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a small group of angry black students manage to force the resignation of the two highest ranking officials at that school, complaining they did not show enough concern about racial issues at the school, including the self defense shooting of michael brown in ferguson last winter. since then, tepnsions have grown. mem bers of the rotc were being told not to wear their uniforms today, veteran's day, because of worries about violence. two students from other moo mo campuses have been arrested for making threats on social media. protests have now spread to ithica college in new york where some african american students are calling on the president there to resign, alleging that they have not been racially sent. at yale, students attacking conservative speaker angerer which youly spitting on them or shouting them down because they did not like what the speakers were saying. and at the university of texas,
they are warning that this is a signal to students across the country that they can take control and change the way things work. again, dr. ben carson, fresh off of last night's debate and the yale graduate himself will address this with us in a moment. and then we will hear from our panel of voters, including doctors, marines, former police officers and are ely jous officials. but, first, trace gallagher live with more on the free speech debate raging at yale and beyond. trace? >> megyn, the number of real and perceived threats are m coing in so fast that campus police are spread very thin trying to figure out which ones, if any, try to pose a risk. first, there was an anonymous spoeshl media post saying i'm going to stand my grand tomorrow and shoot every black person i see. that was followed by this. some of you are all right. don't go to campus tomorrow.
police have now arrested a student in connection with those threats. that uniform band has now been extended to friday. and the university of missouri student body president posted on facebook saying students take precaution. the k-k-k has been confirmed to be cited on campus. campus police knocked that claim doumpb and the student body later retracted he has stachlt. at yale, the daily news reports the signs with racist messages have now been found on campus. all lives malter. talking about black violence and race. now, remember, the debate at yale fwan when the dean who told
students to avoid halloween costumes. a professor disagreed saying offensive costumes are part of free speech and a free society. here's how one student responded to that claim. watch. >> i'm sending out that e-mail. that's against your position as master. do you understand that? >> no, i don't agree with that? then why the [expletive] did you take the position? who the [expletive] hired you? sit down. >> and the man who took the video of that screaming stunt later spoke at a free-speech conference only to be confronted by another screaming student. watch again. >> just so you know, yale has a policy of no filming on campus without permission.
the dean is now looking to extend that to cell phones. >> trace, thank you. >> dr. carson, thank you for being here tonight. how do you see this debate unfolding? >> that's just the problem. it's not a debate. that's what needs to happen. the two sides need to sit down and have an open discussion. it's part of the problem that's going on in our country right now. people get in their respective corners and demoonize each other but there's no conversation. if you ask people to put on the record what their gripes are and what their solutions are, then perhaps they can see that maybe they err not so far apart. but this is just raw emotion. and people being manipulated. i think, in many of these cases,
outside forces who wish to create disturbances. >> what do you make of these students who are with them, can't wear offensive halloween costumes. offensive in if mind of bhoem? so the message was just don't do it. and one tried to say you know what, some offense, you may have to learn to live with it. you saw the students yelling in his face. the anger she had in his message of sometimes you might have to accept that not everything is going to be totally okay with you. well, we need recognize that this is a very dangerous trend. when we get to a point where a majority can say i don't like what you're doing. i don't like what you're doing,
you know, that really goes against the grain of our constitutional rights. and if we don't see that, we're in really big trouble right now. >> you had a mother who told you, tough. you're going to have to read more and get better and get yourself out of here with a good education. what they're telling you, if you hear something offensive, call the cops. what are we doing to tomorrow's generation? >> well, we're being a little too toll rant, i guess you might say, accepting infantile behavior. and i don't care which side it comes from.
it's un-american. it's unconstitutional. and the officials must have the moral courage to stand up to it. we will move much further towards anarchy. we k. allow those kinds of things to ham. it's the same thing that happens in divorce. >> you saw that one professor who said, you know, that's life. and you saw the students. this is your al ma malter shouting in his face.
you went to yale. was there this little tolerance? >> no, not at all. this is something that's starting to develop now. i know the president of yale and he's a very, very reasonable person. i would imagine that he's working overtime right now to try to establish some dialogue. >> well, he's the one who didn't want the hall wean costumes. . well, let me ask you this. speaking of your time at yale, last week, about some stories in your memoir were true. one of them was your time at yale. they decided to play some tricks. you had to show up the next day.
