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marco rubio. he was met by a feisty rand paul. carly fiorina was also strong. look at the back and forth between rubio and fiorina about military strength and dangers around the world. >> how is it conservative to add millions of dollars to military. >> there are radical jihadists crucifying christians and beheading people. i know that the world is a safer and better place when america is the strongest military tower in the world. >> i would not be talking to vladmir putin right now, although i have met him right now. not in a green room for a show but in a private meeting. we must have a no-fly zone in syria because russia cannot tell the united states of america where and when to fly our planes. we have the strongest military on the face of the planet and everyone has to know it. >> the debate revealed sharp differences over immigration, mostly what to do with the 11
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million illegal aliens in this country. ted cruzic pushed back with the notion being against illegal immigration is anti immigrant saying that's offensive. >> when the mainstream media covers immigration it doesn't often see it as an economic issue. the politics of it would be very, very different if a launch of lawyers and bankers were crossing the rio grand. >> to send them back, 500,000 a month it is just not possible. it is not i embracing american values. what we need to do is allow people to earn legal status, where they pay a fine, where they work, where they don't over an extended re they learn period of time they earn legal status. >> one of the sharpest exchanges came treen cruz and kasich. cruz said he would let big banks fail. kasich is just another politician that would bail them out for bad behavior. >> why would you then bail out rich wall street banks but not
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mom and pops -- >> i tell you what, i would not let the people who put their money in there all go down. >> you would bail them out? >> i would figure out how to separate those people who can afford it verses those people who are the hard-working folks who put the money in those institutions. >> that was not a good moment for kasich who was soundly booed. he was criticized for frequently interrupting colleagues. ben carson had a good debate and dealt effectively with the controversy that has been swirling over. >> thank you for asking me what i said in the 10th grade. i have no problem with being vetted. what i do have a problem with is being lied out aabout and then putting that out there as truth. >> a lot of people said last night's debate was going to be all about jeb bush. by most accounts he had a much stronger performance than he did in the previous debates.
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the problem for bush is he still seemed to be in mark yo rubio's shadows. i don't know where a lot of supporters who have been sitting on the fence will go in light of the debate. >> john roberts. thank you. the economy the most important issue for americans deciding their vote according to the fox news pole. 38 percent i should say economy is the most important issue. which candidate fared best on money matters? political panel from the accountability project and columnist at city and state ny evans. thank you for joining us this morning. >> you have been here before. déjà vu. we have a lot more details this time in this debate. let's start with the winners and losers in terms of the economy. we said most important to viewers. who did that? >> as a democrat i have to say everybody on stage was pretty disas strouss from my
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perspective. there will be differences between democrats analysis and republican analysis. a shocker, i can't believe i am saying this, i think donald trump won on the economy. mostly because he's really standing for the middle class. he leads a progressive tax system. >> john kerry in 2004. >> maybe because he was hanging out with democrats for so long. >> even though he said he would not raise the minimum wage. to be fair i don't think anybody on stage beliefs in that anyway. >> evan in terms of who you thought was the best on the economy? >> i think the best on the economy was marco rubio. he was able to relate it on a personal label explaining candy crush verses -- it shows he unstands what's going on in people's new york lives. everybody was playing candy crush on the subway three years
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ago except me. >> in terms of the minimum wage what rubio said if you raise the minimum wage you are going to make people more expensive than a machine. >> one liners. the majority of americans do want a minimum wage increasement they think it will hurlt republicans if they don't say they have to raise it. >> losers? >> without a doubt ben carson. at this point -- this is the 4th debate for him. why hasn't he figured out an answer for he can am ecclesias c nomiccinomi -- economic issues. he doesn't have the talking points down. he needs better preparation. >> evan? >> i would agree, but toward the end of the debaton kasich confused me. he got very cluttered and said he wouldn't bail out a bank but he would. i don't know what side of that issue he was standing on. when you are talking about the republican base and a guy who
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needs to gabove 2 percent in th polls i don't get it. >> i love the debate between rand paul and marco rubio about defense spending. it is the division between the republican party. marco rubio handled himself well. i don't i don't agree with him but he knows his national security issues very well. everybody responds to having a stronger america and cutting defense is against for the most part republican values. >> i agree with nomiki. he had a firm grasp of the issues. he faced the foreign policy in reality in the exchange with rand paul.
