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now. republican front-runner donald trump is taking heat over his plan to deport illegal immigrants. this comes after the it 2016 gop hopeful made this historical reference at tuesday a 's debat. >> we are a country. they'll have to go out, they can come back. but they'll have to come back. >> dwight eisenhower. people liked him. i like ike. the expression. moved 1 1/2 million illegal immigrants moved them just beyond the border, came back. moved them further. they came back. moved them way further south. they never came back. you don't get nicer, dwight eisenhower. >> some are slamming donald
trump for his eisenhower analogy but yesterday donald trump stood by his plan and even proposed a so-called deportation force to expedite the process. >> is you're going to have a deportation force and you're going to do it rue mainly and you're going to bring the country -- frankly, because you have some excellent, wonderful people, some fantastic people that have been here for a long period of time. they're going back where this he came. if they came from a certain country they're going to be brought back to their country. that's the way it's posed to be. they can come back but they have to come back legalpy. >> here tonight with reaction, "sold out -- high-tech billionaires and boif --" if you're from central america, from el salvador, from nicaragua and you go into mexico illegally, do you know what happens to you when you get caught. >> what happens.
>> it is horrible. it's horrible. it's inhumane. it's horrible, inhumane treatment. >> you get put in jail or you are get deported. >> it's terrible. terrible. >> michelle, i personally think that this discussion is meaningless until we get the border secure. every candidate wants to secure border. do you agree we should do that first and finally get it done because they haven't gotten it done up to this point? >> i would tweak that slightly. it is not just a matter of securing the border first. it is first us a and forever. securing the border is an eternally vigilant task, duty, of the federal government. what i have to say about the trump plan -- i like the fact that the open border lobbyists are absolutely going bananas on both the left around the right because he's calling the bluff
as i have called the bluff of these people for decades now. it is the elephant in the room among the gop elephants in the room and it really does reveal the true colors of the likes of john kasich and jeb bush, and yes, marco rubio, who was on the wrong side during the gang of eight debate in prioritizing who we should put first. francisco, it is not inhumane for any country that calls itself sompl to pvereign to pro own people first. >> all i'm saying is listen to what donald trump is saying. he is the most immigration reform advocate that i've heard this year. he's saying if they'll go back, he will create a system where they can come back legally. >> so you support trump. >> no, no. no one is more against undocumented immigration than undocumented immigrants. guys, come on. build your wall, you're going to
need them. >> big task force. >> we have 94.5 million americans out of the labor force and 50 million americans in poverty and 46 million americans on food stamps. i think we can find the workers. and the reason they went back -- >> after eisenhower was no more jobs after those soldiers came back from vietnam. >> i saw the pictures and people didn't look that upset when they were walking back to mexico when i saw some of the images in the inthe paper today. this is an important aspect of where this debate is in the country. polls show the republican voters agree with trump. >> in both parties the majority of voters agree with what trump's saying. when he talks about a depo deportation force, he's not talking about anything radical. what we already have, board patrolling and great lak ing li
enforcement agencies. i'd argue what's truly humane is to send a signal to all across south america that draws tens of thousands of children to be enslaved, to be kidnapped -- you have girls who are taking birth control pills before they went on their venture because they were so certain they were going to be raped. that is the most inhumane people you can draw to people to draw all of these illegals to come streaming across the board as children. i can't think of in ig more inhumane. >> this is now expanding among all the republican candidates and democratic candidates. here's ted cruz versus marco rubio. >> it is not --