retake the exam. you said most of the students walked out, except for you. and then at the end, that you were still there and the professor came over, gave you ten bucks and said you're the last honest man. then the newspapers did some digging and said they didn't believe it happened. the wall street journal said they didn't find your picture in the paper. didn't find the course 301, which is how you styled it. you wound up plo deucing a newspaper article that backed you up. nonethele nonetheless, some of the details were wrong. it didn't happen on the date you said. now, can you understand why some have raised questions even though these stories may have checked out, they had factual
inaccuracies in them. >> well, the fact of the matter is i defie you to find anybody who can go back and accurately detail anything that happens 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago. you can give the general flavor, and that's what i did, working with a co-writer. you're never going to have the exact details. but then why fill them in? >> 245 book was written 25 years ago. i don't remember what dfrgs was with the co-writer at that time. i rebel that we had the class and i told him about the class dand i told him what happened. and it's been verified that that happened. but, you know, every small detail x, i don't think it's
even reasoning. if somebody has all the details and they remember to that specificity, that would make me proficient. >> last question before i go. how do you think you did at the debate last night? >> i was actually much happier with the debate last night, particularly having the 90 second format where you can get a reasonable thought across to people. >> thank you for being here tonight, sir. >> always a pleasure, thank you. >> well, as we mentioned a moment ago, our panelists here. when we come back, they will weigh in. a new controversy and the fallout from last night's debate. >> the current system isn't fair. washington is fundmently corrupt. >> there are more words in the irs code than there are in the bible. and not a one of them is as good. here at fidelity,
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its take on what koumd be next of the two gop contenders. >> tax reform and regulatory reform. reinvig ration manufacturing. make it heeler and easier to access. welders make more money than philosophers. >> but i can tell you for millions of americans at home watching this, it is a very personal economic issue.
the chinese taking over the south china sea. >> you think defending this nation is expensive, try not defending it. that's a lot more expensive. >> but you can codo that and pay for it. >> we're joined now by our panel of last night's debate. first of all, raise your hand if you think senator marco rubio
>> does that suede anybody to say he's a good orator and a good debater? >> cruz is a senate for. he has good ideas. but he brought up a very good point that i was thinking about watching him. he's disagreed with everyone. he's fought with everyone. we have that now in the white house. so what -- what will he bring different to the white house? how is he going to get things done? >> you want somebody who's going to get along with others? are you really a republican? >> yes, i am. but he will get along less than everyone else. >> go ahead. >> i disagree with just about everyone on marco rubio.
it didn't sound genuine to me at all. ted cruz is a much better debater. does that mean i'm ready to commit yet? absolutely not. >> i disagree with bs it a little bit about ted cruz. it's not his or rating skills that really impressed me. it's the fact that he does stand up to both parties. he's a principled man. he did it the last time when he put the moderators in check. and those are qualities we need in a leader. i need somebody who's going to say these are my principals and i will stand behind them. >> who did you like last night? >>. >> i liked rubio. but i was really listening for
tax reform, foreign policy, i don't really care but what are these people going to do? >> anthony, go ahead. >> i think cruz, hands down, the more he speaks, the smarter he is. that we can see it coming out of him. and as a single issue voter -- >> what's your issue? >> cruz all the way. cruise is a guy who has the debate award named after him. he won nine cases in front of the supreme court. he showed his kills last night. rubio will make me forget about the bottle of water. >> but does that mean that they're going to be a good president? a lot say he was the most skilled orator we've seen and they don't like him as president. >> i actually, all of these people say he's not experienced in trying to compare him to obama. i think it completely the opposite.
i think cruz completely reinforced the point of why peemd should vote for him. he was full of substance, he gave a lot of detail. there's that fire. we -- >> speaking of fire, did anybody think jeb bush won the debate? >> no, no. >> why? >> i think he laid out a very, very clear plan, very el kwently, on tax reform on immigration and how we can move to a skilled space immigration system that can actually improve the labor situation. i think the economy is the most important. >> so, now, our friend katrina has been made trump's national po spokesperson for the campaign. so i know that you kind of have to say that he won. but specifically, why. he wunt as big of a factor. >> i guess that's a good thing.
he doesn have to be, does he. i just heard everybody talk about the reason why he's a great orator with no experience is not a good thing or a bad thing. you're talking about two lawyers who argue for a living who try to convince other people that they are right. and trump has been on top along with carson because they are not your typical politics. that is a driving force in the party. you can't have an honest discussion about the u.s. economy without addressing illegal immigration. >> and that's where we're going next. standby. one of the hottest molts came when republicans started fighting over immigration and calls to deport the illegal immigrants fighting right now. wait until you see where that fight went today.