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marco rubio recognized that and stated that. >> his stance has not changed. >> immigration, winner? >> immigration winner. >> kasich. so many faces. >> kasich. the interesting thing about kasich is he is very reasonable. he can take an issue that may be controversial and he can talk about it whether he's talking about the economy something that a unpopular. he's able to rebut donald trump. >> do you think he sounded reasonable? that's the opposite of what a lot of people are saying. a lot are saying he was boisterous and he came off as argumentative and mean. >> he also explained controversial policies from the economy to battling it out with donald trump. he wants to deport 11 million people. he was the first person on the debate stage to go through why. >> john kasich was the top candidate on immigration. when donald trump was saying we
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are going to deport 11 million people all at once kasich stood up and said that's not economically feasible. even if you supported that there's no way you can do it. we are not structured to. the economic impact would be a terrible disaster. >> i like the point when it talks about the people that have attempted to i am great here legally and how it isn't fair to them. i agree with that point. >> overall winner. >> i know it isn't popular but i think john kasich is next to rubio the biggest threat with the democratic party. despite the fact that he didn't poll well he stands for issues and can get into the details. everybody else was rehearsed. >> you think he has best chance against democrats because he's most in line with him on a lot of ideas. >> maybe and he is from ohio. >> i think marco rubio is hitting hid stride at every debate he has been there and good.
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he's really communicating and connecting with the voters and able to take per roddy attacks that would trip up other candidates. >> we have to wrap it up. show your signs for a loser. carson and bush. okay. thank you so much for joining us. lots to talk about. appreciate it. >> four gop presidential candidates sharing the stage for a feisty early debate. chris christie keeping focus on hillary clinton as huckabee and bobby jindal clashed over the spending budget. garrett, good morning. >> this was governor chris christie's first appearance in one of the early debates. he has one target who wasn't on the stage. hillary clinton. on issue after issue christie warned voters about what a clinton presidency would do it would hurt the economy move the country further to the left and represent four more years of president obama's policies. >> if anybody believes the stuff they heard from that democratic
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debate a few weeks ago, there's nothing for free. what they forgot to tell you is they were going to raise your tax rates from 70 to 80 percent in order to provide all of that stuff. if you listen to hillary clinton, and she is made it very clear, she believes she can make decisions for you better than you can make them for yourself. the greatness of america is in the american people. what we need to do is get the government the hel out of the way and let the american people win once again. >> while christie focused almost entirely on hillary clinton santorum stayed almost out of the frame bobby jindal went after the record in cutting government spending saying he was the only one running for gop nomination who did cut spending. that prompted a sharp exchange over his record as governor as arkansas. >> as governor spending in arkansas went up 65 percent. number of state workers went up
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20 percent. taxes for average citizen went up 47 percent. that's not a record of cutting. >> huckabee responded saying it's not accurate to claim no other republican had ever cut taxes. last night's early debate marked the first time senator lindh day gram and george pataki did not qualify for the evening debate. mike huckabee and christie both making their first appearance and according to feedback from folks both did pretty well there. >> garrett tenney live for us. the time is 11 after the top of the hour. carly fiorina knocks trump for how he got to know russian president vladmir putin. >> i would not be talking to vladmir putin. although i have met him as well not in a green room for a show but in a private meeting. if that's true? we are checking some of the top debate claims. >> hillary clinton responds to the gop debate. the tweet you have to see to
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>> twru or false. candidates are making comments on key issues. national reporter and real clear politics katelyn hue we burns. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> let's see what they are saying. ben carson. he said this about raising ma minimum wage. >> every time we raise the minimum wage the number of jobless people increases. particularly a problem in the black community. only 19.8 percent of black
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teenagers have a job. think they are looking for one. that's because of the high wages. >> sounds pretty compelling. true or false? >> this one is a little complicated but we did a fact check on it. they looked at the past three decades time the in which the minimum wage was increased compared to whether or not that contributed in the following 12 months to an increase to unemployment rate and it found while the rates did go up and also went down, it did go up more than it went down. it wasn't every single time like carson had suggested. it was also difficult to pinpoint what contributed exactly to that unemployment new testame testament, whether it was a direct hike in the wage. >> his campaign is essentially self made. let's listen to what he has to say. >> i don't have to give you a
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web site because i am self funding my campaign. i am putting of up may own money. true or false? >> that is also technically false. while donald trump has not been actively seeking donations he hasn't been hosting fund raisers he is still getting donations. the past quarter he received more than almost $4 million in do nations and has been spending that money, too. >> donald trump hasaid he met vladimir putin. said he met him in a green room. carly fee reason how had something different to say. >> as far as syria, i like, if put tin wants to go in i got to know him pretty well because we were both on 60 minutes. we were stable mates. we did very well. >> one of the reasons i said i would not be talking to vladmir putin i have met him as well not in a green room for a show but in a private meeting. >> that's not what she said before. >> where did you meet him?