>> the lesson of 2013 when i was involved in the bill in the senate the lesson i learned from that is the people the united states do not trust the federal government on immigration and you have to prove to them illegal immigration is sunday control. >> what is your reaction, michelle in. >> let me give you my reaction. informed citizens need to know that when push came to shove, ted cruz was on the right side and marco rubio was on the wrong side. even though he's had this late breaking campaign epiphany about gang of eight, fact is he was in the hip pocket of the open borders lobby and he remains so. his main funder is a billionaire hedge fund manager who was one of the biggest advocates and cheerleaders 40s gang of eight amnesty and people will have to judge that record versus
rhetoric. it was a mass blanket pardon. by the way, the obama executive amnesties which just got a huge nullification by the 5th circuit court of appeals grant millions -- millions -- of not only deportation waivers but this is the key point becoming the most jermaine point in this campaign. work authorization documents who affect millions of workers out of work, underemployed and that is the key focus of this campaign. >> are you can add to that -- >> listen, there's billions and billions of dollars spent on our educational system, our health care system and criminal justice system. people didn't respect our laws and sovereignty. shouldn't be a prerequisite of staying in our country? >> create the application
process. it is all about a process. >> i asked you a question. shouldn't there be a prerequisite if you want to come to america, first respect our laws, respect our sovereignty. >> yes, sir. yes, sir. i agree. sign me up. >> slick immigration lawyers. here's thing, viewers. slick immigration lawyers always say of course we respect the process. when their entirely livelihoods depend on undermining every last letter of the law that protects american workers and american citizens. that's why the gang of eight bill was thousands and thousands of pages because immigration lawyers and lobbyists like you are not looking out for the people. >> you been talk to my wife not to let me say anything. >> there is a line and it's outside of the country and there are a lot of people who were in that line waiting to come in here legally. there are people we want and they're dying to come to america because it is a nation of laws and --
>> francisco, your turn. >> oh, listen. that's it. people are dying to get here. i can't say it any other way. this is the american dream. it is all happy, they're working. the unemployment rate among undocumented is incredibly, incredibly low. plus -- >> wait a minute. they're driving down wages and taking jobs that americans would otherwise have. 94.5 million americans out of the laborforce. >> if the americans -- if the citizens were going to get up on a roof and pour concrete -- >> i late to tell you this, francis coy, francisco, i did that work. i painted houses, laid tile. framed houses. i did roofing. i did it all, too, for decades. >> i got solution for you. get a private cause of action right for the employee that's
denied a job for an undocumented alien to sue the employer for damages. >> michelle, congratulations on your book. >> coming up, the racial tension at the university of missouri is not coming down tonight. now it is spreading to other college campuses all across the country. that's next. later tonight, fox news has learned the fbi is expanding their probe of hillary clinton's private server scandal. former new york city mayor and prosecutor rudy giuliani will be here. plus 2016 republican presidential candidate carly fiorina all coming up on this busy news edition. you do all this research on a perfect car, then smash it into a tree. your insurance company raises your rates. maybe you should've done more research on them. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. liberty mutual insurance.
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foxnews.com. welcome back. racial tensions on the university of missouri campus continue to spiral out of control. prests this week forced resignations of key school official including the university's president and chancellor. assistant professor melissa click who was caught on video during one of the demonstrations requesting "some muscle" to help remove a student who was recording the protest. the racial tension is now spreading to other college campuses. here with reaction tonight, author of the book "race pimping," the multi-trillion dollar business of liberalism," kevin jackson, david clark, and eric guster. eric, you're there, you see this. we are getting mixed reports. apparently some student on campus threatened black students. that person is being dealt with. that's in the aftermath of all of this. then there are questions about whether some of the reported incidents are true.