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think about the children. it's a silly argument. >> 12 million illegal immigrants 500,000 a month is just not possible. it would send a signal that we're not the kind of country we know america is. >> i wuould not try going to china or japan. try going to mexico. every sovereign nation secures its borders. it is not kpash gnat. >> the fall out with the exchanges you just saw. but it did not end there.
when donald trump with the deportation picked up where the debate left off. >> tell me how are you going to have a massive deportation? >> you're going to have a deportation force. you're going to bring the country because you have some excellent, wonderful people that have been here for a long peer dwrod of time. don't forget that you have millions of people that are waiting online to come into this country. and they're waiting to come in legally. >> so a deportation force which has some of the conservative laws saying how does that work if trump says he's going to get the illegal i78 grants out in a year. imagine the manpower that would take to hunt down 11 million illegal immigrants. do you want that? first of all? raise your hand if you want that. you do? yes, why? whether or not it's realistic to
get them out and deport them all. the idea that we're racist because we want to protect the sovereignty of our country, of our borders. when does it end. are we supposed to be give iing amnesty to people? let them go back. come back, follow the laws and come back the right way. >> it's ridiculous. whatever the figures are. you're going to have these thugs kicking if people's doors. i know it was supposed to be a financial debate. no one's really talked about this. but the bounty of this great country comes from our creator. nobody's talking about that a lot. especially my candidated, rand paul.
there's a way we're supposed to treat people. >> speaking of that, how many people are against the thought? >>. >> when he talks about deporting all of the illegal imglants, it's not economical. it's not feasible. it comes across as fascism. that's not the american way. i don't think anybody with common sense is going to sign onto that. >> whand to that woman in san francisco was ridiculous. >> i thought it's the united states of america. >> there is the rule of law, people. when you talk about not deporting illegals, you're saying you don't want to deport
the law. that is our current law. >> how would it work? >> it's totally, totally wrong to have a deportation. >> let them enforce the laws they already have. >> the exceptions are not fair. you are not going to get the mass illegal influx that we currently have. >> in the do min kal republic, they're building a wall. >> forget about the logistics. what we have to show and demonstrate, and that's what trump is doing, we're taking a
zero tolerance policy. what bothers me is how many are saying we're not going to deport you. we would be arrested and put in jail. now we're starting to say hey, even though we broke the law, we're going to be sensitive towards the issue. this is the problem in america. >> first, we secure our borders. and then we come up with an amnesty program. if you can prove to me that you have gainful employment -- >> what about john kasich's decision? what about his point which is let's be honest. we're not going to get 11 million people out of the country. >> i agree with you, as well as jeb bush.
it's like watching paint dry. but i have to agree with you. trying to get 11 million people to bust down the door is not going to happen. why don't we just be nazi germany. but if you build a path to set zen ship. >>. >> even funding to go to school. i think that donald trump has done an excellent job. he has been the only candidate that's really, really out spoken chlts. >> that's what he was saying. >> there's a really important generational divide that looks towards the general election because young voters decided that in 2012, they're going to do it again in 20167. 16. they have the style test last night on this issue.
>> we're going to have to speak in a different way when we're talking about the general election in this issue. >> in between what donald trump was saying and what the other candidates are saying. but it has to start someone. this is a country of laws. >> but who, here, when it comes to marco rubio. his detractors say he was somebody who wanted to sponsor immigration reform. and they can't get passed that. how many people will hold that effort against him? where he tried to get comprehensive reform? and how many say that's not a deal breaker? any others? standby. we have much more to discus.
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>> i wouldn't mess with you. >> i can tell when she's lying because her lips are moving, you know? it's ridiculous with this woman. and then to see her that you're a liar. >> unfortunately, that's the political season that we're in. >> darren, your thoughts? when he was running for office, someone stated that barack obama was a muslim. john mccain stopped. it would have been a quick fix. no, it's not okay to tramp this woman. >> does he really mean that he wanted to strangle her? >> she's running for president. she needs to be more presidential. >> and i don't think it's the candidate's place to correct everything that's said to them. >> she was laughing, though.
>> the reatty here is you know she's wrong when joy behart took her to task. >> let me ask you this. i forgot to ask you by the way, how many people think carl carly fiorina. she had to dust with mr. trump, a couple of them, including one where he got a little irritated. and her's what happened. >> why does she keep interrupting everybody? >> i'd like to finish my response, basically. >> so he got booed there. that's where he lost you?