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>> i met him in beijing. we were in sort of a green room setting, actually. >> so this one is false. the difference, though, the campaign has argued the green room was the green room for a beach, the two were speaking at the same conference in 2001 and they met in the green room there. the not the same as a green room for a show. >> hillary clinton firing back on social media during the debate once again using a controversial benghazi post. the it shows her acting board. >> some say he is disrespectful to american chris stevens who died during the terrorist attack. >> bernie sand bers criticizing what republicans were not talking about martin o'malley
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directly attacked ted cruz. the time right now 18 after the top of the hour. still to come, a fox news alert. no survivors. you want to see this. a plane crashes into an apartment complex sparking this, a raging inferno. a snatch chat video capturing the moment of impact. >> oh my god. >> so horrible. the dramatic new images just coming in. >> the growing threat of isis. which democratic candidate has a strategy to take down the terrorists. there's something out there. that can be serious, even fatal to infants. it's whooping cough, and people can spread it without knowing it. understand the danger your new grandchild faces. talk to your doctor or pharm a whooping cough vaccination today.
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>> this morning on fox and friends first. no survivors after a small plane plunges into an apartment building. this happened in ohio. it was captured on video as the building explodes into flames. >> i can see it burning right now. i thought i heard a plane go down. i can see an explosion. i can see fire. >> the private plane carrying 9 people on the final approach to akron airport when it crashed. the plane appeared to clipped a wire. >> it was a massive explosion and instantly it was gone. it was completely gone to the ground. kept exploding. sounded like gunfire going off every where. >> a teen also catching the moment on snap chat video. >> oh my god. >> no one was at home at the time of the crash. investigators say the cause appears to be mechanical.