bring us up to date with what's really happening. >> well first of all, it wasn't a student that threatened the other students. it was a 19-year-old kid who lived in a town about 90 miles away and using yick yak or some other social media they were able to find out about him. one of the other things that was debunked was the swastika with feces was an old picture circulating the internet for over a year. nothing's really changed. a lot of people at university of missouri school system are embarrassed by this, including black students. they find it probably as nonsensical as most of america. >> this is not protests. this is a rebellion. it is obvious that not much learning goes on at these colleges and universities across the united states. these are tax supported schools. that president and these professors that resigned, they
don't work for the students, they work for taxpayers of missouri and the taxpayers ought to stand up and demand their money not being spent to fund these laboratories of lab ral indoctrination. no wonder we end up near bottom in. international scholastic competitions. learning activity is secondary now on these college campuses. the only discrimination that people should be raling against on these colleges and universities are these programs that discriminate against white and asian students in favor of less qualified black students for entry into the university. that's something that has served its usefulness and that sort of discrimination is what should end. >> there is another incident, the conservative william f. buckley program will a free speech panel featuring the individual rights of education, et cetera. during the panel the protests began stand with your sisters of color here and now and always. secure guard asked these people
to leave, it was refused. it was caught on camera and according to some reports, several attendees were spat on as they left and one buckley fellow said that they were spat on and called racist. isn't that racism on the other side? >> well, let's talk about missouri. >> how about we answer my question? what i want to ask you about missouri -- answer my question first. in other words, incidents happen -- >> you let sheriff clark rale on about some nonsense. i would love to answer -- >> i would love you to answer my question. in other words, you have ignorant people but they're the minority. the minority of people in this country are ignorant. the majority are peace loving people that judge people by their character. >> that's a very interesting point. there is a minority of ignorant people and those ignorant people may the missouri students feel threatened. when you're called the "n" word on campus, when you are being attacked, when you are being -- have a racial slur thrown at
you -- >> does that work in reverse? >> i don't agree with spitting on someone. >> you don't agree with spitting on someone. that's really nice of you. >> that's inappropriate. but back to missouri, these students -- >> you want to go back to missouri. >> absolutely. >> kevin, my point -- >> you let super conservative people run on, sean, and you always try to put me in a box on what i want to debunk just like what sheriff clark -- >> you really spoke out in a powerful way there. but kevin, my point is this. this is not the majority of people. are we building a grievance mentality among kids? i lived in atlanta. i knew jose williams. i met andy young and interviewed him and jose williams. these guys put their lives on the line for real civil rights here. is this is the equivalent of what they did? >> no. look, you're exactly right. if these were the people leading the civil rights back flt '60s
we'd probably still be on plantations. these are the weakest group of individuals i've ever seen and they're an embarrass many to blacks. and what eric is trying to claim is that this incident even happened. i would be willing to bet you that the incident probably didn't even happen. the kid who's claiming that he's -- the kid who's claiming white privilege -- the kid who's claiming white privilege and went to the hunger strike is father is a wealthy black man, works for the railroad. america is getting tired of this type of nonsense. there is colleges called historically black colleges and universities that if black kids want to go and get the full black experience, go there. but when you go to an institution that's 77% white and you know it, you're getting what you're getting. and there is no discrimination. they've got diversity program after diversity program. >> you're saying it's okay for black students to be ridiculed, called names -- >> nobody said that. >> that is the most ridiculous thing ever. >> that's absolutely insane.
that's absolutely insane that anybody was ridiculed. >> one at a time. sheriff clark. >> let me answer, sean! you never give me a chance to reply! >> you were just complaining. you had the floor. >> these students are the product of the professors and university. they fill their heads with this nonsense, like i said. this cultural isolation is retro gresive. this doesn't help anybody. we've gone from this multi-cultural idea which i think is problematic any way and all of a sudden we want to isolate people again, create spaces for black people to go and heal. this stuff is nonsense. let's get back to the topic of academic rigor, study, intellectual conversations going on and forget all these rebellions and these interrek insurrections. >> forget students standing up for their rights. >> they don't even know what their rights are. >> what? >>.
coming up, 2016 gop presidential candidate carly fiorina is here to weigh in. later tonight, the fbi's expanded its investigation into hillary clinton's e-mails. could she end up behind bars? katherine harris has a full report. also legal reaction from former u.s. attorney and new york city mayor rudy giuliani.