>>. >> the masgonist scene is really unnecessary. so what is the problem. >> you're doing this to the male candidates, as well. it's a debate. you're there to explain the issues. and that's why you saw the boo. >> you know what, it finally dawned on me. he's threatened by her. >> i'm glad he did that because he treats kaisich and rand paul the same way. he's not going to treat anybody differently. if you want someone who's going
to treat women nicely going after hillary, good luck with that. >> fiorina ha her share of problems because of her per formabs. >> they're talking about how he lost his job. >> a lot of my listeners, that's what they call in. we've got that problem with rubio. i want to go back to trump for just a seconds. i thought he had a very strong debate in his subdued way. there's no way he was threatened. >> anybody -- go ahead in the back. >> anybody insulted in that statement should not be in a presidential debate. if we think they're going to be offended, then get off the stage. >>. >> later in the debate, they had an exchange over she actually met vladimir putin.
it was a green room, right? so she was wrong. she said the wrong thing. but then trump had said that he met vladami, r putin. they were on different contin t continents. >> he said i met him in the green room. that's not true. >> then why is that not okay for ben carson, then. why is that not okay to recall the exact detail. i'm soar ri, let's level the playing field. >> you know why. >> that's what we need too ficus on. they were both very good at it.
>> who are those who are not your favorite candidate. >> well, i'll tell you, that's one of the things that chris christy in the first debate and the second debate capitalize ds. that's why i'll stand with john saying jeb really tid make a much better showing in this debate than in prior debates. it's about winning the white house. not winning gens against each other. >> i think they've done a really great job reaching out to campuses. >> speaking ofly len yals, i think it was interesting that student loan issues didn't get brought up. >> because he just paid his off. >> in that respect, he's definitely the moegs relateble
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on veterans day there was one exchange about military spending and how robust it should be. raise your hand if you're a veteran here. we put them all together. they stick together, shoulder to shoulder, nice, gentlemen. whether you feel that overall in these debates enough attention has been paid to vets and their issues? >> there has been about 11 hours of debate and just small cursory amounts of time paid attention to veterans. i'm a dad of two kids who are now serving in the army. i'm also a combat veteran myself. for first time i'm going to vote for their boss, not my own. for us to really truly support my children now that are going off into the army, we've got to be economically strong to be able to buy the equipment and the things that they need to protect themselves and to be lethal on the battlefield. we've got to really start talking about that. until somebody really comes to me with a plan that says, look, we're going to get back on our feet economically, it is not going to be realistic to me that
we're going to be a strong military power. we're right now in a serious drawdown and a resource constraint situation. our soldiers are hurting. >> is there a candidate who stands above the others in your mind? >> not right now. >> any of you guys? >> not one. >> no, none of them. none of them has impressed you on military so far. >> many of these candidates are making statements on how robust they want to make the military, but it costs substantial amounts of money. it costs roughly a million dollars to send a soldier overseas for a one-year deployment. where is all the money coming from? i understand the drawback. however, a lot of entitlements in government spending need to be pulled back. but i haven't heard a candidate state anything specific that's going to make this happen. >> go ahead, oscar. >> one of the things i was going to say, the picture of the officer there was very touching. as a veteran and retired law enforcement officer, i state and agree that we live in the greatest country in the world. but one of the thins also no
candidate has also addressed thus far is talking about veterans, the guys who come home from war, what type of help, what type of aid, mental counseling, all these different things. people go out there, put their lives on the line for this country and then when they come home, the way they're treated, employment, things of those nature, i think people need to step up to the plate and talk more about veterans and helping them, especially all these mental issues and jobs. >> but not just the v.a. scandal, but more than that, broader. >> megyn, there's no accountability in the v.a. every single democrat on the house veterans affairs committee voted no on the accountability act. they're in bed with the union. we've got to get the d.o.d. and the v.a. talking to each other. how do you do that? you might be able to advocate for an electronic health record. because right now they do not talk to each other. veterans do not get choices as far as how they schedule their appointments. >> and they need to. got to leave it at that.
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so it's over between us, but we're keeping this panel. and the next segment will air this weekend. set your dvr. i'm megyn kelly. this is "the kelly file." tonight -- >> you're lucky in ohio that you struck oil. that's one thing. >> the 2016 gop candidates squared off in last night's republican debate. >> for those of us who believe that people ought to come to this country legally and we should enforce the law, we're tired of being told it'sent immigrant. >> ted cruz is here tonight with reaction from last night's showdown. and governor chris christie lashed out at hillary clinton. >> wait till you see what hillary clinton will do to this country and drown us in debt. the new jersey governor is here with more. plus one of the most talked about moments from last