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more than 100 people now indicted by the grand jury in texas in connection with the deadly biker shoot-out nine people were killed at the waco restaurant. the 18 others hospitalized. total of 177 bikers were arrested. the shootout was sparked by an apparent confrontation between two motorcycle clubs. 71 other cases have yet to be presented to the grand jury. >> three people charged in the largest blank data base in history. hundreds of millions of dollars manipulating the prices of stock sold to customers whose information had been stolen. joshua is one of the men charged along with gary shalon and zip zorn steen. a potential attack on free speech. this e-mail asked them to report
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any hurtful or hateful speech. campus police also having death threats on-line. this is after they were ousted for not dealing with acts of racism on campus. they threatened to boycott if the lists of demands were not met. one teacher resigned after protests over free speech. she apologized after the incident was caught on camera. on veteran's day many places are saying thank you by offering freebies. a long list offering veterans free meals today. free at starbucks, chris pee creep and pets coffee. do you need a haircut? great clips is giving free haircuts for all vets. entrance to parks and museums. fore a full list check out
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foxandfriendsfirst.com. thank you. thank you to our veterans. >> a little christmas competition brewing. they are revealing the new holiday cups with the word joy. starbucks have been criticized because in years past it has various holiday designs on the cups. >> for the 20th annual fashion show, new york city this year's lineup the biggest ever 44 models strutting their stuff. the show will air on december 8th. i am sure there will be lots of people watching that. the time now is 26 after the top of the hour. fiery exchange of the foreign policy. >> if putin wants to knock the hell out of isis. i am for it is hundred percent. >> that's like a board game. that's not how the real world
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power in the world. >> it makes no sense. >> all i can say is, you are lucky in ohio that you struck oil. >> you need to do a top to bottom review of every regulation on the book. >> hillary clinton has said barack obama's policies get an a. >> welcome to "fox & friends first". you get an a for joining us this morning. >> there was a lot of substance last night. they compared and contrasted the issues. shocking comments came from rubio and paul over the military and jeb bush was feisty over boots in syria. >> conservative to add a trillion dollars in military expenditures. there are radical jihadists in
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the middle east beheading people and crucifying christians. a radical shiite cleric in iran trying to get radical weapons. i know the world is a safer and better place when america has the strongest military power in the world. >> if putin wants to knock the hell out of isis. >> let isis take out assad and putin will take out isis. that is like a board game. that's not how the world works. we have to lead. >> there were also sharp differences as well over immigration including one moment where donald trump insulted john kasich and got booed for it. >> we are a country of laws. we need to ha-- we either have country or don't have a country. we are a country of laws. >> we all know you can't pick them up and ship them back across the border. it's a silly argument. it makes no sense. >> i don't have to hear from mr. --
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>> let me say a couple of things here. you should let -- >> thank you donald for allowing me to speak at the debate. that's really nice of you. appreciate that. >> there were very different approaches on the economy last night. carly fiorina coming at it from a business perspective rubio defending his plan to increase the child tax credit. >> the secret sauce of america is innovation and entrepreneur ship. it is why we must cut our government down to size and hold it accountable. it's why we have to take our government back. >> it is expensive to raise children in the 21st century. 25 out of 30 states child care costs more than college. they don't know how they are going to make the payment every month. if they can't make it they can't work. the pro family tax i have will strengthen the most important institution in the country, the family. >> all eyes are on jeb bush to see if he would improve on the past three debate performances.
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bay most accounts he did much better particularly when he took on hillary clinton here. >> hillary clinton has said barack obama's policies get an a. really? one in 10 people aren't working or have given up all together as you said. that's not an a. one in 7 people are living in poverty. that's not an a. one in five children are not on food stamps that's not an a. >> bush came in second to marco rubio on the establishment side. a lot of bush supporters are looking at rubio. i expect a lot will be looking harder today rm>> thank you, john, long night. the candidates were ready for round four but did they make their mark? who were the winners and losers of the debate? here to weigh in former campaign advisor to hillary clinton and fox news contributor jim green and michael barns. thank you for getting up so early. appreciate it. let's get right to it. let's talk about the economy
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first. first and foremost who was the winner? >> overall fox business was the winner because it was a substantive debate on economic issues and combat was left to the candidates. the winner candidate wise marco rubio. >> why? >> because he was the only candidate who shifted away from focusing on obama's policies that have actually added so many jobs to the economy is since the recession. he name dropped candy crush as important thing in the economy. i thought that was an understanding that has not been brought to the conversations with the republican candidates about this new economy. >> michael? >> i thought rubio won on the economy because he actually appealed to the base in a very important way that it recognized that he sees people working as most people working but not getting ahead. that's something that everyone in the united states, not just the conservatives who were part of this republican base can
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agree with but allowed a lot of those buzz words important to the conservatives like for example, balance the budget. so ultimately he got all of the right buzz words in. he did very, very eloquent and was able to speak to the issues that are important to most people but also to the banks. >> loser? >> loser? ben carson. >> ben carson. it was the moment when he literally talked about 19d 13 home solution i have had like, what? >> ben car nson not inspiration. >> john kasich was the loser. he had what would appeal to a moderate mainstream electorate. he was nearly booed off the stage suggesting he would bail out bank of america if it was nets to save the people whose deposits were on the line. ultimately it did not appeal to
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the particular base for the republican primary season. >> let's move to immigration. immigration topic. who do you think won that? >> i would say that ted cruz won it. he was able to take the man tell from donald trump and tap into the base their position on immigration right now. i think he did it interestingly by shifting it into an economic issue and talked about what if it was journalists coming across the border it would be a different conversation. you miss the fact that the con trib baugss to the gdp that undocumented immigrants have right now. that's the real issue. >> i was shocked to see that trump lost on immigration, he made the point that he wanted to deport 11 million people and it didn't hit well. built a wall made sense, but perhaps the deportation of 11 million people got hard push back.