welcome back. immigration and race relations in america are two topics that have been coming up a lot on the campaign trail. joining us to explain where thee stands on these two important issues, 2016 republican presidential candidate carly fiorina. hi, how are you? >> i'm great, sean. how are you doing? >> i'm good. i was a little disturbed to watch this person in front of
hillary clinton say that they want to strangle you and she didn't correct them. watch this. >> every time i see her on tv i want to reach through and strangle her. you know, i know that doesn't sound very nice. >> i wouldn't mess with you. >> beyond the laugh which is annoying, do you think she should have an obligation to correct them? this keeps coming up. do candidates have an obligation to correct what people are asking at town halls? >> well, there are times when certainly you should. look, i don't hold this gentleman in any disregard. i understand he is frustrated with me and he doesn't agree with my politics. i don't even hold hillary clinton accountable for not saying something. but it is just an example of the unbelievable double standard. unbelievable double standard that conservatives are held to versus the one that mrs. clinton is held to. i'm less worried about that than i am about the fact that the
media actually won't ever ask her why she lied about the terrorist attack in benghazi. the point is the media pro tebts mrs. clinton. just as the media protects president obama. those of us who are running for office have an obligation to stand up and point this double standard out every time it happens. the good news is i think the american people are getting wise to this and so i'll just point it out every time. that's why i went on "the view" last week to point out to the ladies of "the view" but more importantly to the audience of "the view" that conservatives are held to a different standard and that does in the advance our dialogue. >> i thought it was a great appearance by you. you're not alone. obama once told a member of an audience he was going to send this guy mr. bird just to tear me up. words don't offend me anymore.
america's role in the world, the economy and immigration appeared the other night. i know i've asked you about immigration but explain particularly the order in which you would go about things. >> first, we must secure the border. as you said earlier in this show, a nation that cannot secure its own border cannot protect its sovereignty. it is not just that we have i illegal immigrants coming across the border. we have drugs, potential terrorists. we lost our younger daughter to the demons of addiction. so it matters that we have drug lords camping out permanently on american soil selling drugs in this nation. secondly we have to fix the legal immigration system which has been broken for 25 years and here's the thing, sean. politicians talk about this all the time. we've talked about it every election cycle but somehow we
just never fix it. we hand out mexican border crossing cards and we never check to see if people go home at the end of the day and we give people a legal visa and never check to see if they go home. we don't have an employer verification system that works. this takes leadership and political will power to get it done. ? isn't it a mistake for republicans to talk about a million people because if you don't control the border that becomes 12 million, 13 million, 14 million people. the dea's national drug threat assessment reveals mexican cartels are in a class by their own making them the largest criminal threat to the u.s. i've been in the drug warehouses down in southern california. i've seen from floor to ceiling all drugs that have been confiscated. my question to you is is it a mistake for me to ask you what do you do with the 11 million
people here when the border is still not secure? >> i don't think it is a mistake but i think the point is that we have to start with the basics. we have to start by securing the border. for all the reasons you just said. we have to start by securing the border and we have toll realistic and understand that we have talked about this every election for 25 years. frankly, sean, talk is cheap. now what we need is a leader who will actually go get it done, a leader who has a track record, not of talk but of producing results. we have to secure the border. it actually isn't rocket science to do it but it does take money an manpower and technology. by the way, if we don't -- >> it can be done. >> of course it can. by the way, if we don't secure our border with be guess what else we also do? we cough rode people's faith in their own government and for a di citizen government that's a very dangerous thing. >> let me ask you about university of missouri.
race relations in the country. your thoughts on it all. >> first, any time there is racial insult we ought to step up and talk out about that. but on the other hand, we are not preparing our children for a life in the real world when we so coddle them, when we tell them that anything that might offend their ses abilities is an affront when we tell them that they're victims all day long. for heaven sakes, when the students at yale university are told what halloween costumes to wear that's not the same thing as the real civil rights movement where people were fighting for the right to vote, the right to show up at a lunch counter, the right to be free from fear of being lynched. we need to give people a sense of perspective and the only way our young people gain a sense of perspective is to understand our history. we are not helping young people when we protect them from their feelings and protect them from history. >> well said. carly fiorina, thanks so much for being with us.
