and had their story put out there and actually had more help -- martha: it seemed they were protesting for -- a pointle] and to be seen. we would lo to have melissa click come on this program and defend her side of the story, because i'm sure she has one. david, final thought from you. >> she doesn't have a point. the fact is this professor -- and there are other problems with professors who teach five hours instead of nine hours, there are all sorts of problems that started with the leftists on campus. i interviewed the lieutenant governor of missouri last night. we talked about this. there are other issues there that have led up to this, and this professor, to go back to her, this is state property, state university. therefore, it's public. she has no right. she is part of the problem, and this is not about free speech for them, it's about pushing a
leftist agenda on campus. if you read the material, i urge everyone to do the background on the planned parenthood issue, do the background on the issues around ferguson they brought into it, do the issues on teachers not teaching full loads. several professors, many professors not teaching full loads, waste of taxpayer funds. being reviewed by the legislative -- martha: five hours a week of teaching. just to mention on the way out here because we're out of time, one of the student demands -- and this is just one of them, and there are several that i think people would find, you know, controversial -- is that tim wolfe had to stand up and acknowledge the white male privilege issue. >> there's your agenda. martha: he did not do that as part of his resignation, but that was one of the things that they said they were demanding. we're going to stay on top of this story. we hope that communications professor will come talk to us. thank you both very much for being here today. bill: that was demand number one. jenna lee comes up next on "happening now." good morning to you. jenna: hi there, bill.
all eyes on milwaukee as fox business hosts the fourth gop debate tonight. our guest, jerry seib, is one of the moderators. he's going to give us a preview. plus, a disturbing investigation into background checks for those who have access to our top scents as a nation. -- top secrets as a nation. how and why huge red flags are being ignored, top of the hour. bill: thank you, jenna. see you later, alligator. a wild reptile finally gets a home that's a bit more suited for him. martha: look at that guy. bill: slithers. straight talk. multiplied by 13,000 financial advisors it's how edward jones makes sense of investing.
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impact of holding whales in captivity. of course, sea world pushed back against the documentary, said it wasn't true, that it wasn't done accurately, but here you have it. so the new shows will feature orca whales in more natural settings, bill. bill: check that out. tomorrow is veterans day in america. as you know, a day we all pause to recognize the sacrifice and the service. well, meet a former navy pilot helping his brave brothers and sisters of the military 365 days a year. alicia acuna has that story live from denver. >> reporter: hi, bill. we're talking about longboards, and in this case it is art work, beautiful artwork, that you can ride. and you may ask yourself what do long skateboards and military honor have in common? turns out, quite a bit. >> and then next thing i knew i basically had a job on a handshake. >> reporter: tracy was just laid off when her husband's military service helped land her a job with mike maloney.
>> her husband was marine force recon, purple heart from iraq, and she runs our production. >> reporter: maloney is a former u.s. navy pilot. his company is dedicated to more than just the bottom line. >> koda stands for knights of the air, a moniker given to the earliest fighter pilots. >> reporter: many heavy with military and law enforcement symbolism. half of maloney's small work force are veterans. >> the impossible task in front of us, and we'll find a way to get that done. that, i cherish that about veterans, and that's why we actively seek out veterans. >> they're all very respectful of employers, of company time, of the people that they work with as well. >> reporter: army vet justin buckner started in january. >> working with other veterans, you know, they kind of understand some of the same stuff that you've been through.
>> reporter: the company also helps recovering heros. >> i love it, man. >> reporter: putting boards in their hands and under their feet. >> there you go. that's how the board is going to turn. >> reporter: maloney hopes disabled vets will benefit from the challenge of getting these boards down the road. >> there are so many parallels and anecdotes about the physical act of longboarding and how that relates to mental and emotional balance in one's life. >> exhilarating. that was really great. really, really great. great board, good time. yeah. >> reporter: and, bill, kota has experienced 240% revenue growth in the last year. bill: wow, good man. good story too. alicia, thank you. live in denver. martha. martha: so it's countdown time to tonight's republican debate on the fox business network. there they are getting all set up today, checking the lights, making sure everything's working. what's at stake? we'll speak to one of the moderators next. because, healthier doesn't happen all by itself.
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