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the push back is what got the applause. >> we don't have time for commentary but over all winner and loser. >> the overal winner was mark yo rubio his star is rising, he got really good lines in there. overall loser tie between these guys trump and carson. they faded out. they were the frontrunners they didn't need to do anything maybe they felt. >> marco rubio hit the button. bush and kasich didn't appeal to the base. >> we will see what the voters have to say today. i am sure there will be a lot of opinions. lia? >> the time is now 39 minutes after the hour. the question, is our country doing noenough to help our hero? we have the fix that would make life easier for those who serve. mo americans say the economy is the most important issue. we have the jobs, the highest earning potential right now.
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during the debate. he was followed by trump, rand paul. cruz and carly fiorina. taxes that was the top issue. social security and medicare came in second. super pacs, jobs and employment and climate change round out top 5. super p interesting how social media is able to track those. >> how did the candidates rank last night? the focus group giving the worst rating of any debate to governor john kasich. >> what would you do if the baipg was failing? >> i would not let the people who put their money in their all go down. >> you would bail them out. >> i would figure out how to separate those people who can afford it verses those people who are the hard-working folks who put their money in those institutions. (booing) >> they clammed him on what he
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would do during a financial crisis. >> who had a negative reaction to john kasich tonight? really? >> painful. >> i need a word of to describe him? >> boring. >> tiring. >> irritating. >> finished. >> finished. >> he doesn't belong on the stage. chris christie should have been there. >> how mooney would put chris christie on the stage in the next debate? >> isn't that interesting? the winner of the debate according to the group senator marco rubio. >> the time is 44 men's after the hour. do college degrees are will w l really payoff? we have the ones that are worth it and the ones you may want to rethink. >> which republican candidates has the best strategy to take down the terrorists a former navy seal live to weigh in.
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the world is a stronger and a better place when the united states is the strongest military power in the world. >> how is it conservative to add a trillion dollar expenditure for the federal government that you are -- how is it conservative to add a trillion dollars in military expenditures. you can't be a conservative if you are promoting new programs you are not going to pay for. >> it was one of the most talked about moments of the debate. that exchange about military spending between senators rand paul and marco rubio.
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it raises the question can you be a conservative if you spend so much money on the military. let's ask former navy seal co founder of "echelon front." first off when you and i were in commission in 1990. 98 the world was in peace. when i left the military we were in two wars and you were fighting them. the world is most unstable than it has been in our lifetime. how do you balance that money verses growing the military. >> we have to take care of our military. >> it was a great answer marco rubio gave to rand falpaul. we have to keep our military strong or it's going to cost us a lot more money and a lot more lives. >> a lot of people concerned about terrorism. there's growing evidence the bomb took down that russian jet.