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welcome back to "hannity." fox news has learned that the fbi is now expanding its probe of hillary clinton's private server scandal and is now exploring weather multiple statements clinton has made is a violation of a federal statute. standing by in washington with the very latest, catherine herridge. >> reporter: intelligence sources is tell fox news the fbi has expanded its probe of
hillary clinton's e-mails with agents exploring whether there are violations of 18 usc 10001. the same statute in 2004 got martha stewart in trouble with insider trading. >> martha stewart was having a conversation with an fbi agent and her lawyer in the fbi agent's office. she was not sworn to tell the truth. she was asked about certain activities and she lied about them. as a result of those lies, she was prosecuted and convicted under this very statute. >> 18 usc code 1001 pertains to materially false statements given to a third party orally or in writing. legal experts say section 1001 could apply if clinton, her aides or attorney were not forthcoming with fbi agents about her personal server as well as the destruction of
government records. separately two u.s. government officials said the fbi's doing its own independent classification review of the clinton e-mails going directly together agencies involved effectively cutting out what has become a grinding process at the state department. a former fbi intelligence officer says it is about the ente integrity of the evidence. >> i would expect that in order to have a substantive pure investigation you want to go to the originating source of that information. >> fbi director james comey avoids commenting on any ongoing investigation but recently confirmed he is getting regular updates emphasizing the bureau's agents are not influenced by politics. there was no response today from the clinton campaign and it is also important to emphasize at this point it is unclear from our reporting who's false statements may have been involved. >> thankou. here with reaction, former new york city mayor and former u.s. attorney, rudy giuliani.
a lot of people forget that you went after the mob, put your own life at risk. i remember those days. you have identified what i call the rudy 15 or 16 now. we'll put it on the screen so our audience can see. you think it goes way beyond what the fbi is doing here. when you hear they're expanding their investigation, beyond preliminary fact finding, that's not good for her. >> particularly the mention of 18 usc 1001. that's a big, big general statute. that's the statute martha stewart was indicted under. it makes it a crime to give a false statement not just under oath for example to an fbi agent or an assistant u.s. attorney. >> denny hastert recently did that. >> i probably indicted a thousand people under that statute. that's a very, very general statute. any false statement, any misleading statement. but there are a couple that are really very, very tight in terms of fitting the facts of her
case. there's 18 usc 1924. unauthorized removal and retention of classified information. you're not supposed to take it home with you, much less give it to someone who's going to put it in a garage. that's a crime if it's classified. gets even worse. 18 usc section 2007 makes it a trial to in any way conceal a government recordand if she was approval for this, then she will have violated a very specific statute. >> i don't know what the fbi has or doesn't have. but if they were able to retrieve the 32,000 e-mails that they deleted -- >> if any of those are government records -- not just classified records but government records, she would have violated 18 usc section 207 which is concealment, removal or mutilation of government records. >> wouldn't obstruction come into play? >> well, then you have the benghazi investigation going on at that very time.
even if it wasn't going on. if you anticipated it, but it was going on. then if you destroy records with the intent trying to obstruct an investigation, and if any of those records had anything this to do with benghazi, then would you have obstruction of justice as well as 10001. >> you might have quid pro quo if there are clinton foundation -- >> the speaking fee to bill clinton whether she intervened on ubs' behalf. that's another specific statute that makes it a crime to interfere in an internal revenue service investigation. her call to the irs was described as "unusual." then clinton got 1.2 million. >> let's assume that the fbi completes its investigation and they discover that there is enough evidence to indict and they bring this information to the attorney general and the obama administration, loretta lynch.
let's say that we can point and cite example after example of people who were prosecuted, who did go to jail -- >> there are people that did. general petraeus. >> general petraeus. let's say they decide not to prosecute her. because of her name or stature. she's running for president. what does that do to our criminal justice system? >> it hurts our criminal justice system. probably means should a republican get elected you'll have that department put under investigation. pits's that profound. >> another clinton constitutional crisis. >> no one is above the law. >> supposed to be. right. >> these are serious things. if she didn't do it, then the fbi report would clearly indicate she -- if she did, i, frankly, i know loretta lynch. i believe if the fbi recommends prosecution i believe loretta -- >> you believe that. >> i believe u.s. attorney dinch
attorney general lynch will indiet. you do? >> yeah. she's a very, very straight woman. remember i supported her. >> i know you did. >> and i did because i saw her goat both wa go both ways on cases. i saw her be fair in cases where you should prosecute and i saw her even in a case where she was against us, she gave us the opportunity to speak to the attorney general about it and the attorney general came out our way when janet reno was attorney general. not many u.s. attorneys do that. this is a very fair woman. so i have a lot of confidence in her. >> very interesting, mr. mayor. thank you. coming up, you've been sending in your questions all day on facebook and twitter. yes, it is back. a special 2016 election elegs of "ask sean" straight ahead. ♪ [special effects] lisa! what took you so long? duracell quantum lasts longer in 99% of devices, [laser blasts] so you can power imagination all day long. [duracell slamtones]
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i'm whaback now. >> there's always sneak questions. >> no, this is all serious. we had a big debate this week, fox business network. let's get into this. this is twitter/facebook. >> i want your questions, too. >> hold your horses. let's get to the viewers first. david davis on twitter asks what do you think this election cycle would be like without donald trump ever mentioning his candidacy? >> dull. boring. the same. he has added life and energy and infusion of energy that i think has benefited every other candidate in this race. especially republicans. >> what about on politics? this is my question though. on policy. his immigration stance is very clear and very tough and hard-nosed. everybody's kind of revolving around his -- >> i think a lot of people that didn't respect american law and sovereignty should go back but
the first thing we've got to do, if you have a boat and it is taking on water, what is the first thing you do? plug up the hole. let's secure the fence, build the border and let's stop the people coming in targeting weal neighborhoods in america with heroin, cocaine. people are dying and it's happening. >> who do you like? >> the reason i don't select until later in the process, there is a reason. i've been in the media, since 1987. started in radio. >> i didn't know that. i never heard that before. >> thanks a lot. the reason is that people are going to believe and some will fall and dust themselves up. i have narrowed in my head, today, there are three people i like. >> are you going to tell us who
they are? >> no. why not? >> i'm a conservative, you can figure it out, probably. >> let me ask you about one of them. michael campbell asks should marco rubio be categorized as a conservative candidate or more of an establishment candidate? >> it's interesting. he was elected as a tea party candidate in 2010, and if you watch him in the debates, he's bright, smart, articulate. a fresh face for conservatism. because i have many conservative friends, some cannot get over the issue of immigration with him, having asked him, i would probably say 40-50 times about this issue. he says he was wrong, he was sorry. he said he made a mistake and said it would not be his bill. >> down the center conservative? >> i think making a big mistake on immigration issue. >> this is, i want to get video
sent in. let me ask you this quickly. what issue matters most to you? this is from matt. >> i can't name just one. >> i am adding the "s". >> no. no. pick one. >> the economy, 50 million americans in poverty. 94.5% out of the labor force, 46 million on food stamps. our national debt. we better start taking isis seriously. they're here, this war is being engaged and third, immigration. those three big issues. >> let's get to this video from twitter. >> oh, boy. >> hey, sean, we're students in a federal government class in seminole state college. we have a question for you. can someone's education have an
impablth on minimum wage? . >> i don't believe in minimum wage. one of the thing that's kept me in trouble, i was in trouble, sort of incorrigible. i worked all the time and that kept me away from dopey friends. >> so i don't believe in minimum wage. i thi i think the experience people gets when working a job will be able to be transferred to other aspects of your life. it's so important to get along with people. i'm against the minimum wage. >> so you'd repeal it? >> we have to aspire to developing marketable skills, and education, and producing
things that people want, need, and desire. goods and services. >> you sound like you're running. >> i'm not running. >> don't invite me back in 2018 in the mid term. >> good so see you. >> i love you. >> my daughter looks at me like that. >> okay. coming up, the question of the day, next. we live in a pick and choose world.
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