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who would you say had the best strategy to bring down isis and who would be the best commander-in-chief. >> i liked what he said. marco rubio gave strong support there. i think what rand paul is saying with donald trump as well, it's very concerning that they're not going to get it done. they're basically going to lean on the obama strategy which has been disastrous for us. for those of us who fought this enemy, they call it the islamic state. they're coming for us. the russian airliner is a great example if we don't do something about them today, they're going to come after us. it is veterans' day. happy veterans' day to you. >> to you too. >> both of us have seen our friends who served with us come back with wounds that are better seen than unseen. governor huckabee had something
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to say about them in the early debates. less than 1% of americans go to the military for service. we're fighting wars with other people's kids in large measure because we have not taken seriously the moral, not the monetary, the moral obligation to take care of the veterans and to keep america's promise to the ones who kept their promise to america. >> what's your response to that? >> well, i think governor huckabee is right there. we've got to do a better job of taking care of veterans. it starts with dismantling the incredible bureaucracy infested at the v.a. and fixing that organization so they can actually treat veterans and take care of veterans. >> what are you hearing about the v.a. and what the problems are now that need to be fixed? what are your friends saying, people that you served with? >> i think it's a matter of trying to stumble through red tape and waiting. i think those are the big issues
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they've. you have doctors and treatment available. but you just get put in a big queue of a long line of folks. if we could open that up and people could get treatment at a civilian hospital and have that covered through a program run by the v.a., that would be excellent. >> thanks for your take there. i know you mentioned doctors and the v.a. health system. when i was in san diego, i had a lot of interaction with the v.a. hospital there. a lot of people working hard to take care of our veterans. we want to mention that as well. heather over to you. >> the time now is 8 minutes specifically until the top of the hour. the gop candidates making their case on the number one issue for voters. that is the economy. do college degrees really pay off? we have the one that is are worth it and the ones you might want to rethink. stay with us. i have type 2 diabetes.
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well, a lot of talk in the debate about the economy. but most of the americans with still concerned about their salaries. the national average wage index shows that median salaries have
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gradually increased since 2008. but which jobs earn the most wages? those that pay off, those that don't. joining us now is senior writer for opportunity, liz kerry sheffield. thanks for joining us. it was a long night. >> it was. in it for the long haul. >> tell us about the best jobs for the voters at home. >> some of hottest areas that we're seeing is health care, technology and energy. health care, we see the -- there's going to be a lot of need for the jobs to fill, caring for them, home care, nursing, et cetera. then in technology, i mean that's where we see so much growth in terms of venture capital, backing firms taking off. whether it's the next uber, that's where the payoffs are. we have fracking in terms of energy, shale, the huge boom that has made america less dependent on the middle east. which is excellent in terms of national security. these are three hot areas.
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>> it was interesting that one of the topics that marco rubio touched on. he said especially vocational training. he said that is important. he said that more welders, less philosophers was another talking point that he had. >> you know, in this country, we have credit card debt has been surpassed by student debt. more than a trillion dollars outstanding in student debt. a lot of people are feeling crushed under this. we need to think about alternatives. marco rubio has been talking about that. it doesn't make sense to go into debt for an english degree from an ivy league school that you won't use those. >> which are the most useful in terms of getting a job once you graduate. >> right, right. connecting what you're studying theoretically to the marketplace is very important. i think the stem, science, technology, engineering and math are critical in terms of getting a payoff. rois, return on investment. english, liberal, arts, art
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history, a lot of these things you don't necessarily need this deep technical training. you might want to rethink why you're going into debt for this. in fact, this was an interesting book by scholars, manhattan institute talking about we need to think about college as an investment and too many kids today are thinking about it as a consumption. like a luxury good, i'm going to party for four years, go to spring break, fraternity parties. they're going into debt to have experiences when they should be thinking it's an investment of my time and money. >> we have 30 seconds left. what is the most important thing you heard from the candidates? >> focusing on growth and talking about inequality. the overall take away is that growth is how you help resolve inequality and not the other way around. which the democrats want to use government an exacerbate inequalities, which is an
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important point. >> keep talking about the debate. did your presidential pick change. whose message resonated the most? log on to the "fox and friends first" facebook page. #keep talking. much more post debate analysis starting on "fox and friends." thank for joining us. bye. good morning to you. it is wednesday, november 11, 2015. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. the stakes were high and the candidates delivered. >> think about the families. think about the children. >> send them back $500,000 a month is not possible. >> we either have a country or we don't have a country. we are a country of laws. >> but the real winner, the fox business network. don't listen to us say that. let cnn tell you. >> it's going to kill cnn. ben carson fires aback calling out hillary clinton on her

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